Dr Skinner and the GMC

[Guest guest]

That's really fantastic news! !! Jackie xSent from my small keyboard iPod, hence brevity. On 29 Jul 2011, at 22:54, "inawhitlam" <iwhitlam@...> wrote:

Hello Everybody

I thought you would like to know exactly what has happened. Today, the GMC has adjourned the Hearing for a further 3 months. This is because, basically, they have made a complete mess of everything - boy, are they in trouble -

[Guest guest]

Which cabal of interested parties has ganged up to use the GMC, a charitable

organisation, to further their own ends ??

So now we know, it has been a professional 'dust up' ~ get off our patch !

Bob

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> Hello Everybody

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> This is Sheila, siging in from Ina's account as I am staying with her in

> Manchester - and having a few days off.

[Guest guest]

Abuse of a charitable organisation to disadvantage another professional may be a

'corrupt practice' akin to 'operating' in a 'closed shop' .......

Now, I believe that comes under denial of the opportunity to work, a basic human

right !

Bob

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> Hello Everybody

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> This is Sheila, siging in from Ina's account as I am staying with her in

> Manchester - and having a few days off.

[Guest guest]

Professor Bouloux is the same doctor the GMC used as an expert witness in the Dr

Myhill case.

It's strange that the same doctor can be an 'expert' witness for CFS/ME and

thyroid disease when neither of those medical areas are his specialties!

I wonder who they'll get next.

[Guest guest]

Sounds like ought to be getting her costs paid for them using a

'defective' expert witness ~ the defect being (im)partiality, and going back

some years, on the current evidence.

With whom was he 'in concert'?

Bob

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> Professor Bouloux is the same doctor the GMC used as an expert witness in the

Dr Myhill case.

[Guest guest]

Hi Sheila

The GMC is subject to the Freedom of Information Act. I wonder what we could

extract from them if we asked? For instance, it would be extremely interesting

if we could get information relating to the selection of Prof Bo@@ocks as their

expert witness, eg. emails, minutes of meetings and reports.

TonyC

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> Hello Everybody

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> GMC has adjourned the Hearing for a further 3 months.

[Guest guest]

Hi Tony, this is Sheila again using Ina's Email account. What I forgot to tell

everybody about the whole GMC appalling mess is that Dr Skinner had restrictions

on his practice for over three years, which he had to follow. One of the

restrictions was that GP's had to refer their patients to him which he then had

to list, signing the referral letter and copy all of thse to send to the GMC on

a six monthly basis. This is so the GMC could keep a close eye on his

practice(s). However, too late, it was discovered that not one single person in

the whole of the GMC had checked any single document over the past 3 1/2 years.

The GMC were supposed to do this on a regular basis to ensure that no patients

were being put at risk.

Dr S could have been up to all sorts and probably causing great harm to

patients, but did the GMC care - not one jot. All the past 3 1/2 years have been

a complete waste of time....and now, they want to take on more 'experts' to

check through all of these so decided to adjourn the hearing so more time could

be given to this, meanwhile, extending Dr Skinner's restrictions still further,

with patients still having to continue to get a referral and him having to

continue sending yet further information on a monthly basis to the GMC - for it

to be placed in a cupboard with nobody checking the contents. All that is

happening right now is the fault of the GMC, which Dr Sk's barrister made VERY

clear.

It is the GMC that need investigating along with Professor Bo@@ocks, and no

doubt, when this is all over, Panorama or another such programme will take this

up - what a story this will make.

Most definitely, we need all the information we can get under the FOIA regarding

exchanges of any correspondence and this we will do.

Luv - Sheila

In thyroid treatment , " tandcpace " <tandcpace@...> wrote:>

> The GMC is subject to the Freedom of Information Act. I wonder what we could

extract from them if we asked? For instance, it would be extremely interesting

if we could get information relating to the selection of Prof Bo@@ocks as their

expert witness, eg. emails, minutes of meetings and reports.

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[Guest guest]

Hi Sheila,

Any chance that a Judge could put a stop to it, under common law?

Bob

making a farce of the both the law and public protection?

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> Hi Tony, this is Sheila again using Ina's Email account. What I forgot to tell

everybody about the whole GMC appalling mess is that Dr Skinner had restrictions

on his practice for over three years, which he had to follow.

[Guest guest]

I think his name gives you a hint?

Professor Bouloux is the same doctor the GMC used as an expert witness in the Dr Myhill case. It's strange that the same doctor can be an 'expert' witness for CFS/ME and thyroid disease when neither of those medical areas are his specialties!I wonder who they'll get next.

[Guest guest]

Lol - you  have a wicked sense of humour.Lilian

I think his name gives you a hint?

 

Professor Bouloux is the same doctor the GMC used as an expert witness in the Dr Myhill case. I

[Guest guest]

Yeah but they will probably call Dr Toft and we all know his views

Pat

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[Guest guest]

Dear all,

As you are all aware, Dr Skinner's review hearing took place on Thursday the 28th and Friday the 29th of July. Mainly, the GMC requested an adjournment of the hearing, which was granted for 3 months, during which time the conditions on Dr Skinner's registration remain. The 3 months will commence after the conditions expire in August 2011, so the next hearing must take place before the end of November 2011. More details regarding the reasons for this adjournment (other than those I gave you previously) should be recorded in the transcript for the two days of the hearing.

Therefore as a matter of interest [and hopefully for accuracy] it will be useful for everyone to obtain a copy of this transcript from the GMC, either via a written request, via e-mail or by phoning the GMC. I requested a copy after the hearing and was told this could take up to 3 to 4 weeks. We would be interested in hearing your viewpoints too, if you would be kind enough to send them to either Cameron [iana.cameron@...] or myself.

Those of you who have contacted the GMC via e-mail will have a contact return e-mail address that you can use to apply for the transcript. The number to ring is 0161 923 6472. The person to write to is: Cook, Investigation Officer, Fitness to Practise Directorate, General Medical Council, 3 Hardman Street, Manchester, M3 3AW.

In the meantime, many, many thanks to everyone who has so far offered to appear as a witness in defence of Dr Skinner and also to everyone who attended the hearing. Many thanks too, to those of you who have sent the GMC testimonials in support of Dr Skinner, these are greatly appreciated.

With regard to testimonials in support of Dr Skinner, these are still urgently needed, be it from yourself, family and/or friends. As stated previously, the person at the GMC to send the testimonials to is: Cook, Investigation Officer, Fitness to Practise Directorate, General Medical Council, 3 Hardman Street, Manchester, M3 3AW. When sending testimonials would you also be so kind as to copy them to Dr Afshan Ahmad at 22 Alcester Road, Moseley, Birmingham B13 8BE and to Mr Ralph Shipway of RadcliffesleBrasseur [solicitors], 5 Great College Street, Westminster, London, SW1P 3SJ,

I cannot emphasise enough how important it is that if at all possible, you and your family/friends attend the hearing in November (Manchester GMC). We need as many of you to attend as possible to show the GMC the tremendous support there is for Dr Skinner, so please keep November free if at all possible. We will do our best to keep you all up to date re the situation regarding this hearing but please do forward this e-mail to any other supporters of Dr Skinner or to the owners of any thyroid web sites or Internet or local thyroid support forums that you know.

Sheila and

www.tpa-uk.org.uk

[Guest guest]

HI SHEILA

Although I could not commit myself to attend DR SKINNERS appearance at the GMC with the problems that have come up within our family, providing I am fit in November I would like to attempt coming to the GMC in Manchester, but the earlier one can book train travel the cheaper the train ticket, so bear this in mind for those that will be travelling by train.

I will also be applying for a copy of the transcript.

Although I have not been a patient of DR SKINNERS,in turn I have not heard of him causing any of his patients any harm, but from what you have said about the fact that the GMC are supposed to have kept an eye on DR SKINNERS patients, and kept records, which they had not done, and surely had any harm come to them the GMC themselves would have been to blame.

I also feel that the TPA have help many patients, and even knowing that others have suffered from remarks made by NHS DOCTORS such as being deluded and hypochondriacs, and in turn damaged by the drugs that they have been prescibed, has helped us to know that this is not so, and in fact saved lives.

DR SKINNER has not harmed patients in this way, but many NHS DOCTORS are getting away with the harm that they have done.

What does anyone fear most "their mental status", and to be told that they are deluded, hypochondriacs and mental can cause more harm and cause them to take an overdose.

Can I put something along these lines in support of DR SKINNER.

How many also can they accommodate under cover at the GMC, as to stand outside in the cold in November would not be very good for us.

Best wishes

From Kathleen and keep fighting

From: SheilaT <sheila@...>thyroid treatment Sent: Wednesday, 3 August 2011, 10:08Subject: Dr Skinner and the GMC

Dear all,

As you are all aware, Dr Skinner's review hearing took place on Thursday the 28th and Friday the 29th of July. Mainly, the GMC requested an adjournment of the hearing, which was granted for 3 months, [Ed]

[ED]

[Guest guest]

Hi all, i have written in respect of Dr skinner`s hearing- I am writing this letter in respect of the high regard and esteem that his patients hold for him and my gratitude for the excellent care i personally received from him in my hour of need.he gave me the time to talk and gave me the treatment i so desperately needed. I have no hesitation in recommending him to anyone who has symptoms of a metabolic or thyroid nature, as no stone will be left unturned in his quest for answers to your symptoms, causes and for an appropriate treatment. i hope this is OK- angel.

[Guest guest]

Great Angel, thank you so much.

Luv - Sheila

Hi all, i

have written in respect of Dr skinner`s hearing-

I am writing

this letter in respect of the high regard and esteem that his patients hold for

him and my gratitude for the excellent care i personally received from

him in my hour of need.

he gave

me the time to talk and gave me the treatment i so desperately needed. I have

no hesitation in recommending him to anyone who has symptoms of a metabolic or

thyroid nature, as no stone will be left unturned in his quest for

answers to your symptoms, causes and for an appropriate treatment.

i hope

this is OK- angel.

[Guest guest]

Can you possibly give me an example testimonial that I can tailor

to my own case, please?

I can be available AFTER 30th November to attend...

if the case drags on.

Issy

From: thyroid treatment

[mailto:thyroid treatment ] On Behalf Of SheilaT

Sent: 03 August 2011 10:08

thyroid treatment

Subject: Dr Skinner and the GMC

Dear all,

As you are all aware, Dr Skinner's review hearing

took place on Thursday the 28

[Guest guest]

Hi all a while ago I spoke to Dr Skinner and asked him to be a second opinion .

Since my GP refuses a referral letter to Dr Skinner I have been waiting to

have this cleared up and to see him as a matter of 'informed patient choice'

without this letter . I am writing to the GMC to say I am not at all happy about

the situation {ANOTHER 3 months !!!!!!] Perhaps there are other people out

there also unhappy about this???

[Guest guest]

If you have been a patient of his, then set out exactly what you

were suffering before you went to see him, i.e. symptoms, being ignored, signs

being ignored, doctors refusing diagnosis because TFT's were within the so

called 'normal' reference range and declaring you therefore couldn't possibly

have a problem with your thyroid. How badly you felt, whether this affected

your wife, relationships with people, what effect it had on your life in

general and how, once you had a consultation with Dr Skinner, you gradually got

back your normal health, or at least, started to get back on the road to recovery.

Just tell your story as it is.

If, however, you are not a patient of his, but you have

recognised how many sufferers of this disease who are members of this forum

have told their stories of recovery after having consultations with him, then

write about your own experience within the NHS diagnosing and treatment

protocol and how you remained ill and how you wish that every doctor had the

same knowledge about thyroid disease plus total dedication to making patients

well again in the same way as Dr Skinner. We really do need all NHS doctors to

take a leaf out of his book.

Luv - Sheila

Can you possibly give me an example

testimonial that I can tailor to my own case, please?

I can be available AFTER 30th

November to attend... if the case drags on.

Issy

From: thyroid treatment

[mailto:thyroid treatment ] On Behalf Of SheilaT

Sent: 03 August 2011 10:08

thyroid treatment

Subject: Dr Skinner and the GMC

Dear all,

As you are all aware, Dr Skinner's review hearing

took place on Thursday the 28

[Guest guest]

We brought this up with the GMC when we were there , but the

Chairman said very strongly that they had made a decision to adjourn the

hearing for 3 months and that restrictions would still apply. Sadly, your

letter will make no difference . None of us are happy, least of all Dr

Skinner. This is so unfair, and I sincerely hope this all gets properly sorted

at that time. PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE EVERYBODY - KEEP

NOVEMBER FREE AND ATTEND THIS NEXT VERY IMPORTANT HEARING IN MANCHESTER. We

need the Panel to know how many people are backing Dr Skinner. Next time, we

also need a big Media Coverage - because my goodness, after what has happened

this last time, it certainly needs it.

Luv - Sheila

Hi all a while ago I spoke to Dr Skinner and

asked him to be a second opinion . Since my GP refuses a referral letter to Dr

Skinner I have been waiting to have this cleared up and to see him as a matter

of 'informed patient choice' without this letter . I am writing to the GMC to

say I am not at all happy about the situation {ANOTHER 3 months !!!!!!] Perhaps

there are other people out there also unhappy about this???

[Guest guest]

HI SHEILA

I think that DR SKINNER AND DR PEATFIELD could do our Doctors a favour by

training them how to treat Thyroid patients, but I spent last night adding quite

a bit more to my letter on how I have been treated making points along the way

that Dr Skinner would not treat patients in this way.

I hope that I have not gone too far, and do you think you should check it

through for me.

Kathleen

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> If, however, you are not a patient of his, but you have recognised how many

> sufferers of this disease who are members of this forum have told their

> stories of recovery after

[Ed]

[Guest guest]

>>>If, however, you are not a patient of his, <<<

As I was not a patient of his I didn't take any notice of who to write to. But if, as you say, I can still do my bit, could you please give me all the information again as to who to write to. Presumably a letter is required not email.

Lilian

[Guest guest]

Please send letters

of support for Dr Skinner to Cook,

Investigation

Officer,

Fitness to Practise

Directorate,

General Medical

Council,

3 Hardman Street,

Manchester,

M3 3AW

And copy to :

Afshan

Ahmad PhD,

Director of Research and Development,

Vaccine Research International Plc,

22 Alcester Road,

Moseley,

Birmingham,

B13 8BE,

UK

And to Mr Ralph

Shipway,

5 Great College

Street,

Westminster,

London,

SW1P 3SJ

>>>If, however, you are not a

patient of his, <<<

As I was not a patient

of his I didn't take any notice of who to write to. But if,

as you say, I can still do my bit, could you please give me all the information

again as to who to write to. Presumably a letter is required

not email.

Lilian

[Guest guest]

I will be happy to check through your letter Kathleen, send it

to my privately at [sheila@...].

We have just under 2500 members of TPA, can you imagine the

shock that the GMC would have if every member wrote in support of Dr Skinner?

Luv - Sheila

HI SHEILA

I think that DR SKINNER AND DR PEATFIELD could do our Doctors a favour by

training them how to treat Thyroid patients, but I spent last night adding

quite a bit more to my letter on how I have been treated making points along

the way that Dr Skinner would not treat patients in this way.

I hope that I have not gone too far, and do you think you should check it

through for me.

Kathleen

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> If, however, you are not a patient of his, but you have recognised how

many

> sufferers of this disease who are members of this forum have told their

> stories of recovery after

[Ed]

[Guest guest]

I would be happy to send a letter of support but having never been a patient of Dr. P. I should be grateful if someone could post a 'template' letter or something that I could basically copy.

Thanks

Sue

[Guest guest]

I have already done this at message 87137 - but will reprint it

here again: Best to use your own words Sue

Luv - Sheila

If you have been a patient of Dr

Skinner's, then set out exactly what you were suffering before you went to see

him, i.e. symptoms, being ignored, signs being ignored, doctors refusing

diagnosis because TFT's were within the so called 'normal' reference range and

declaring you therefore couldn't possibly have a problem with your thyroid. How

badly you felt, whether this affected your wife, relationships with people,

what effect it had on your life in general and how, once you had a consultation

with Dr Skinner, you gradually got back your normal health, or at least,

started to get back on the road to recovery. Just tell your story as it is.

If, however, you are not a patient of his,

but you have recognised how many sufferers of this disease who are members of

this forum have told their stories of recovery after having consultations with

him, then write about your own experience within the NHS diagnosing and

treatment protocol and how you remained ill and how you wish that every doctor

had the same knowledge about thyroid disease plus total dedication to making

patients well again in the same way as Dr Skinner. We really do need all NHS

doctors to take a leaf out of his book.

Luv - Sheila

From: thyroid treatment

[mailto:thyroid treatment ] On Behalf Of montgomery106261@...

Sent: 06 August 2011 17:49

thyroid treatment

Subject: Re: Dr Skinner and the GMC

I would be happy to send a letter of support but having never been

a patient of Dr. P. I should be grateful if someone could post a 'template'

letter or something that I could basically copy.

Thanks

Sue