Guest guest Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 Yes, it's much cheaper to mix your own. You can buy potassium iodide (SSKI) in crystals at a reputable aquarium shop - the quality is the same. The iodine you'll need is a bit trickier, try the Chemical Store online. We have mixed our own since last Oct, haven't had a problem. It's only about $20 year this way for 2 of us.ArielOn Mon, Jun 20, 2011 at 11:49 PM, Ben Roche <ben_roche1@...> wrote: So I am looking at finding a cheaper route for my iodine supplementation. Allot of people have said full orchestra on ebay and make my own. Right now im on 50 mg iodoral from I herb but its pricy and if I want to up my intake to 200 mg per day I need to find a cheaper route. I noticed you can buy the lugols drops, 7-percent 1-ounce is about 8 dollars. Does anyone know how many drops are needed from a 7% solution to make up 200mg per day? Does anyone know how many drops are in a 1-fl ounce container? I am trying to work out how much I need per month. The other option is to buy the elemental iodine crystals and the potassium iodine crystals and make my own. No clue on how to mix, how much crystals to buy of each product, and how to make it myself. How would I make a 7% solution? If someone could guide me on this I would appreciate it. If it's not much of a saving to make my own I may just buy the premixed from this guy. But depending on your answers I may brave it and try to make my own. Let me know your thoughts on both. Thanks Ben -- " Throughout much of the world, most people are busy being boring. " -Tom Donohue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 As you head into this territory remember that all chemicals ( & substances used in supplements) come in various grades (levels of purity). One would want to make sure they are using at least USP food grade products and not lab grade. http://www.reagents.com/products/reagents/grades.html Low prices, fast shipping and really nice to work with does not equal a guarantee of a USP food grade product, though there are many on this list who use the product. > > So I am looking at finding a cheaper route for my iodine supplementation. Allot of people have said full orchestra on ebay and make my own. Right now im on 50 mg iodoral from I herb but its pricy and if I want to up my intake to 200 mg per day I need to find a cheaper route. > > I noticed you can buy the lugols drops, 7-percent 1-ounce is about 8 dollars. Does anyone know how many drops are needed from a 7% solution to make up 200mg per day? Does anyone know how many drops are in a 1-fl ounce container? I am trying to work out how much I need per month. > > The other option is to buy the elemental iodine crystals and the potassium iodine crystals and make my own. No clue on how to mix, how much crystals to buy of each product, and how to make it myself. How would I make a 7% solution? If someone could guide me on this I would appreciate it. > > If it's not much of a saving to make my own I may just buy the premixed from this guy. But depending on your answers I may brave it and try to make my own. > > Let me know your thoughts on both. > > Thanks > Ben > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2011 Report Share Posted June 21, 2011 SSKI you buy from a reliable aquarium supply store are food-grade and are the same as sold from other reliable places. It has to be in order to be safe for fish.ArielOn Tue, Jun 21, 2011 at 10:54 AM, baxrox <baxrox@...> wrote: As you head into this territory remember that all chemicals ( & substances used in supplements) come in various grades (levels of purity). One would want to make sure they are using at least USP food grade products and not lab grade. http://www.reagents.com/products/reagents/grades.html Low prices, fast shipping and really nice to work with does not equal a guarantee of a USP food grade product, though there are many on this list who use the product. > > So I am looking at finding a cheaper route for my iodine supplementation. Allot of people have said full orchestra on ebay and make my own. Right now im on 50 mg iodoral from I herb but its pricy and if I want to up my intake to 200 mg per day I need to find a cheaper route. > > I noticed you can buy the lugols drops, 7-percent 1-ounce is about 8 dollars. Does anyone know how many drops are needed from a 7% solution to make up 200mg per day? Does anyone know how many drops are in a 1-fl ounce container? I am trying to work out how much I need per month. > > The other option is to buy the elemental iodine crystals and the potassium iodine crystals and make my own. No clue on how to mix, how much crystals to buy of each product, and how to make it myself. How would I make a 7% solution? If someone could guide me on this I would appreciate it. > > If it's not much of a saving to make my own I may just buy the premixed from this guy. But depending on your answers I may brave it and try to make my own. > > Let me know your thoughts on both. > > Thanks > Ben > -- " Throughout much of the world, most people are busy being boring. " -Tom Donohue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2011 Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 Hey, allot of people say this guy is good. http://cgi.ebay.ca/4oz-114g-potassium-iodide-ACS-grade-/280651699034 pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0 & hash=item415825135a#ht_500wt_935 He sells potassium iodide, and pure iodine elemental crystals. Are these the two I need to make lugos? What are the measurements for the mix. I think im confused on SSKI and all the different types of iodine. He also sells the premixed lugols in a dropper, 7% 1 fl ounce bottles. Do you know how many drops of this I would need in a day to make up 100 mg and 200 mg? Utterly confused, Ben > > > ** > > > > > > So I am looking at finding a cheaper route for my iodine supplementation. > > Allot of people have said full orchestra on ebay and make my own. Right now > > im on 50 mg iodoral from I herb but its pricy and if I want to up my intake > > to 200 mg per day I need to find a cheaper route. > > > > I noticed you can buy the lugols drops, 7-percent 1-ounce is about 8 > > dollars. Does anyone know how many drops are needed from a 7% solution to > > make up 200mg per day? Does anyone know how many drops are in a 1-fl ounce > > container? I am trying to work out how much I need per month. > > > > The other option is to buy the elemental iodine crystals and the potassium > > iodine crystals and make my own. No clue on how to mix, how much crystals to > > buy of each product, and how to make it myself. How would I make a 7% > > solution? If someone could guide me on this I would appreciate it. > > > > If it's not much of a saving to make my own I may just buy the premixed > > from this guy. But depending on your answers I may brave it and try to make > > my own. > > > > Let me know your thoughts on both. > > > > Thanks > > Ben > > > > > > > > > > -- > * " Throughout much of the world, most people are busy being boring. " * > -*Tom Donohue* > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2011 Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 Good advice, others are using this guy off Ebay so I assumed it was all food grade. Do you know if this is something I need to be concerned about with his premixed lugols solution? I emailed the guy off ebay 2 days ago with no response. Where do you get your food grade version from? I thought one just had to buy one of the crystal mixes, but now Im finding one has to buy the potassium iodide crystals and the iodine elemental crystals and make a mix (I think I have this right). No clue on how to mix, what amounts of each to combine to make a proper lugols mix, how much water to use (do I even use water and the mixing base). Any info you can give is appreciated. Ben > > > > So I am looking at finding a cheaper route for my iodine supplementation. Allot of people have said full orchestra on ebay and make my own. Right now im on 50 mg iodoral from I herb but its pricy and if I want to up my intake to 200 mg per day I need to find a cheaper route. > > > > I noticed you can buy the lugols drops, 7-percent 1-ounce is about 8 dollars. Does anyone know how many drops are needed from a 7% solution to make up 200mg per day? Does anyone know how many drops are in a 1-fl ounce container? I am trying to work out how much I need per month. > > > > The other option is to buy the elemental iodine crystals and the potassium iodine crystals and make my own. No clue on how to mix, how much crystals to buy of each product, and how to make it myself. How would I make a 7% solution? If someone could guide me on this I would appreciate it. > > > > If it's not much of a saving to make my own I may just buy the premixed from this guy. But depending on your answers I may brave it and try to make my own. > > > > Let me know your thoughts on both. > > > > Thanks > > Ben > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2011 Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 Im confused on SKKI, is that potassium iodine or elemental iodine or both? Do you just add water to it and bam, you have lugols or do you have to add other crystals to it (I am assuming SKKI is in crystal form but I have no idea). If one has to add water to make the mix, how much water how much SKKI? Does anyone have a good online place they can offer for Canadians? > > > > > > So I am looking at finding a cheaper route for my iodine supplementation. > > Allot of people have said full orchestra on ebay and make my own. Right now > > im on 50 mg iodoral from I herb but its pricy and if I want to up my intake > > to 200 mg per day I need to find a cheaper route. > > > > > > I noticed you can buy the lugols drops, 7-percent 1-ounce is about 8 > > dollars. Does anyone know how many drops are needed from a 7% solution to > > make up 200mg per day? Does anyone know how many drops are in a 1-fl ounce > > container? I am trying to work out how much I need per month. > > > > > > The other option is to buy the elemental iodine crystals and the > > potassium iodine crystals and make my own. No clue on how to mix, how much > > crystals to buy of each product, and how to make it myself. How would I make > > a 7% solution? If someone could guide me on this I would appreciate it. > > > > > > If it's not much of a saving to make my own I may just buy the premixed > > from this guy. But depending on your answers I may brave it and try to make > > my own. > > > > > > Let me know your thoughts on both. > > > > > > Thanks > > > Ben > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > * " Throughout much of the world, most people are busy being boring. " * > -*Tom Donohue* > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2011 Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 Ben, my husband always does the mixing so I dont know the recipe. I'll ask him when he's awake. SSKI is potassium iodide. Lugol's is made from SSKI and elemental iodine. SSKI ALWAYS comes in crystal form unless of course you buy SSKI with water added already. ArielOn Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 3:14 PM, Ben Roche <ben_roche1@...> wrote: Im confused on SKKI, is that potassium iodine or elemental iodine or both? Do you just add water to it and bam, you have lugols or do you have to add other crystals to it (I am assuming SKKI is in crystal form but I have no idea). If one has to add water to make the mix, how much water how much SKKI? Does anyone have a good online place they can offer for Canadians? > > > > > > So I am looking at finding a cheaper route for my iodine supplementation. > > Allot of people have said full orchestra on ebay and make my own. Right now > > im on 50 mg iodoral from I herb but its pricy and if I want to up my intake > > to 200 mg per day I need to find a cheaper route. > > > > > > I noticed you can buy the lugols drops, 7-percent 1-ounce is about 8 > > dollars. Does anyone know how many drops are needed from a 7% solution to > > make up 200mg per day? Does anyone know how many drops are in a 1-fl ounce > > container? I am trying to work out how much I need per month. > > > > > > The other option is to buy the elemental iodine crystals and the > > potassium iodine crystals and make my own. No clue on how to mix, how much > > crystals to buy of each product, and how to make it myself. How would I make > > a 7% solution? If someone could guide me on this I would appreciate it. > > > > > > If it's not much of a saving to make my own I may just buy the premixed > > from this guy. But depending on your answers I may brave it and try to make > > my own. > > > > > > Let me know your thoughts on both. > > > > > > Thanks > > > Ben > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > * " Throughout much of the world, most people are busy being boring. " * > -*Tom Donohue* > -- " Throughout much of the world, most people are busy being boring. " -Tom Donohue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2011 Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 Does the iodine always come in crystal also?I found this guy http://cgi.ebay.ca/30g-pure-elemental-iodine-crystals-/320675514515?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0 & hash=item4aa9c00893#ht_549wt_954selling both the SKKI and iodine crystals. Someone mentioned I should becareful and ensure that I am buying food grade crystals. Not sure if this guy is selling food grade or not and it does not clearly say. Thoughts?From: Ariel Monserrat <wolvenwood@...>iodine Sent: Wed, June 22, 2011 12:51:36 PMSubject: Re: Re: Advice please Ben, my husband always does the mixing so I dont know the recipe. I'll ask him when he's awake. SSKI is potassium iodide. Lugol's is made from SSKI and elemental iodine. SSKI ALWAYS comes in crystal form unless of course you buy SSKI with water added already. ArielOn Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 3:14 PM, Ben Roche <ben_roche1@...> wrote: Im confused on SKKI, is that potassium iodine or elemental iodine or both? Do you just add water to it and bam, you have lugols or do you have to add other crystals to it (I am assuming SKKI is in crystal form but I have no idea). If one has to add water to make the mix, how much water how much SKKI? Does anyone have a good online place they can offer for Canadians? > > > > > > So I am looking at finding a cheaper route for my iodine supplementation. > > Allot of people have said full orchestra on ebay and make my own. Right now > > im on 50 mg iodoral from I herb but its pricy and if I want to up my intake > > to 200 mg per day I need to find a cheaper route. > > > > > > I noticed you can buy the lugols drops, 7-percent 1-ounce is about 8 > > dollars. Does anyone know how many drops are needed from a 7% solution to > > make up 200mg per day? Does anyone know how many drops are in a 1-fl ounce > > container? I am trying to work out how much I need per month. > > > > > > The other option is to buy the elemental iodine crystals and the > > potassium iodine crystals and make my own. No clue on how to mix, how much > > crystals to buy of each product, and how to make it myself. How would I make > > a 7% solution? If someone could guide me on this I would appreciate it. > > > > > > If it's not much of a saving to make my own I may just buy the premixed > > from this guy. But depending on your answers I may brave it and try to make > > my own. > > > > > > Let me know your thoughts on both. > > > > > > Thanks > > > Ben > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > *"Throughout much of the world, most people are busy being boring."* > -*Tom Donohue* > -- "Throughout much of the world, most people are busy being boring."-Tom Donohue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2011 Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 Yes, Ben, I've bought from this seller multiple times and his prices are fair and quality high. For 7% Lugol's, it would take about 6 drops to equal 50mg, 12 drops to equal 100mg, 24 drops to equal 200 mg. It's going to be cheaper to make it yourself, but if that is too overwhelming, just buy 1 oz of the 7% and get going, then figure it out how you want to continue. I was a lot more motivated to make my own once I had tried the Lugol's and knew I wanted to continue. You want Lugol's, not SSKI. SSKI is only one type of iodine, potassium iodide. You need both that one and elemental iodine (the brown stuff). So you want Lugol's. If you want more information, I'll answer your questions. I like buying from this ebay seller because I can get everything I need from him in the quantities I need, including dropper bottles etc. I have a recipe for Lugol's, but you have to have a decent digital scale to make the recipe. However, if you asked that seller on ebay, I am positive he would sell you the exact amounts needed to combine and make your own Lugol's, and I'll help you figure out what those would be when the time comes. Just let me know. One last thing-- That seller sells the 4 oz bottle of 2% Lugol's and he also sells the 1 oz bottle of the 7% Lugol's. The two bottles are essentially equal in the number of doses contained within them, and the price on the 7% works out to a bit less overall. The general consensus on the web is that there are about 600 drops in 1 ounce. These are vertical drops where the dropper is held vertically. There will be more or less, but that's a rough figure. best wishes, -- At 02:07 PM 6/22/2011, you wrote: >Hey, allot of people say this guy is good. >http://cgi.ebay.ca/4oz-114g-potassium-iodide-ACS-grade-/280651699034 >pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0 & hash=item415825135a#ht_500wt_935 > >He sells potassium iodide, and pure iodine elemental crystals. Are these >the two I need to make lugos? What are the measurements for the mix. I >think im confused on SSKI and all the different types of iodine. He also >sells the premixed lugols in a dropper, 7% 1 fl ounce bottles. Do you know >how many drops of this I would need in a day to make up 100 mg and 200 mg? > >Utterly confused, >Ben > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > So I am looking at finding a cheaper route for my iodine supplementation. > > > Allot of people have said full orchestra on ebay and make my own. > Right now > > > im on 50 mg iodoral from I herb but its pricy and if I want to up my > intake > > > to 200 mg per day I need to find a cheaper route. > > > > > > I noticed you can buy the lugols drops, 7-percent 1-ounce is about 8 > > > dollars. Does anyone know how many drops are needed from a 7% solution to > > > make up 200mg per day? Does anyone know how many drops are in a 1-fl > ounce > > > container? I am trying to work out how much I need per month. > > > > > > The other option is to buy the elemental iodine crystals and the > potassium > > > iodine crystals and make my own. No clue on how to mix, how much > crystals to > > > buy of each product, and how to make it myself. How would I make a 7% > > > solution? If someone could guide me on this I would appreciate it. > > > > > > If it's not much of a saving to make my own I may just buy the premixed > > > from this guy. But depending on your answers I may brave it and try > to make > > > my own. > > > > > > Let me know your thoughts on both. > > > > > > Thanks > > > Ben > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > * " Throughout much of the world, most people are busy being boring. " * > > -*Tom Donohue* > > > > > > >------------------------------------ > >All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT >group IodineOT/ > > >The NEW MEMBER DOCUMENT (#1 on the list) >iodine/files/01%20NEW%20MEMBERS%20-%20READ\ %20FIRST/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2011 Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 that ebay seller is selling top quality material. That is not a worry. Please see my previous email about my recommendation to you about how to proceed. -- At 02:12 PM 6/22/2011, you wrote: >Good advice, others are using this guy off Ebay so I assumed it was all >food grade. Do you know if this is something I need to be concerned about >with his premixed lugols solution? I emailed the guy off ebay 2 days ago >with no response. Where do you get your food grade version from? I thought >one just had to buy one of the crystal mixes, but now Im finding one has >to buy the potassium iodide crystals and the iodine elemental crystals and >make a mix (I think I have this right). No clue on how to mix, what >amounts of each to combine to make a proper lugols mix, how much water to >use (do I even use water and the mixing base). Any info you can give is >appreciated. > >Ben > > > > > > > > > So I am looking at finding a cheaper route for my iodine > supplementation. Allot of people have said full orchestra on ebay and > make my own. Right now im on 50 mg iodoral from I herb but its pricy and > if I want to up my intake to 200 mg per day I need to find a cheaper route. > > > > > > I noticed you can buy the lugols drops, 7-percent 1-ounce is about 8 > dollars. Does anyone know how many drops are needed from a 7% solution to > make up 200mg per day? Does anyone know how many drops are in a 1-fl > ounce container? I am trying to work out how much I need per month. > > > > > > The other option is to buy the elemental iodine crystals and the > potassium iodine crystals and make my own. No clue on how to mix, how > much crystals to buy of each product, and how to make it myself. How > would I make a 7% solution? If someone could guide me on this I would > appreciate it. > > > > > > If it's not much of a saving to make my own I may just buy the > premixed from this guy. But depending on your answers I may brave it and > try to make my own. > > > > > > Let me know your thoughts on both. > > > > > > Thanks > > > Ben > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------------ > >All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT >group IodineOT/ > > >The NEW MEMBER DOCUMENT (#1 on the list) >iodine/files/01%20NEW%20MEMBERS%20-%20READ\ %20FIRST/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2011 Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 Ariel, your terminology here is incorrect. Potassium iodide crystals are KI. Potassium iodide crystals dissolved in water become: Super Saturated Potassium Iodide or SSKI I have a recipe that I'll send Ben if he wants one. But I think he should start by buying a bottle of premade so that he can get started and be learning more about the whole thing and not keep waiting to get started. -- At 02:51 PM 6/22/2011, you wrote: >Ben, my husband always does the mixing so I dont know the recipe. I'll ask >him when he's awake. SSKI is potassium iodide. Lugol's is made from SSKI >and elemental iodine. SSKI ALWAYS comes in crystal form unless of course >you buy SSKI with water added already. >Ariel > >On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 3:14 PM, Ben Roche ><<mailto:ben_roche1@...>ben_roche1@...> wrote: > > >Im confused on SKKI, is that potassium iodine or elemental iodine or both? >Do you just add water to it and bam, you have lugols or do you have to add >other crystals to it (I am assuming SKKI is in crystal form but I have no >idea). If one has to add water to make the mix, how much water how much >SKKI? Does anyone have a good online place they can offer for Canadians? > > > > > > > > > > > So I am looking at finding a cheaper route for my iodine > supplementation. > > > Allot of people have said full orchestra on ebay and make my own. > Right now > > > im on 50 mg iodoral from I herb but its pricy and if I want to up my > intake > > > to 200 mg per day I need to find a cheaper route. > > > > > > > > I noticed you can buy the lugols drops, 7-percent 1-ounce is about 8 > > > dollars. Does anyone know how many drops are needed from a 7% solution to > > > make up 200mg per day? Does anyone know how many drops are in a 1-fl > ounce > > > container? I am trying to work out how much I need per month. > > > > > > > > The other option is to buy the elemental iodine crystals and the > > > potassium iodine crystals and make my own. No clue on how to mix, how > much > > > crystals to buy of each product, and how to make it myself. How would > I make > > > a 7% solution? If someone could guide me on this I would appreciate it. > > > > > > > > If it's not much of a saving to make my own I may just buy the premixed > > > from this guy. But depending on your answers I may brave it and try > to make > > > my own. > > > > > > > > Let me know your thoughts on both. > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > Ben > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > * " Throughout much of the world, most people are busy being boring. " * > > -*Tom Donohue* > > > > > > >-- > " Throughout much of the world, most people are busy being boring. " >-Tom Donohue > > > > ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ --A.J. Muste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2011 Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 Hi ,Thank you so much for this response. Ive been searching for weeks and you pretty much answered everything I have been searching for. I too was thinking of starting on the lugol's premixed than moving to making it myself. I have iodoral I am working through but it is going to be damn pricey to keep up with. I am only on 50 mg right now but would like to move up. Price was a factor, I am using it to treat cancer.So if my maths correct, if I am up to 200mg, 600 drops will last me 24 days. Perhaps I should get a few bottles to make sure they last me. Then if I like that after a couple months revisit making it myself. I emailed the ebay seller but he hasn't gotten back yet. This may be the fast and easy approach until I get sorted.Thanks again for helping me, its been hard to get clear cut answers to all my questions. I am ordering this afternoon.From: B <vbaker@...>iodine Sent: Wed, June 22, 2011 1:23:23 PMSubject: Re: Re: Advice please Yes, Ben, I've bought from this seller multiple times and his prices are fair and quality high. For 7% Lugol's, it would take about 6 drops to equal 50mg, 12 drops to equal 100mg, 24 drops to equal 200 mg. It's going to be cheaper to make it yourself, but if that is too overwhelming, just buy 1 oz of the 7% and get going, then figure it out how you want to continue. I was a lot more motivated to make my own once I had tried the Lugol's and knew I wanted to continue. You want Lugol's, not SSKI. SSKI is only one type of iodine, potassium iodide. You need both that one and elemental iodine (the brown stuff). So you want Lugol's. If you want more information, I'll answer your questions. I like buying from this ebay seller because I can get everything I need from him in the quantities I need, including dropper bottles etc. I have a recipe for Lugol's, but you have to have a decent digital scale to make the recipe. However, if you asked that seller on ebay, I am positive he would sell you the exact amounts needed to combine and make your own Lugol's, and I'll help you figure out what those would be when the time comes. Just let me know. One last thing-- That seller sells the 4 oz bottle of 2% Lugol's and he also sells the 1 oz bottle of the 7% Lugol's. The two bottles are essentially equal in the number of doses contained within them, and the price on the 7% works out to a bit less overall. The general consensus on the web is that there are about 600 drops in 1 ounce. These are vertical drops where the dropper is held vertically. There will be more or less, but that's a rough figure. best wishes, -- At 02:07 PM 6/22/2011, you wrote: >Hey, allot of people say this guy is good. >http://cgi.ebay.ca/4oz-114g-potassium-iodide-ACS-grade-/280651699034 >pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0 & hash=item415825135a#ht_500wt_935 > >He sells potassium iodide, and pure iodine elemental crystals. Are these >the two I need to make lugos? What are the measurements for the mix. I >think im confused on SSKI and all the different types of iodine. He also >sells the premixed lugols in a dropper, 7% 1 fl ounce bottles. Do you know >how many drops of this I would need in a day to make up 100 mg and 200 mg? > >Utterly confused, >Ben > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > So I am looking at finding a cheaper route for my iodine supplementation. > > > Allot of people have said full orchestra on ebay and make my own. > Right now > > > im on 50 mg iodoral from I herb but its pricy and if I want to up my > intake > > > to 200 mg per day I need to find a cheaper route. > > > > > > I noticed you can buy the lugols drops, 7-percent 1-ounce is about 8 > > > dollars. Does anyone know how many drops are needed from a 7% solution to > > > make up 200mg per day? Does anyone know how many drops are in a 1-fl > ounce > > > container? I am trying to work out how much I need per month. > > > > > > The other option is to buy the elemental iodine crystals and the > potassium > > > iodine crystals and make my own. No clue on how to mix, how much > crystals to > > > buy of each product, and how to make it myself. How would I make a 7% > > > solution? If someone could guide me on this I would appreciate it. > > > > > > If it's not much of a saving to make my own I may just buy the premixed > > > from this guy. But depending on your answers I may brave it and try > to make > > > my own. > > > > > > Let me know your thoughts on both. > > > > > > Thanks > > > Ben > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > *"Throughout much of the world, most people are busy being boring."* > > -*Tom Donohue* > > > > > > >------------------------------------ > >All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT >group IodineOT/ > > >The NEW MEMBER DOCUMENT (#1 on the list) >iodine/files/01%20NEW%20MEMBERS%20-%20READ%20FIRST/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2011 Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 Hi Ben, I'm glad I've been able to help. Like the rest of the moderators, I have a really busy life and sometimes it can take me awhile to get through the listmail. I think it's best to start off with the premixed so you can get started. If you can spend the money to get a few bottles, that would be great, but the thing is I believe he may only be able to send 1 bottle at a time of the 7% due to regulations, which means paying for shipping several times. Check into it though, I could be very wrong on that. The ebay seller can take a few days to answer questions but he is very quick about shipping orders. I'd just go ahead and order and get started, and get the rest of it sorted out later. But do you have all the companion nutrients also? You must be on all the companions, it's even more important with the kind of health issues you are facing. The companions ensure that the body has what it needs to utilize the iodine. If you already have them, start taking them now. Especially the salt, get going on the salt big time. -- At 03:38 PM 6/22/2011, you wrote: >Hi , >Thank you so much for this response. Ive been searching for weeks and you >pretty much answered everything I have been searching for. > >I too was thinking of starting on the lugol's premixed than moving to >making it myself. I have iodoral I am working through but it is going to >be damn pricey to keep up with. I am only on 50 mg right now but would >like to move up. Price was a factor, I am using it to treat cancer. > >So if my maths correct, if I am up to 200mg, 600 drops will last me 24 >days. Perhaps I should get a few bottles to make sure they last me. Then >if I like that after a couple months revisit making it myself. I emailed >the ebay seller but he hasn't gotten back yet. This may be the fast and >easy approach until I get sorted. > >Thanks again for helping me, its been hard to get clear cut answers to all >my questions. I am ordering this afternoon. > > > >From: B <vbaker@...> >iodine >Sent: Wed, June 22, 2011 1:23:23 PM >Subject: Re: Re: Advice please > > > >Yes, Ben, I've bought from this seller multiple times and his prices are >fair and quality high. > >For 7% Lugol's, it would take about 6 drops to equal 50mg, 12 drops to >equal 100mg, 24 drops to equal 200 mg. > >It's going to be cheaper to make it yourself, but if that is too >overwhelming, just buy 1 oz of the 7% and get going, then figure it out >how you want to continue. I was a lot more motivated to make my own once I >had tried the Lugol's and knew I wanted to continue. > >You want Lugol's, not SSKI. SSKI is only one type of iodine, potassium >iodide. You need both that one and elemental iodine (the brown stuff). So >you want Lugol's. > >If you want more information, I'll answer your questions. I like buying >from this ebay seller because I can get everything I need from him in the >quantities I need, including dropper bottles etc. > >I have a recipe for Lugol's, but you have to have a decent digital scale to >make the recipe. However, if you asked that seller on ebay, I am positive >he would sell you the exact amounts needed to combine and make your own >Lugol's, and I'll help you figure out what those would be when the time >comes. Just let me know. > >One last thing-- That seller sells the 4 oz bottle of 2% Lugol's and he >also sells the 1 oz bottle of the 7% Lugol's. The two bottles are >essentially equal in the number of doses contained within them, and the >price on the 7% works out to a bit less overall. > >The general consensus on the web is that there are about 600 drops in 1 >ounce. These are vertical drops where the dropper is held >vertically. There will be more or less, but that's a rough figure. > >best wishes, >-- > >At 02:07 PM 6/22/2011, you wrote: > >Hey, allot of people say this guy is good. > ><http://cgi.ebay.ca/4oz-114g-potassium-iodide-ACS-grade-/280651699034>htt > p://cgi.ebay.ca/4oz-114g-potassium-iodide-ACS-grade-/280651699034 > >pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0 & hash=item415825135a#ht_500wt_935 > > > >He sells potassium iodide, and pure iodine elemental crystals. Are these > >the two I need to make lugos? What are the measurements for the mix. I > >think im confused on SSKI and all the different types of iodine. He also > >sells the premixed lugols in a dropper, 7% 1 fl ounce bottles. Do you know > >how many drops of this I would need in a day to make up 100 mg and 200 mg? > > > >Utterly confused, > >Ben > > > > > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > > > > So I am looking at finding a cheaper route for my iodine > supplementation. > > > > Allot of people have said full orchestra on ebay and make my own. > > Right now > > > > im on 50 mg iodoral from I herb but its pricy and if I want to up my > > intake > > > > to 200 mg per day I need to find a cheaper route. > > > > > > > > I noticed you can buy the lugols drops, 7-percent 1-ounce is about 8 > > > > dollars. Does anyone know how many drops are needed from a 7% > solution to > > > > make up 200mg per day? Does anyone know how many drops are in a 1-fl > > ounce > > > > container? I am trying to work out how much I need per month. > > > > > > > > The other option is to buy the elemental iodine crystals and the > > potassium > > > > iodine crystals and make my own. No clue on how to mix, how much > > crystals to > > > > buy of each product, and how to make it myself. How would I make a 7% > > > > solution? If someone could guide me on this I would appreciate it. > > > > > > > > If it's not much of a saving to make my own I may just buy the premixed > > > > from this guy. But depending on your answers I may brave it and try > > to make > > > > my own. > > > > > > > > Let me know your thoughts on both. > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > Ben > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > * " Throughout much of the world, most people are busy being boring. " * > > > -*Tom Donohue* > > > > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------------ > > > >All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT > >group > <IodineOT/>http://health./g\ roup/IodineOT/ > > > > > >The NEW MEMBER DOCUMENT (#1 on the list) > ><iodine/files/01%20NEW%20MEMBERS%20- > %20READ%20FIRST/>iodine/files/01%20NEW%20ME\ MBERS%20-%20READ%20FIRST/ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2011 Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 Hey, I ordered 3bottles. I am in Canada, So I hope there is no customs issues. I Iodoral no prob from IHERB. It got here with no issues. Hope the liquid has the same luck....I take 1 tbsp of celtic salt every day. Hope thats enough...I also take 200mg of Selenium400mg of Chelate Magnesium (as of late it has caused loose bowel movements)I cant take Vitamin C because Im on something to help with weight loss called Hydrazine Sulphate and it restricts Vitamin C. Thats the only one I dont take out of the protocol, some iodine experts told me that is ok. I may just detox slower. So far ive been on 50mg a day and had no detox symptoms or increased energy. When I get my lugols I will probably up it to 100mg at first then 150, then 200. Do you know how fast it takes to ship to Canada?Last I recently added oleandar to my protocol. Ive read its a good mix to consider when taking Iodine.From: B <vbaker@...>iodine Sent: Wed, June 22, 2011 2:05:00 PMSubject: Re: Re: Advice please Hi Ben, I'm glad I've been able to help. Like the rest of the moderators, I have a really busy life and sometimes it can take me awhile to get through the listmail. I think it's best to start off with the premixed so you can get started. If you can spend the money to get a few bottles, that would be great, but the thing is I believe he may only be able to send 1 bottle at a time of the 7% due to regulations, which means paying for shipping several times. Check into it though, I could be very wrong on that. The ebay seller can take a few days to answer questions but he is very quick about shipping orders. I'd just go ahead and order and get started, and get the rest of it sorted out later. But do you have all the companion nutrients also? You must be on all the companions, it's even more important with the kind of health issues you are facing. The companions ensure that the body has what it needs to utilize the iodine. If you already have them, start taking them now. Especially the salt, get going on the salt big time. -- At 03:38 PM 6/22/2011, you wrote: >Hi , >Thank you so much for this response. Ive been searching for weeks and you >pretty much answered everything I have been searching for. > >I too was thinking of starting on the lugol's premixed than moving to >making it myself. I have iodoral I am working through but it is going to >be damn pricey to keep up with. I am only on 50 mg right now but would >like to move up. Price was a factor, I am using it to treat cancer. > >So if my maths correct, if I am up to 200mg, 600 drops will last me 24 >days. Perhaps I should get a few bottles to make sure they last me. Then >if I like that after a couple months revisit making it myself. I emailed >the ebay seller but he hasn't gotten back yet. This may be the fast and >easy approach until I get sorted. > >Thanks again for helping me, its been hard to get clear cut answers to all >my questions. I am ordering this afternoon. > > > >From: B <vbaker@...> >iodine >Sent: Wed, June 22, 2011 1:23:23 PM >Subject: Re: Re: Advice please > > > >Yes, Ben, I've bought from this seller multiple times and his prices are >fair and quality high. > >For 7% Lugol's, it would take about 6 drops to equal 50mg, 12 drops to >equal 100mg, 24 drops to equal 200 mg. > >It's going to be cheaper to make it yourself, but if that is too >overwhelming, just buy 1 oz of the 7% and get going, then figure it out >how you want to continue. I was a lot more motivated to make my own once I >had tried the Lugol's and knew I wanted to continue. > >You want Lugol's, not SSKI. SSKI is only one type of iodine, potassium >iodide. You need both that one and elemental iodine (the brown stuff). So >you want Lugol's. > >If you want more information, I'll answer your questions. I like buying >from this ebay seller because I can get everything I need from him in the >quantities I need, including dropper bottles etc. > >I have a recipe for Lugol's, but you have to have a decent digital scale to >make the recipe. However, if you asked that seller on ebay, I am positive >he would sell you the exact amounts needed to combine and make your own >Lugol's, and I'll help you figure out what those would be when the time >comes. Just let me know. > >One last thing-- That seller sells the 4 oz bottle of 2% Lugol's and he >also sells the 1 oz bottle of the 7% Lugol's. The two bottles are >essentially equal in the number of doses contained within them, and the >price on the 7% works out to a bit less overall. > >The general consensus on the web is that there are about 600 drops in 1 >ounce. These are vertical drops where the dropper is held >vertically. There will be more or less, but that's a rough figure. > >best wishes, >-- > >At 02:07 PM 6/22/2011, you wrote: > >Hey, allot of people say this guy is good. > ><http://cgi.ebay.ca/4oz-114g-potassium-iodide-ACS-grade-/280651699034>htt > p://cgi.ebay.ca/4oz-114g-potassium-iodide-ACS-grade-/280651699034 > >pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0 & hash=item415825135a#ht_500wt_935 > > > >He sells potassium iodide, and pure iodine elemental crystals. Are these > >the two I need to make lugos? What are the measurements for the mix. I > >think im confused on SSKI and all the different types of iodine. He also > >sells the premixed lugols in a dropper, 7% 1 fl ounce bottles. Do you know > >how many drops of this I would need in a day to make up 100 mg and 200 mg? > > > >Utterly confused, > >Ben > > > > > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > > > > So I am looking at finding a cheaper route for my iodine > supplementation. > > > > Allot of people have said full orchestra on ebay and make my own. > > Right now > > > > im on 50 mg iodoral from I herb but its pricy and if I want to up my > > intake > > > > to 200 mg per day I need to find a cheaper route. > > > > > > > > I noticed you can buy the lugols drops, 7-percent 1-ounce is about 8 > > > > dollars. Does anyone know how many drops are needed from a 7% > solution to > > > > make up 200mg per day? Does anyone know how many drops are in a 1-fl > > ounce > > > > container? I am trying to work out how much I need per month. > > > > > > > > The other option is to buy the elemental iodine crystals and the > > potassium > > > > iodine crystals and make my own. No clue on how to mix, how much > > crystals to > > > > buy of each product, and how to make it myself. How would I make a 7% > > > > solution? If someone could guide me on this I would appreciate it. > > > > > > > > If it's not much of a saving to make my own I may just buy the premixed > > > > from this guy. But depending on your answers I may brave it and try > > to make > > > > my own. > > > > > > > > Let me know your thoughts on both. > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > Ben > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > *"Throughout much of the world, most people are busy being boring."* > > > -*Tom Donohue* > > > > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------------ > > > >All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT > >group > <IodineOT/>IodineOT/ > > > > > >The NEW MEMBER DOCUMENT (#1 on the list) > ><iodine/files/01%20NEW%20MEMBERS%20- > %20READ%20FIRST/>iodine/files/01%20NEW%20MEMBERS%20-%20READ%20FIRST/ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2011 Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 Yes, several members on this forum buy from that seller and avidly endorse their products ~ though no one has ascertained what grade of materials they are using. The most that is said is they are inexpensive, ship fast, very helpful and they are satisfied with the product. I cannot speak to whether or not you should be concerned with that seller, the decision to buy from a licensed business or an unknown individual is a personal choice. Personally I am perplexed at the lack of concern for what grade of materials are being used. J. Crow's sells Lugol's as 2% or 5% pre-mixed and lists their products as being USP grade or higher and would be at risk of false advertising if they could not prove it. They are also more expensive than the ebay seller which isn't surprising as most businesses have more costs given the regulations they adhere to. One would have to price out USP grade or higher iodine crystals and USP grade or higher potassium iodide (purchased in bulk of course), business licensing, insurance, employee costs, adherence to FDA/DEA reporting, etc... in order to determine just how much price gouging (if any) is taking place with J. Crow's. In the meantime, it is a place to buy pre-mixed USP grade or higher product if one would like that option. That said, there are plenty of licensed companies in pharmaceutical or food manufacturing that have quality control issues themselves! But if a person is dealing with health issues sometimes they hope to know a little more about the products they consume if it is at all possible. The price per dosage of the J. Crow Lugol's is substantially less than the Iodoral tablet. The ebay seller is of course dirt cheap in comparison to J. Crow & Iodoral. Someone has probably sent you instructions on how to mix your own by now so I won't respond to that question. If not though, a search of this forum will bring up results from & also from Israel. If you have any luck determining the grade of product from the ebay seller please share :-) P.S. from the J. Crow's website: Calculating Number of MG's of Iodine and Potassium Iodide per Drop of Lugol's Solution: LUGOL'S 5%: Each VERTICAL drop is about 6.25 mg of iodine and 12.50 mg of potassium iodide. LUGOL'S 2%: Approximately 1/2 half the above measurements. > > > > > > So I am looking at finding a cheaper route for my iodine supplementation. Allot of people have said full orchestra on ebay and make my own. Right now im on 50 mg iodoral from I herb but its pricy and if I want to up my intake to 200 mg per day I need to find a cheaper route. > > > > > > I noticed you can buy the lugols drops, 7-percent 1-ounce is about 8 dollars. Does anyone know how many drops are needed from a 7% solution to make up 200mg per day? Does anyone know how many drops are in a 1-fl ounce container? I am trying to work out how much I need per month. > > > > > > The other option is to buy the elemental iodine crystals and the potassium iodine crystals and make my own. No clue on how to mix, how much crystals to buy of each product, and how to make it myself. How would I make a 7% solution? If someone could guide me on this I would appreciate it. > > > > > > If it's not much of a saving to make my own I may just buy the premixed from this guy. But depending on your answers I may brave it and try to make my own. > > > > > > Let me know your thoughts on both. > > > > > > Thanks > > > Ben > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2011 Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 Sorry, I hit send accidentally. You state Lugol's has 6.25 mgs iodine in addition to 12.5 mgs of potassium iodide. Is this correct? does this mean the total per drop is 18.75 mgs?Sent from my iPhone. Please excuse any typos.On Jun 22, 2011, at 3:15 PM, "baxrox" <baxrox@...> wrote: Yes, several members on this forum buy from that seller and avidly endorse their products ~ though no one has ascertained what grade of materials they are using. The most that is said is they are inexpensive, ship fast, very helpful and they are satisfied with the product. I cannot speak to whether or not you should be concerned with that seller, the decision to buy from a licensed business or an unknown individual is a personal choice. Personally I am perplexed at the lack of concern for what grade of materials are being used. J. Crow's sells Lugol's as 2% or 5% pre-mixed and lists their products as being USP grade or higher and would be at risk of false advertising if they could not prove it. They are also more expensive than the ebay seller which isn't surprising as most businesses have more costs given the regulations they adhere to. One would have to price out USP grade or higher iodine crystals and USP grade or higher potassium iodide (purchased in bulk of course), business licensing, insurance, employee costs, adherence to FDA/DEA reporting, etc... in order to determine just how much price gouging (if any) is taking place with J. Crow's. In the meantime, it is a place to buy pre-mixed USP grade or higher product if one would like that option. That said, there are plenty of licensed companies in pharmaceutical or food manufacturing that have quality control issues themselves! But if a person is dealing with health issues sometimes they hope to know a little more about the products they consume if it is at all possible. The price per dosage of the J. Crow Lugol's is substantially less than the Iodoral tablet. The ebay seller is of course dirt cheap in comparison to J. Crow & Iodoral. Someone has probably sent you instructions on how to mix your own by now so I won't respond to that question. If not though, a search of this forum will bring up results from & also from Israel. If you have any luck determining the grade of product from the ebay seller please share :-) P.S. from the J. Crow's website: Calculating Number of MG's of Iodine and Potassium Iodide per Drop of Lugol's Solution: LUGOL'S 5%: Each VERTICAL drop is about 6.25 mg of iodine and 12.50 mg of potassium iodide. LUGOL'S 2%: Approximately 1/2 half the above measurements. > > > > > > So I am looking at finding a cheaper route for my iodine supplementation. Allot of people have said full orchestra on ebay and make my own. Right now im on 50 mg iodoral from I herb but its pricy and if I want to up my intake to 200 mg per day I need to find a cheaper route. > > > > > > I noticed you can buy the lugols drops, 7-percent 1-ounce is about 8 dollars. Does anyone know how many drops are needed from a 7% solution to make up 200mg per day? Does anyone know how many drops are in a 1-fl ounce container? I am trying to work out how much I need per month. > > > > > > The other option is to buy the elemental iodine crystals and the potassium iodine crystals and make my own. No clue on how to mix, how much crystals to buy of each product, and how to make it myself. How would I make a 7% solution? If someone could guide me on this I would appreciate it. > > > > > > If it's not much of a saving to make my own I may just buy the premixed from this guy. But depending on your answers I may brave it and try to make my own. > > > > > > Let me know your thoughts on both. > > > > > > Thanks > > > Ben > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2011 Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 Ben, I don't know how long it will take to Canada. Let me ask you something though. Unless your need for weight loss is a significant factor in your ca, it would be better to focus on healing systemically now rather than weight loss. Vit C is super important to healing, and doing anything right now while you are trying to heal from cancer that requires you to restrict Vit C is not likely to be a good nutritional investment. Even if you do need to lose weight as part of your cancer treatment, it would be better to choose supplemental assistance that did not restrict Vit C. If you don't need to lose weight as part of your cancer treatment, I would like to suggest that right now is not the time to be trying to focus on that issue, particularly if it means that you restrict nutrients that you need to fight ca. Vit C is an antioxidant and if you want to cure the cancer you have to detox heavily and quickly. That's the whole point of getting to the high doses. And that's not the only reason for needing Vit C. The body desperately needs Vit C to fight the cancer. I really question this choice given the full picture. I don't know who the " experts " in iodine are that said given your full circumstances it would be ok to forgo Vit C, but I'm not impressed with the advice. Oleander looks to be an excellent addition to your protocol. I'm going to send you, offlist, a copy of an email I got from Dr Murphree, an MD I trust, which introduced his weight loss protocol based on a comprehensive supplementation program. Food for thought. -- At 04:13 PM 6/22/2011, you wrote: >Hey, I ordered 3bottles. I am in Canada, So I hope there is no customs >issues. I Iodoral no prob from IHERB. It got here with no issues. Hope the >liquid has the same luck.... > >I take 1 tbsp of celtic salt every day. Hope thats enough... > >I also take 200mg of Selenium >400mg of Chelate Magnesium (as of late it has caused loose bowel movements) >I cant take Vitamin C because Im on something to help with weight loss >called Hydrazine Sulphate and it restricts Vitamin C. Thats the only one I >dont take out of the protocol, some iodine experts told me that is ok. I >may just detox slower. So far ive been on 50mg a day and had no detox >symptoms or increased energy. When I get my lugols I will probably up it >to 100mg at first then 150, then 200. Do you know how fast it takes to >ship to Canada? > >Last I recently added oleandar to my protocol. Ive read its a good mix to >consider when taking Iodine. > > >From: B <vbaker@...> >iodine >Sent: Wed, June 22, 2011 2:05:00 PM >Subject: Re: Re: Advice please > > > >Hi Ben, > >I'm glad I've been able to help. Like the rest of the moderators, I have a >really busy life and sometimes it can take me awhile to get through the >listmail. > >I think it's best to start off with the premixed so you can get >started. If you can spend the money to get a few bottles, that would be >great, but the thing is I believe he may only be able to send 1 bottle at a >time of the 7% due to regulations, which means paying for shipping several >times. Check into it though, I could be very wrong on that. > >The ebay seller can take a few days to answer questions but he is very >quick about shipping orders. I'd just go ahead and order and get started, >and get the rest of it sorted out later. > >But do you have all the companion nutrients also? You must be on all the >companions, it's even more important with the kind of health issues you are >facing. The companions ensure that the body has what it needs to utilize >the iodine. If you already have them, start taking them now. Especially >the salt, get going on the salt big time. > >-- > >At 03:38 PM 6/22/2011, you wrote: > > >Hi , > >Thank you so much for this response. Ive been searching for weeks and you > >pretty much answered everything I have been searching for. > > > >I too was thinking of starting on the lugol's premixed than moving to > >making it myself. I have iodoral I am working through but it is going to > >be damn pricey to keep up with. I am only on 50 mg right now but would > >like to move up. Price was a factor, I am using it to treat cancer. > > > >So if my maths correct, if I am up to 200mg, 600 drops will last me 24 > >days. Perhaps I should get a few bottles to make sure they last me. Then > >if I like that after a couple months revisit making it myself. I emailed > >the ebay seller but he hasn't gotten back yet. This may be the fast and > >easy approach until I get sorted. > > > >Thanks again for helping me, its been hard to get clear cut answers to all > >my questions. I am ordering this afternoon. > > > > > > > >From: B <<mailto:vbaker%40sstar.com>vbaker@...> > ><mailto:iodine%40>iodine > >Sent: Wed, June 22, 2011 1:23:23 PM > >Subject: Re: Re: Advice please > > > > > > > >Yes, Ben, I've bought from this seller multiple times and his prices are > >fair and quality high. > > > >For 7% Lugol's, it would take about 6 drops to equal 50mg, 12 drops to > >equal 100mg, 24 drops to equal 200 mg. > > > >It's going to be cheaper to make it yourself, but if that is too > >overwhelming, just buy 1 oz of the 7% and get going, then figure it out > >how you want to continue. I was a lot more motivated to make my own once I > >had tried the Lugol's and knew I wanted to continue. > > > >You want Lugol's, not SSKI. SSKI is only one type of iodine, potassium > >iodide. You need both that one and elemental iodine (the brown stuff). So > >you want Lugol's. > > > >If you want more information, I'll answer your questions. I like buying > >from this ebay seller because I can get everything I need from him in the > >quantities I need, including dropper bottles etc. > > > >I have a recipe for Lugol's, but you have to have a decent digital scale to > >make the recipe. However, if you asked that seller on ebay, I am positive > >he would sell you the exact amounts needed to combine and make your own > >Lugol's, and I'll help you figure out what those would be when the time > >comes. Just let me know. > > > >One last thing-- That seller sells the 4 oz bottle of 2% Lugol's and he > >also sells the 1 oz bottle of the 7% Lugol's. The two bottles are > >essentially equal in the number of doses contained within them, and the > >price on the 7% works out to a bit less overall. > > > >The general consensus on the web is that there are about 600 drops in 1 > >ounce. These are vertical drops where the dropper is held > >vertically. There will be more or less, but that's a rough figure. > > > >best wishes, > >-- > > > >At 02:07 PM 6/22/2011, you wrote: > > >Hey, allot of people say this guy is good. > > ><<http://cgi.ebay.ca/4oz-114g-potassium-iodide-ACS-grade-/280651699034> > http://cgi.ebay.ca/4oz-114g-potassium-iodide-ACS-grade-/280651699034>htt > > p://cgi.ebay.ca/4oz-114g-potassium-iodide-ACS-grade-/280651699034 > > >pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0 & hash=item415825135a#ht_500wt_935 > > > > > >He sells potassium iodide, and pure iodine elemental crystals. Are these > > >the two I need to make lugos? What are the measurements for the mix. I > > >think im confused on SSKI and all the different types of iodine. He also > > >sells the premixed lugols in a dropper, 7% 1 fl ounce bottles. Do you know > > >how many drops of this I would need in a day to make up 100 mg and 200 mg? > > > > > >Utterly confused, > > >Ben > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So I am looking at finding a cheaper route for my iodine > > supplementation. > > > > > Allot of people have said full orchestra on ebay and make my own. > > > Right now > > > > > im on 50 mg iodoral from I herb but its pricy and if I want to up my > > > intake > > > > > to 200 mg per day I need to find a cheaper route. > > > > > > > > > > I noticed you can buy the lugols drops, 7-percent 1-ounce is about 8 > > > > > dollars. Does anyone know how many drops are needed from a 7% > > solution to > > > > > make up 200mg per day? Does anyone know how many drops are in a 1-fl > > > ounce > > > > > container? I am trying to work out how much I need per month. > > > > > > > > > > The other option is to buy the elemental iodine crystals and the > > > potassium > > > > > iodine crystals and make my own. No clue on how to mix, how much > > > crystals to > > > > > buy of each product, and how to make it myself. How would I make a 7% > > > > > solution? If someone could guide me on this I would appreciate it. > > > > > > > > > > If it's not much of a saving to make my own I may just buy the > premixed > > > > > from this guy. But depending on your answers I may brave it and try > > > to make > > > > > my own. > > > > > > > > > > Let me know your thoughts on both. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > Ben > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > * " Throughout much of the world, most people are busy being boring. " * > > > > -*Tom Donohue* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------------ > > > > > >All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT > > >group > > > <<IodineOT/>http://health./\ group/IodineOT/>IodineOT/ > > > > > > > > >The NEW MEMBER DOCUMENT (#1 on the list) > > ><<iodine/files/01%20NEW%20MEMBERS% > 20->iodine/files/01%20NEW%20MEMBERS%20- > > > %20READ%20FIRST/><iodine/files/01%20NEW%20M\ EMBERS%20-%20READ%20FIRST/>iodine/files/01%\ 20NEW%20MEMBERS%20-%20READ%20FIRST/ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2011 Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 , If I may interject here, Ben and other cancer patients take Hydrazine Sulfate to prevent weight loss (wasting away that can happen to cancer patients) It is not taken to lose weight, but to help prevent the cancer patient from losing too much weight. Best, Kathleen Re: Re: Advice please> >> >> >> >Yes, Ben, I've bought from this seller multiple times and his prices are> >fair and quality high.> >> >For 7% Lugol's, it would take about 6 drops to equal 50mg, 12 drops to> >equal 100mg, 24 drops to equal 200 mg.> >> >It's going to be cheaper to make it yourself, but if that is too> >overwhelming, just buy 1 oz of the 7% and get going, then figure it out> >how you want to continue. I was a lot more motivated to make my own once I> >had tried the Lugol's and knew I wanted to continue.> >> >You want Lugol's, not SSKI. SSKI is only one type of iodine, potassium> >iodide. You need both that one and elemental iodine (the brown stuff). So> >you want Lugol's.> >> >If you want more information, I'll answer your questions. I like buying> >from this ebay seller because I can get everything I need from him in the> >quantities I need, including dropper bottles etc.> >> >I have a recipe for Lugol's, but you have to have a decent digital scale to> >make the recipe. However, if you asked that seller on ebay, I am positive> >he would sell you the exact amounts needed to combine and make your own> >Lugol's, and I'll help you figure out what those would be when the time> >comes. Just let me know.> >> >One last thing-- That seller sells the 4 oz bottle of 2% Lugol's and he> >also sells the 1 oz bottle of the 7% Lugol's. The two bottles are> >essentially equal in the number of doses contained within them, and the> >price on the 7% works out to a bit less overall.> >> >The general consensus on the web is that there are about 600 drops in 1> >ounce. These are vertical drops where the dropper is held> >vertically. There will be more or less, but that's a rough figure.> >> >best wishes,> >--> >> >At 02:07 PM 6/22/2011, you wrote:> > >Hey, allot of people say this guy is good.> > ><<http://cgi.ebay.ca/4oz-114g-potassium-iodide-ACS-grade-/280651699034> > http://cgi.ebay.ca/4oz-114g-potassium-iodide-ACS-grade-/280651699034>htt> > p://cgi.ebay.ca/4oz-114g-potassium-iodide-ACS-grade-/280651699034> > >pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0 & hash=item415825135a#ht_500wt_935> > >> > >He sells potassium iodide, and pure iodine elemental crystals. Are these> > >the two I need to make lugos? What are the measurements for the mix. I> > >think im confused on SSKI and all the different types of iodine. He also> > >sells the premixed lugols in a dropper, 7% 1 fl ounce bottles. Do you know> > >how many drops of this I would need in a day to make up 100 mg and 200 mg?> > >> > >Utterly confused,> > >Ben> > >> > >> > > >> > > > > **> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > So I am looking at finding a cheaper route for my iodine> > supplementation.> > > > > Allot of people have said full orchestra on ebay and make my own.> > > Right now> > > > > im on 50 mg iodoral from I herb but its pricy and if I want to up my> > > intake> > > > > to 200 mg per day I need to find a cheaper route.> > > > >> > > > > I noticed you can buy the lugols drops, 7-percent 1-ounce is about 8> > > > > dollars. Does anyone know how many drops are needed from a 7%> > solution to> > > > > make up 200mg per day? Does anyone know how many drops are in a 1-fl> > > ounce> > > > > container? I am trying to work out how much I need per month.> > > > >> > > > > The other option is to buy the elemental iodine crystals and the> > > potassium> > > > > iodine crystals and make my own. No clue on how to mix, how much> > > crystals to> > > > > buy of each product, and how to make it myself. How would I make a 7%> > > > > solution? If someone could guide me on this I would appreciate it.> > > > >> > > > > If it's not much of a saving to make my own I may just buy the > premixed> > > > > from this guy. But depending on your answers I may brave it and try> > > to make> > > > > my own.> > > > >> > > > > Let me know your thoughts on both.> > > > >> > > > > Thanks> > > > > Ben> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > --> > > > *"Throughout much of the world, most people are busy being boring."*> > > > -*Tom Donohue*> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >------------------------------------> > >> > >All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT> > >group> > > <<IodineOT/>IodineOT/>IodineOT/> > >> > >> > >The NEW MEMBER DOCUMENT (#1 on the list)> > ><<iodine/files/01%20NEW%20MEMBERS% > 20->iodine/files/01%20NEW%20MEMBERS%20-> > > %20READ%20FIRST/><iodine/files/01%20NEW%20MEMBERS%20-%20READ%20FIRST/>iodine/files/01%20NEW%20MEMBERS%20-%20READ%20FIRST/ >> >> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2011 Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 Hey Vitoria,Sorry I must have mistyped. I wish weight loss was the issue, well it is. I am losing too much weight, the hydrazine sulfate reverses the body's cachexia cycle. Is supposed to help with weight gain. I am 30 years old 5'10 and now sit at about 128 pounds. Before I discovered the cancer I was sitting at about 170. In the last 7 months I have lost 40 pounds despite excessive effort to eat healthy fats, nuts, avacados, all things listed online as the healthy way to keep mass on. I decided to go on Hydeazine Sulfate about about a month ago or so. One is to work up to 3 pills a day. It is very restrictive in nature. No drugs, alcohol, vitamin c, vitamin B, and its a mao inhibitor so no aged foods (cheese, meats). The list of no's is actually way larger than that but that give you an idea. I was hoping by reading all the online testimonials It would really help me. After a month I have noticed no change. I did go down to 120 pounds, then decided to eat like a mad man because I was scared, havent been that weight since I was 12. I look pretty skinny. Anyway I managed to get my weight up to 130 but I think that was from forcing myself to eat 5 times a day, big meals. As soon as I went back to 3 means with snacks I went down to 128. Im trying to eat lots again but I fear the HS did nothing. I cant seem to find many who have used it despite the many online testimonials. Maybe it needs 2 months to kick in. Who knows, but ya I was scared to go off it in case it was working on some level as the weight loss has been pretty scary. Every week I get on the scales im afraid to look, when I lose more weight its one more thing to worry about while fighting this terrible disease. Anyway Ill stop going on and on, but thought I would clear the air.I am also takingLDN, Stuff for Candida, Iodine, Essiac Tea, DCA, was on cesium but had to stop because I may start electro medicine soon and you cant mix the two, baking soda, other herbs , vitamins, supplementsI am going to add Iscador, Oleander, Milk ThistleI hope something starts to work soon, Keeping up with all this protocols is like a job that doesnt pay. In fact its actually been really expensive and hard to track.BenFrom: B <vbaker@...>iodine Sent: Wed, June 22, 2011 6:51:55 PMSubject: Re: Re: Advice please Ben, I don't know how long it will take to Canada. Let me ask you something though. Unless your need for weight loss is a significant factor in your ca, it would be better to focus on healing systemically now rather than weight loss. Vit C is super important to healing, and doing anything right now while you are trying to heal from cancer that requires you to restrict Vit C is not likely to be a good nutritional investment. Even if you do need to lose weight as part of your cancer treatment, it would be better to choose supplemental assistance that did not restrict Vit C. If you don't need to lose weight as part of your cancer treatment, I would like to suggest that right now is not the time to be trying to focus on that issue, particularly if it means that you restrict nutrients that you need to fight ca. Vit C is an antioxidant and if you want to cure the cancer you have to detox heavily and quickly. That's the whole point of getting to the high doses. And that's not the only reason for needing Vit C. The body desperately needs Vit C to fight the cancer. I really question this choice given the full picture. I don't know who the "experts" in iodine are that said given your full circumstances it would be ok to forgo Vit C, but I'm not impressed with the advice. Oleander looks to be an excellent addition to your protocol. I'm going to send you, offlist, a copy of an email I got from Dr Murphree, an MD I trust, which introduced his weight loss protocol based on a comprehensive supplementation program. Food for thought. -- At 04:13 PM 6/22/2011, you wrote: >Hey, I ordered 3bottles. I am in Canada, So I hope there is no customs >issues. I Iodoral no prob from IHERB. It got here with no issues. Hope the >liquid has the same luck.... > >I take 1 tbsp of celtic salt every day. Hope thats enough... > >I also take 200mg of Selenium >400mg of Chelate Magnesium (as of late it has caused loose bowel movements) >I cant take Vitamin C because Im on something to help with weight loss >called Hydrazine Sulphate and it restricts Vitamin C. Thats the only one I >dont take out of the protocol, some iodine experts told me that is ok. I >may just detox slower. So far ive been on 50mg a day and had no detox >symptoms or increased energy. When I get my lugols I will probably up it >to 100mg at first then 150, then 200. Do you know how fast it takes to >ship to Canada? > >Last I recently added oleandar to my protocol. Ive read its a good mix to >consider when taking Iodine. > > >From: B <vbaker@...> >iodine >Sent: Wed, June 22, 2011 2:05:00 PM >Subject: Re: Re: Advice please > > > >Hi Ben, > >I'm glad I've been able to help. Like the rest of the moderators, I have a >really busy life and sometimes it can take me awhile to get through the >listmail. > >I think it's best to start off with the premixed so you can get >started. If you can spend the money to get a few bottles, that would be >great, but the thing is I believe he may only be able to send 1 bottle at a >time of the 7% due to regulations, which means paying for shipping several >times. Check into it though, I could be very wrong on that. > >The ebay seller can take a few days to answer questions but he is very >quick about shipping orders. I'd just go ahead and order and get started, >and get the rest of it sorted out later. > >But do you have all the companion nutrients also? You must be on all the >companions, it's even more important with the kind of health issues you are >facing. The companions ensure that the body has what it needs to utilize >the iodine. If you already have them, start taking them now. Especially >the salt, get going on the salt big time. > >-- > >At 03:38 PM 6/22/2011, you wrote: > > >Hi , > >Thank you so much for this response. Ive been searching for weeks and you > >pretty much answered everything I have been searching for. > > > >I too was thinking of starting on the lugol's premixed than moving to > >making it myself. I have iodoral I am working through but it is going to > >be damn pricey to keep up with. I am only on 50 mg right now but would > >like to move up. Price was a factor, I am using it to treat cancer. > > > >So if my maths correct, if I am up to 200mg, 600 drops will last me 24 > >days. Perhaps I should get a few bottles to make sure they last me. Then > >if I like that after a couple months revisit making it myself. I emailed > >the ebay seller but he hasn't gotten back yet. This may be the fast and > >easy approach until I get sorted. > > > >Thanks again for helping me, its been hard to get clear cut answers to all > >my questions. I am ordering this afternoon. > > > > > > > >From: B <<mailto:vbaker%40sstar.com>vbaker@...> > ><mailto:iodine%40>iodine > >Sent: Wed, June 22, 2011 1:23:23 PM > >Subject: Re: Re: Advice please > > > > > > > >Yes, Ben, I've bought from this seller multiple times and his prices are > >fair and quality high. > > > >For 7% Lugol's, it would take about 6 drops to equal 50mg, 12 drops to > >equal 100mg, 24 drops to equal 200 mg. > > > >It's going to be cheaper to make it yourself, but if that is too > >overwhelming, just buy 1 oz of the 7% and get going, then figure it out > >how you want to continue. I was a lot more motivated to make my own once I > >had tried the Lugol's and knew I wanted to continue. > > > >You want Lugol's, not SSKI. SSKI is only one type of iodine, potassium > >iodide. You need both that one and elemental iodine (the brown stuff). So > >you want Lugol's. > > > >If you want more information, I'll answer your questions. I like buying > >from this ebay seller because I can get everything I need from him in the > >quantities I need, including dropper bottles etc. > > > >I have a recipe for Lugol's, but you have to have a decent digital scale to > >make the recipe. However, if you asked that seller on ebay, I am positive > >he would sell you the exact amounts needed to combine and make your own > >Lugol's, and I'll help you figure out what those would be when the time > >comes. Just let me know. > > > >One last thing-- That seller sells the 4 oz bottle of 2% Lugol's and he > >also sells the 1 oz bottle of the 7% Lugol's. The two bottles are > >essentially equal in the number of doses contained within them, and the > >price on the 7% works out to a bit less overall. > > > >The general consensus on the web is that there are about 600 drops in 1 > >ounce. These are vertical drops where the dropper is held > >vertically. There will be more or less, but that's a rough figure. > > > >best wishes, > >-- > > > >At 02:07 PM 6/22/2011, you wrote: > > >Hey, allot of people say this guy is good. > > ><<http://cgi.ebay.ca/4oz-114g-potassium-iodide-ACS-grade-/280651699034> > http://cgi.ebay.ca/4oz-114g-potassium-iodide-ACS-grade-/280651699034>htt > > p://cgi.ebay.ca/4oz-114g-potassium-iodide-ACS-grade-/280651699034 > > >pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0 & hash=item415825135a#ht_500wt_935 > > > > > >He sells potassium iodide, and pure iodine elemental crystals. Are these > > >the two I need to make lugos? What are the measurements for the mix. I > > >think im confused on SSKI and all the different types of iodine. He also > > >sells the premixed lugols in a dropper, 7% 1 fl ounce bottles. Do you know > > >how many drops of this I would need in a day to make up 100 mg and 200 mg? > > > > > >Utterly confused, > > >Ben > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So I am looking at finding a cheaper route for my iodine > > supplementation. > > > > > Allot of people have said full orchestra on ebay and make my own. > > > Right now > > > > > im on 50 mg iodoral from I herb but its pricy and if I want to up my > > > intake > > > > > to 200 mg per day I need to find a cheaper route. > > > > > > > > > > I noticed you can buy the lugols drops, 7-percent 1-ounce is about 8 > > > > > dollars. Does anyone know how many drops are needed from a 7% > > solution to > > > > > make up 200mg per day? Does anyone know how many drops are in a 1-fl > > > ounce > > > > > container? I am trying to work out how much I need per month. > > > > > > > > > > The other option is to buy the elemental iodine crystals and the > > > potassium > > > > > iodine crystals and make my own. No clue on how to mix, how much > > > crystals to > > > > > buy of each product, and how to make it myself. How would I make a 7% > > > > > solution? If someone could guide me on this I would appreciate it. > > > > > > > > > > If it's not much of a saving to make my own I may just buy the > premixed > > > > > from this guy. But depending on your answers I may brave it and try > > > to make > > > > > my own. > > > > > > > > > > Let me know your thoughts on both. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > Ben > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > *"Throughout much of the world, most people are busy being boring."* > > > > -*Tom Donohue* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------------ > > > > > >All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT > > >group > > > <<IodineOT/>IodineOT/>IodineOT/ > > > > > > > > >The NEW MEMBER DOCUMENT (#1 on the list) > > ><<iodine/files/01%20NEW%20MEMBERS% > 20->iodine/files/01%20NEW%20MEMBERS%20- > > > %20READ%20FIRST/><iodine/files/01%20NEW%20MEMBERS%20-%20READ%20FIRST/>iodine/files/01%20NEW%20MEMBERS%20-%20READ%20FIRST/ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2011 Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 Oh gosh, Kathleen, thank you. Ben, I'm so sorry, I misunderstood. I still think limiting Vit C is not an acceptable tradeoff. Can you get medical cannabis? In any case, I am not a doctor. You do what you need to do. Sorry about the ignorance on my part. wishing you most well, -- At 09:03 PM 6/22/2011, you wrote: >, > If I may interject here, Ben and other cancer patients take Hydrazine > Sulfate to prevent weight loss (wasting away that can happen to cancer > patients) It is not taken to lose weight, but to help prevent the cancer > patient from losing too much weight. Best, Kathleen > Re: Re: Advice please > > > > > > > > > > > >Yes, Ben, I've bought from this seller multiple times and his prices are > > >fair and quality high. > > > > > >For 7% Lugol's, it would take about 6 drops to equal 50mg, 12 drops to > > >equal 100mg, 24 drops to equal 200 mg. > > > > > >It's going to be cheaper to make it yourself, but if that is too > > >overwhelming, just buy 1 oz of the 7% and get going, then figure it out > > >how you want to continue. I was a lot more motivated to make my own once I > > >had tried the Lugol's and knew I wanted to continue. > > > > > >You want Lugol's, not SSKI. SSKI is only one type of iodine, potassium > > >iodide. You need both that one and elemental iodine (the brown stuff). So > > >you want Lugol's. > > > > > >If you want more information, I'll answer your questions. I like buying > > >from this ebay seller because I can get everything I need from him in the > > >quantities I need, including dropper bottles etc. > > > > > >I have a recipe for Lugol's, but you have to have a decent digital > scale to > > >make the recipe. However, if you asked that seller on ebay, I am positive > > >he would sell you the exact amounts needed to combine and make your own > > >Lugol's, and I'll help you figure out what those would be when the time > > >comes. Just let me know. > > > > > >One last thing-- That seller sells the 4 oz bottle of 2% Lugol's and he > > >also sells the 1 oz bottle of the 7% Lugol's. The two bottles are > > >essentially equal in the number of doses contained within them, and the > > >price on the 7% works out to a bit less overall. > > > > > >The general consensus on the web is that there are about 600 drops in 1 > > >ounce. These are vertical drops where the dropper is held > > >vertically. There will be more or less, but that's a rough figure. > > > > > >best wishes, > > >-- > > > > > >At 02:07 PM 6/22/2011, you wrote: > > > >Hey, allot of people say this guy is good. > > > ><<<http://cgi.ebay.ca/4oz-114g-potassium-iodide-ACS-grade-/2806516990 > 34>http://cgi.ebay.ca/4oz-114g-potassium-iodide-ACS-grade-/280651699034> > > http://cgi.ebay.ca/4oz-114g-potassium-iodide-ACS-grade-/280651699034>htt > > > > <p://cgi.ebay.ca/4oz-114g-potassium-iodide-ACS-grade-/280651699034>p://cgi.ebay.\ ca/4oz-114g-potassium-iodide-ACS-grade-/280651699034 > > > >pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0 & hash=item415825135a#ht_500wt_935 > > > > > > > >He sells potassium iodide, and pure iodine elemental crystals. Are these > > > >the two I need to make lugos? What are the measurements for the mix. I > > > >think im confused on SSKI and all the different types of iodine. He also > > > >sells the premixed lugols in a dropper, 7% 1 fl ounce bottles. Do > you know > > > >how many drops of this I would need in a day to make up 100 mg and > 200 mg? > > > > > > > >Utterly confused, > > > >Ben > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So I am looking at finding a cheaper route for my iodine > > > supplementation. > > > > > > Allot of people have said full orchestra on ebay and make my own. > > > > Right now > > > > > > im on 50 mg iodoral from I herb but its pricy and if I want to > up my > > > > intake > > > > > > to 200 mg per day I need to find a cheaper route. > > > > > > > > > > > > I noticed you can buy the lugols drops, 7-percent 1-ounce is > about 8 > > > > > > dollars. Does anyone know how many drops are needed from a 7% > > > solution to > > > > > > make up 200mg per day? Does anyone know how many drops are in a > 1-fl > > > > ounce > > > > > > container? I am trying to work out how much I need per month. > > > > > > > > > > > > The other option is to buy the elemental iodine crystals and the > > > > potassium > > > > > > iodine crystals and make my own. No clue on how to mix, how much > > > > crystals to > > > > > > buy of each product, and how to make it myself. How would I > make a 7% > > > > > > solution? If someone could guide me on this I would appreciate it. > > > > > > > > > > > > If it's not much of a saving to make my own I may just buy the > > premixed > > > > > > from this guy. But depending on your answers I may brave it and try > > > > to make > > > > > > my own. > > > > > > > > > > > > Let me know your thoughts on both. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Ben > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > * " Throughout much of the world, most people are busy being boring. " * > > > > > -*Tom Donohue* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------------ > > > > > > > >All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT > > > >group > > > > > > <<<IodineOT/>http://health.\ /group/IodineOT/>IodineOT/>http://health.gr\ oups./group/IodineOT/ > > > > > > > > > > > >The NEW MEMBER DOCUMENT (#1 on the list) > > > ><<<iodine/files/01%20NEW%20MEMBE > RS%>iodine/files/01%20NEW%20MEMBERS% > > > 20->iodine/files/01%20NEW%20MEMBERS%20- > > > > > > %20READ%20FIRST/><<iodine/files/01%20NEW%20\ MEMBERS%20-%20READ%20FIRST/>iodine/files/01\ %20NEW%20MEMBERS%20-%20READ%20FIRST/>iodine\ /files/01%20NEW%20MEMBERS%20-%20READ%20FIRST/ > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2011 Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 I rather smoke the J and ditch the medication and take my vitamin C. Trust me J will help your appetite. From: B <vbaker@...>iodine Sent: Wed, June 22, 2011 9:27:31 PMSubject: Re: Re: Advice please Oh gosh, Kathleen, thank you. Ben, I'm so sorry, I misunderstood. I still think limiting Vit C is not an acceptable tradeoff. Can you get medical cannabis? In any case, I am not a doctor. You do what you need to do. Sorry about the ignorance on my part. wishing you most well, -- At 09:03 PM 6/22/2011, you wrote: >, > If I may interject here, Ben and other cancer patients take Hydrazine > Sulfate to prevent weight loss (wasting away that can happen to cancer > patients) It is not taken to lose weight, but to help prevent the cancer > patient from losing too much weight. Best, Kathleen > Re: Re: Advice please > > > > > > > > > > > >Yes, Ben, I've bought from this seller multiple times and his prices are > > >fair and quality high. > > > > > >For 7% Lugol's, it would take about 6 drops to equal 50mg, 12 drops to > > >equal 100mg, 24 drops to equal 200 mg. > > > > > >It's going to be cheaper to make it yourself, but if that is too > > >overwhelming, just buy 1 oz of the 7% and get going, then figure it out > > >how you want to continue. I was a lot more motivated to make my own once I > > >had tried the Lugol's and knew I wanted to continue. > > > > > >You want Lugol's, not SSKI. SSKI is only one type of iodine, potassium > > >iodide. You need both that one and elemental iodine (the brown stuff). So > > >you want Lugol's. > > > > > >If you want more information, I'll answer your questions. I like buying > > >from this ebay seller because I can get everything I need from him in the > > >quantities I need, including dropper bottles etc. > > > > > >I have a recipe for Lugol's, but you have to have a decent digital > scale to > > >make the recipe. However, if you asked that seller on ebay, I am positive > > >he would sell you the exact amounts needed to combine and make your own > > >Lugol's, and I'll help you figure out what those would be when the time > > >comes. Just let me know. > > > > > >One last thing-- That seller sells the 4 oz bottle of 2% Lugol's and he > > >also sells the 1 oz bottle of the 7% Lugol's. The two bottles are > > >essentially equal in the number of doses contained within them, and the > > >price on the 7% works out to a bit less overall. > > > > > >The general consensus on the web is that there are about 600 drops in 1 > > >ounce. These are vertical drops where the dropper is held > > >vertically. There will be more or less, but that's a rough figure. > > > > > >best wishes, > > >-- > > > > > >At 02:07 PM 6/22/2011, you wrote: > > > >Hey, allot of people say this guy is good. > > > ><<<http://cgi.ebay.ca/4oz-114g-potassium-iodide-ACS-grade-/2806516990 > 34>http://cgi.ebay.ca/4oz-114g-potassium-iodide-ACS-grade-/280651699034> > > http://cgi.ebay.ca/4oz-114g-potassium-iodide-ACS-grade-/280651699034>htt > > > > <p://cgi.ebay.ca/4oz-114g-potassium-iodide-ACS-grade-/280651699034>p://cgi.ebay.ca/4oz-114g-potassium-iodide-ACS-grade-/280651699034 > > > >pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0 & hash=item415825135a#ht_500wt_935 > > > > > > > >He sells potassium iodide, and pure iodine elemental crystals. Are these > > > >the two I need to make lugos? What are the measurements for the mix. I > > > >think im confused on SSKI and all the different types of iodine. He also > > > >sells the premixed lugols in a dropper, 7% 1 fl ounce bottles. Do > you know > > > >how many drops of this I would need in a day to make up 100 mg and > 200 mg? > > > > > > > >Utterly confused, > > > >Ben > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So I am looking at finding a cheaper route for my iodine > > > supplementation. > > > > > > Allot of people have said full orchestra on ebay and make my own. > > > > Right now > > > > > > im on 50 mg iodoral from I herb but its pricy and if I want to > up my > > > > intake > > > > > > to 200 mg per day I need to find a cheaper route. > > > > > > > > > > > > I noticed you can buy the lugols drops, 7-percent 1-ounce is > about 8 > > > > > > dollars. Does anyone know how many drops are needed from a 7% > > > solution to > > > > > > make up 200mg per day? Does anyone know how many drops are in a > 1-fl > > > > ounce > > > > > > container? I am trying to work out how much I need per month. > > > > > > > > > > > > The other option is to buy the elemental iodine crystals and the > > > > potassium > > > > > > iodine crystals and make my own. No clue on how to mix, how much > > > > crystals to > > > > > > buy of each product, and how to make it myself. How would I > make a 7% > > > > > > solution? If someone could guide me on this I would appreciate it. > > > > > > > > > > > > If it's not much of a saving to make my own I may just buy the > > premixed > > > > > > from this guy. But depending on your answers I may brave it and try > > > > to make > > > > > > my own. > > > > > > > > > > > > Let me know your thoughts on both. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Ben > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > *"Throughout much of the world, most people are busy being boring."* > > > > > -*Tom Donohue* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------------ > > > > > > > >All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT > > > >group > > > > > > <<<IodineOT/>IodineOT/>IodineOT/>IodineOT/ > > > > > > > > > > > >The NEW MEMBER DOCUMENT (#1 on the list) > > > ><<<iodine/files/01%20NEW%20MEMBE > RS%>iodine/files/01%20NEW%20MEMBERS% > > > 20->iodine/files/01%20NEW%20MEMBERS%20- > > > > > > %20READ%20FIRST/><<iodine/files/01%20NEW%20MEMBERS%20-%20READ%20FIRST/>iodine/files/01%20NEW%20MEMBERS%20-%20READ%20FIRST/>iodine/files/01%20NEW%20MEMBERS%20-%20READ%20FIRST/ > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2011 Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 I gained 40 pounds on LDN Ben. You may want to try that. From: Ben Roche <ben_roche1@...>iodine Sent: Wed, June 22, 2011 9:05:54 PMSubject: Re: Re: Advice please Hey Vitoria,Sorry I must have mistyped. I wish weight loss was the issue, well it is. I am losing too much weight, the hydrazine sulfate reverses the body's cachexia cycle. Is supposed to help with weight gain. I am 30 years old 5'10 and now sit at about 128 pounds. Before I discovered the cancer I was sitting at about 170. In the last 7 months I have lost 40 pounds despite excessive effort to eat healthy fats, nuts, avacados, all things listed online as the healthy way to keep mass on. I decided to go on Hydeazine Sulfate about about a month ago or so. One is to work up to 3 pills a day. It is very restrictive in nature. No drugs, alcohol, vitamin c, vitamin B, and its a mao inhibitor so no aged foods (cheese, meats). The list of no's is actually way larger than that but that give you an idea. I was hoping by reading all the online testimonials It would really help me. After a month I have noticed no change. I did go down to 120 pounds, then decided to eat like a mad man because I was scared, havent been that weight since I was 12. I look pretty skinny. Anyway I managed to get my weight up to 130 but I think that was from forcing myself to eat 5 times a day, big meals. As soon as I went back to 3 means with snacks I went down to 128. Im trying to eat lots again but I fear the HS did nothing. I cant seem to find many who have used it despite the many online testimonials. Maybe it needs 2 months to kick in. Who knows, but ya I was scared to go off it in case it was working on some level as the weight loss has been pretty scary. Every week I get on the scales im afraid to look, when I lose more weight its one more thing to worry about while fighting this terrible disease. Anyway Ill stop going on and on, but thought I would clear the air.I am also takingLDN, Stuff for Candida, Iodine, Essiac Tea, DCA, was on cesium but had to stop because I may start electro medicine soon and you cant mix the two, baking soda, other herbs , vitamins, supplementsI am going to add Iscador, Oleander, Milk ThistleI hope something starts to work soon, Keeping up with all this protocols is like a job that doesnt pay. In fact its actually been really expensive and hard to track.BenFrom: B <vbaker@...>iodine Sent: Wed, June 22, 2011 6:51:55 PMSubject: Re: Re: Advice please Ben, I don't know how long it will take to Canada. Let me ask you something though. Unless your need for weight loss is a significant factor in your ca, it would be better to focus on healing systemically now rather than weight loss. Vit C is super important to healing, and doing anything right now while you are trying to heal from cancer that requires you to restrict Vit C is not likely to be a good nutritional investment. Even if you do need to lose weight as part of your cancer treatment, it would be better to choose supplemental assistance that did not restrict Vit C. If you don't need to lose weight as part of your cancer treatment, I would like to suggest that right now is not the time to be trying to focus on that issue, particularly if it means that you restrict nutrients that you need to fight ca. Vit C is an antioxidant and if you want to cure the cancer you have to detox heavily and quickly. That's the whole point of getting to the high doses. And that's not the only reason for needing Vit C. The body desperately needs Vit C to fight the cancer. I really question this choice given the full picture. I don't know who the "experts" in iodine are that said given your full circumstances it would be ok to forgo Vit C, but I'm not impressed with the advice. Oleander looks to be an excellent addition to your protocol. I'm going to send you, offlist, a copy of an email I got from Dr Murphree, an MD I trust, which introduced his weight loss protocol based on a comprehensive supplementation program. Food for thought. -- At 04:13 PM 6/22/2011, you wrote: >Hey, I ordered 3bottles. I am in Canada, So I hope there is no customs >issues. I Iodoral no prob from IHERB. It got here with no issues. Hope the >liquid has the same luck.... > >I take 1 tbsp of celtic salt every day. Hope thats enough... > >I also take 200mg of Selenium >400mg of Chelate Magnesium (as of late it has caused loose bowel movements) >I cant take Vitamin C because Im on something to help with weight loss >called Hydrazine Sulphate and it restricts Vitamin C. Thats the only one I >dont take out of the protocol, some iodine experts told me that is ok. I >may just detox slower. So far ive been on 50mg a day and had no detox >symptoms or increased energy. When I get my lugols I will probably up it >to 100mg at first then 150, then 200. Do you know how fast it takes to >ship to Canada? > >Last I recently added oleandar to my protocol. Ive read its a good mix to >consider when taking Iodine. > > >From: B <vbaker@...> >iodine >Sent: Wed, June 22, 2011 2:05:00 PM >Subject: Re: Re: Advice please > > > >Hi Ben, > >I'm glad I've been able to help. Like the rest of the moderators, I have a >really busy life and sometimes it can take me awhile to get through the >listmail. > >I think it's best to start off with the premixed so you can get >started. If you can spend the money to get a few bottles, that would be >great, but the thing is I believe he may only be able to send 1 bottle at a >time of the 7% due to regulations, which means paying for shipping several >times. Check into it though, I could be very wrong on that. > >The ebay seller can take a few days to answer questions but he is very >quick about shipping orders. I'd just go ahead and order and get started, >and get the rest of it sorted out later. > >But do you have all the companion nutrients also? You must be on all the >companions, it's even more important with the kind of health issues you are >facing. The companions ensure that the body has what it needs to utilize >the iodine. If you already have them, start taking them now. Especially >the salt, get going on the salt big time. > >-- > >At 03:38 PM 6/22/2011, you wrote: > > >Hi , > >Thank you so much for this response. Ive been searching for weeks and you > >pretty much answered everything I have been searching for. > > > >I too was thinking of starting on the lugol's premixed than moving to > >making it myself. I have iodoral I am working through but it is going to > >be damn pricey to keep up with. I am only on 50 mg right now but would > >like to move up. Price was a factor, I am using it to treat cancer. > > > >So if my maths correct, if I am up to 200mg, 600 drops will last me 24 > >days. Perhaps I should get a few bottles to make sure they last me. Then > >if I like that after a couple months revisit making it myself. I emailed > >the ebay seller but he hasn't gotten back yet. This may be the fast and > >easy approach until I get sorted. > > > >Thanks again for helping me, its been hard to get clear cut answers to all > >my questions. I am ordering this afternoon. > > > > > > > >From: B <<mailto:vbaker%40sstar.com>vbaker@...> > ><mailto:iodine%40>iodine > >Sent: Wed, June 22, 2011 1:23:23 PM > >Subject: Re: Re: Advice please > > > > > > > >Yes, Ben, I've bought from this seller multiple times and his prices are > >fair and quality high. > > > >For 7% Lugol's, it would take about 6 drops to equal 50mg, 12 drops to > >equal 100mg, 24 drops to equal 200 mg. > > > >It's going to be cheaper to make it yourself, but if that is too > >overwhelming, just buy 1 oz of the 7% and get going, then figure it out > >how you want to continue. I was a lot more motivated to make my own once I > >had tried the Lugol's and knew I wanted to continue. > > > >You want Lugol's, not SSKI. SSKI is only one type of iodine, potassium > >iodide. You need both that one and elemental iodine (the brown stuff). So > >you want Lugol's. > > > >If you want more information, I'll answer your questions. I like buying > >from this ebay seller because I can get everything I need from him in the > >quantities I need, including dropper bottles etc. > > > >I have a recipe for Lugol's, but you have to have a decent digital scale to > >make the recipe. However, if you asked that seller on ebay, I am positive > >he would sell you the exact amounts needed to combine and make your own > >Lugol's, and I'll help you figure out what those would be when the time > >comes. Just let me know. > > > >One last thing-- That seller sells the 4 oz bottle of 2% Lugol's and he > >also sells the 1 oz bottle of the 7% Lugol's. The two bottles are > >essentially equal in the number of doses contained within them, and the > >price on the 7% works out to a bit less overall. > > > >The general consensus on the web is that there are about 600 drops in 1 > >ounce. These are vertical drops where the dropper is held > >vertically. There will be more or less, but that's a rough figure. > > > >best wishes, > >-- > > > >At 02:07 PM 6/22/2011, you wrote: > > >Hey, allot of people say this guy is good. > > ><<http://cgi.ebay.ca/4oz-114g-potassium-iodide-ACS-grade-/280651699034> > http://cgi.ebay.ca/4oz-114g-potassium-iodide-ACS-grade-/280651699034>htt > > p://cgi.ebay.ca/4oz-114g-potassium-iodide-ACS-grade-/280651699034 > > >pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0 & hash=item415825135a#ht_500wt_935 > > > > > >He sells potassium iodide, and pure iodine elemental crystals. Are these > > >the two I need to make lugos? What are the measurements for the mix. I > > >think im confused on SSKI and all the different types of iodine. He also > > >sells the premixed lugols in a dropper, 7% 1 fl ounce bottles. Do you know > > >how many drops of this I would need in a day to make up 100 mg and 200 mg? > > > > > >Utterly confused, > > >Ben > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So I am looking at finding a cheaper route for my iodine > > supplementation. > > > > > Allot of people have said full orchestra on ebay and make my own. > > > Right now > > > > > im on 50 mg iodoral from I herb but its pricy and if I want to up my > > > intake > > > > > to 200 mg per day I need to find a cheaper route. > > > > > > > > > > I noticed you can buy the lugols drops, 7-percent 1-ounce is about 8 > > > > > dollars. Does anyone know how many drops are needed from a 7% > > solution to > > > > > make up 200mg per day? Does anyone know how many drops are in a 1-fl > > > ounce > > > > > container? I am trying to work out how much I need per month. > > > > > > > > > > The other option is to buy the elemental iodine crystals and the > > > potassium > > > > > iodine crystals and make my own. No clue on how to mix, how much > > > crystals to > > > > > buy of each product, and how to make it myself. How would I make a 7% > > > > > solution? If someone could guide me on this I would appreciate it. > > > > > > > > > > If it's not much of a saving to make my own I may just buy the > premixed > > > > > from this guy. But depending on your answers I may brave it and try > > > to make > > > > > my own. > > > > > > > > > > Let me know your thoughts on both. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > Ben > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > *"Throughout much of the world, most people are busy being boring."* > > > > -*Tom Donohue* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------------ > > > > > >All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT > > >group > > > <<IodineOT/>IodineOT/>IodineOT/ > > > > > > > > >The NEW MEMBER DOCUMENT (#1 on the list) > > ><<iodine/files/01%20NEW%20MEMBERS% > 20->iodine/files/01%20NEW%20MEMBERS%20- > > > %20READ%20FIRST/><iodine/files/01%20NEW%20MEMBERS%20-%20READ%20FIRST/>iodine/files/01%20NEW%20MEMBERS%20-%20READ%20FIRST/ > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2011 Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 Ben -- and Group -- this is as much an inquiry as a response, but to answer a couple of Ben's questions, for NON-MEDICAL purposes (i.e. typical eyedroppers that aren't precise droplet formers) the general household measurement rule is 60 drops = 1 teaspoon, 3 tsp = tablespoon, 2 tbsp = 1 oz. YMMV, because droppers are notoriously imprecise measures. If you aren't used to working with chemicals and don't have a precise scale and other liquid measuring devices I would suggest you not try mixing your own Lugol's solution just now -- buy commercially, from a reasonable source. Definitionally, a solution -- like Lugol's -- is a weight to volume percentage, meaning it expresses the number of grams of solute in a total volume of 100 mL of solvent. Increase the amount of solute, the percentage goes up, add more solvent, the percentage drops. J.Crows says its Lugol's 5% yields a drop containing 6.25 mg iodine AND 12.5 mg potassium iodide (KI) for a total of 18. 75 mg solute per drop. (For comparison, Iodoral 50 contains 20 mg iodine and 30 mg KI, so the formulas are not quite identically balanced.) I don''t know exactly what mix the ebay seller is using for his 7% formulation, but it ought to sort out at roughly 8.75 mg iodine + 14 mg KI Again, this is 22.75mg PER DROP. And this gives rise to my question: looking at the q & a doc and a lot It of these questions and responses, it appears to me that when members talk about their Iodoral doses they talk in terms of the sum of iodine + KI, as in Iodoral 50, but when talking about Lugols dosing they use only the iodine figure and omit any consideration of the potassium iodide in the mix. This may just be my misunderstanding of established usage since I'm new here, but it seems to me that there is potential risk in calculating daily intake if you're using Lugol's and might be thinking you're getting a small amount (the iodine number) and overlooking the KI amt which triples the total. Comments? Regards, Megaera Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2011 Report Share Posted June 22, 2011 Hey Ben, Yes, I got informed by Kathleen. Glad to hear you're taking LDN. You really need Vit C and B, and I don't see how it could be helping to have to worry about all the things you can't eat when you're supposed to be gaining weight-- aged cheeses and meats are some of the tastiest foods and are good for adding calories. To me it sounds like what worked was your superhuman effort to eat, and not the pills. I mentioned medical cannabis in a previous email. Much more effective. Yes, you've got a lot to be managing and it is expensive. I wish you had a practitioner you trusted who could help you get organized. You are to be commended for your courage in following what you know to be true and not allowing yourself to be a guinea pig for pharma. I have said a prayer for you. with all best wishes, -- At 09:05 PM 6/22/2011, you wrote: >Hey Vitoria, >Sorry I must have mistyped. I wish weight loss was the issue, well it is. >I am losing too much weight, the hydrazine sulfate reverses the body's >cachexia cycle. Is supposed to help with weight gain. I am 30 years old >5'10 and now sit at about 128 pounds. Before I discovered the cancer I was >sitting at about 170. In the last 7 months I have lost 40 pounds despite >excessive effort to eat healthy fats, nuts, avacados, all things listed >online as the healthy way to keep mass on. I decided to go on Hydeazine >Sulfate about about a month ago or so. One is to work up to 3 pills a day. >It is very restrictive in nature. No drugs, alcohol, vitamin c, vitamin B, >and its a mao inhibitor so no aged foods (cheese, meats). The list of no's >is actually way larger than that but that give you an idea. I was hoping >by reading all the online testimonials It would really help me. After a >month I have noticed no change. I did go down to 120 pounds, then decided >to eat like a mad man because I was scared, havent been that weight since >I was 12. I look pretty skinny. Anyway I managed to get my weight up to >130 but I think that was from forcing myself to eat 5 times a day, big >meals. As soon as I went back to 3 means with snacks I went down to 128. >Im trying to eat lots again but I fear the HS did nothing. I cant seem to >find many who have used it despite the many online testimonials. Maybe it >needs 2 months to kick in. Who knows, but ya I was scared to go off it in >case it was working on some level as the weight loss has been pretty >scary. Every week I get on the scales im afraid to look, when I lose more >weight its one more thing to worry about while fighting this terrible >disease. Anyway Ill stop going on and on, but thought I would clear the air. > >I am also taking >LDN, Stuff for Candida, Iodine, Essiac Tea, DCA, was on cesium but had to >stop because I may start electro medicine soon and you cant mix the two, >baking soda, other herbs , vitamins, supplements > >I am going to add Iscador, Oleander, Milk Thistle > >I hope something starts to work soon, Keeping up with all this protocols >is like a job that doesnt pay. In fact its actually been really expensive >and hard to track. > >Ben > > > >From: B <vbaker@...> >iodine >Sent: Wed, June 22, 2011 6:51:55 PM >Subject: Re: Re: Advice please > > > >Ben, > >I don't know how long it will take to Canada. > >Let me ask you something though. Unless your need for weight loss is a >significant factor in your ca, it would be better to focus on healing >systemically now rather than weight loss. Vit C is super important to >healing, and doing anything right now while you are trying to heal from >cancer that requires you to restrict Vit C is not likely to be a good >nutritional investment. Even if you do need to lose weight as part of your >cancer treatment, it would be better to choose supplemental assistance that >did not restrict Vit C. If you don't need to lose weight as part of your >cancer treatment, I would like to suggest that right now is not the time to >be trying to focus on that issue, particularly if it means that you >restrict nutrients that you need to fight ca. > >Vit C is an antioxidant and if you want to cure the cancer you have to >detox heavily and quickly. That's the whole point of getting to the high >doses. And that's not the only reason for needing Vit C. The body >desperately needs Vit C to fight the cancer. I really question this choice >given the full picture. > >I don't know who the " experts " in iodine are that said given your full >circumstances it would be ok to forgo Vit C, but I'm not impressed with the >advice. > >Oleander looks to be an excellent addition to your protocol. > >I'm going to send you, offlist, a copy of an email I got from Dr Murphree, >an MD I trust, which introduced his weight loss protocol based on a >comprehensive supplementation program. Food for thought. > >-- > >At 04:13 PM 6/22/2011, you wrote: > > >Hey, I ordered 3bottles. I am in Canada, So I hope there is no customs > >issues. I Iodoral no prob from IHERB. It got here with no issues. Hope the > >liquid has the same luck.... > > > >I take 1 tbsp of celtic salt every day. Hope thats enough... > > > >I also take 200mg of Selenium > >400mg of Chelate Magnesium (as of late it has caused loose bowel movements) > >I cant take Vitamin C because Im on something to help with weight loss > >called Hydrazine Sulphate and it restricts Vitamin C. Thats the only one I > >dont take out of the protocol, some iodine experts told me that is ok. I > >may just detox slower. So far ive been on 50mg a day and had no detox > >symptoms or increased energy. When I get my lugols I will probably up it > >to 100mg at first then 150, then 200. Do you know how fast it takes to > >ship to Canada? > > > >Last I recently added oleandar to my protocol. Ive read its a good mix to > >consider when taking Iodine. > > > > > >From: B <<mailto:vbaker%40sstar.com>vbaker@...> > ><mailto:iodine%40>iodine > >Sent: Wed, June 22, 2011 2:05:00 PM > >Subject: Re: Re: Advice please > > > > > > > >Hi Ben, > > > >I'm glad I've been able to help. Like the rest of the moderators, I have a > >really busy life and sometimes it can take me awhile to get through the > >listmail. > > > >I think it's best to start off with the premixed so you can get > >started. If you can spend the money to get a few bottles, that would be > >great, but the thing is I believe he may only be able to send 1 bottle at a > >time of the 7% due to regulations, which means paying for shipping several > >times. Check into it though, I could be very wrong on that. > > > >The ebay seller can take a few days to answer questions but he is very > >quick about shipping orders. I'd just go ahead and order and get started, > >and get the rest of it sorted out later. > > > >But do you have all the companion nutrients also? You must be on all the > >companions, it's even more important with the kind of health issues you are > >facing. The companions ensure that the body has what it needs to utilize > >the iodine. If you already have them, start taking them now. Especially > >the salt, get going on the salt big time. > > > >-- > > > >At 03:38 PM 6/22/2011, you wrote: > > > > >Hi , > > >Thank you so much for this response. Ive been searching for weeks and you > > >pretty much answered everything I have been searching for. > > > > > >I too was thinking of starting on the lugol's premixed than moving to > > >making it myself. I have iodoral I am working through but it is going to > > >be damn pricey to keep up with. I am only on 50 mg right now but would > > >like to move up. Price was a factor, I am using it to treat cancer. > > > > > >So if my maths correct, if I am up to 200mg, 600 drops will last me 24 > > >days. Perhaps I should get a few bottles to make sure they last me. Then > > >if I like that after a couple months revisit making it myself. I emailed > > >the ebay seller but he hasn't gotten back yet. This may be the fast and > > >easy approach until I get sorted. > > > > > >Thanks again for helping me, its been hard to get clear cut answers to all > > >my questions. I am ordering this afternoon. > > > > > > > > > > > >From: B > <<mailto:vbaker%40sstar.com><mailto:vbaker%40sstar.com>vbaker@...> > > ><mailto:iodine%40>iodine > > >Sent: Wed, June 22, 2011 1:23:23 PM > > >Subject: Re: Re: Advice please > > > > > > > > > > > >Yes, Ben, I've bought from this seller multiple times and his prices are > > >fair and quality high. > > > > > >For 7% Lugol's, it would take about 6 drops to equal 50mg, 12 drops to > > >equal 100mg, 24 drops to equal 200 mg. > > > > > >It's going to be cheaper to make it yourself, but if that is too > > >overwhelming, just buy 1 oz of the 7% and get going, then figure it out > > >how you want to continue. I was a lot more motivated to make my own once I > > >had tried the Lugol's and knew I wanted to continue. > > > > > >You want Lugol's, not SSKI. SSKI is only one type of iodine, potassium > > >iodide. You need both that one and elemental iodine (the brown stuff). So > > >you want Lugol's. > > > > > >If you want more information, I'll answer your questions. I like buying > > >from this ebay seller because I can get everything I need from him in the > > >quantities I need, including dropper bottles etc. > > > > > >I have a recipe for Lugol's, but you have to have a decent digital > scale to > > >make the recipe. However, if you asked that seller on ebay, I am positive > > >he would sell you the exact amounts needed to combine and make your own > > >Lugol's, and I'll help you figure out what those would be when the time > > >comes. Just let me know. > > > > > >One last thing-- That seller sells the 4 oz bottle of 2% Lugol's and he > > >also sells the 1 oz bottle of the 7% Lugol's. The two bottles are > > >essentially equal in the number of doses contained within them, and the > > >price on the 7% works out to a bit less overall. > > > > > >The general consensus on the web is that there are about 600 drops in 1 > > >ounce. These are vertical drops where the dropper is held > > >vertically. There will be more or less, but that's a rough figure. > > > > > >best wishes, > > >-- > > > > > >At 02:07 PM 6/22/2011, you wrote: > > > >Hey, allot of people say this guy is good. > > > ><<<http://cgi.ebay.ca/4oz-114g-potassium-iodide-ACS-grade-/2806516990 > 34>http://cgi.ebay.ca/4oz-114g-potassium-iodide-ACS-grade-/280651699034> > > http://cgi.ebay.ca/4oz-114g-potassium-iodide-ACS-grade-/280651699034>htt > > > p://cgi.ebay.ca/4oz-114g-potassium-iodide-ACS-grade-/280651699034 > > > >pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0 & hash=item415825135a#ht_500wt_935 > > > > > > > >He sells potassium iodide, and pure iodine elemental crystals. Are these > > > >the two I need to make lugos? What are the measurements for the mix. I > > > >think im confused on SSKI and all the different types of iodine. He also > > > >sells the premixed lugols in a dropper, 7% 1 fl ounce bottles. Do > you know > > > >how many drops of this I would need in a day to make up 100 mg and > 200 mg? > > > > > > > >Utterly confused, > > > >Ben > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So I am looking at finding a cheaper route for my iodine > > > supplementation. > > > > > > Allot of people have said full orchestra on ebay and make my own. > > > > Right now > > > > > > im on 50 mg iodoral from I herb but its pricy and if I want to > up my > > > > intake > > > > > > to 200 mg per day I need to find a cheaper route. > > > > > > > > > > > > I noticed you can buy the lugols drops, 7-percent 1-ounce is > about 8 > > > > > > dollars. Does anyone know how many drops are needed from a 7% > > > solution to > > > > > > make up 200mg per day? Does anyone know how many drops are in a > 1-fl > > > > ounce > > > > > > container? I am trying to work out how much I need per month. > > > > > > > > > > > > The other option is to buy the elemental iodine crystals and the > > > > potassium > > > > > > iodine crystals and make my own. No clue on how to mix, how much > > > > crystals to > > > > > > buy of each product, and how to make it myself. How would I > make a 7% > > > > > > solution? If someone could guide me on this I would appreciate it. > > > > > > > > > > > > If it's not much of a saving to make my own I may just buy the > > premixed > > > > > > from this guy. But depending on your answers I may brave it and try > > > > to make > > > > > > my own. > > > > > > > > > > > > Let me know your thoughts on both. > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > > Ben > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > * " Throughout much of the world, most people are busy being boring. " * > > > > > -*Tom Donohue* > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------------ > > > > > > > >All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT > > > >group > > > > > > <<<IodineOT/>http://health.\ /group/IodineOT/>IodineOT/>http://health.gr\ oups./group/IodineOT/ > > > > > > > > > > > >The NEW MEMBER DOCUMENT (#1 on the list) > > > ><<<iodine/files/01%20NEW%20MEMBE > RS%>iodine/files/01%20NEW%20MEMBERS% > > > 20->iodine/files/01%20NEW%20MEMBERS%20- > > > > > > %20READ%20FIRST/><<iodine/files/01%20NEW%20\ MEMBERS%20-%20READ%20FIRST/>iodine/files/01\ %20NEW%20MEMBERS%20-%20READ%20FIRST/>iodine\ /files/01%20NEW%20MEMBERS%20-%20READ%20FIRST/ > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2011 Report Share Posted June 23, 2011 I am really confused now. Two days ago I switched from Iodoral to Lugol's 2%. I was at 37.5 mg so I thought I needed to take 15 drops of Lugol's. So I guess I was taking over 100 mg for those 2 days? I had been feeling different and couldn't figure out why. Now I think I know. I think I should be only taking about 4 drops? > > > > > > > > > > So I am looking at finding a cheaper route for my iodine supplementation. Allot of people have said full orchestra on ebay and make my own. Right now im on 50 mg iodoral from I herb but its pricy and if I want to up my intake to 200 mg per day I need to find a cheaper route. > > > > > > > > > > I noticed you can buy the lugols drops, 7-percent 1-ounce is about 8 dollars. Does anyone know how many drops are needed from a 7% solution to make up 200mg per day? Does anyone know how many drops are in a 1-fl ounce container? I am trying to work out how much I need per month. > > > > > > > > > > The other option is to buy the elemental iodine crystals and the potassium iodine crystals and make my own. No clue on how to mix, how much crystals to buy of each product, and how to make it myself. How would I make a 7% solution? If someone could guide me on this I would appreciate it. > > > > > > > > > > If it's not much of a saving to make my own I may just buy the premixed from this guy. But depending on your answers I may brave it and try to make my own. > > > > > > > > > > Let me know your thoughts on both. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > > Ben > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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