Guest guest Posted May 24, 2011 Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 Hello Everyone,I am not sure which way to proceed. I am up to 50 mg Iodoral daily and taking all the supporting nutrients. My problem is I am still hypothyroid. My labs came back and my RT3 was very high. I am on my second container of TLC and I have been gluten free for a month now, but I am gaining weight fast because of the RT3. When I first started the Iodoral and salt, I had edema but that has not been a problem for several months. With the TLC daily and a liver flush, I hope to have cleansed my liver. Any more thoughts? I realize there is difference of opinions with the RT3 protocal. How were you able to achieve the lowering of the RT3?Thanks, Holly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2011 Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 It can take up to a year or more. With gluten free give it about 6 months. These things take time. Look how many years it took for your body to get to this state so it will take time for your body to heal.Be patient....... From: Holly Chabon <hrchabon@...>iodine Sent: Tue, May 24, 2011 6:26:40 AMSubject: Iodine and RT3 Hello Everyone,I am not sure which way to proceed. I am up to 50 mg Iodoral daily and taking all the supporting nutrients. My problem is I am still hypothyroid. My labs came back and my RT3 was very high. I am on my second container of TLC and I have been gluten free for a month now, but I am gaining weight fast because of the RT3. When I first started the Iodoral and salt, I had edema but that has not been a problem for several months. With the TLC daily and a liver flush, I hope to have cleansed my liver. Any more thoughts? I realize there is difference of opinions with the RT3 protocal. How were you able to achieve the lowering of the RT3?Thanks, Holly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2011 Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 So, I am on the right track and should not discontinue Iodoral?From: DeNormandie <blessedark2010@...>Subject: Re: Iodine and RT3iodine Date: Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 7:41 AM It can take up to a year or more. With gluten free give it about 6 months. These things take time. Look how many years it took for your body to get to this state so it will take time for your body to heal.Be patient....... From: Holly Chabon <hrchabon@...>iodine Sent: Tue, May 24, 2011 6:26:40 AMSubject: Iodine and RT3 Hello Everyone,I am not sure which way to proceed. I am up to 50 mg Iodoral daily and taking all the supporting nutrients. My problem is I am still hypothyroid. My labs came back and my RT3 was very high. I am on my second container of TLC and I have been gluten free for a month now, but I am gaining weight fast because of the RT3. When I first started the Iodoral and salt, I had edema but that has not been a problem for several months. With the TLC daily and a liver flush, I hope to have cleansed my liver. Any more thoughts? I realize there is difference of opinions with the RT3 protocal. How were you able to achieve the lowering of the RT3?Thanks, Holly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2011 Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 I did not mention I am on 2 grains of compounded natural thyroid and natural progesterone. Is the high RT3 an indication that it is time to lower the thyroid?From: Donna Iler <Donna@...>Subject: RE: Iodine and RT3"iodine " <iodine >Date: Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 7:50 AM Holly,While the iodine will help your body run well, there is no guarantee that you will heal your hypothyroidism with it alone. It depends on how long you have been hypo, and how damaged your thyroid is. You may need thyroid meds also. Dr. Brownstein observes that there is a 3 way split:About 1/3 of his patients no longer need thyroid meds.About 1/3 of his patients can lower their thyroid meds.About 1/3 of his patients still need the same thyroid meds. As for the reverse T3, you might need to do repeated flushes. Many people find that one flush clears out some, but there can be such a buildup that it takes multiple to completely clear the liver out. You don’t say how long you have been on the iodine protocol. Healing takes time, a rough estimate is 1 month for every year you have been sick. I have been on the protocol for about 3 years now, and am still gradually feeling better. I am still raising my amount of thyroid medication as I realize that I probably never had an adequate dose, and am feeling better on the higher levels. But I see how the iodine is feeding my body well, and would never consider it bad that I am still hypothyroid. My family is much healthier all around, we rarely get sick with colds, flu, etc., I know we are protecting ourselves from cancers, it is just a great thing, even when you don’t always see results. Donna in IL Hello Everyone,I am not sure which way to proceed. I am up to 50 mg Iodoral daily and taking all the supporting nutrients. My problem is I am still hypothyroid. My labs came back and my RT3 was very high. I am on my second container of TLC and I have been gluten free for a month now, but I am gaining weight fast because of the RT3. When I first started the Iodoral and salt, I had edema but that has not been a problem for several months. With the TLC daily and a liver flush, I hope to have cleansed my liver. Any more thoughts? I realize there is difference of opinions with the RT3 protocal. How were you able to achieve the lowering of the RT3?Thanks, Holly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2011 Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 Stress / High cortisol and diet also have an impact on RT3 levels. Buist, ND Iodine and RT3 Hello Everyone,I am not sure which way to proceed. I am up to 50 mg Iodoral daily and taking all the supporting nutrients. My problem is I am still hypothyroid. My labs came back and my RT3 was very high. I am on my second container of TLC and I have been gluten free for a month now, but I am gaining weight fast because of the RT3. When I first started the Iodoral and salt, I had edema but that has not been a problem for several months. With the TLC daily and a liver flush, I hope to have cleansed my liver. Any more thoughts? I realize there is difference of opinions with the RT3 protocal. How were you able to achieve the lowering of the RT3?Thanks, Holly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2011 Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 Would celiac disease impair the liver, which would cause problems with the conversion?From: ladybugsandbees <ladybugsandbees@...>Subject: Re: Iodine and RT3iodine Date: Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 8:05 AM Stress / High cortisol and diet also have an impact on RT3 levels. Buist, ND Iodine and RT3 Hello Everyone,I am not sure which way to proceed. I am up to 50 mg Iodoral daily and taking all the supporting nutrients. My problem is I am still hypothyroid. My labs came back and my RT3 was very high. I am on my second container of TLC and I have been gluten free for a month now, but I am gaining weight fast because of the RT3. When I first started the Iodoral and salt, I had edema but that has not been a problem for several months. With the TLC daily and a liver flush, I hope to have cleansed my liver. Any more thoughts? I realize there is difference of opinions with the RT3 protocal. How were you able to achieve the lowering of the RT3?Thanks, Holly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2011 Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 There may be more than one way of getting rid of RT3 but it you are taking a thyroid drug which contains T4 you are feeding the problem. So may be a way to stop getting worse is to use T3 only. This will starve the body of T4 that you can change into RT3. You don't have to do T3 therapy to achieve this. You just have to take enough T3 to block the production of TSH which in turn prompts the thyroid to produce T4. This means that none of the iodine you take will be used by the thyroid for T4 production. After that to get rid of your RT3 you can use T3 therapy or a liver cleanse product and clean up of your life style, your choice. Stopping what is going on getting worse and then clearing RT3 are two separate issues. Using T3 also requires some investigation. If you are interested, read the Stop The Thyroid Madness site and find out about iron levels and hydrocortisone. Many people in the RT3 and Adrenals group are anti-iodine. I did T3 therapy and used iodine for most of it (I stopped at the end to hurry things up a bit). While I was doing T3 therapy my TSH and T4 went very low and probably did not interfere with what I was doing with T3. I have also heard that there are other people in the RT3 group who used iodine all the time whilst doing T3 therapy. My personal opinion is that taking 50 mg of iodine might have meant that clearing RT3 took a bit longer, but I got there in the end. So according to either scenario, you can take iodine and get rid of RT3. You just have to find out what works for you. Since I have cleared my RT3 I have taken a leaf out of Steph's book and gone gluten free and my Hashi anti-bodies have dropped, one of them to under range for the first time since 2005. I shall shortly be doing a liver and gall bladder cleanse. MacGilchrist From: Holly Chabon <hrchabon@...>iodine Sent: Tue, 24 May, 2011 13:26:40Subject: Iodine and RT3 Hello Everyone,I am not sure which way to proceed. I am up to 50 mg Iodoral daily and taking all the supporting nutrients. My problem is I am still hypothyroid. My labs came back and my RT3 was very high. I am on my second container of TLC and I have been gluten free for a month now, but I am gaining weight fast because of the RT3. When I first started the Iodoral and salt, I had edema but that has not been a problem for several months. With the TLC daily and a liver flush, I hope to have cleansed my liver. Any more thoughts? I realize there is difference of opinions with the RT3 protocal. How were you able to achieve the lowering of the RT3?Thanks, Holly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2011 Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 Thank you for all your help to everyone. I have all my family taking at least 12.5mg Iodoral with supporting nutrients. I would not been able to accomplish this without words of wisdom from your support team. Holly From: ladybugsandbees <ladybugsandbees@...>Subject: Re: Iodine and RT3iodine Date: Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 8:05 AM Stress / High cortisol and diet also have an impact on RT3 levels. Buist, ND Iodine and RT3 Hello Everyone,I am not sure which way to proceed. I am up to 50 mg Iodoral daily and taking all the supporting nutrients. My problem is I am still hypothyroid. My labs came back and my RT3 was very high. I am on my second container of TLC and I have been gluten free for a month now, but I am gaining weight fast because of the RT3. When I first started the Iodoral and salt, I had edema but that has not been a problem for several months. With the TLC daily and a liver flush, I hope to have cleansed my liver. Any more thoughts? I realize there is difference of opinions with the RT3 protocal. How were you able to achieve the lowering of the RT3?Thanks, Holly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2011 Report Share Posted May 24, 2011  Yes - anything under the bottom of the range which is .3 is considered suppressed. Buist, ND Iodine and RT3 Hello Everyone,I am not sure which way to proceed. I am up to 50 mg Iodoral daily and taking all the supporting nutrients. My problem is I am still hypothyroid. My labs came back and my RT3 was very high. I am on my second container of TLC and I have been gluten free for a month now, but I am gaining weight fast because of the RT3. When I first started the Iodoral and salt, I had edema but that has not been a problem for several months. With the TLC daily and a liver flush, I hope to have cleansed my liver. Any more thoughts? I realize there is difference of opinions with the RT3 protocal. How were you able to achieve the lowering of the RT3?Thanks, Holly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2011 Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 I wouldn't. You'll take Iodoral all your life. If you discontinue you'll be starving your body of iodine again. It is a supplement say like vitamin D. Something you'll take the rest of your life. From: Holly Chabon <hrchabon@...>iodine Sent: Tue, May 24, 2011 6:44:49 AMSubject: Re: Iodine and RT3 So, I am on the right track and should not discontinue Iodoral?From: DeNormandie <blessedark2010@...>Subject: Re: Iodine and RT3iodine Date: Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 7:41 AM It can take up to a year or more. With gluten free give it about 6 months. These things take time. Look how many years it took for your body to get to this state so it will take time for your body to heal.Be patient....... From: Holly Chabon <hrchabon@...>iodine Sent: Tue, May 24, 2011 6:26:40 AMSubject: Iodine and RT3 Hello Everyone,I am not sure which way to proceed. I am up to 50 mg Iodoral daily and taking all the supporting nutrients. My problem is I am still hypothyroid. My labs came back and my RT3 was very high. I am on my second container of TLC and I have been gluten free for a month now, but I am gaining weight fast because of the RT3. When I first started the Iodoral and salt, I had edema but that has not been a problem for several months. With the TLC daily and a liver flush, I hope to have cleansed my liver. Any more thoughts? I realize there is difference of opinions with the RT3 protocal. How were you able to achieve the lowering of the RT3?Thanks, Holly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2011 Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 I've been taking iodine since December and T3 since the end of March. I didn't bother testing RT3 as I'm pretty sure I probably have it and it seems to me that the treatment is the same anyway. Besides, testing RT3 in Canada is a pain. I am also quite sure I've got liver 'issues'. I still feel better with the iodine than without it and my labs at this point do not seem altered by it too much. I don't know if I have Hashi's antibodies or not. My doc is very cooperative. I know that eventually he will want me on a T3/T4 blend. I figure I'll hold out as long as possible (at least the 'magic' 12 weeks during which RT3 will reduce under T3 therapy) and ask for Erfa. Then we will see what happens. Maybe by then doc will be more relaxed with me on T3 only. Or maybe by then I'll be tired of the multiple daily dosings. Anyway, we iodine/T3 takers do exist and many of us are doing pretty well. Jaye > > There may be more than one way of getting rid of RT3 but it you are taking a > thyroid drug which contains T4 you are feeding the problem. So may be a way to > stop getting worse is to use T3 only. This will starve the body of T4 that you > can change into RT3. You don't have to do T3 therapy to achieve this. You just > have to take enough T3 to block the production of TSH which in turn prompts the > thyroid to produce T4. This means that none of the iodine you take will be used > by the thyroid for T4 production. > > After that to get rid of your RT3 you can use T3 therapy or a liver cleanse > product and clean up of your life style, your choice. > > Stopping what is going on getting worse and then clearing RT3 are two separate > issues. > > Using T3 also requires some investigation. If you are interested, read the Stop > The Thyroid Madness site and find out about iron levels and hydrocortisone. > > Many people in the RT3 and Adrenals group are anti-iodine. I did T3 therapy and > used iodine for most of it (I stopped at the end to hurry things up a bit). > While I was doing T3 therapy my TSH and T4 went very low and probably did not > interfere with what I was doing with T3. I have also heard that there are other > people in the RT3 group who used iodine all the time whilst doing T3 therapy. > My personal opinion is that taking 50 mg of iodine might have meant that > clearing RT3 took a bit longer, but I got there in the end. > > So according to either scenario, you can take iodine and get rid of RT3. You > just have to find out what works for you. > > Since I have cleared my RT3 I have taken a leaf out of Steph's book and gone > gluten free and my Hashi anti-bodies have dropped, one of them to under range > for the first time since 2005. I shall shortly be doing a liver and gall > bladder cleanse. > > MacGilchrist > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Holly Chabon <hrchabon@...> > iodine > Sent: Tue, 24 May, 2011 13:26:40 > Subject: Iodine and RT3 > >  > Hello Everyone, > > I am not sure which way to proceed. I am up to 50 mg Iodoral daily and taking > all the supporting nutrients. My problem is I am still hypothyroid. My labs > came back and my RT3 was very high. I am on my second container of TLC and I > have been gluten free for a month now, but I am gaining weight fast because of > the RT3. When I first started the Iodoral and salt, I had edema but that has > not been a problem for several months. With the TLC daily and a liver flush, I > hope to have cleansed my liver. Any more thoughts? I realize there is > difference of opinions with the RT3 protocal. How were you able to achieve the > lowering of the RT3? > Thanks, Holly > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2011 Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 Anyone interested in rT3 might find this interesting: http://tiredthyroid.com/rt3.html Barb > > From: DeNormandie <blessedark2010@...> > Subject: Re: Iodine and RT3 > iodine > Date: Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 7:41 AM > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > It can take up to a year or more. With gluten free give it about 6 months. These things take time. Look how many years it took for your body to get to this state so it will take time for your body to heal. > Be patient....... >  > > From: Holly Chabon <hrchabon@...> > iodine > Sent: Tue, May 24, 2011 6:26:40 > AM > Subject: Iodine and RT3 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > Hello Everyone, > > I am not sure which way to proceed. I am up to 50 mg Iodoral daily and taking all the supporting nutrients. My problem is I am still hypothyroid. My labs came back and my RT3 was very high. I am on my second container of TLC and I have been gluten free for a month now, but I am gaining weight fast because of the RT3. When I first started the Iodoral and salt, I had edema but that has not been a problem for several months. With the TLC daily and a liver flush, I hope to have cleansed my liver. Any more thoughts? I realize there is difference of opinions with the RT3 protocal. How were you able to achieve the lowering of the RT3? > Thanks, Holly > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2011 Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 I agree liver cleanse is important. i have been doing coffee enemas since the flushes seem to require a lot more planning. I am doing T3 and HC but do not like that you need to take labs all the time (iron and adrenals) to know what is going on. I have not been able to get far and certainly not cleared rt3 in 12 weeks as thet sat. I'm at week 16 and at 60mcg of T3 and 30mg of HC but do not feel that I can tolerate more T3. iron is up serum 29(range 9-34) so it should be good. Adrenals on the other hand are probably the problem. I'm thinking of going back to Erfa and continue enemas and other liver supports, milk thistle, Liver Life etc and hope to feel better slowly that way. I hate to be on HC and do not want to raise it any more. I take 50mg of Iodoral now and maybe go higher, started iodine less than two months ago. so far feeling no great benefits, I was hoping it is supporting adrenals to get rid of HC eventually. but also I recognise that we need iodine, so I will stay on that forever. But I feel really weak and shaky often, I never felt this bad even on T4... so I understand this is always a journey and it is great to have these forums to help guide you along. Susa > > There may be more than one way of getting rid of RT3 but it you are taking a > thyroid drug which contains T4 you are feeding the problem. So may be a way to > stop getting worse is to use T3 only. This will starve the body of T4 that you > can change into RT3. You don't have to do T3 therapy to achieve this. You just > have to take enough T3 to block the production of TSH which in turn prompts the > thyroid to produce T4. This means that none of the iodine you take will be used > by the thyroid for T4 production. > > After that to get rid of your RT3 you can use T3 therapy or a liver cleanse > product and clean up of your life style, your choice. > > Stopping what is going on getting worse and then clearing RT3 are two separate > issues. > > Using T3 also requires some investigation. If you are interested, read the Stop > The Thyroid Madness site and find out about iron levels and hydrocortisone. > > Many people in the RT3 and Adrenals group are anti-iodine. I did T3 therapy and > used iodine for most of it (I stopped at the end to hurry things up a bit). > While I was doing T3 therapy my TSH and T4 went very low and probably did not > interfere with what I was doing with T3. I have also heard that there are other > people in the RT3 group who used iodine all the time whilst doing T3 therapy. > My personal opinion is that taking 50 mg of iodine might have meant that > clearing RT3 took a bit longer, but I got there in the end. > > So according to either scenario, you can take iodine and get rid of RT3. You > just have to find out what works for you. > > Since I have cleared my RT3 I have taken a leaf out of Steph's book and gone > gluten free and my Hashi anti-bodies have dropped, one of them to under range > for the first time since 2005. I shall shortly be doing a liver and gall > bladder cleanse. > > MacGilchrist > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Holly Chabon <hrchabon@...> > iodine > Sent: Tue, 24 May, 2011 13:26:40 > Subject: Iodine and RT3 > >  > Hello Everyone, > > I am not sure which way to proceed. I am up to 50 mg Iodoral daily and taking > all the supporting nutrients. My problem is I am still hypothyroid. My labs > came back and my RT3 was very high. I am on my second container of TLC and I > have been gluten free for a month now, but I am gaining weight fast because of > the RT3. When I first started the Iodoral and salt, I had edema but that has > not been a problem for several months. With the TLC daily and a liver flush, I > hope to have cleansed my liver. Any more thoughts? I realize there is > difference of opinions with the RT3 protocal. How were you able to achieve the > lowering of the RT3? > Thanks, Holly > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2011 Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 Have you had any thyroid complete panels?? Some people need thyroid hormone even if taking iodine... On 5/24/2011 4:26 AM, Holly Chabon wrote: Hello Everyone, I am not sure which way to proceed. I am up to 50 mg Iodoral daily and taking all the supporting nutrients. My problem is I am still hypothyroid. My labs came back and my RT3 was very high. I am on my second container of TLC and I have been gluten free for a month now, but I am gaining weight fast because of the RT3. When I first started the Iodoral and salt, I had edema but that has not been a problem for several months. With the TLC daily and a liver flush, I hope to have cleansed my liver. Any more thoughts? I realize there is difference of opinions with the RT3 protocal. How were you able to achieve the lowering of the RT3? Thanks, Holly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2011 Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 thank you this is great! this was the last tick in the box now I know I'm going back to Erfa starting tomorrow Susa > > > > From: DeNormandie <blessedark2010@> > > Subject: Re: Iodine and RT3 > > iodine > > Date: Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 7:41 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It can take up to a year or more. With gluten free give it about 6 months. These things take time. Look how many years it took for your body to get to this state so it will take time for your body to heal. > > Be patient....... > >  > > > > From: Holly Chabon <hrchabon@> > > iodine > > Sent: Tue, May 24, 2011 6:26:40 > > AM > > Subject: Iodine and RT3 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Everyone, > > > > I am not sure which way to proceed. I am up to 50 mg Iodoral daily and taking all the supporting nutrients. My problem is I am still hypothyroid. My labs came back and my RT3 was very high. I am on my second container of TLC and I have been gluten free for a month now, but I am gaining weight fast because of the RT3. When I first started the Iodoral and salt, I had edema but that has not been a problem for several months. With the TLC daily and a liver flush, I hope to have cleansed my liver. Any more thoughts? I realize there is difference of opinions with the RT3 protocal. How were you able to achieve the lowering of the RT3? > > Thanks, Holly > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2011 Report Share Posted May 24, 2011 Thank you Susa. I learned so much today. I needed to see this in writing. So many prayers were answered today. Thanks again ladies. HollyFrom: Susa <nata70fi@...>Subject: Re: Iodine and RT3iodine Date: Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 12:35 PM thank you this is great! this was the last tick in the box now I know I'm going back to Erfa starting tomorrow Susa > > > > From: DeNormandie <blessedark2010@> > > Subject: Re: Iodine and RT3 > > iodine > > Date: Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 7:41 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It can take up to a year or more. With gluten free give it about 6 months. These things take time. Look how many years it took for your body to get to this state so it will take time for your body to heal. > > Be patient....... > >  > > > > From: Holly Chabon <hrchabon@> > > iodine > > Sent: Tue, May 24, 2011 6:26:40 > > AM > > Subject: Iodine and RT3 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Everyone, > > > > I am not sure which way to proceed. I am up to 50 mg Iodoral daily and taking all the supporting nutrients. My problem is I am still hypothyroid. My labs came back and my RT3 was very high. I am on my second container of TLC and I have been gluten free for a month now, but I am gaining weight fast because of the RT3. When I first started the Iodoral and salt, I had edema but that has not been a problem for several months. With the TLC daily and a liver flush, I hope to have cleansed my liver. Any more thoughts? I realize there is difference of opinions with the RT3 protocal. How were you able to achieve the lowering of the RT3? > > Thanks, Holly > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 Yes, the idea that you can heal your thyroid without taking iodine is a laugh. I've lost 30+ pounds over the last 16 months since starting iodine. I feel so much better for the several years I've been taking NatureThroid, so much improved over T4 only. But it wasn't until the iodine that my thyroid was finally treated adequately and my metabolism kicked back in. -- At 10:56 PM 5/29/2011, you wrote: >I quit taking Armour and started on T3 only and tried it for over a >year. I'm not saying not to try T3 only but if you can't take it you'll >know in a short time. I had a high heart rate and felt very nervous all >the time but if I didn't take enough I couldn't get out of bed. I checked >for all the things they tell you to check for when you are not processing >T3, my ferritin, sodium and everything else was fine. I think I was >running on adrenaline most of the time. I believe being on T3 only caused >me to become insulin resistant and gave me other issues like weight gain >and high cortisol. Once I went on Nature-throid I could feel the >difference almost instantly. I now have a good heart rate and feel much >better. T3 was not a good fit for me. > >I stopped eating gluten 6 months ago when I went on Nature-Throid and quit >all foods that are high in carbs and stick to a strict diet now mainly of >proteins and veggies. I had been eating this way for the last 25 years >but once my thyroid started having issues I gained weight. I have dropped >25 pounds in the last 4 months and continue to lose weight. I know it was >not the case when I was on T3 only. Also my ALT and cortisol was going up >each time I had blood work done. Now both are fine. > >I tried Iodine two year ago but when I joined the T3 group online I >stopped Iodine because they tell you not to take it. I'm sorry I did >because I think if I had continued to take it I wouldn't have had the >insulin resistance problems which I had being on T3. > >I know many people that take T3 only and are getting fantastic results so >I'm not saying not to try it but if you do try it make sure you read how >to start taking it beforehand. > >Another thing is that it does take longer for some on a gluten free diet >to see results. My husband saw results in a month but for me it was more >like three- four months. > >Louise ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ --A.J. Muste Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 Hi Barb Some of the 'problems' listed for T3 only therapy were cited because of single studies...always a red flag. We have no idea how the studies were conducted. Also, from my reading, T3 causing osteoporosis is not true, unless there are actual symptoms of hypERT going on as well. I chuckled when I read that T3 only can cause insomnia. Sheesh. A major symptom of hypOthyroidism is insomnia, and a great many people find they are finally sleeping when they're on T3. I would be one of those. I have no doubt that insomnia could be a result of hypeRT as well, but theoretically, any T3 containing, or precursing med could do that as well. I am not saying that T3 is entirely without possible problems, but any thyroid treatment needs monitoring. Those problems are not specific to T3, as near as I can make out. Jaye > > > > > > > > There may be more than one way of getting rid of RT3 but it you are taking a thyroid drug which contains T4 you are feeding the problem. So may be a way to stop getting worse is to use T3 only. This will starve the body of T4 that you can change into RT3. You don't have to do T3 therapy to achieve this. You just have to take enough T3 to block the production of TSH which in turn prompts the thyroid to produce T4. This means that none of the iodine you take will be used by the thyroid for T4 production. > > > > > > After that to get rid of your RT3 you can use T3 therapy or a liver cleanse product and clean up of your life style, your choice. > > > > > > Stopping what is going on getting worse and then clearing RT3 are two separate issues. > > > > > > Using T3 also requires some investigation. If you are interested, read the Stop The Thyroid Madness site and find out about iron levels and hydrocortisone. > > > > > > Many people in the RT3 and Adrenals group are anti-iodine. I did T3 therapy and used iodine for most of it (I stopped at the end to hurry things up a bit). While I was doing T3 therapy my TSH and T4 went very low and probably did not interfere with what I was doing with T3. I have also heard that there are other people in the RT3 group who used iodine all the time whilst doing T3 therapy. My personal opinion is that taking 50 mg of iodine might have meant that clearing RT3 took a bit longer, but I got there in the end. > > > > > > So according to either scenario, you can take iodine and get rid of RT3. You just have to find out what works for you. > > > > > > Since I have cleared my RT3 I have taken a leaf out of Steph's book and gone gluten free and my Hashi anti-bodies have dropped, one of them to under range for the first time since 2005. I shall shortly be doing a liver and gall bladder cleanse. > > > > > > MacGilchrist > > > > > > From: Holly Chabon <hrchabon@> > > > iodine > > > Sent: Tue, 24 May, 2011 13:26:40 > > > Subject: Iodine and RT3 > > > > > > > > > Hello Everyone, > > > > > > I am not sure which way to proceed. I am up to 50 mg Iodoral daily and taking all the supporting nutrients. My problem is I am still hypothyroid. My labs came back and my RT3 was very high. I am on my second container of TLC and I have been gluten free for a month now, but I am gaining weight fast because of the RT3. When I first started the Iodoral and salt, I had edema but that has not been a problem for several months. With the TLC daily and a liver flush, I hope to have cleansed my liver. Any more thoughts? I realize there is difference of opinions with the RT3 protocal. How were you able to achieve the lowering of the RT3? > > > Thanks, Holly > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2011 Report Share Posted May 30, 2011 I agree, there's a huge overlap of symptoms of hyper and hypo: insomnia, brain fog, hair loss, etc. But therein lies the danger--people don't know when they're on too much! Osteoporosis is another one: too little hormone and too much will both cause it. I guess the problem is for each individual to determine when are they on too much? Even heart rate can go high in hypo due to adrenaline compensating for hypo. I guess the main point is that what works for one doesn't always work for another. And as you said, any thyroid treatment should be monitored. Barb > > > > > > > > > > > There may be more than one way of getting rid of RT3 but it you are taking a thyroid drug which contains T4 you are feeding the problem. So may be a way to stop getting worse is to use T3 only. This will starve the body of T4 that you can change into RT3. You don't have to do T3 therapy to achieve this. You just have to take enough T3 to block the production of TSH which in turn prompts the thyroid to produce T4. This means that none of the iodine you take will be used by the thyroid for T4 production. > > > > > > > > After that to get rid of your RT3 you can use T3 therapy or a liver cleanse product and clean up of your life style, your choice. > > > > > > > > Stopping what is going on getting worse and then clearing RT3 are two separate issues. > > > > > > > > Using T3 also requires some investigation. If you are interested, read the Stop The Thyroid Madness site and find out about iron levels and hydrocortisone. > > > > > > > > Many people in the RT3 and Adrenals group are anti-iodine. I did T3 therapy and used iodine for most of it (I stopped at the end to hurry things up a bit). While I was doing T3 therapy my TSH and T4 went very low and probably did not interfere with what I was doing with T3. I have also heard that there are other people in the RT3 group who used iodine all the time whilst doing T3 therapy. My personal opinion is that taking 50 mg of iodine might have meant that clearing RT3 took a bit longer, but I got there in the end. > > > > > > > > So according to either scenario, you can take iodine and get rid of RT3. You just have to find out what works for you. > > > > > > > > Since I have cleared my RT3 I have taken a leaf out of Steph's book and gone gluten free and my Hashi anti-bodies have dropped, one of them to under range for the first time since 2005. I shall shortly be doing a liver and gall bladder cleanse. > > > > > > > > MacGilchrist > > > > > > > > From: Holly Chabon <hrchabon@> > > > > iodine > > > > Sent: Tue, 24 May, 2011 13:26:40 > > > > Subject: Iodine and RT3 > > > > > > > > > > > > Hello Everyone, > > > > > > > > I am not sure which way to proceed. I am up to 50 mg Iodoral daily and taking all the supporting nutrients. My problem is I am still hypothyroid. My labs came back and my RT3 was very high. I am on my second container of TLC and I have been gluten free for a month now, but I am gaining weight fast because of the RT3. When I first started the Iodoral and salt, I had edema but that has not been a problem for several months. With the TLC daily and a liver flush, I hope to have cleansed my liver. Any more thoughts? I realize there is difference of opinions with the RT3 protocal. How were you able to achieve the lowering of the RT3? > > > > Thanks, Holly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2011 Report Share Posted June 14, 2011 WOW! THAT IS SO COOL, Vicoria, I am HYPO and I just started taking 150 Mcg sea kelp. I hope to get the same results as you. I am also on 75 mcg Levothyroxine. I've been reading a lot on it first, cause I'm feelin kinda apprehensive about taking the sea kelp. I think I am feelin an improvement but not sure. It is so neat to read your message, something like this is so educational to HYPOs. I've had the hardest time trying to lose 15 pounds. It's taken me 65 days just to lose 2 pounds. I'm happy for you. laurie Re: Iodine and RT3Yes, the idea that you can heal your thyroid without taking iodine is a laugh.I've lost 30+ pounds over the last 16 months since starting iodine. I feel so much better for the several years I've been taking NatureThroid, so much improved over T4 only. But it wasn't until the iodine that my thyroid was finally treated adequately and my metabolism kicked back in.--At 10:56 PM 5/29/2011, you wrote:>I quit taking Armour and started on T3 only and tried it for over a >year. I'm not saying not to try T3 only but if you can't take it you'll >know in a short time. I had a high heart rate and felt very nervous all >the time but if I didn't take enough I couldn't get out of bed. I checked >for all the things they tell you to check for when you are not processing >T3, my ferritin, sodium and everything else was fine. I think I was >running on adrenaline most of the time. I believe being on T3 only caused >me to become insulin resistant and gave me other issues like weight gain >and high cortisol. Once I went on Nature-throid I could feel the >difference almost instantly. I now have a good heart rate and feel much >better. T3 was not a good fit for me.>>I stopped eating gluten 6 months ago when I went on Nature-Throid and quit >all foods that are high in carbs and stick to a strict diet now mainly of >proteins and veggies. I had been eating this way for the last 25 years >but once my thyroid started having issues I gained weight. I have dropped >25 pounds in the last 4 months and continue to lose weight. I know it was >not the case when I was on T3 only. Also my ALT and cortisol was going up >each time I had blood work done. Now both are fine.>>I tried Iodine two year ago but when I joined the T3 group online I >stopped Iodine because they tell you not to take it. I'm sorry I did >because I think if I had continued to take it I wouldn't have had the >insulin resistance problems which I had being on T3.>>I know many people that take T3 only and are getting fantastic results so >I'm not saying not to try it but if you do try it make sure you read how >to start taking it beforehand.>>Another thing is that it does take longer for some on a gluten free diet >to see results. My husband saw results in a month but for me it was more >like three- four months.>>Louise~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ --A.J. Muste------------------------------------All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT group IodineOT/The NEW MEMBER DOCUMENT (#1 on the list) iodine/files/01%20NEW%20MEMBERS%20-%20READ%20FIRST/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2011 Report Share Posted June 14, 2011 , didn't you begin taking LDN just before or at the same time as iodine? Many people report similar energy boosting/weight loss effects from LDN so this seems an important thing to mention. LDN is powerful stuff in and of itself! > > > >I quit taking Armour and started on T3 only and tried it for over a > >year. I'm not saying not to try T3 only but if you can't take it you'll > >know in a short time. I had a high heart rate and felt very nervous all > >the time but if I didn't take enough I couldn't get out of bed. I checked > >for all the things they tell you to check for when you are not processing > >T3, my ferritin, sodium and everything else was fine. I think I was > >running on adrenaline most of the time. I believe being on T3 only caused > >me to become insulin resistant and gave me other issues like weight gain > >and high cortisol. Once I went on Nature-throid I could feel the > >difference almost instantly. I now have a good heart rate and feel much > >better. T3 was not a good fit for me. > > > >I stopped eating gluten 6 months ago when I went on Nature-Throid and quit > >all foods that are high in carbs and stick to a strict diet now mainly of > >proteins and veggies. I had been eating this way for the last 25 years > >but once my thyroid started having issues I gained weight. I have dropped > >25 pounds in the last 4 months and continue to lose weight. I know it was > >not the case when I was on T3 only. Also my ALT and cortisol was going up > >each time I had blood work done. Now both are fine. > > > >I tried Iodine two year ago but when I joined the T3 group online I > >stopped Iodine because they tell you not to take it. I'm sorry I did > >because I think if I had continued to take it I wouldn't have had the > >insulin resistance problems which I had being on T3. > > > >I know many people that take T3 only and are getting fantastic results so > >I'm not saying not to try it but if you do try it make sure you read how > >to start taking it beforehand. > > > >Another thing is that it does take longer for some on a gluten free diet > >to see results. My husband saw results in a month but for me it was more > >like three- four months. > > > >Louise > > > ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~ > --A.J. Muste > > > > ------------------------------------ > > All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT group IodineOT/ > > > The NEW MEMBER DOCUMENT (#1 on the list) iodine/files/01%20NEW%20MEMBERS%20-%20READ%\ 20FIRST/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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