Re: Why does my throat hurt?

May 19, 2011

Yes. To reiterate, there is NO SUCH THING as " too much iodine " because the

body washes out anything it can't use. However, there is no way one can

detox once and for all when we live in a world in which we all now have a

toxic burden in our bodies and there are more and more and more toxic

chemicals dumped into our environment every day.

So if someone is taking 100mg of iodine and then stops for awhile or lowers

it to 20mg or something, yes once you get up to 100mg again you're going to

go through detox again. And in the meantime you may have been exposed to a

particular set of chemicals and you have a new detox need entirely, that

will have a different affect. Plus, there are layers and layers of

chemicals stored in our bodies, and as we give it the iodine that it needs

to deport those chemicals away from us, there will be new layers and

experiences of detox all along the way. Toxic chemicals are stored in the

fat layers of the body (even in skinny people). Those stored chemicals

only come back out slowly.

In addition, at any point one's liver/gallbladder can need some extra help

with detox because of the overall burden that is placed on our bodies,

simply by existing in today's world.

So the idea that a person's body can't tolerate more than 20mg of iodine

per day is simply not a correct description of the truth. The truth is,

for whatever reasons, detox is required and those detox symptoms are the

ones that a person finds intolerable. So it's not the body, it's the

mind's ability to tolerate the body's detox process.

I'm not saying the symptoms are all in the mind. I'm saying, our

perception of pain and discomfort is what governs how far and how fast we

can detox. So everything we do in the iodine protocol is to find a balance

between rapid detox and tolerable detox, and the companion nutrients assist

the body is detoxing with fewer symptoms.

But there are always new chemicals that the body has to process out. Every

day. It's entirely possible to be taking 100mg of iodine a day without

detox symptoms, if the body's detox pathways are functioning well. It

always comes down to, how are the body's detox pathways

functioning? Severe symptoms? Those are detox symptoms and the severity

is a measure of how well the detox pathways are functioning.

Saying one can " overdose " on iodine is buying into the medical/scientific

fraud that demonized iodine and has resulted in the epidemics of thyroid

disease and cancer, among other ills. It really matters how we

conceptualize these matters.

Painful symptoms are detox, an indication that one's body needs iodine but

is detoxing more quickly than the detox pathways can accommodate. That's

when symptoms occur.

hope this helps.

--

moderator, student since 1976 of alternative health practices

>Again, any iodine the body doesn't need gets washed out in our urine. So

>if you get uncomfortable symptoms, that means you are needing help with

>detoxing the halides. Salt loading is the best for helping them move out

>less painfully from the body. When you cut down the iodine and symptoms

>cease, it does not mean you were taking too much iodine, it means your

>body was not able to handle the detoxing, and needed help, such as salt

>loading . I hope I am making this clear. Best, Kathleen

> Re: Why does my throat hurt?

>

>Yes, I understand about overdose and that you can't do that unless you

>drink a gallon of it. But some of us do reach a point where it's too much

>iodine and our bodies don't like it. I am glad you brought up that you

>can't OD on it unless you drink an ocean of it, since most folks don't

>know that. Wish the folks who set the MDR of it knew that.

>Ariel

>

>On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 1:52 PM, jaxi

><<mailto:jaxi.schulz@...>jaxi.schulz@...> wrote:

>

>Umm ... terminology correction ... it is not an " overdose " ... it may be

>an amount that causes you to have greater bromide detox symptoms than you

>find tolerable ... but that is not the same as an overdose. Technically

>you cannot overdose on iodine ... you simply excrete any excess in your

>urine.

>

>Sore throat - and several other thyroid/throat related symptoms are

>consistent with bromide detox. Please consider salt loading. Read the

>new member documents if you haven't yet. Read them again if it has been

>awhile. Really great info in there.

>

>The breast cancer web site has a nice listing of the bromide detox

>symptoms. I don't want to go hunting for it from work though. Maybe

>someone else can post it.

>

>Jaxi

>

>On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 12:41 PM, Ariel Monserrat

><<mailto:wolvenwood@...>wolvenwood@...> wrote:

>

>I do know that a sore throat is one of the symptoms of too much iodine.

>After I had been on it awhile, I began to get a sore throat and found out

>it was overdose. The most I can tolerate now is 20 mg, I figure I have

>enough if my body tells me it's an overdose.

>That may be what's happening for you.

>Ariel

>

>On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 1:14 PM, rare_earth_mom

><<mailto:kastringer@...>kastringer@...> wrote:

>

>I've been on iodoral for a month, up to 37.5 mg/day. But ever since I have

>started I get sharp pains in my thryoid area, and it moves up my neck.

>Today it feels like a strep throat is starting.

>

>Is this normal?

>

>--

> " Throughout much of the world, most people are busy being boring. "

>-Tom Donohue

>

>--

> " Throughout much of the world, most people are busy being boring. "

>-Tom Donohue

>

>--

> " Throughout much of the world, most people are busy being boring. "

>-Tom Donohue

>

>--

> " Throughout much of the world, most people are busy being boring. "

>-Tom Donohue

>

~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

--A.J. Muste

May 19, 2011

, while the receptors can get blocked again with halides in the system,

doesn't a daily higher dose of iodine (and protocol) keep the receptors open and

healthy consistently?

Thanks,

Marcy

>

> I've been on iodoral for a month, up to 37.5 mg/day. But ever

since I have started I get sharp pains in my thryoid area, and it moves up my

neck. Today it feels like a strep throat is starting.

>

> Is this normal?

>

> --

> " Throughout much of the world, most people are busy being boring. "

> -Tom Donohue

>

> --

> " Throughout much of the world, most people are busy being boring. "

> -Tom Donohue

>

> --

> " Throughout much of the world, most people are busy being boring. "

> -Tom Donohue

>

> --

> " Throughout much of the world, most people are busy being boring. "

> -Tom Donohue

>

May 19, 2011

Personally, I don't like the word symptoms in reference to de-toxing, i prefer

'side-effects', actually short for 'side effects of large scale detoxing'.A

result of too much toxins being released, at too rapid a pace for the detox

pathways to handle.Or you could call it 'Detox pathway overload'.When you've got

a 20+years or more accumulation of toxins built up, and you start using iodine,

its fairly easy to get into this kind of situation, cause you have so much to

work with. On the other hand, once you've detoxed this accumulated build up,

your daily accumulation is all your having to deal with, so should be easy to

keep` yourself cleared, on an ongoing basis, without experiencing 'side

effects'.Jim

> >>

> >> I've been on iodoral for a month, up to 37.5 mg/day. But ever since I have

> >> started I get sharp pains in my thryoid area, and it moves up my neck.

Today

> >> it feels like a strep throat is starting.

> >>

> >> Is this normal?

> >>

> >> --

> >> * " Throughout much of the world, most people are busy being boring. " *

> >> -*Tom Donohue*

> >>

> >> --

> >> * " Throughout much of the world, most people are busy being boring. " *

> >> -*Tom Donohue*

> >>

> >> --

> >> * " Throughout much of the world, most people are busy being boring. " *

> >> -*Tom Donohue*

> >>

> >

> > --

> > * " Throughout much of the world, most people are busy being boring. " *

> > -*Tom Donohue*

> >

>

May 20, 2011

and I would add, try 50mg Iodoral.

Gracia

On 5/19/2011 1:53 PM, Kathleen Blake wrote:

Are you taking the companion nutrients ( vitamin C,

selenium, magnesium, unrefined Celtic Sea Salt) , these

are very important to help the body get rid of toxic

halides ( chlorine, fluoride,bromide) that the iodine

displaces. Make sure you are also drinking plenty of

clean water.Kathleen

Why does my throat hurt?

I've been on iodoral for a month, up to 37.5

mg/day. But ever since I have started I get sharp

pains in my thryoid area, and it moves up my neck.

Today it feels like a strep throat is starting.

Is this normal?

May 20, 2011

I take 100mg Iodoral per day--don't feel well on less. I think I

am experiencing detox symptoms, and I have been on 100mg for several

years.

Gracia

On 5/19/2011 2:48 PM, Ariel Monserrat wrote:

OK, I'm confused and I do want to understand this. I do

understand the part that we're always detoxing. But as far

as the

symptoms go, are you saying that we're never done with the

symptoms? How do we know if it's symptoms and not too much

iodine?

Thank you,

Ariel

On Thu, May 19, 2011 at 2:40 PM,

Donna Iler <Donna@...>

wrote:

Those

symptoms you got were not overload, they

are detoxing. You don’t just detox once

and are done, you can continue for long

periods of time, or have periodic times of

it happening. I suggest you read the new

member documents again and especially the

section about detoxing. I keep it on my

computer and reread it about once a month,

there is always more to understand.

Donna in

IL

I've already detoxed, I've been

on iodine since last Oct.. I went

up to 130 mg for months, and

detoxed already so then lowered

it. i tried it at 130 mg again,

and got a sore throat, shortness

of breath and other symptoms of

iodine overload. No you can't

overdose, but you can have too

much in your system. At least

that's what I have found to be

true for myself.

Ariel

May 20, 2011

Thank you everyone.

I take everything, but haven't been proactive enough in the salt loading.

Did the salt when I was experiencing the acne, headaches, and tiny patches of

rash symptoms, I guess I have to do the salt all the time.

May 20, 2011

Detxing can take a really long time, years for some of us. It is particulary

difficult to get rid of toxins stored in the fat. The body is protecting itself

from the toxins. I've been taking iodine and detoxing for over 5 years and am

now finally making progress in losing weight. The liver can make remarkable

changes but it's not going to happen in just a few month's time. For those of

us with mercury issues it's a long haul.

Linn

> >

> >I've been on iodoral for a month, up to 37.5 mg/day. But ever since I have

> >started I get sharp pains in my thryoid area, and it moves up my neck.

> >Today it feels like a strep throat is starting.

> >

> >Is this normal?

> >

> >--

> > " Throughout much of the world, most people are busy being boring. "

> >-Tom Donohue

> >

> >--

> > " Throughout much of the world, most people are busy being boring. "

> >-Tom Donohue

> >

> >--

> > " Throughout much of the world, most people are busy being boring. "

> >-Tom Donohue

> >

> >--

> > " Throughout much of the world, most people are busy being boring. "

> >-Tom Donohue

> >

>

> ~~~ There is no way to peace; peace is the way ~~~~

> --A.J. Muste

>

May 21, 2011

Can someone explain why the throat would hurt as

a detox response?

Please and thank you,

Jeanne

May 21, 2011

Toxins can cause irritation and inflammation.

Linn

>

> Can someone explain why the throat would hurt as

> a detox response?

>

> Please and thank you,

>

> Jeanne

>

May 23, 2011

First, I do not dispute the possibility of 'sore throat'

being related to detox. It would be interesting to learn

the technical process that leads to it though.

I noticed this while researching:

Acute toxicity

Acute iodine poisoning is rare and usually occurs only with doses of many grams.

Symptoms of acute iodine poisoning include burning of the mouth, throat, and

stomach; fever; nausea; vomiting; diarrhea; a weak pulse; and coma (6).

http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/infocenter/minerals/iodine/

Jeanne

> >

> > Can someone explain why the throat would hurt as

> > a detox response?

> >

> > Please and thank you,

> >

> > Jeanne

> >

>

May 23, 2011

But if you look up bromide toxicity symptoms you will see sore throat, fever, nausea, diarrhea, heart issues, coma..... These sites do not acknowledge bromide toxicity.

Buist, ND

Owner Iodine Group

Re: Why does my throat hurt?

First, I do not dispute the possibility of 'sore throat'being related to detox. It would be interesting to learnthe technical process that leads to it though.I noticed this while researching:Acute toxicityAcute iodine poisoning is rare and usually occurs only with doses of many grams. Symptoms of acute iodine poisoning include burning of the mouth, throat, and stomach; fever; nausea; vomiting; diarrhea; a weak pulse; and coma (6).http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/infocenter/minerals/iodine/Jeanne--- In iodine , "Linn" <mwm1glm@...> wrote:>> Toxins can cause irritation and inflammation.> > Linn > > > >> > Can someone explain why the throat would hurt as> > a detox response?> > > > Please and thank you,> > > > Jeanne> >>

May 23, 2011

I think the 'burning' of the mouth, throat and stomach, from acute iodine O.D.

is literal; a 'burning' of the skin, from contact with large amounts of iodine.

It doesn't say 'Burning feeling'.I don't think what they are describing is a

'sore' throat.

On the other hand, bromide toxicity symptoms include 'sore' throat.I think

is right on the $, here. Jim

> > >

> > > Can someone explain why the throat would hurt as

> > > a detox response?

> > >

> > > Please and thank you,

> > >

> > > Jeanne

> > >

> >

>

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