Guest guest Posted May 18, 2011 Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 you will feel much better if you aren't ingesting anything with a sugar molecule; also one clove garlic a day is not NEARLY enough. The turning point for me was when I took 17,000 mg of garlic one day;; had some die-off for a few days but began to feel better. You might be able to eat fruit, but you should limit it to just a couple pieces of fruit per week. Stay away from white rice, white flour and other processed grains. Brown rice, some potatoes once in awhile, all the veggies, fish and meat you want. I ate one serving of unprocessed grains per day and the rest was veggies and some meat. ArielOn Tue, May 17, 2011 at 8:35 PM, <AltanS@...> wrote: I didn't know that Ariel, I will try the capsules. I have been using store bought garlic oil infused olive oil topically until recently, when I started ingesting a clove of fresh garlic daily. It hasn't helped very much, but I think I see why now. I found out I was gluten intolerant recently, so for the past few weeks, I have been on a gluten free diet, but it's very difficult. I didn't know about the sugar free part either, I will try that although giving up fruits and fruit juice will be hard. Thanks for your advice. Stan In a message dated 5/17/2011 11:53:01 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, wolvenwood@... writes: what kind of store-bought garlic oil? how much are you using? you have to take ALOT for any effect, I suggest 10 caps a day of 500 mg oil. You might want to start with 5 for the first 2 days and then go to 10 so you don't have any die-off effect. You probably bought some that only has 2 or 3 mg in each capsules - YOU NEED FAR MORE! Source Naturals has it in 500 mg caps that's what you need, anything lower in mg is a waste of time. You can't take too much it won't hurt anything but you'll need to ramp it up initially.Also, yes, the candida diet is extremely important and is key. NO SUGAR, or anything with sugar molecules in it such as fruit juice, milk etc. I couldn't even tolerate yogurt, it has lactose and I personally don't recommend it. MOST IMPORTANTLY, you need to find out waht is causing it and cure that!Ariel On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 7:18 AM, S. Altan <AltanS@...> wrote: I am using regular store bought garlic oil topically and consuming 1 clove fresh garlic daily but after 2 weeks, it has done nothing for the infection. I was wondering what your experience with it was if you had used it. From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of keppers79Sent: Monday, May 16, 2011 10:53 PM iodine Subject: Re: Iodine Yeast/Candida No, I consumed/used garlic but not garlic oil. For applying topically, did you still use that source natural? Thanks,KC> -- " Throughout much of the world, most people are busy being boring. " -Tom Donohue -- " Throughout much of the world, most people are busy being boring. " -Tom Donohue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2011 Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 Carol, I encourage you to try the iodine for twenty one days, I may be premature, but am on day five, and as Toni the Tiger would say, it taste great. I do believe if you have a serious yeast infection, iodine, and the medics have one medication given IV for five days running that will kill yeast/candida, everything else is just a bandaid which will introduce you to a terminal disease. david lubbock tx. On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 10:45 AM, Carol Palmer <carol_p@...> wrote: I am having a terrible time getting rid of fungal overgrowth. It just keeps coming back. Did Diflucan for a week. Came back. Haven't found garlic oil yet so am taking powdered garlic. Lots of it. At least I don't have to worry about vampires! Carol Re: Iodine Yeast/Candida Posted by: " Thurlby-fishkin " rightbrainsmart777@... rightbrainsmart777 Mon May 16, 2011 9:00 pm (PDT) I just came upon this article...seems like an interesting article on yeast infections...studies etc...I have had fungal overgrowth for awhile now due to antibiotics...especially in Sept when getting rid of H Pylori.After the antibiotics, I went on a yeast free diet...and after breast cancer surgery again went on the yeast free diet with anti-fungal meds. After a year of probiotics, and dealing with the yeast problem my thyroid auto immune disease ... hashiminto, which was 1100, went down to 49. I believe that when I dealt with the root problem of autoimmune disease (fungal) that it also lowered the thyroid anti-bodies. This helped me. I have a sour pickle of a problem with Yeast/Candida/Thrush in my body.I was dxed with HC Leukemia some years ago, took the toxic chemo etc.In and out of remission with LDN and HGH helping support my immune system. Occasionally folks are mis-dxed with Leukemia, when in fact it is a systemic yeast problem. Some weeks ago, I loaded up with anti yeast medication, diflucan, terbinafine and on and on. Then began using Betaine HCL, hydrochloric acid, digestive enzymes, kefir, low carb and little sweets to keep yeast down. All went well for about three months, and here I am again running down quickly, low energy. No symptoms of yeast but, I load up with sporanax, max dosage 400mgs for the last two days, presto, I feel the buzz of doing well again.I am currently taking about 70mgs of iodine and will work up to hundred.With associated vitamins/minerals, for a couple weeks now. My ponder is, how much iodine must I take on a continous basis, to have a positive affect against my yeast problem?david lubbbock tx. -- " Throughout much of the world, most people are busy being boring. " -Tom Donohue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2011 Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 Keep up the happy spirit!! It does a body good!From: dAVId <dhallgar@...>Subject: Re: Re: Iodine Yeast/Candidaiodine Date: Tuesday, May 17, 2011, 10:08 PM Anne Picker, thank you for your suggestion, I shall not eat sweets. I do like your tv program. But the absolute great news is taking two hundred mgs of iodine has been my best move, perhaps ever. I am ninety percent through my best day in several years, hexheimer kicked my butt for the first four days, I was in the pitts, had to increase my seasalt to half teaspoon twice a day because of cramps. They were god aweful, thought I was gonna have to visit the emergency room, but endured while the extra salt kicked in. The salt water felt like a nostril full of coke. , what a soothing it brought me. But I do believe the iodine protocol is working on killing the yeast/candida off I super socialized today, mood is in the clouds, energy level is way up, awesome. Whereas people was just tolerated with my sour mood afore. stay vertical, david lubbock tx. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2011 Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 Even though wine and beer may not make you feel sick, they still create more yeast - the candida diet recommends absolutely no alcohol; also recommended to heal adrenal fatigue.I'm so glad that there are now other known therapies for candida. It was horrible for many years for me before it was gone. Thanks to all for the info.ArielOn Wed, May 18, 2011 at 11:34 AM, keppers79 <kep-at-home@...> wrote: Wine seems to bother me less than beer personally. Although, maybe a person has to figure out their individual triggers. KC > > FWIW, many years ago I had what I believe was a systemic yeast infection. > I cut out all sugars, breads, carbs, processed foods, dairy, foods > containing yeast, and aged foods like wine...very sad losing that wine. Basically > I ate only protein, fat and vegetables. I also started taking caprylic acid > which aggressively cleans the bowels. I also added probiotics. I did this > for about 6 weeks and haven't had a problem since.. > BarbF -- " Throughout much of the world, most people are busy being boring. " -Tom Donohue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2011 Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 Good for you, glad you're getting better!ArielOn Wed, May 18, 2011 at 2:00 PM, keppers79 <kep-at-home@...> wrote: No, I understand it's not part of the diet--you're right. But I'm feeling better and able to add things back in. I can handle adding wine back in. But a week or so of a beer a day in the evening, and I start getting kind of itchy (which was my main symptom before). It makes sense since I didn't use to drink beer at all and about a year or so before the candida, I had started having a beer a day. I don't think that was the only thing and point to other inducing factors, but I think the beer was still a big trigger for me. KC > > > > > > > Wine seems to bother me less than beer personally. Although, maybe a person > > has to figure out their individual triggers. > > > > KC -- " Throughout much of the world, most people are busy being boring. " -Tom Donohue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2011 Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 Well, 600 mg sounds excessive to me, but really sick people frequently dose in the 200-300 mg range, & I am currently at 125, so 150 does not seem excessive to me at all. (It's probably high for maintenance, but not for therapy.)AnneOn May 18, 2011, at 5:13 AM, S. Altan wrote: Anne Thanks for the correction, my arithmetic is not good. So it’s either 150mg or 600mg. Isn’t that a little excessive? Stan From: iodine [mailto:iodine ] On Behalf Of Anne SealsSent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 1:21 AMiodine Subject: Re: Re: Iodine Yeast/Candida There are 2 sizes of Iodoral tablets -- 12.5 mg & 50 mg. -- neither of which adds up to 300 mg when you multiply by 12... Anyway, better to talk mg than tablets for the sake of clarity. Anne On May 17, 2011, at 5:40 PM, AltanS@... wrote: That protocol sounds bizarre to me, 12 tablets Iodoral/day, is 300mg/day sounds way too high. Who would be able to tolerate that. Let me do a little research on it and get back to you. I was feeling hyper on 3mg/day. Stan In a message dated 5/17/2011 10:09:51 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, dhallgar@... writes: I believe if you have a specific candida infection, ie intestinal tract, crouch, throat/mouth, garlic oil and so many others pau d arco, etc etc etc. will help your immune sysem knock it back, however if the candida infection has gone to systemic, that is all parts of the body, ie blood, lungs etc. The medics have ten or fifteen script drugs that will help your immune system kill it back, then it must be treated weekly, but yeast candida will remain a problem. Notice it will help your immune system, it cannot do it alone. They have only one anti yeast medication and it must be administered IV over several days, five I think, that will kill the yeast.It is the burden of the immune system to control yeast, if your immune system is compromised in some way, most likely you will have yeast problems. Researchers are saying folks with auto immune disorders have an immune system that is equal to an elderly persons, ie yeast problems most often accompany the auto disease. The European community has developed immunization for candida, but I do not know how affective they may be or if they protect from all candidas.The only known "over the counter" method is iodoral, using a very strong mix over three weeks. Three tabs 4X a day. Which it is recommended to be followed up with a course of MMS. A Dr. Truss developed this protocol back in the fifties, when he discovered, what is called the "antibiotic syndrome". Associated with antibiotics is the destruction of all good digestive bacteria, and of course yeast then has it's way. Rarely, if ever, are we told to proceed with probiotics after using antibiotics to restore our gut bacteria. Sadly, it is like a snowball rolling down a hill, antibiotics, loss of digestive bacteria, yeast/candida replaces it, which overburdens the immune system, more infections, more antibiotics, more yeast and you find yourself in front of the chemo salesman. Son, you got cancer, or some other horrible disease, and this is the only known fix. ouch, it happens everyday. It's almost like our AMA generates it's own revenue. .I mean the syndrome was noted fifty years ago, and everyday, thousands suffer from it.Food handlers now destroy all digestive enzymes on food stuffs to encourage longer shelf life, but what happens when we eat their mess, we have difficulty digesting it. So once again yeast/candida gets an edge. yucks. Perhaps Betaine HCL and digestive enzymes are more important today, then ever before. Heartburn is a sign you do not have suffecient hydrochloric acid to digest your food, so take Betaine HCL to help. Don't complain to your medics, they will sell you scripts of nexium, or other heartburn relief, which will destroy your ability to digest food and encourage yeast/candida.Using Dr. Truss's protocol be certain to take associated items, vitamin C, seasalt, magnesium, see the main page.stay vertical, david lubbock tx. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 18, 2011 Report Share Posted May 18, 2011 Please move this discussion to the Iodine Off topic group. The link is provided at the bottom of this email. Thank you. Kathleen Re: Iodine Yeast/Candida Just curious as to why you think ketosis is dangerous? Some researchers argue it's probably the natural state of man (before agriculture), and these ketones are shown to help conditions like Alzheimer's and refractive epilepsy. Sent from my iPhone Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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