Mycoplasma

October 21, 2000

I had blood tests or mycloplasma at Nicholson's lab and it took them 5 months

to give me my results.

I called them up spoke to someone who was in charge o the testing and he put

me on hold and i heard him in the background yelling at some lab assistant or

leaving out some samples instead o reezing them.

When i called again he first told me that my blood that came rom the doctors

ofice was not received or a week and that the tests results were not

conclusive.

When i spoke with the doctor's office and they told me that Nicholoson's lab

would have to pay for the mistake and

October 21, 2000

Sorry for sending it incomplete, I hit the wrong button, but anyhow, when i

mention to him they would have to pay he then told me he made a mistake and

the tests came at the right time and result was negative.

I think there is something wrong there and they have to much volume coming in

without enough help.

Immunosciences lab have a great reputation and are excellent and that to came

back negative.

So go figure

Jill

October 21, 2000

In a message dated 10/21/00 11:51:43 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

starlet444@... writes:

<< to give me my results.

I called them up spoke to someone who was in charge o the testing and he put

me on hold and i heard him in the background yelling at some lab assistant

or

leaving out some samples instead o reezing them.

When i called again he first told me that my blood that came rom the doctors

ofice was not received or a week and that the tests results were not

conclusive.

When i spoke with the doctor's office and they told me that Nicholoson's lab

would have to pay for the mistake and

>>

How long ago did this happen? I was going to send my blood in to them this

week, now I am a bit worried.

October 21, 2000

,

I had seen one of the doctors who specializes in CFS about a year ago and he

sent my bloodwork out.

I was shocked what I heard and i know the other person forgot that I was on

hold and i guess when he realized it he told me he would get back to me.

It just goes to show that you can never really be 100 percent sure on how

results were obtained.

I am sure most of the time it is not this way but hearing what i heard that

day has changed the way i view alot of things now.

Jill

June 20, 2001

So . Where did this info come from. I am wondering if there is info that

this was sprayed over the US or what? I mean, how was this spread?

Donna

-----Original Message-----

THE LINKING PATHOGEN IN NEURO-SYSTEMIC DISEASES: CHRONIC FATIGUE,

ALZHEIMER'S, PARKINSON'S & MULTIPLE SCLEROSIS

by: , W., M.Sc.

THE MYCOPLASMA

CRYSTALLINE BRUCELLOSIS

TESTING BRUCELLOSIS UPON AN UNSUSPECTING PUBLIC

EXCERPTS:

BIOWARFARE RESEARCH Between 1942 and the present time, biological warfare

research has resulted in a more deadly and infectious form of the

mycoplasma. They extracted this mycoplasma from the brucellosis bacteria,

weaponized it and actually reduced the disease to a crystalline form.

According to Dr. Shyh-Ching Lo, one of America's top, top researchers,

this disease agent, the mycoplasma, causes among other things, AIDS,

chronic fatigue syndrome, multiple sclerosis, Wegener's disease,

Parkinson's disease, Crohn's colitis, Type I diabetes, and

collagen-vascular diseases such as rheumatoid arthritis and Alzheimer's.

snip

" I am

now of the view that the probable cause of Chronic Fatigue Syndrome and

fibromyalgia is the mycoplasma " .

June 21, 2001

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Erythema Migrans at or near the site of the bite. This rash, which generally

has a bull’s eye appearance, develops within a week after the bite occurs

and usually last a few days. Although in rare cases it may last a month or

more.

The rash is a positive sign of Lyme disease, even when blood tests are

negative. Unfortunately, 25 % or more of the people who develop Lyme disease

do not develop the rash.

If Not promptly and properly treated Lyme disease can produce the following

Conditions:

· Nervous-system problems, including inflammation either of the membranes

covering the brain and spinal cord, Meningitis, or of the brain itself,

encephalitis, some patient may develop confusion, Memory loss, and emotional

difficulties.

· Heart problems, including inflammation of the heart, mycarditis, and heart

block, an abnormal slowing of the heartbeat.

· Joint problems, usually arthritis of the larger joints such as the knee.

· Various other problems, including fever, fatigue, headache and Muscle

pain.

Re: Mycoplasma

So . Where did this info come from. I am wondering if there is info

that this was sprayed over the US or what? I mean, how was this spread?

Donna

-----Original Message-----

THE LINKING PATHOGEN IN NEURO-SYSTEMIC DISEASES: CHRONIC FATIGUE,

ALZHEIMER'S, PARKINSON'S & MULTIPLE SCLEROSIS

by: , W., M.Sc.

THE MYCOPLASMA

CRYSTALLINE BRUCELLOSIS

TESTING BRUCELLOSIS UPON AN UNSUSPECTING PUBLIC

EXCERPTS:

BIOWARFARE RESEARCH Between 1942 and the present time, biological

warfare

research has resulted in a more deadly and infectious form of the

mycoplasma. They extracted this mycoplasma from the brucellosis

bacteria,

weaponized it and actually reduced the disease to a crystalline form.

According to Dr. Shyh-Ching Lo, one of America's top, top researchers,

this disease agent, the mycoplasma, causes among other things, AIDS,

chronic fatigue syndrome, multiple sclerosis, Wegener's disease,

Parkinson's disease, Crohn's colitis, Type I diabetes, and

collagen-vascular diseases such as rheumatoid arthritis and Alzheimer's.

snip

" I am

now of the view that the probable cause of Chronic Fatigue Syndrome and

fibromyalgia is the mycoplasma " .

June 21, 2001

MYCOPLASMA ARTHRITIS ANTIBODIES ISRAEL JOINTS INFLAMMATION CYTOKINES

Ben-Gurion University of the Negev 27-Mar-01

Common Bacteria May Trigger Onset of Arthritis Library:

MED Keywords: MYCOPLASMA ARTHRITIS ANTIBODIES ISRAEL JOINTS INFLAMMATION

CYTOKINES

Description:

Evidence implicates common mycoplasma bacteria in the triggering or

exacerbating of rheumatoid arthritis. Journal of Rheumatology 27: 2747

(Dec 2000)

Ben-Gurion University of the Negev, P.O. Box 653, Beer-Sheva, Israel

For further information, please contact

E. Tepper, Department of Public Affairs Tel.: 972-8-646-1283 Fax:

972-8-647-2937 E-mail: tepperel@...

COMMON BACTERIUM IMPLICATED IN THE TRIGGERING OF RHEUMATOID ARTHRITIS

Beer-Sheva, March 19, 2001 - Researchers at Ben-Gurion University of the

Negev have shown that a well-known bacterium of the mycoplasma family -

commonly found in the human throat - may be involved in the triggering or

exacerbation of rheumatoid arthritis (RA).

The team found that fluids from the inflamed, arthritic joints of many

patients contained the specific DNA characteristic of Mycoplasma fermentans,

as well as antibodies against this organism. Their studies

also indicate that mycoplasmic membrane proteins capable of triggering

inflammation may also be present.

Collaborating in this investigation are Prof. Shulamith Horowitz and

research assistant Bela Evinson at BGU's Department of Microbiology and

Immunology, and Prof. Horowitz and Dr. Abraham Borer of the

Department of Medicine at the Joyce and Irving Goldman Medical School.

Prof. Horowitz also serves as head of Department of Medicine A at

Soroka University Medical Center. A report on their work appears in a

recent issue of the Canadian publication Journal of Rheumatology.

Rheumatoid arthritis, notes husband-wife team and Shulamith

Horowitz, is an autoimmune disease, in which the body's immune system is

triggered to attack normal body tissues. Determining the ultimate cause of

RA therefore requires the identification of an agent in arthritic joints

that interacts with the immune system.

Because mycoplasmas definitely cause arthritis in animals, doctors have

suspected since the early '50s that a mycoplasma found in humans might be

involved in the disease in man. While a number of researchers over the

decades have claimed to have isolated live mycoplasma bacteria from the

joint fluid of RA patients, others who attempted to repeat their findings

failed to do so.

However with the development of advanced DNA analysis techniques,

identification of traces of bacterial genomes has become easier to

ascertain. Thus British and French scientists have recently shown that M.

fermentans DNA is present in the joint (synovial) fluid of many RA

patients, findings confirmed by the studies at BGU. In their initial test

group of three-dozen RA patients, the BGU scientists found that M.

fermentans DNA was present in some 20 percent of the arthritic joints

examined. None of 57 patients with other forms of arthritis had this DNA in

their joints.

Of critical significance was the additional discovery that half of the RA

patients studied, even those with no detectable DNA, had abnormally large

quantities of antibodies against M. fermentans in their arthritic joints.

Because these patients had the same low quantities of anti-M. fermentans

antibodies in their blood serum as do healthy individuals, the BGU team

believes that the antibodies they found in the synovial fluid were produced

there in response to mycoplasma that had entered the joint. In 57 patients

with other varieties of arthritis, the anti-M. fermentans antibody level in

their joints was negligible, even lower than that in their serum.

The BGU scientists also identified the mycoplasmic proteins recognized by

the antibodies. These are specific membrane components known to activate the

production of immune system factors, such as TNF-alpha, which are inducers

of inflammation. This finding indicates a further mechanism that may

contribute to the appearance of RA as a result of M. fermentans entering the

joint.

" Our studies suggest, " says Horowitz, a rheumatology specialist,

" that mycoplasmas in the joint may stimulate the immune system to produce

antibodies and protein factors known as cytokines, several of which produce

local inflammation and tissue damage. There are clearly different agents

leading to RA. Among them, M. fermentans may play an important role. This

finding adds to the growing list of organisms that have long been considered

benign residents of the human body but that modern research indicates may be

involved in disease. "

This work is partially supported by a grant from the Israel Ministry of

Health.

Re: Mycoplasma

So . Where did this info come from. I am wondering if there is info

that this was sprayed over the US or what? I mean, how was this spread?

Donna

-----Original Message-----

THE LINKING PATHOGEN IN NEURO-SYSTEMIC DISEASES: CHRONIC FATIGUE,

ALZHEIMER'S, PARKINSON'S & MULTIPLE SCLEROSIS

by: , W., M.Sc.

THE MYCOPLASMA

CRYSTALLINE BRUCELLOSIS

TESTING BRUCELLOSIS UPON AN UNSUSPECTING PUBLIC

EXCERPTS:

BIOWARFARE RESEARCH Between 1942 and the present time, biological

warfare

research has resulted in a more deadly and infectious form of the

mycoplasma. They extracted this mycoplasma from the brucellosis

bacteria,

weaponized it and actually reduced the disease to a crystalline form.

According to Dr. Shyh-Ching Lo, one of America's top, top researchers,

this disease agent, the mycoplasma, causes among other things, AIDS,

chronic fatigue syndrome, multiple sclerosis, Wegener's disease,

Parkinson's disease, Crohn's colitis, Type I diabetes, and

collagen-vascular diseases such as rheumatoid arthritis and Alzheimer's.

snip

" I am

now of the view that the probable cause of Chronic Fatigue Syndrome and

fibromyalgia is the mycoplasma " .

July 10, 2002

Hi everyone:

Hearing everyone discussing Mycoplasma pathogens has

led me to question, " Has this increased my FM

syptoms? " Last year I was very sick for about 2

months and when I went to see DR because I couldn't

get rid of cough they did a cat scan which showed a

spot that they couldn't figure out. They knew it was

not cancer so they did further tests. My GP is the

sort that goes until he finds the answer. The tests

showed that I had a mycoplasma. The DR put me on

antibiotics and I began to feel better in about 3

weeks. I didn't think any further about this until I

began to read these postings. Are there any long-term

effects that I should be concerned about? Thanks for

reading. Iris

--- amydent8 <amydent8@...> wrote:

> --- alot of veterans, AND civilians with cfids, have

> tested positive

> for mycoplasma incognitus/fermentans. This pathogen

> was created? and

> patented by the US department of defense and is in

> the public record

> in the US patent office files online.IT's hard to

> deny something

> that's patented..., and even harder to deny the

> numbers of people sick

> from this government made pathogen...Amy

>

> In @y..., s Johan Saugstad

> <a.j.saugstad@f...>

> wrote:

> >

> > hello! i came across some stuff written by Neenya

> Ostrom. Together

> with a

> > few others she calls CFS a government cover-up.

> There are some people

> > saying that the government denies the gulfwar

> syndrome, and having

> certain

> > claims about AIDS etc. I am all for sound system

> criticism, but some of

> > this seems to be a little paranoid. Anyone have

> any opinions about this?

> >

> > Best wishes,

> > s

>

__________________________________________________

August 28, 2005

To start with, it is so carelessly written that I would not bother to read

very far. I have no confidence in the work of people who cannot concentrate

well enough to write a proper article-except if they have brain dysfunction

such as we have:-). (Then I make allowances.

Adrienne

Mycoplasma

Hello Group,

I was wondering what you thought about this article by a guy named

, author of The Brucellosis Triangle and The Extremely Unfortunate

Skull Valley Incident.

http://www.consumerhealth.org/articles/display.cfm?ID=20000830164126

Thanks,

Du Pre

Website: http://www.angelfire.com/poetry/soareagle/index.html

" By words the mind is winged. " Aristophanes

August 28, 2005

I beg to differ. Don 's article is excellently written. I have

personally documented much of what he has researched and found it to

be true. I own a copy of one of Dr. Lo's research studies into

mycoplasma incognitus. It is bizarre to say the least. Perhaps if you

think 's writing is careless, this is because you are suffering

cfs brain fog and are unable to grasp what he is saying. That is too

bad, and I am sorry, but that does not reflect on his research or

writing ability. If you are too unwell to do the research then you

need to trust some of us, as well as Ken Lassessen. I expect Ken will

vouch for my writing and research, also for the Mycoplasma Registry

studies done by and Leslee Dudley. They are far more

knowledgeable than I and will tell you of 's excellent work.

a Carnes

> To start with, it is so carelessly written that I would not bother

to read

> very far. I have no confidence in the work of people who cannot

concentrate

> well enough to write a proper article-except if they have brain

dysfunction

> such as we have:-). (Then I make allowances.

>

> Adrienne

> Mycoplasma

>

> Hello Group,

> I was wondering what you thought about this article by a guy named

> , author of The Brucellosis Triangle and The Extremely

Unfortunate

> Skull Valley Incident.

> http://www.consumerhealth.org/articles/display.cfm?ID=20000830164126

> Thanks,

> Du Pre

> Website: http://www.angelfire.com/poetry/soareagle/index.html

> " By words the mind is winged. " Aristophanes

>

August 29, 2005

MAybe your the one with the problem! (A heart problem?) I would expect the

personal quarrel you have with me from out backchannel connection to stay

off the list!

Keep your nastiness in, please. The list doesn't need it.

Adrienne

Mycoplasma

>

> Hello Group,

> I was wondering what you thought about this article by a guy named

> , author of The Brucellosis Triangle and The Extremely

Unfortunate

> Skull Valley Incident.

> http://www.consumerhealth.org/articles/display.cfm?ID=20000830164126

> Thanks,

> Du Pre

> Website: http://www.angelfire.com/poetry/soareagle/index.html

> " By words the mind is winged. " Aristophanes

>

August 29, 2005

Adrienne,

I have a great deal of respect for Don . I did not care to see

his writing insulted. He is a good friend to cfs patients even if we

may not agree with all his conclusions. Perhaps you might want to

reread his article and address my point regarding Dr. Lo's research

into mycoplasma. It is a fascinating study if you can get to a

medical library and look up the articles, not just the abstracts. You

may also find some of Garth Nicolson's articles of relevance.

I have no heart problem. I have no personal quarrel with you. If my

comment about your being too unwell to do the research

was " nastiness " I sincerely apologize. I have a personal rule that I

try never to publicly say anything derogatory about anyone. I think I

broke that rule, and that I do regret.

You and I both believe in mutual respect for all human beings. Don

deserves this respect.

a Carnes

> > To start with, it is so carelessly written that I would not bother

> to read

> > very far. I have no confidence in the work of people who cannot

> concentrate

> > well enough to write a proper article-except if they have brain

> dysfunction

> > such as we have:-). (Then I make allowances.

> >

> > Adrienne

> > Mycoplasma

> >

> > Hello Group,

> > I was wondering what you thought about this article by a guy named

>

> > , author of The Brucellosis Triangle and The Extremely

> Unfortunate

> > Skull Valley Incident.

> > http://www.consumerhealth.org/articles/display.cfm?

ID=20000830164126

> > Thanks,

> > Du Pre

> > Website: http://www.angelfire.com/poetry/soareagle/index.html

> > " By words the mind is winged. " Aristophanes

> >

April 30, 2007

Not sure if you can be a carrier of it but my daughter

has had it once before and it put her down for several

days.

Cassie

Future Director of the Charismatic Carolers www.marykay.com/cassieredinger

November 30, 2008

, please do not get carried away with this. There are more bugs

out there than we know, just have an immune system that can deal with

them. Get clean and good nutrition, right frame of mind and smile.

Love to you all

Graeme

szukidavis@... wrote:

>

> In a message dated 11/30/08 1:21:39 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> vgammilladelphia (DOT) net <mailto:vgammill%40adelphia.net> writes:

>

> > You can do a mycoplasma test if it is convenient and your tester is

> > skilled at this type of blood test.

>

> What do you mean by skilled? I am in the Northeast. Is there a certain

> way

> to draw the blood? A certain laboratory that it should be sent to? Please

> advise.

>

> Otherwise I wouldn't worry about > it; I've seen many people hammer back

> > their cancers without a clue as to their mycoplasma status.

> >

> > It seems that it would be best to get rid of he mycoplasma

> regardless, for

> > general health and for cancer prevention or treatment. Mycoplasma is

> a nasty

> > thing to have. What treatment is recommended for mycoplasma?

> >

> > Best,

> >

>

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March 15, 2009

In a message dated 3/15/09 8:04:06 PM Eastern Standard Time,

vgammill@... writes:

> Roxithromycin, or cypro with doxycycline, if levels are low we might

> use SOD

..I have given up on the mycins. They are ototoxic and Zithromycin

gave me tinnitus. What other antibiotics would be useful for mycoplasma? Just

in case?

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How about colloidal silver?

Re: mycoplasma

In a message dated 3/15/09 8:04:06 PM Eastern Standard Time,

vgammill@... writes:

> Roxithromycin, or cypro with doxycycline, if levels are low we might

> use SOD

..I have given up on the mycins. They are ototoxic and Zithromycin

gave me tinnitus. What other antibiotics would be useful for mycoplasma? Just

in case?

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Mycoplasma is easy enough to culture anaerobically on a microscope

slide. Use very dilute colloidal silver and see what happens. I

know that many people with Gulf War 1 related mycoplasma and they

tried silver with limited success. It might just take very high doses.

At 07:15 PM 3/15/2009, you wrote:

>How about colloidal silver?

May 14, 2011

In Dr. Brownstein's books notes that a high percentage of patients test positive

for mycoplasma and he uses Minocycline in addition to the iodine protocol.

In the Overcoming Thyroid Disorders book he did not include what tests he uses

to detect this. Could someone please share what types of testing for pathogens

he uses for patients with autoimmune illnesses?

Or if you are a patient of another doctor that is experienced testing for

pathogens, what are the most productive tests to get? (specific to

virus/bacteria/mycoplasma)

Also curious about others experience of having tested positive for a

virus/bacteria/mycoplasma and only using the iodine protocol - or - using the

iodine protocol and an antibiotic such as Minocycline.

May 15, 2011

Thanks ido, I had heard of that book. Do you know what types of testing that

author recommends?

Anyone else know what testing Dr. Brownstein recommends?

>

> >

> > In Dr. Brownstein's books notes that a high percentage of patients test

> > positive for mycoplasma and he uses Minocycline in addition to the iodine

> > protocol.

> >

> > In the Overcoming Thyroid Disorders book he did not include what tests he

> > uses to detect this. Could someone please share what types of testing for

> > pathogens he uses for patients with autoimmune illnesses?

> >

> > Or if you are a patient of another doctor that is experienced testing for

> > pathogens, what are the most productive tests to get? (specific to

> > virus/bacteria/mycoplasma)

> >

> > Also curious about others experience of having tested positive for a

> > virus/bacteria/mycoplasma and only using the iodine protocol - or - using

> > the iodine protocol and an antibiotic such as Minocycline.

> >

>

May 15, 2011

i do not know about testing.i never read the book,but i know that dr berkson treats RA with antibiotics ldn and ALA iv with good results.

RA with Lymphoma from Humira - B Cell Lymphoma - Breast Cancer - Rheumatoid Disorders - Dermatomyositis -4)

RA - SLE (Lupus) -5)

On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 6:05 PM, baxrox <baxrox@...> wrote:

Thanks ido, I had heard of that book. Do you know what types of testing that author recommends?Anyone else know what testing Dr. Brownstein recommends? > > >> >> > In Dr. Brownstein's books notes that a high percentage of patients test

> > positive for mycoplasma and he uses Minocycline in addition to the iodine> > protocol.> >> > In the Overcoming Thyroid Disorders book he did not include what tests he> > uses to detect this. Could someone please share what types of testing for

> > pathogens he uses for patients with autoimmune illnesses?> >> > Or if you are a patient of another doctor that is experienced testing for> > pathogens, what are the most productive tests to get? (specific to

> > virus/bacteria/mycoplasma)> >> > Also curious about others experience of having tested positive for a> > virus/bacteria/mycoplasma and only using the iodine protocol - or - using

> > the iodine protocol and an antibiotic such as Minocycline.> >> > > >>

May 15, 2011

I have been doing ldn and ALA for 15 months and 100 mg of minocin on MWF nights for 4 years to fight RA according to this book which I read and own and used to get my GP to RX the med. I don't remember any testing recommended in this book. Have had 3 GPs in past few years who all continued minocin looking at the 2 page note to doctors.

Both rheumatologists though would not support these RX choices even though minocin is considered a mild antibiotic and daily probiotics seems to keep digestion completely healthy. The typical RA RX meds that were offered to me continuously have incredible side effects and typically cost 1500 or more each copay per month if the body could even tolerate them.

Thank you for sharing these videos. I have seen some with him but missed these. I also tested positive for SLE at 20 when had the butterfly rash. I test negative these days and don't know I have any symptoms of it though my kidney enzymes are higher than normal. Anyway been through enough in my life that am quite happy to have ldn work on these issues.

Ldn also wonderful for pain and for sleep issues and likely settles hormone issues down. It is another thing that I learned about from this iodine list. Enjoy good health. Pam

On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 9:39 AM, ido zahavi <zahavi100@...> wrote:

i do not know about testing.i never read the book,but i know that dr berkson treats RA with antibiotics ldn and ALA iv with good results.

RA with Lymphoma from Humira - B Cell Lymphoma - Breast Cancer - Rheumatoid Disorders - Dermatomyositis -4)

RA - SLE (Lupus) -5)

On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 6:05 PM, baxrox <baxrox@...> wrote:

Thanks ido, I had heard of that book. Do you know what types of testing that author recommends?Anyone else know what testing Dr. Brownstein recommends? > > >> >> > In Dr. Brownstein's books notes that a high percentage of patients test

> > positive for mycoplasma and he uses Minocycline in addition to the iodine> > protocol.> >> > In the Overcoming Thyroid Disorders book he did not include what tests he> > uses to detect this. Could someone please share what types of testing for

> > pathogens he uses for patients with autoimmune illnesses?> >> > Or if you are a patient of another doctor that is experienced testing for> > pathogens, what are the most productive tests to get? (specific to

> > virus/bacteria/mycoplasma)> >> > Also curious about others experience of having tested positive for a> > virus/bacteria/mycoplasma and only using the iodine protocol - or - using

> > the iodine protocol and an antibiotic such as Minocycline.> >> > > >>

May 15, 2011

Having a hard time understanding/knowing what all the acronyms mean, since I am fairly new to all this. Pam could you write out all the acronyms below so that I can decipher what you are talking about?ldn, ALA, SLE?

Thanks! On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 2:46 PM, Pamela Valley <2007pams@...> wrote:

I have been doing ldn and ALA for 15 months and 100 mg of minocin on MWF nights for 4 years to fight RA according to this book which I read and own and used to get my GP to RX the med. I don't remember any testing recommended in this book. Have had 3 GPs in past few years who all continued minocin looking at the 2 page note to doctors.

Both rheumatologists though would not support these RX choices even though minocin is considered a mild antibiotic and daily probiotics seems to keep digestion completely healthy. The typical RA RX meds that were offered to me continuously have incredible side effects and typically cost 1500 or more each copay per month if the body could even tolerate them.

Thank you for sharing these videos. I have seen some with him but missed these. I also tested positive for SLE at 20 when had the butterfly rash. I test negative these days and don't know I have any symptoms of it though my kidney enzymes are higher than normal. Anyway been through enough in my life that am quite happy to have ldn work on these issues.

Ldn also wonderful for pain and for sleep issues and likely settles hormone issues down. It is another thing that I learned about from this iodine list. Enjoy good health. Pam

On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 9:39 AM, ido zahavi <zahavi100@...> wrote:

i do not know about testing.i never read the book,but i know that dr berkson treats RA with antibiotics ldn and ALA iv with good results.

RA with Lymphoma from Humira - B Cell Lymphoma - Breast Cancer - Rheumatoid Disorders - Dermatomyositis -4)

RA - SLE (Lupus) -5)

On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 6:05 PM, baxrox <baxrox@...> wrote:

Thanks ido, I had heard of that book. Do you know what types of testing that author recommends?Anyone else know what testing Dr. Brownstein recommends? > > >> >> > In Dr. Brownstein's books notes that a high percentage of patients test

> > positive for mycoplasma and he uses Minocycline in addition to the iodine> > protocol.> >> > In the Overcoming Thyroid Disorders book he did not include what tests he> > uses to detect this. Could someone please share what types of testing for

> > pathogens he uses for patients with autoimmune illnesses?> >> > Or if you are a patient of another doctor that is experienced testing for> > pathogens, what are the most productive tests to get? (specific to

> > virus/bacteria/mycoplasma)> >> > Also curious about others experience of having tested positive for a> > virus/bacteria/mycoplasma and only using the iodine protocol - or - using

> > the iodine protocol and an antibiotic such as Minocycline.> >> > > >>

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May 15, 2011

Pamela - 1500 DOLLARS A MONTH for COPAY? That is utterly ridiculous.Thanks forall this good info!ArielOn Sun, May 15, 2011 at 5:46 PM, Pamela Valley <2007pams@...> wrote:

I have been doing ldn and ALA for 15 months and 100 mg of minocin on MWF nights for 4 years to fight RA according to this book which I read and own and used to get my GP to RX the med. I don't remember any testing recommended in this book. Have had 3 GPs in past few years who all continued minocin looking at the 2 page note to doctors.

Both rheumatologists though would not support these RX choices even though minocin is considered a mild antibiotic and daily probiotics seems to keep digestion completely healthy. The typical RA RX meds that were offered to me continuously have incredible side effects and typically cost 1500 or more each copay per month if the body could even tolerate them.

Thank you for sharing these videos. I have seen some with him but missed these. I also tested positive for SLE at 20 when had the butterfly rash. I test negative these days and don't know I have any symptoms of it though my kidney enzymes are higher than normal. Anyway been through enough in my life that am quite happy to have ldn work on these issues.

Ldn also wonderful for pain and for sleep issues and likely settles hormone issues down. It is another thing that I learned about from this iodine list. Enjoy good health. Pam

On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 9:39 AM, ido zahavi <zahavi100@...> wrote:

i do not know about testing.i never read the book,but i know that dr berkson treats RA with antibiotics ldn and ALA iv with good results.

RA with Lymphoma from Humira - B Cell Lymphoma - Breast Cancer - Rheumatoid Disorders - Dermatomyositis -4)

RA - SLE (Lupus) -5)

On Sun, May 15, 2011 at 6:05 PM, baxrox <baxrox@...> wrote:

Thanks ido, I had heard of that book. Do you know what types of testing that author recommends?Anyone else know what testing Dr. Brownstein recommends? > > >> >> > In Dr. Brownstein's books notes that a high percentage of patients test

> > positive for mycoplasma and he uses Minocycline in addition to the iodine> > protocol.> >> > In the Overcoming Thyroid Disorders book he did not include what tests he> > uses to detect this. Could someone please share what types of testing for

> > pathogens he uses for patients with autoimmune illnesses?> >> > Or if you are a patient of another doctor that is experienced testing for> > pathogens, what are the most productive tests to get? (specific to

> > virus/bacteria/mycoplasma)> >> > Also curious about others experience of having tested positive for a> > virus/bacteria/mycoplasma and only using the iodine protocol - or - using

> > the iodine protocol and an antibiotic such as Minocycline.> >> > > >>

-- " Throughout much of the world, most people are busy being boring. " -Tom Donohue

May 15, 2011

This is the readon why the president passed the Healthcare Reform Act, to make health care affrodable.

Jag

Thanks ido, I had heard of that book. Do you know what types of testing that author recommends?Anyone else know what testing Dr. Brownstein recommends?

> > >> >> > In Dr. Brownstein's books notes that a high percentage of patients test> > positive for mycoplasma and he uses Minocycline in addition to the iodine> > protocol.> >> > In the Overcoming Thyroid Disorders book he did not include what tests he> > uses to detect this. Could someone please share what types of testing for> > pathogens he uses for patients with autoimmune illnesses?> >> > Or if you are a patient of another doctor that is experienced testing for> > pathogens, what are the most productive tests to get? (specific to> > virus/bacteria/mycoplasma)> >> > Also curious about others experience of having tested positive for a> > virus/bacteria/mycoplasma and only using the iodine

protocol - or - using> > the iodine protocol and an antibiotic such as Minocycline.> >> > > >>

-- "Throughout much of the world, most people are busy being boring."-Tom Donohue

May 15, 2011

RA=rheumatoid arthritisLDN=low dose naltrexoneALA is a supplement that makes ldn work betterSLE=systemic lupus erthymetosis(sp?)Hope these help. PamOn Sun, May 15, 2011 at 2:57 PM, Cole <rightwithme1@...> wrote: