Re: New to group, Age 30 with Cancer

April 30, 2011

Hi Ben,

Everyone here is sympathetic with what you are going through and would like

to see you regain your health. I know that you're also looking into taking

LDN, which I strongly encourage you to do.

You should read the New Member document that will acquaint you with the

basics of the iodine protocol. You must take the companion nutrients,

which the document outlines. Many of your questions are covered in that

document.

For those with cancer, we recommend getting the daily dose up to 100mg/day

(and higher up to 300mg/day) as quickly as possible, but because of the

toxic environment we live in, you will probably encounter detoxification

symptoms which can be quite uncomfortable. These are temporary and are not

harmful in themselves, so for people with time pressure in their illness,

like those with cancer, we counsel to just live with that discomfort and

get the dosage up high.

I am attaching the new member document here for you once again. You also

received it when you joined. If you cannot open the file, let me know.

Once you've read the new member document, we can move on from there with

more questions.

best wishes,

--

moderator, Iodine list

At 10:46 AM 4/30/2011, you wrote:

>Hey Everyone

>Im new to this group. My name is ben and I have stage 4 colon cancer which

>has speard to other parts of my body. I am 30 and scared, I dont want to

>lose my life at this age.

>

>I am no stranger to alternative. I have tried Cesium Chloride, DMSO, DCA,

>supplements/vitamins, praying, diet change, and recently went on HS to

>help with my weight loss.

>

>I have joined some forums who have said to check out Iodine, Oleander and

>LDN.

>

>Has anyone had any positive results with stage 4 cancer and iodine? does

>it matter what iodine you take? Is there a specific brand I should look

>out for?

>

>Does anyone know if it conflicts with any other alternatives?

>

>I live in Canada, is the recommended iodine easy to find here?

>

>Any info you can give me is greatly appreciated.

>

>Ben

>

>------------------------------------

>

>All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT

>group IodineOT/

>

>Commonly asked questions: http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e

April 30, 2011

Do you live in Toronto? I was able to purchase lugols at a compounding pharmacy at Bathurst and St Clair called Habers. 416-656-9800KimOn 2011-04-30, at 11:46 AM, ben_roche1 <ben_roche1@...> wrote:

Hey Everyone

Im new to this group. My name is ben and I have stage 4 colon cancer which has speard to other parts of my body. I am 30 and scared, I dont want to lose my life at this age.

I am no stranger to alternative. I have tried Cesium Chloride, DMSO, DCA, supplements/vitamins, praying, diet change, and recently went on HS to help with my weight loss.

I have joined some forums who have said to check out Iodine, Oleander and LDN.

Has anyone had any positive results with stage 4 cancer and iodine? does it matter what iodine you take? Is there a specific brand I should look out for?

Does anyone know if it conflicts with any other alternatives?

I live in Canada, is the recommended iodine easy to find here?

Any info you can give me is greatly appreciated.

Ben

April 30, 2011

Do you need a prescription for lugols? I live in far northern alberta. I

contacted some health food stores that Carry a form of iodine drops. No clue

what the quality is like compared to lugols. Lugols seems to be the iodine of

choice.

This site has good info on iodine

http://www.tbyil.com/anticancer.htm

Says you can buy it here

http://www.utopiasilver.com/products/supplements/iodine.htm

It comes in 2 ounce bottles. The site says you should take between

50-100mg a day which is about 50-100 drops per day. That seems like allot does

anyone know. That would be between 1-2 bottles per month.

I was also advised to take selenium with it. It said 900-2000mg a day of it.

Most pills are about 250mg so thats 5 pills a day. This also seems like allot.

Does anyone have experience with these doses and cancer?

Does anyone know of a good lugols supply in Canada? Is lugols the only iodine

out there worth looking at?

All info is appreciated.

Ben

>

> > Hey Everyone

> > Im new to this group. My name is ben and I have stage 4 colon cancer which

has speard to other parts of my body. I am 30 and scared, I dont want to lose my

life at this age.

> >

> > I am no stranger to alternative. I have tried Cesium Chloride, DMSO, DCA,

supplements/vitamins, praying, diet change, and recently went on HS to help with

my weight loss.

> >

> > I have joined some forums who have said to check out Iodine, Oleander and

LDN.

> >

> > Has anyone had any positive results with stage 4 cancer and iodine? does it

matter what iodine you take? Is there a specific brand I should look out for?

> >

> > Does anyone know if it conflicts with any other alternatives?

> >

> > I live in Canada, is the recommended iodine easy to find here?

> >

> > Any info you can give me is greatly appreciated.

> >

> > Ben

> >

>

April 30, 2011

I think if you could find a compounding pharmacy they could make it for you.On 2011-04-30, at 4:58 PM, ben_roche1 wrote:

Do you need a prescription for lugols? I live in far northern alberta. I contacted some health food stores that Carry a form of iodine drops. No clue what the quality is like compared to lugols. Lugols seems to be the iodine of choice.

This site has good info on iodine

http://www.tbyil.com/anticancer.htm

Says you can buy it here

http://www.utopiasilver.com/products/supplements/iodine.htm

It comes in 2 ounce bottles. The site says you should take between

50-100mg a day which is about 50-100 drops per day. That seems like allot does anyone know. That would be between 1-2 bottles per month.

I was also advised to take selenium with it. It said 900-2000mg a day of it. Most pills are about 250mg so thats 5 pills a day. This also seems like allot.

Does anyone have experience with these doses and cancer?

Does anyone know of a good lugols supply in Canada? Is lugols the only iodine out there worth looking at?

All info is appreciated.

Ben

>

> > Hey Everyone

> > Im new to this group. My name is ben and I have stage 4 colon cancer which has speard to other parts of my body. I am 30 and scared, I dont want to lose my life at this age.

> >

> > I am no stranger to alternative. I have tried Cesium Chloride, DMSO, DCA, supplements/vitamins, praying, diet change, and recently went on HS to help with my weight loss.

> >

> > I have joined some forums who have said to check out Iodine, Oleander and LDN.

> >

> > Has anyone had any positive results with stage 4 cancer and iodine? does it matter what iodine you take? Is there a specific brand I should look out for?

> >

> > Does anyone know if it conflicts with any other alternatives?

> >

> > I live in Canada, is the recommended iodine easy to find here?

> >

> > Any info you can give me is greatly appreciated.

> >

> > Ben

> >

>

April 30, 2011

Ben,

This list is the source of the best, cutting-edge information about iodine.

Please read the New Member document that I sent in my previous email.

Lugol's (liquid) or Iodoral (tablets) is the best type of iodine to use

because we use milligram doses and other types of iodine don't have enough

iodine in them, they are much more expensive to use. Generally speaking,

for people looking at using larger doses such as yourself, Lugol's is more

cost effective.

--

At 03:58 PM 4/30/2011, you wrote:

>Do you need a prescription for lugols? I live in far northern alberta. I

>contacted some health food stores that Carry a form of iodine drops. No

>clue what the quality is like compared to lugols. Lugols seems to be the

>iodine of choice.

>

>This site has good info on iodine

>http://www.tbyil.com/anticancer.htm

>

>Says you can buy it here

>http://www.utopiasilver.com/products/supplements/iodine.htm

>

>It comes in 2 ounce bottles. The site says you should take between

>50-100mg a day which is about 50-100 drops per day. That seems like allot

>does anyone know. That would be between 1-2 bottles per month.

>

>I was also advised to take selenium with it. It said 900-2000mg a day of

>it. Most pills are about 250mg so thats 5 pills a day. This also seems

>like allot.

>

>Does anyone have experience with these doses and cancer?

>Does anyone know of a good lugols supply in Canada? Is lugols the only

>iodine out there worth looking at?

>

>All info is appreciated.

>

>Ben

>

> >

> > > Hey Everyone

> > > Im new to this group. My name is ben and I have stage 4 colon cancer

> which has speard to other parts of my body. I am 30 and scared, I dont

> want to lose my life at this age.

> > >

> > > I am no stranger to alternative. I have tried Cesium Chloride, DMSO,

> DCA, supplements/vitamins, praying, diet change, and recently went on HS

> to help with my weight loss.

> > >

> > > I have joined some forums who have said to check out Iodine, Oleander

> and LDN.

> > >

> > > Has anyone had any positive results with stage 4 cancer and iodine?

> does it matter what iodine you take? Is there a specific brand I should

> look out for?

> > >

> > > Does anyone know if it conflicts with any other alternatives?

> > >

> > > I live in Canada, is the recommended iodine easy to find here?

> > >

> > > Any info you can give me is greatly appreciated.

> > >

> > > Ben

> > >

> >

>

>------------------------------------

>

>All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT

>group IodineOT/

>

>Commonly asked questions: http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e

April 30, 2011

And you can also make your own, which makes it MUCH cheaper.ArielOn Sat, Apr 30, 2011 at 5:22 PM, B <vbaker@...> wrote:

Ben,

This list is the source of the best, cutting-edge information about iodine.

Please read the New Member document that I sent in my previous email.

Lugol's (liquid) or Iodoral (tablets) is the best type of iodine to use

because we use milligram doses and other types of iodine don't have enough

iodine in them, they are much more expensive to use. Generally speaking,

for people looking at using larger doses such as yourself, Lugol's is more

cost effective.

--

At 03:58 PM 4/30/2011, you wrote:

>Do you need a prescription for lugols? I live in far northern alberta. I

>contacted some health food stores that Carry a form of iodine drops. No

>clue what the quality is like compared to lugols. Lugols seems to be the

>iodine of choice.

>

>This site has good info on iodine

>http://www.tbyil.com/anticancer.htm

>

>Says you can buy it here

>http://www.utopiasilver.com/products/supplements/iodine.htm

>

>It comes in 2 ounce bottles. The site says you should take between

>50-100mg a day which is about 50-100 drops per day. That seems like allot

>does anyone know. That would be between 1-2 bottles per month.

>

>I was also advised to take selenium with it. It said 900-2000mg a day of

>it. Most pills are about 250mg so thats 5 pills a day. This also seems

>like allot.

>

>Does anyone have experience with these doses and cancer?

>Does anyone know of a good lugols supply in Canada? Is lugols the only

>iodine out there worth looking at?

>

>All info is appreciated.

>

>Ben

>

> >

> > > Hey Everyone

> > > Im new to this group. My name is ben and I have stage 4 colon cancer

> which has speard to other parts of my body. I am 30 and scared, I dont

> want to lose my life at this age.

> > >

> > > I am no stranger to alternative. I have tried Cesium Chloride, DMSO,

> DCA, supplements/vitamins, praying, diet change, and recently went on HS

> to help with my weight loss.

> > >

> > > I have joined some forums who have said to check out Iodine, Oleander

> and LDN.

> > >

> > > Has anyone had any positive results with stage 4 cancer and iodine?

> does it matter what iodine you take? Is there a specific brand I should

> look out for?

> > >

> > > Does anyone know if it conflicts with any other alternatives?

> > >

> > > I live in Canada, is the recommended iodine easy to find here?

> > >

> > > Any info you can give me is greatly appreciated.

> > >

> > > Ben

> > >

> >

>

>------------------------------------

>

>All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT

>group IodineOT/

>

>Commonly asked questions: http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e

April 30, 2011

Ben: Dr Loretta Lanphier posts sometimes on this site. Look her up for her story

on her blog. She went through stage 4 colon cancer,naturally, and runs a site

dedicated to natural wellness...Oasis Wellness, or something like that. You can

also search her posts on an advanced search here; type in her name " Dr. L "

Best of Luck. I am so sorry for your dilemma, but you are on the right track so

far. Most who nip their cancer do an aggressive iodine protocol, and aggressive

dietary regimen like Gerson and enzyme therapy, as well as detoxing things like

Infrared Sauna, liver flushes, coffee enemas and the like. All of them together.

Sounds like you have been trying very hard to do that.

Marcy

>

> Hey Everyone

> Im new to this group. My name is ben and I have stage 4 colon cancer which has

speard to other parts of my body. I am 30 and scared, I dont want to lose my

life at this age.

>

> I am no stranger to alternative. I have tried Cesium Chloride, DMSO, DCA,

supplements/vitamins, praying, diet change, and recently went on HS to help with

my weight loss.

>

> I have joined some forums who have said to check out Iodine, Oleander and LDN.

>

> Has anyone had any positive results with stage 4 cancer and iodine? does it

matter what iodine you take? Is there a specific brand I should look out for?

>

> Does anyone know if it conflicts with any other alternatives?

>

> I live in Canada, is the recommended iodine easy to find here?

>

> Any info you can give me is greatly appreciated.

>

> Ben

>

April 30, 2011

Ben

Take Iodoral. It is the best bang for your buck. You need a lot of iodine and

might as well just swallow 4-6 50mg pills instead of measuring and tasting all

those drops. VRP and BreastCancerChoices.org sell it, as do many others sites.

The price points vary by twenty-five dollars, so you might want to compare, but

then again there has been a slight shortage due to the Japan crisis. Sellers are

just beginning to build back their supplies.

I second the motion for you to read VERY carefully the new member docs in the

" Files " section at the left sidebar of our message homepage. They will outline

all the important supplements to take, and amounts, with iodine, so that the

iodine works the way it is supposed to.

Best,

Marcy

> > >

> > > > Hey Everyone

> > > > Im new to this group. My name is ben and I have stage 4 colon cancer

which has speard to other parts of my body. I am 30 and scared, I dont want to

lose my life at this age.

> > > >

> > > > I am no stranger to alternative. I have tried Cesium Chloride, DMSO,

DCA, supplements/vitamins, praying, diet change, and recently went on HS to help

with my weight loss.

> > > >

> > > > I have joined some forums who have said to check out Iodine, Oleander

and LDN.

> > > >

> > > > Has anyone had any positive results with stage 4 cancer and iodine? does

it matter what iodine you take? Is there a specific brand I should look out for?

> > > >

> > > > Does anyone know if it conflicts with any other alternatives?

> > > >

> > > > I live in Canada, is the recommended iodine easy to find here?

> > > >

> > > > Any info you can give me is greatly appreciated.

> > > >

> > > > Ben

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

April 30, 2011

Ben I'm in Ontario, too.

I'm not facing what you're facing, but in some respects we're lucky to be where

we are. I had no trouble getting a prescription for LDN when I asked, and we

can get Lugol's 5% with no great problem.

Health n' SYnc (Barrie) also has it by mail if you aren't in Toronto!

Jaye

>

> > Hey Everyone

> > Im new to this group. My name is ben and I have stage 4 colon cancer which

has speard to other parts of my body. I am 30 and scared, I dont want to lose my

life at this age.

> >

> > I am no stranger to alternative. I have tried Cesium Chloride, DMSO, DCA,

supplements/vitamins, praying, diet change, and recently went on HS to help with

my weight loss.

> >

> > I have joined some forums who have said to check out Iodine, Oleander and

LDN.

> >

> > Has anyone had any positive results with stage 4 cancer and iodine? does it

matter what iodine you take? Is there a specific brand I should look out for?

> >

> > Does anyone know if it conflicts with any other alternatives?

> >

> > I live in Canada, is the recommended iodine easy to find here?

> >

> > Any info you can give me is greatly appreciated.

> >

> > Ben

> >

>

April 30, 2011

Hi Ben

I saw your post here and on another forum, I think. I am a stage 3 colon

cancer survivor of eleven years. I did have a resection to remove the

tumor and then did one month of hellacious chemo and ended up in the hospital

with severe dehydration. Oncologist wanted me to do six months of chemo.

We decided to look elsewhere when the oncologist admitted that I had a 70% of recurrence

even with chemo.

I highly suggest researching Dr. in New York. Instead

of putting money toward therapies that may or may not work, take that money and

get an appointment with Dr. . Much of the protocol that Dr.

uses is high dose enzyme therapy. That was also a part the

therapy that I used. I don’t know Dr. personally (would

love to meet him one day) but his work is based on Dr. Kelley’s

Protocol for cancer.

Have you read Suzanne Somer’s book KNOCKOUT? It is very informative

about doctors who are curing cancer and in my opinion this book should be in

everyone’s health library. I wrote a blog

about the recent NBC interview with Suzanne in which Dr. and Dr. Burzynski were interviewed and scrutinized.

Iodine, Oleander and LDN are all great choices, but at stage four I would

highly recommend having a knowledgeable practitioner to help manage an

effective protocol for your health concerns.

My health testimony can be found at http://www.ahha.org/articles.asp?Id=96

There are no magic bullets when it comes to degenerative disease; however, when

approached from a whole-body standpoint degenerative disease can be cured –

even cancer.

I wish you much success on your path toward health and wellness!

Be Well

Dr.L

On 2011-04-30, at 11:46 AM, ben_roche1

<ben_roche1@> wrote:

Hey Everyone

Im new to this group. My name is ben and I have stage 4

colon cancer which has speard to other parts of my body. I am 30 and scared, I

dont want to lose my life at this age.

I am no stranger to alternative. I have tried Cesium Chloride,

DMSO, DCA, supplements/vitamins, praying, diet change, and recently went on HS

to help with my weight loss.

I have joined some forums who have said to check out

Iodine, Oleander and LDN.

Has anyone had any positive results with stage 4 cancer

and iodine? does it matter what iodine you take? Is there a specific brand I

should look out for?

Does anyone know if it conflicts with any other

alternatives?

I live in Canada, is the recommended iodine easy to find

here?

Any info you can give me is greatly appreciated.

Ben

May 1, 2011

Hey Dr L

Thanks for your post. I actually discovered Dr Gonalezs site from Somer's blog

when a woman posted that she was cured with his help from stage 4 breast cancer.

I researched him allot, read up on Enzymes, specifically ones made from I think

it was pork liver. He makes his own I think. Then I looked into his treatment

costs and realized I could never afford it. If I had the money he would be my

first choice but Canada Health Care and insurance would never cover that. I did,

after reading his work go out and buy Wobozym N, which is an ezyme made of some

of the similar things he mentioned. I think he has his patients on something

like 90 various pills and supplements a day. That and he was a big supporter of

coffee enemas. I dont know what the protocol of enemas are when you have colon

cancer? Is it dangerous?

Do you know what an appointment with him runs at?

My health is at the point I am a little scared to travel. New York is a far ways

away from me. He is however a person I feel confident in trusting with my

health. Dont know if I could afford his treatment though. I hate knowing that

money is the one thing standing in my way of recovery. I know there are amazing

clinic in Germany, Mexico and China that are doing some really out there things

and having great success. They are all running at about 25 - 60 thousand a

month. For a while I was trying to fundraise but realized that these clinics are

out of reach for me and If I was going to do it I had to find economical ways,

research myself, and maybe take their protocols and supplement them with things

that are as close to what they use as possible.

I dont plan to give up on the fight until I cant fight no more.

The new things I have found are Oleander, Iodine and LDN. I am going to add

those to my current vitamin, diet, supplement regime and hope for the best. I am

willing to try anything, starting with the things that work best with people.

I have not read through your links yet but I most certainly will. Any info you

can give me about things you did since our situations are similar is greatly

appreciated. My email is ben_roche1@... or post here and I will check

back often. Thanks again

Ben

>

> Hey Everyone

>

> Im new to this group. My name is ben and I have stage 4 colon cancer which

> has speard to other parts of my body. I am 30 and scared, I dont want to

> lose my life at this age.

>

> I am no stranger to alternative. I have tried Cesium Chloride, DMSO, DCA,

> supplements/vitamins, praying, diet change, and recently went on HS to help

> with my weight loss.

>

> I have joined some forums who have said to check out Iodine, Oleander and

> LDN.

>

> Has anyone had any positive results with stage 4 cancer and iodine? does it

> matter what iodine you take? Is there a specific brand I should look out

> for?

>

> Does anyone know if it conflicts with any other alternatives?

>

> I live in Canada, is the recommended iodine easy to find here?

>

> Any info you can give me is greatly appreciated.

>

> Ben

>

May 1, 2011

Hi Ben,

I just wanted to note on the selenium (it is very important) but it is measured

in micrograms as opposed to milligrams -- it might have been a typo and you

could already know that, but it will save you a few minutes of searching if you

didn't realize. You will find most here take between 200-400 MCG per day. The

cancer protocols may call for higher doses. I also would recommend Iodoral as

an easy source and easily shipped to you. Breastcancerchoices.org does a great

job shipping it right out and they have a lot of info available -- I do know

there are probably cheaper sources of Iodoral as well.

Best of luck in your path. Definitely keep asking questions -- the people here

have a lot of knowledge on a wide range of topics related to health and

alternative therapies.

> >

> > Hey Everyone

> >

> > Im new to this group. My name is ben and I have stage 4 colon cancer which

> > has speard to other parts of my body. I am 30 and scared, I dont want to

> > lose my life at this age.

> >

> > I am no stranger to alternative. I have tried Cesium Chloride, DMSO, DCA,

> > supplements/vitamins, praying, diet change, and recently went on HS to help

> > with my weight loss.

> >

> > I have joined some forums who have said to check out Iodine, Oleander and

> > LDN.

> >

> > Has anyone had any positive results with stage 4 cancer and iodine? does it

> > matter what iodine you take? Is there a specific brand I should look out

> > for?

> >

> > Does anyone know if it conflicts with any other alternatives?

> >

> > I live in Canada, is the recommended iodine easy to find here?

> >

> > Any info you can give me is greatly appreciated.

> >

> > Ben

> >

>

May 1, 2011

Hi Ben...welcome aboard. I'm very sorry for your plight. This is a bit OT...but you should google coriolus versicolor/colon cancer. Extremely interesting stuff.

BarbF

In a message dated 4/30/2011 5:16:19 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, ben_roche1@... writes:

Do you need a prescription for lugols? I live in far northern alberta. I contacted some health food stores that Carry a form of iodine drops. No clue what the quality is like compared to lugols. Lugols seems to be the iodine of choice. This site has good info on iodinehttp://www.tbyil.com/anticancer.htmSays you can buy it herehttp://www.utopiasilver.com/products/supplements/iodine.htmIt comes in 2 ounce bottles. The site says you should take between50-100mg a day which is about 50-100 drops per day. That seems like allot does anyone know. That would be between 1-2 bottles per month.I was also advised to take selenium with it. It said 900-2000mg a day of it. Most pills are about 250mg so thats 5 pills a day. This also seems like allot.Does anyone have experience with these doses and cancer?Does anyone know of a good lugols supply in Canada? Is lugols the only iodine out there worth looking at?All info is appreciated.Ben> > > Hey Everyone> > Im new to this group. My name is ben and I have stage 4 colon cancer which has speard to other parts of my body. I am 30 and scared, I dont want to lose my life at this age. > > > > I am no stranger to alternative. I have tried Cesium Chloride, DMSO, DCA, supplements/vitamins, praying, diet change, and recently went on HS to help with my weight loss.> > > > I have joined some forums who have said to check out Iodine, Oleander and LDN. > > > > Has anyone had any positive results with stage 4 cancer and iodine? does it matter what iodine you take? Is there a specific brand I should look out for? > > > > Does anyone know if it conflicts with any other alternatives?> > > > I live in Canada, is the recommended iodine easy to find here?> > > > Any info you can give me is greatly appreciated.> > > > Ben> > > >>------------------------------------All off topic posts should go to the IodineOT group IodineOT/Commonly asked questions: http://tinyurl.com/yhnds5e

May 1, 2011

You can find Dr. Kelley's protocol and others online.

http://www.cancertutor.com/Cancer/Metabolic.html

Linn

> >

> > Hey Everyone

> >

> > Im new to this group. My name is ben and I have stage 4 colon cancer which

> > has speard to other parts of my body. I am 30 and scared, I dont want to

> > lose my life at this age.

> >

> > I am no stranger to alternative. I have tried Cesium Chloride, DMSO, DCA,

> > supplements/vitamins, praying, diet change, and recently went on HS to help

> > with my weight loss.

> >

> > I have joined some forums who have said to check out Iodine, Oleander and

> > LDN.

> >

> > Has anyone had any positive results with stage 4 cancer and iodine? does it

> > matter what iodine you take? Is there a specific brand I should look out

> > for?

> >

> > Does anyone know if it conflicts with any other alternatives?

> >

> > I live in Canada, is the recommended iodine easy to find here?

> >

> > Any info you can give me is greatly appreciated.

> >

> > Ben

> >

>

May 1, 2011

Hi Ben, there is an excellent group for cancer and LDN. They have discussed

coffee enemas there and maybe someone there could answer your question.

LDN_4_cancer/

Best to you,

>

> Hey Dr L

> Thanks for your post. I actually discovered Dr Gonalezs site from Somer's blog