Guest guest Posted May 3, 2001 Report Share Posted May 3, 2001 I always love getting information from Jim West and am constantly trying to get my mind around the idea of viruses and what they do and don't do and what they are and what they aren't. They are a very puzzling thing and not at all what we have been told as far as I can tell. Here is some latest info from Jim (he's the one with the site that explores polio and pesticides and other things! http://www6.bcity.com/harpub/ I strongly urge you to spend some time there. Sheri From: " jw " <harpub@...> " Sheri Nakken " <vaccineinfo@...> Subject: Disease Interpretation Epidemic (Edited) Date: Mon, 30 Apr 2001 22:01:57 -0400 Sure, please share this updated version, and of course I invite feedback, corrections, puzzlement. I'm glad you took the time to read it. Eventually the idea should be a few soundbytes, but for now, here it is again, a mini-article: Sheri, you wrote: " Just one question: How do you explain the contagiousness of measles, chicken pox, etc and polio from OPV - when not everyone is exposed to the same poisons at the same time. " Regarding OPV contagion, after finding how completely environmental factors have been circumvented in nearly a century of " polio " studies, I doubt that the science that proves OPV dangerous is unbiased. I admit I haven't seen anything but excerpts of vague epidemiological observations re OPV. Has anyone seen a careful study with control groups? Independantly verified? More generally, regarding measles, chicken pox, etc., I would use your words in a different context: " Not everyone " in a given epidemic gets the disease " at the same time " . The unvaccinated, organically fed, those drinking filtered water, and breathing clean air are not getting these diseases nearly as often or as severely, according to my unprofessional observations. Where are those obviously vital epidemiological studies?! When a disease epidemic hits, everyone is treated as if they are in the susceptible group! Stefan Lanka, the heretic virologist from Germany, was asked a similar question about chicken pox " spreading " , just after he had stated that viruses are harmless (during his lecture at NYC Heal in 1999). He answered that chicken pox was the result of environmental pollution and social/psychological stress. That answer didn't satisfy many in the audience who had witnessed the apparent " spread " of chicken pox through their neighborhood and among their children. Therefore, I've extended the environmental rationale for disease and brought in the concept of viruses as genetic couriers, which they are well proven to be. See Ptashe " The Genetic Switch " ; Encyclopedia Britannica " Viruses " ; " Field's Virology " , or any comprehensive book on molecular biology, or virology. This concept is well accepted for prokaryote cells (bacteria-like, no nucleus), and known for some eukaryote cells (multi-cellular organism cells), which anyway, have evolved from prokaryote cells. Viruses are information packets, nucleic acid in a protein packet. They are packets of DNA or RNA. The functions of viruses in biosystems are not at all well known, but it is clear that viruses can provide cells with information for various capabilities. It is known that cells release viruses and absorb them. Cells can interchange nucleic acid (DNA/RNA) between themselves, between other species, and even between the plant and animal kingdoms, naturally, utilizing viruses as couriers. Cells do this in order to update their metabolic capabilities, their ability to fend off environmental threats (poisons), or to survive radiation, etc. Britannica, Macropaedia (1990), p507, explains it this way: " Although viruses were originally discovered and characterized because of the diseases they cause, most viruses that infect bacteria, plants, and animals (including humans) do not cause disease. In fact, bacteriophages [bacteria viruses] may be helpful in that they rapidly transfer genetic information from one bacterium to another, and viruses of plants and animals may convey genetic information among similar species, aiding the survival of their hosts in hostile environments. " Brittanica continues with a praise of industrial biotechnolgy, and abruptly converts the probable-present into a future-made-possible by dependent consumers: " This could in the future be true for humans as well. Recombinant DNA biotechnology may allow genetic defects to be repaired by injecting afflicted persons with harmless viruses that carry and integrate functional genes to supplant defective ones. " The implication is that humans are not part of nature, however, in the next sentence Brittanica states that we humans may already utilize symbiotic viruses: " Such events may actually occur in nature in the transmission of " good " viruses from one person to another. " Amongst Britannica's mix of raw salesmanship and honest disclaimers, it appears that the medical consumer will soon (if not already) be able to buy a pill of genetically engineered ( " GE " ) viruses that carry genetic updates (made by Novartis, etc.) for a defective liver, the flu, etc. I doubt though that this GE approach to pharmaceuticals will be any more effective than " vaccines " , just another, more sophisticated evolution of the industrial medical culture of BS. Anyway, back to the core of the argument. All of us realize that " measles " and " chicken-pox " are cathartic responses to something: spent, white blood cells, pouring pus out of pustules, and a fever indicating high rates of ongoing metabolic processes. This cathartic response is not the actual cause. I don't believe I am alone in saying that the apparent disease, in the case of chicken pox, measles, etc. is the body's realization of, and response to, it's being poisoned, and the resulting response being an emergency cleansing process. Additionally, some diseases may include an uncontrolled over-response to nerve damage and hormone disruption caused by environmental factors. So, in summary: The capability for any particular cathartic " disease " process is in some people, but not all people, because viruses (which provide capability) are analogous to books (which provide capability) and libraries, you only get the book when you need it, you don't need a copy on your own shelf. You can GET IT from another person. Once some person begins the cathartic process ( " catches chicken-pox " ) in your neighborhood, then that person sneezes, kisses, or is bitten by a mosquito, and his cathartic capability is shared, via viruses. Nature has been way ahead of the latest GE technology (which will soon be sold to us as a patented discovery). It is important to demonize the mosquito/virus transmission cycle in order to be able to sell the new GE pharmaceuticals, and that's what's being done in New York City with arboviruses. Sneezes and sex have already been thoroughly demonized. In order to sell the next generation of pharmaceuticals, the medical industrial complex will be forced to ignore, contradict, and reconceptualize the entire last 100 years of viropathology. Just watch how it will unravel. Of course, they will handle it well, with their domination of the media. Jim West http://www.geocities.com/harpub -------------------------------------------------------- Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA moderator Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & UK 530-478-1242 Voicemail in US http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm " All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men ( & women) do nothing " ...Edmund Burke ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE. Well Within's Earth Mysteries & Sacred Site Tours http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin International Tours, Homestudy Courses, ANTHRAX & OTHER Vaccine Dangers Education, Homeopathic Education CEU's for nurses, Books & Multi-Pure Water Filters Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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