Crohns --a disease from cow's milk?

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I thought the reason excess protein leaches calcium from our bones is that

protein is acidic and calcium is a base, and the calcium is leached out to

neutralize the acid.

Is that incorrect? Sandy from Alaska

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Crohns --a disease from cow's milk?

The disease is not " passed on " per se, it is a reaction to the lactose in

the cow's hormone that is the fluid that is " MILK " ... The composition of

the liquid is not set up to be " absorbed " by the intestinal tract of other

mammals... The mucus lining is compromised by the material composition of

the " MILK " ...

Also, beef or the over consumption of any animal proteins will deplete " bone

mass " ... This has been know since the 30's.... It was also not

publicized due to the fact the at " Dairy Industry " lobbies congress with

millions of dollars annually to suppress this information..

Consumption of animal protein actually causes a response in the white blood

cells of humans to raise to levels that are similar to the response seen

during " infections " . It also raises the uric acid levels of the blood so

high that the organic calcium of the body (in bones and blood) must be

leached out in order to buffer it through the kidneys.. (If this were not

done, kidney failure would be eminent... In fact, most deaths are caused by

fluid retention, i.e. congestive heart failure, pneumonia,... drowning the

victim.. All due to kidney failure.)

The uses of calcium supplementation or " drinking cow's milk " are in-organic

sources of calcium... The " so-called " organic sources of calcium are

either minerals from the EARTH, egg shells of organically feed chickens or

oyster shells.. I do not recall the last time that I saw a rock on the

ground that I felt would be " tasty " ... The same goes for poultry egg

shells or oyster shells.. They are far too hard for my to chew.. They

would not digest if I swallowed pieces of them... Eating sand or rocks is

considered " PICA " ... as is eating soil.... There is a need for minerals

in an individual that finds " earth " or egg shells as eatable... But

minerals from supplements are just ROCKS no matter what the source.. We

need vegetables and fruits to gain the proper MINERALS...not supplements or

milk products....

A cow becomes 1,600 pounds in 26 months.... They do not eat meat or drink

milk past their weaning period.... They are ruminants.... (having two

stomachs) but that does not mean much.. They have only one set of

teeth...lower... And we have both sets... But they are similar... All

flat as is Gorillas and Orangutans, both of which are vegetarians... They

are all muscle...no fat... They cannot swim because of that fact.. No

fat...no buoyancy.. They sink...

Humans are not meant to be so muscular, but we are meant to be almost that

lean... These animals do not DRINK MILK except their mother's as infants

to the age of maybe 3 years.. They do not have Crohns Disease either...

----- Original Message -----

From: Lady Lumbee <ladylumbee@...>

> <<there was a news article yesterday or the day before that said

> American dairy cows have a disease that causes crohn's in humans. It is

> not something that agribusiness wants publicized, but the indications

> are that the huge increase in crohn's diagnoses is due to this disease.

> Cattle do not show symptoms for a dozen years...there is no cure...and

> it is passed on in the milk and meat.

>

> I think it was in Sunday's Sarasota herald (owned by the NY Times

> syndicate) so maybe you can find the article.>>

[Guest guest]

Check out Dr McDougall

http://www.drmcdougall.com

I have 3 of his books and a cookbook, it's essentially low-fat strict

vegetarian... but he describes how many diseases are caused by

diet... More info in his books than on his website, which is to be

expected, but I bought all 4 books on Half.com for under $20,

shipping included.

Also if you check out the message board there is at least one person

with a child with Crohn's that has kept her problem under control

following the McDougall plan.

[Guest guest]

My take on this:

I am a Christian and this will come from a Christian perspective, afterall,

my spirituality is my being. It is who I am as much as being a

Lumbee/Croatan Indian is. Just do not want any that are not Christian being

offended.

God laid out some very plain and specific dietary laws. They include some

things we find strange (or at least some do) but science has proven reasons

for lots of them. Like " Do not eat meat with the milk of its mother " (if

eating beef do not have milk, sour cream, butter, etc) There is some sort of

chemical in the milk that interferes with proper digestion.

Do not take the bird that sits on the nest from which you take eggs. You'll

loose your source of eggs. Sorta like the boy cutting open the hen that laid

the golden egg.

Do not eat anything from the sea that does not have scales. Why?? If it

don't have scales it is usually a scavenger.

Do not eat scavengers. This is obvious.

The laws go on. We are to completely drain all blood from animals before

eating. but the most important one IMHO is to eat in moderation. God warns

us not to be gluttons many times in many areas of our lives.

If you look at other primitive cultures you will see that the milk they

drink is from smaller animals such as goats.

We do only need 15% of our daily diet to made up of acid forming foods such

as nuts, grains and meats.

So, by saying that eating any amount of meat will kill you, are you saying

God, by telling us to eat meat (under certain guidelines) is telling us to

commit slow suicide??

Ellen

ladylumbee@...

I do not suffer from my insanity***I ENJOY every second of it.

hehe haha hoho

[Guest guest]

Women, especially, cannot have an animal based

> diet... We must be vegetarians by age 30, otherwise we shorten our lives

> by 40 years... Raising our children as vegetarians would eliminate all of

> that worry...

My husband's grandmother ate meat, did not suffer from osteoporosis and

lived to be 90. Are you saying if she had quite eating meat at least by age

30 she would have lived to be 130??

During the depressions she fed the children before herself and developed

pellagra. They did say just one large serving of collards per week would

have stopped it.

Ellen

ladylumbee@...

I do not suffer from my insanity***I ENJOY every second of it.

hehe haha hoho

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Phyllis, for taking the time to answer my question.

I hope you are right about being a vegetarian, because I've been one since

1978 (most of the time, anyway). And my children were (attempted to be)

raised that way - one still is ( and he's in college), although the 14 year

old switched to being an utter carnivore when he was around 9.

Sandy

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IS FOR GENERAL INFORMATION PURPOSES ONLY AND IS NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS

REFLECTING THE KNOWLEDGE OR OPINIONS OF THE PUBLISHER, AND IS NOT TO BE

CONSTRUED OR INTENDED AS PROVIDING MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE DECISION

WHETHER OR NOT TO VACCINATE IS AN IMPORTANT AND COMPLEX ISSUE AND SHOULD BE

MADE BY YOU, AND YOU ALONE, IN CONSULTATION WITH YOUR HEALTH CARE PROVIDER.

Crohns --a disease from cow's milk?

Yes, Sandy,

This is correct.. The calcium in our bones and the minute amounts that are

in our blood are used to buffer the acid through the kidneys.. This is the

reason of osteoporosis...not a lack of estrogen as is touted by the

pharmaceutical industry. Women, especially, cannot have an animal based

diet... We must be vegetarians by age 30, otherwise we shorten our lives

by 40 years... Raising our children as vegetarians would eliminate all of

that worry...

Thanks for asking and reading my piece,

Phyllis

----- Original Message -----

From: Sandy Mintz <sandym@...>

> I thought the reason excess protein leaches calcium from our bones is that

> protein is acidic and calcium is a base, and the calcium is leached out to

> neutralize the acid.

>

> Is that incorrect? Sandy from Alaska

[Guest guest]

Hi, can you point me where you got that information about life span?

>From: " Phyllis " <georgic@...>

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>Subject: Crohns --a disease from cow's milk?

>Date: Tue, 29 May 2001 04:13:44 -0700

>

>Yes, Sandy,

>

>This is correct.. The calcium in our bones and the minute amounts that are

>in our blood are used to buffer the acid through the kidneys.. This is the

>reason of osteoporosis...not a lack of estrogen as is touted by the

>pharmaceutical industry. Women, especially, cannot have an animal based

>diet... We must be vegetarians by age 30, otherwise we shorten our lives

>by 40 years... Raising our children as vegetarians would eliminate all of

>that worry...

>

>Thanks for asking and reading my piece,

>

>Phyllis

>----- Original Message -----

>From: Sandy Mintz <sandym@...>

>

>

>

> > I thought the reason excess protein leaches calcium from our bones is

>that

> > protein is acidic and calcium is a base, and the calcium is leached out

>to

> > neutralize the acid.

> >

> > Is that incorrect? Sandy from Alaska

>

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----- Original Message -----

From: Lashanna Small <lashannasmall@...>

> Hi, can you point me where you got that information about life span?

>

>

> >From: " Phyllis " <georgic@...>

, Sandy,

> >

> >This is correct.. The calcium in our bones and the minute amounts that

are

> >in our blood are used to buffer the acid through the kidneys.. This is

the

> >reason of osteoporosis...not a lack of estrogen as is touted by the

> >pharmaceutical industry. Women, especially, cannot have an animal based

> >diet... We must be vegetarians by age 30, otherwise we shorten our

lives

> >by 40 years... Raising our children as vegetarians would eliminate all of

> >that worry...

> >

> >Thanks for asking and reading my piece,

> >

> >Phyllis

> >----- Original Message -----

> >From: Sandy Mintz <sandym@...>

> >

> >

> >

> > > I thought the reason excess protein leaches calcium from our bones is

> >that

> > > protein is acidic and calcium is a base, and the calcium is leached

out

> >to

> > > neutralize the acid.

> > >

> > > Is that incorrect? Sandy from Alaska

> >

>

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