Guest guest Posted April 17, 2001 Report Share Posted April 17, 2001 does she have gbs? Kathy Re: Newborn eye ointment : < I will wait until I go into labour before calling.> : : Does anyone know how long is safe to wait after the water breaks? My cousin had planned a homebirth too, her water broke, and 24 hours later her labor had not started and she had a cesarean. : Mara : : : Vaccinations wrote: : > : > > rule? If your water breaks and you are not in hard labor by 24 hours, : > > the : > > midwife is supposed to transport you to the hospital. My midwife let : > > me : > > slide to 30 hours, but then off to the hospital we went. Worse : > > mistake I : > : > Mostly a lurker here, luckily my water broke after I was in hard labour, : > and already at 6 cm, but if I ever have my water break and don't go into : > labour right away (or aren't in labour already) I will wait until I go : > into labour before calling. As long as I don't bathe, don't stick : > foreign dirty objects up inside, don't have other people's hands with : > foreign germs poking up there, there is usually no problem. : > : > Fio. : > : __________________________________________________________________ : Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Webmail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ : : Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2001 Report Share Posted April 17, 2001 GREAT! thankyou thankyou thankyou Kathy Re: Newborn eye ointment : --- K & T <kcumming@...> wrote: : > can someone get a hold of a waiver and post it? those of us without : > access could use it as an example.. : > Kathy : : I will be more than happy to ask my mdiwife for a copy at my next appt. : (First week of May.) : : ~ : : __________________________________________________ : Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2001 Report Share Posted April 17, 2001 > > rule? If your water breaks and you are not in hard labor by 24 hours, > > the > > midwife is supposed to transport you to the hospital. My midwife let > > me > > slide to 30 hours, but then off to the hospital we went. Worse > > mistake I > Mostly a lurker here, luckily my water broke after I was in hard labour, > and already at 6 cm, but if I ever have my water break and don't go into > labour right away (or aren't in labour already) I will wait until I go > into labour before calling. As long as I don't bathe, don't stick > foreign dirty objects up inside, don't have other people's hands with > foreign germs poking up there, there is usually no problem. > Fio. Original Message ----- From: Fiona & Steve Dionne <fiosteve@...> <Vaccinations > Sent: Tuesday, April 17, 2001 7:43 PM Subject: Re: Newborn eye ointment : : > what about GBS? : > Kathy : > : > , there is usually no problem. : > : : > : Fio. : : Huh? Where did this come from? I don't get what you're quoting except : my name! :-( : : Fio. : : Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2001 Report Share Posted April 17, 2001 Oh routine AIDS testing is another issue that gets my blood boiling! I don't do routine AIDS testing. I don't like it will show up on insurance records and they're ARE false positives. Pretty much anything routine sets me off. I hate the one size fits all approach to all women. There are exceptions but ...I digress :-) sherri wrote: > Most OBs generally test you for those STDs as well as AIDS. I know my midwife > did. And they asked me at the end of my pregnancy if I wanted to be tested and I > said no. also did not receive eye drops. > > Sherri > > " Larsen, Licensed Midwife " wrote: > > > Oh my gosh! I'm so sorry! I didn't realize how much this effected me! WE have > > choices today ! I guess that's why I chose this profession, to give families > > choices. I think my big issue lies in the fact that if you and your husband > > are in a monogamous relationship, then there's no chance of gonorrhea or > > chylamida period! Plus, I have an issue with petroleum products and that's > > exactly the eye drop base. I also have a big issue with the over use of > > antibiotics. The eye ointment not only kills the bad bacteria (MAYBE) but the > > good as well. So they kill ALL the bacteria in the eye, good and if there's > > any bad and NOW we have a " clean plate " for all kinds of bacteria to invade > > the eyes. There's controversy surrounding the fact that erythromycin may not > > even be effective against chlymadia and gonorrhea anyway! > > > > My mantra will always be to " inform and let THEM make the choice! " > > > > wrote: > > > > > --- " Larsen, Licensed Midwife " <midwife1@...> wrote: > > > > I'd change midwives. I agree, this is NOT a small issue. Why > > > > compromise > > > > what's important to you when it comes to your birth and your > > > > children? I hate > > > > that! I would never do something like this to one of my clients > > > > especially > > > > over eye ointment. People come to midwives so they can have more > > > > choices. > > > > What makes her any better than and MD? Oh this obviously pushed my > > > > button! > > > > > > , this fired you up as much as the Playtex/mold issue fired me up! > > > LOL! > > > > > > ~ > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2001 Report Share Posted April 17, 2001 AND all YOUR choices are wiped away. It's the whole legal issue and big brother stepping in to take over when I personally don't agree with Western medicine and how they treat the 'sick' body. THEY know best < please>. Sorry I'm so angry. I don't know why the thought of choices being taken away has me angrier than usual. Shelby wrote: > Not just breasfeeding, but AZT. How would you like to have to give your > newborn azt because some [highly inaccurate] test decides that you have > some virus that may or may not cause aids? > > http://credence.org/news/warningaidstest2.htm > http://aidsmyth.addr.com/index.htm click on " for women " at the top > S. > > HolisticMomma@... wrote: > > > Well, your hope was in vain! Why? During the first part of my > > pregnancy I > > was with a group of hospital midwives. I think they did test me for > > HIV. Is > > it because if you turn up positive, there's that whole breastfeeding > > issue? > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2001 Report Share Posted April 17, 2001 < I will wait until I go into labour before calling.> Does anyone know how long is safe to wait after the water breaks? My cousin had planned a homebirth too, her water broke, and 24 hours later her labor had not started and she had a cesarean. Mara Vaccinations wrote: > > > rule? If your water breaks and you are not in hard labor by 24 hours, > > the > > midwife is supposed to transport you to the hospital. My midwife let > > me > > slide to 30 hours, but then off to the hospital we went. Worse > > mistake I > > Mostly a lurker here, luckily my water broke after I was in hard labour, > and already at 6 cm, but if I ever have my water break and don't go into > labour right away (or aren't in labour already) I will wait until I go > into labour before calling. As long as I don't bathe, don't stick > foreign dirty objects up inside, don't have other people's hands with > foreign germs poking up there, there is usually no problem. > > Fio. > __________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Webmail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2001 Report Share Posted April 17, 2001 --- K & T <kcumming@...> wrote: > can someone get a hold of a waiver and post it? those of us without > access could use it as an example.. > Kathy I will be more than happy to ask my mdiwife for a copy at my next appt. (First week of May.) ~ __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2001 Report Share Posted April 17, 2001 In my experience it depends on the midwife (docs tend to have a pretty rigid protocol -- 24 or even 12 hours). My water broke early and my homebirth midwife was willing to wait as long as I wanted; she induced me with castor oil after three days, because I felt nervous. She had another client who went five days before starting spontaneously. But I have spoken to midwives who would not wait longer than 24hrs. NB: if it happened again, I might wait even longer before inducing. My labor stalled at 9cm, and I ended up in the hosp. with pitocin; I've always suspected that my body simply wasn't quite ready to go, and that even the " natural " castor oil induction was rushing things (hence the failure to progress). tte >From: maramerica@... >Reply-Vaccinations >Vaccinations >Subject: Re: Newborn eye ointment >Date: Tue, 17 Apr 2001 15:16:40 -0400 > >< I will wait until I go into labour before calling.> > >Does anyone know how long is safe to wait after the water breaks? My cousin > had planned a homebirth too, her water broke, and 24 hours later her >labor had not started and she had a cesarean. >Mara > > >Vaccinations wrote: > > > > > rule? If your water breaks and you are not in hard labor by 24 hours, > > > the > > > midwife is supposed to transport you to the hospital. My midwife let > > > me > > > slide to 30 hours, but then off to the hospital we went. Worse > > > mistake I > > > > Mostly a lurker here, luckily my water broke after I was in hard labour, > > and already at 6 cm, but if I ever have my water break and don't go into > > labour right away (or aren't in labour already) I will wait until I go > > into labour before calling. As long as I don't bathe, don't stick > > foreign dirty objects up inside, don't have other people's hands with > > foreign germs poking up there, there is usually no problem. > > > > Fio. > > >__________________________________________________________________ >Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Webmail account today at >http://webmail.netscape.com/ _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2001 Report Share Posted April 17, 2001 > what about GBS? > Kathy > > , there is usually no problem. > : > : Fio. Huh? Where did this come from? I don't get what you're quoting except my name! :-( Fio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2001 Report Share Posted April 17, 2001 > Does anyone know how long is safe to wait after the water breaks? My > cousin had planned a homebirth too, her water broke, and 24 hours > later her labor had not started and she had a cesarean. I think of it this way: if your water breaks at 20 weeks, they do EVERYTHING humanly possible to keep you from going into labour for as LONG as possible. Yes, they do give antibiotics sometimes if they're doing vaginal exams, but in genereal, I think their idea is to keep the mom bedridden, no baths, and I HOPE they don't do any vaginal exams as long as true labour hasn't started. So WHY on earth they'd want to start a labour where the water breaks at 38 weeks but doesn't go into labour right away is beyond me. It's more of a CYA thing I think, than anything else. I.e. there is more chance of a baby dying from premature delivery than infection at 20 weeks. There is probably more chance of a baby dying of infection than induction at 38 weeks, but it is still probably VERY small chance, because if it were a big chance, they wouldn't chance it on a preemie baby who is very vulnerable. JMHO and NTBCAMA of course. Fio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2001 Report Share Posted April 18, 2001 Here in Arizona we have clients that transfer care to us and every time they get a copy of their lab work, they're ALWYS oblivious to the fact that the OB did an AIDS test. wrote: > --- K & T <kcumming@...> wrote: > > can someone get a hold of a waiver and post it? those of us without > > access could use it as an example.. > > Kathy > > I will be more than happy to ask my mdiwife for a copy at my next appt. > (First week of May.) > > ~ > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2001 Report Share Posted April 18, 2001 > In my experience it depends on the midwife (docs tend to have a pretty rigid > protocol -- 24 or even 12 hours). My water broke early and my homebirth > midwife was willing to wait as long as I wanted; she induced me with castor > oil after three days, because I felt nervous. She had another client who > went five days before starting spontaneously. My M/W would not let me go past 24 hours, because they are very much affiliated with Québec medical plan...they can't do twins, breech, or anything out of the " ordinary " . I'm not even sure if they'd accept someone who was trying for a VBA(several)C (like VBA3C). As long as I knew I was GBS-, I would not call before going into actual labour. Fio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 18, 2001 Report Share Posted April 18, 2001 > > Mostly a lurker here, luckily my water broke after I was in hard > labour, > > and already at 6 cm, > : > what about GBS? OH, I see what you meant. I guess yeah, I'd perhaps change my course of action for that...I'd look into what my options were naturally, anyhow (I know that people who are that and know it can take colloidal silver ahead of time, but don't know what the options are if you only find out nearer delivery...?). Fio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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