Re: Whopping Cough? Anyone online now?

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In a message dated 3/31/01 9:28:11 AM Eastern Standard Time,

annette@... writes:

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What makes him think it is Pertussis? Not disputing the fact that

it could be P, just curious why he believes this. I also noticed you didn't

say that *you* believed it was whooping cough =) At any rate, your

homeopathy books should give you enough guidance to decide if it is whooping

cough or just a really bad cold if you can't get ahold of this homeopath you

mentioned.

I'll repost an email from a list member that contains some remedies in

the chance that it is whooping cough

CherylO in Michigan's UP!

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How old is your son? Do have a naturopath or homeopath nearby? Health food

store?? My son had it last summer--(he is almost 7 now)---strangely enough

no one else got it. But we survived it, and treated it with no drugs.

E-mail me if you want......Good luck!

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Annette,

When my son had it it started out sounding like a bad cold. Since his colds

usually hit with a round of croup, or at least a croupy sounding cough, I

treated it accordingly--honey/lemon, vaporizor, steamy bathroom to calm

cough....the steam was pretty much ineffective, as it is not recommended

treatment for pertussis. That was the first clue. Second, it didn't really

seem to change. Definitely worse at nite. But the cough went on thru the

day. By the second week I was wondering why this 'cold' didnt' seem to be

running it's usual course, and I called my naturopath. Took him in for a

culture at the end of the second week---had been using echinacea/goldenseal

tincture, vitamin C, zinc, Vicks on his chest..all the usual cold remedies we

use. Had to go to the hospital--lab to get the culture done, ordered by my

Naturopath. The results came back a few days later--negative, but the cough

continued. I read, and we were told my our Nat. that we maybe missed the

ideal " window " for getting the culture done---it is not 100% accurate anyway,

and missing the 'window' throws things off. I was kind of glad that the

results said NO, because he would've become a statistic! We do not

vaccinate, and of course I had visions of state officials knocking on my

door! He never did get real 'sick' with it---just had the annoying cough

with the characteristic 'whoop' that seemed to go on forever. We continued

the vit C......and by the 4th or 5th week added in a homeopathic cough syrup

that loosened up the cough. 3 days on the cough syrup was about what it took

to get the cough really loose--which eased him up! We also did mustard

packs....he didn't mind it too much, and that helped too. Overall, we pretty

much just kept going. The cough was annoying, and I was careful to make sure

he wasn't overdoing it as exertion seemed to make him cough more. It was a

little hard being in public and he'd cough, and people would stare. I didn't

broadcast what I thought he had---told people who questioned that I wasn't

sure, and that maybe it was seasonal allergies (although he'd never had them

before--I still don't discount that, I guess we will see when summer hits

again). Everywhere we went he had a water bottle...and I stayed where I

could keep an eye on him....sometimes he'd cough to the point of vomiting!

I'd had a friend a few years earlier whose young girls both had

pertussis.....lasted for a whole summer.....and she'd told me the same

thing--just go day by day, keep treating it, it eventually goes away. Not so

passive, but was not dangerous in either of our cases. She also said the

cough was mostly just annoying. While my Naturopath still views the culture

as possibly correct, I watched my kid cough---3 months/100 days--started the

2nd week of June, and ended just after school resumed (Sept), which was

exactly what I'd read about pertussis. He's had about 3 colds since then,

with one bout of croup in January, but recover from all has been quicker, and

the colds are much less frequent than before---seems like he used to get the

croup every-other-month since he was born! I still would rather he got what

he got, than have the vax.........and possibly a horrible, life-taxing

reaction!

I sure hope this is not what your little guy has! Hope he is feeling better

soon!

Dolly in MT

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Wow! Thanks everyone for your swift responses. I'm printing

everything out now.

I'll try to quickly answer all questions here. For some reason my

emails aren't coming through on the vaccine list, I'm having to

retrieve them from the web.

First my son is 4. I do not believe it's whopping cough but it is

terrible and he does rattle. However, my husband has been sitting

with him while I'm doing the research.

We gave him Antimonium Tart 30x (2 tablets)

That was the remedy recommended for whopping cough and it happens to

be one of the few things I have on hand. It's only 7:30 am here, and

the nature stores are not yet open. I've got a call in the Sherri and

a homeopath in the area, so far I can't reach anyone.

Anyone with anything to add can email me directly or call (916) 961-

2139. I do not have aol instant messenger. I do have messenger

TweetAnnette is my ID

Thank you all for your help.

Annette

> In a message dated 3/31/01 9:28:11 AM Eastern Standard Time,

> annette@r... writes:

>

>

> >

>

> What makes him think it is Pertussis? Not disputing the

fact that

> it could be P, just curious why he believes this. I also noticed

you didn't

> say that *you* believed it was whooping cough =) At any rate,

your

> homeopathy books should give you enough guidance to decide if it is

whooping

> cough or just a really bad cold if you can't get ahold of this

homeopath you

> mentioned.

> I'll repost an email from a list member that contains some

remedies in

> the chance that it is whooping cough

> CherylO in Michigan's UP!

>

>

>

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I remember my parents and doctor thinking I had it several times when I was

young. I never actually had it though.

Mom bundled me up in bed, gave me lots of clear fluids and I ate a LOT of

soup. When my children start coming down with the same cough I did I give

them apple cider vinegar/honey/lemon juice in equal parts. Tastes pretty

bad, unless you cut down the apple cider vinegar a little, but it has been

very effective in our house. Because it contains no drugs they can take it

anytime they start coughing.

Hope he feels better soon.

Cheryl

Whopping Cough? Anyone online now?

Help! My husband is convinced my son has whopping cough. He sounds

terrible. I don't have a homeopath and couldn't get an answer with the

one

I called. Does anyone know what to do? We are non vacc'ers.

Annette Hall

(916) 961-2139

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At 06:25 AM 03/31/2001 -0800, you wrote:

>Help! My husband is convinced my son has whopping cough. He sounds

>terrible. I don't have a homeopath and couldn't get an answer with the one

>I called. Does anyone know what to do? We are non vacc'ers.

>

>Annette Hall

> (916) 961-2139

>

>

916 - Sacramento area???

You have to find a homeopath.

There are dozens within 100 miles - Sonoma, Sacramento, Nevada City (Betty

has been my homeopath till I moved

http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/STEVELIST.htm

The list with the homeopaths.

So he sounds terrible - how is he actually other than sound?

Sheri

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At 03:27 PM 03/31/2001 -0000, you wrote:

>Wow! Thanks everyone for your swift responses. I'm printing

>everything out now.

>

>I'll try to quickly answer all questions here. For some reason my

>emails aren't coming through on the vaccine list, I'm having to

>retrieve them from the web.

>

>First my son is 4. I do not believe it's whopping cough but it is

>terrible and he does rattle. However, my husband has been sitting

>with him while I'm doing the research.

>

>We gave him Antimonium Tart 30x (2 tablets)

>

>That was the remedy recommended for whopping cough and it happens to

>be one of the few things I have on hand. It's only 7:30 am here, and

>the nature stores are not yet open. I've got a call in the Sherri

ME?? I live in Wales now and it is just voicemail there.

Call and find one of the homeopaths on the list. But you have only said he

sounds bad - tell me other symptoms. If he just sounds bad, that isn't

enough to prescribe on. Thre is something going around (if you believe in

that) and it is characterized by a terrible cough.

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Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA

Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & UK

530-478-1242 Voicemail

http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm

" All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men ( &

women) do nothing " ...Edmund Burke

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DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE.

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Dear Sheri,

Thanks for the call. He sounds hoarse right now and tight in the

chest. The coughing was much worse in the early morning hours. In

fact he woke up yesterday morning coughing (not nearly so forceful)

until he vomited.

He is dry though, no runny nose, not coughing up anything. The vomit

contains muchus, I wasn't right there, my husband was, but Zachary

said it was green. When asked how he feels, he says fine.

He was terribly warm to the touch earlier this morning. The fever is

now gone. In the last hour he has started sneezing regularly.

I hope that answers your question. When my husband wakes up I'll try

to get more infor. I'm worried about tomorrow morning now.

Annette

> The list with the homeopaths.

> So he sounds terrible - how is he actually other than sound?

> Sheri

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At 06:42 PM 03/31/2001 -0000, you wrote:

>Dear Sheri,

>

>Thanks for the call. He sounds hoarse right now and tight in the

>chest. The coughing was much worse in the early morning hours. In

>fact he woke up yesterday morning coughing (not nearly so forceful)

>until he vomited.

>

>He is dry though, no runny nose, not coughing up anything. The vomit

>contains muchus, I wasn't right there, my husband was, but Zachary

>said it was green. When asked how he feels, he says fine.

When there is drainage down the throat from nose or sinuses it is swallowed

and the emesis will have mucus.

Believe him.

>

>He was terribly warm to the touch earlier this morning. The fever is

>now gone. In the last hour he has started sneezing regularly.

Interesting! As long as it is coming out - cough, sneeze, vomit - that is

great. As long as he is drinking and peeing that is great.

And if he says he is fine, believe him.

>

>I hope that answers your question. When my husband wakes up I'll try

>to get more infor. I'm worried about tomorrow morning now.

He may be over it. If not, use the Antinomonium again in water as I said

but only if he gets worse again or seems stuck

--------------------------------------------------------

Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA

Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & UK

530-478-1242 Voicemail

http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm

" All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men ( &

women) do nothing " ...Edmund Burke

ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE

DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE.

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Is it a seal- bark cough? it could be croup.

" A hundred years from now, it will not matter what my bank-account was, the

sort of house I lived in, or the make of car I drove. But the world may be

different, because I was important in the life of a child. "

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