ringworm advice needed homeopathic reply

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Phyllis,

Since I have been reading the boards, I knew I did not want to suppress it. She's only 1!!! Has had no TB testing or any kind of meds and is still breastfeeding. We have been putting Propolis Salve with Vitamin E on it and the list of ingredients are wheat germ oil,safflower oil,tocopherol acetate(Vit. E), Aloe Vera Gel, Beeswax, propolis, and clove oil. I still don't understand how she contacted this...oh,my, I just remember reading TB was going around? Perhaps her body is functioning and she is getting it out of her system? Is there something else that could look like ringworm? See, I even question my husband! I would have emailed you personally with this but don't see your complete email address...maybe someone can use the public info. later. I will get on the horn tomorrow and find me a homeopath!

I am not a medical doctor,nor do I portray one on t.v.!(But my husband,Mike,is!!!)

Laurie>Bucyrus,Ohio

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>Phyllis,

>Since I have been reading the boards, I knew I did not want to suppress

it. She's only 1!!! Has had no TB testing or any kind of meds and is

still breastfeeding. We have been putting Propolis Salve with Vitamin E on

it and the list of ingredients are wheat germ oil,safflower oil,tocopherol

acetate(Vit. E), Aloe Vera Gel, Beeswax, propolis, and clove oil. I still

don't understand how she contacted this...oh,my, I just remember reading

TB was going around? Perhaps her body is functioning and she is getting it

out of her system? Is there something else that could look like ringworm?

See, I even question my husband! I would have emailed you personally with

this but don't see your complete email address...maybe someone can use the

public info. later. I will get on the horn tomorrow and find me a homeopath!

I'm sure when Phyllis gets back on she'll answer.

But its not about having TB, or being exposed to TB - it is an inherited

kind of thing - what we call in homeopathy, a miasm.

As Phyllis said TB tests can cause it to come out more. But it is an

inherited thing and a homeopath can work with it to nip it in the bud!

http://www.homeopathy-cures.com/referral.htm

to find a homeopathy - look at surrounding states too - it is worth a drive

for your intial appointment - many times thereafter consults can be done by

phone. If there is no one near you go for one further, its better than

none at all.

(PS Starre isn't there anymore - not sure where he went!)

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-I'm still figuring out how to do all this stuff...sorry about my

pics and all...had dh read your reply and something about this on

homeopaths on line...this is so hard for him as it contradicts

everything he had been taught. And my midife,who I admire and trust

completely, says this is bunk! But my gut says " What if they're wrong

and your daughter is damaged even more? " So, after a few phone calls

(found Starre but he's not accepting new patients) I have an

appointment with Karin Cseak,DO CCH,in March 9. A lot of money,to be

sure but isn't my child's health worth it? And I plan on taking us

all,even dh, one by one(if I like her...if not,will find another

homeopath!) A 2 hour drive. And dh said he could be wrong...it may

not be ringworm and his whole treatment of the cases he sees could be

wrong...how I admire a man who says " I could be wrong... "

Laurie<Bucyrus,Ohio

In Vaccinations@y..., " Phyllis " <georgic@s...> wrote:

> NatureIn homeopathy we know ringworm as a Tubercular misam...

Meaning that a Tubercular remedy will aid the immune system to be

boosted in order to clear the misam.... thus the ringworm from the

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He admitted he could be wrong. I sincerely hope so as this is my baby and if Sheri is right, this scares me. I try not to think about it...acquired diseases I hope my kids get but something genetically inherited? Nothing I can do about that except consult a homeopath. Does that make any sense? Not that I can do anything about measles or whatever if they acquire them but that seems more natural...even though it shouldn't as this is genetic,like inheriting grandma's nose! Still, I hadn't read anything about this type of stuff so am completely unprepared. My oldest child got ringworm last summer while we had a dog...dh got topical cream for her but she wasn't religious about applying it and still has the "ring". So now I wonder what damage was done to her? The baby's isn't a ring...it goes clear across the crease in the back of both of her knees. So we shall see in a few weeks after our visit with a homeopath! This just feels right as did not-vaxxing,sleep-sharing,bfing, holding the babies as much as possibleresponing to cries, and demand feeding.

I am not a medical doctor,nor do I portray one on t.v.!(But my husband,Mike,is!!!)

Laurie>Bucyrus,Ohiomother to (13),Donovan(8),Buck(4),Luke(3), and (1)2 csecs,3 VBACs(1 partial waterbirth,1 complete waterbirth)

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----- Original Message -----

From: DeVan

: Re: ringworm advice needed homeopathic reply

I used to nanny for a little girl who had eczema or some skin thing behind her knees, that looked just like ringworm. I'm not saying that your husband is wrong, but maybe it looks similar to something else...

Sharon, Quakertown PA

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At 09:33 AM 02/24/2001 -0000, you wrote:

>-I'm still figuring out how to do all this stuff...sorry about my

>pics and all...had dh read your reply and something about this on

>homeopaths on line...this is so hard for him as it contradicts

>everything he had been taught. And my midife,who I admire and trust

>completely, says this is bunk! But my gut says " What if they're wrong

>and your daughter is damaged even more? " So, after a few phone calls

>(found Starre but he's not accepting new patients) I have an

>appointment with Karin Cseak,DO CCH,in March 9. A lot of money,to be

>sure but isn't my child's health worth it? And I plan on taking us

>all,even dh, one by one(if I like her...if not,will find another

>homeopath!) A 2 hour drive. And dh said he could be wrong...it may

>not be ringworm and his whole treatment of the cases he sees could be

>wrong...how I admire a man who says " I could be wrong... "

>Laurie<Bucyrus,Ohio

YEs, that is great that he is open minded.

I know it is hard for him - it was for all of us in the medical arena who

have come to see things differently.

I have an article I wrote with links to more info on homeopathy

http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/homeo.htm

I have a highly regarded MD/homeopath in Maine who would be happy to talk

with him if he'd like to chat.

" will taylor " <wtaylor@...>

Have your husband read Will's story! Will is an amazing man, doctor and

homeopath!

http://www.simillibus.com/about.html

http://www.simillibus.com/

Give the info to your midwife too and have her email me!

Sheri

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Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA

Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & UK

530-478-1242 Voicemail

http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm

" All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men ( &

women) do nothing " ...Edmund Burke

ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE

DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE.

Well Within's Earth Mysteries & Sacred Site Tours

http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin

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Education, Homeopathic Education

CEU's for nurses, Books & Multi-Pure Water Filters

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Dear Laurie,

She was probably not exposed to Tuberculosis... It is most likely a miasm. This is a Predisposition to a disease due to a genetic tag of a disease from a direct ancestor.... This means that you or your child's father has a parental link (parent, grand parent, great grand parent, great-great grand parent) that may be several generations back who had a disease that has many stages that could allow them to live with this ailment for 30 to 40 years before it destroys them... Each child that they conceive will have the tag of the disease in whatever stage the parent was in at the time... The diseases are tagged into the RNA/DNA chain.... All diseases come from tuberculosis, syphilis and gonorrhea.

Each of the different "childhood disease" that we acquire actually aid us to release these miasms from our system cleaning our RNA/DNA that we pass from one generation to the next. Vaccines are suppressing the immune system's natural response to clean itself of these miasms.... Vaccines suppress leading to other deeper and dangerous aliments and disorders that maim, kill, and disable which we know as "Vaccine Damage" or "Vaccine Adverse Events". When the parents' have been suppressed with vaccines they pass that suppression onto their children.... If they have the natural disease, they pass on the natural immunity. When this immunity, that is a natural form is passed from on generation to the next the disease seems to fade and epidemics are no longer seen. There may be a few cases of the diseases that occur each year such as in scarlet/rheumatic fever or bubonic plague. The general population has the tag that does not allow them to succumb to this disease... It does not mean that they have not been exposed... It means that they are not responding adversely... They may have a few symptoms that trigger the immune system to respond in such a subtle manner that there is no problem noticed by the individual but the disease is dealt wit and a natural immunity is reinforced for them and the future generations.....

In this new world of suppressive therapies of antibiotics, steroids, chemotherapies, radiation, vaccinations and even the over uses of mega nutritional supplementation, we see sicker and sicker folks due to the fact that the immune system is given a trigger to "stop working" while the medication is being used in its place. Such as chemotherapies like AZT cocktails for AIDS have brought down the immune systems of these patients even further then they already are from the "immune deficiency" making their immune systems even more DEFICIENT. Without and immune system diseases that are in their miasmatic terrain are now able to take hold and destroy them.....

Remember that disease is everywhere.... It is not the germ.... but your personal responses to it.... If your immune system is suppressed with topical creams, antibiotic creams, pills, injections, soaps, chemical therapies for anything you are now set up to experience the disease that would have normally not been a problem for you because of your natural immunity remembered by the cells of you bone marrow. Due to the manufacture of more and more vaccines to counter act more and more problems that have been brought to us from suppression with other vaccines we will be seeing normal diseases as deadly and dangerous. As these new vaccines are placed into the mandatory list and considered normal attitudes of medicine for our children, the more that we will see childhood disease as dangerous... Modern medicine is truly our worst enemy. Not so much out of malicious but out of misguidance and the ego driven mind that says, "I can control this...... Sickness and disease is dangerously.... More money will find the answer to all disease. ... Illness is a waste of time and is of now benefit to the greater good of the general population."

We are creating a Monster that we will not be able to handle. The Monster is our cells that are no longer aid to protect us but are laid bare and without guidance as to who is friend, or self and who is foe. The protection that each generation should be passing on to their progeny will now be lost... Modern medical breakthroughs are feeding that Monster. The more that organ transplants are promoted the more anti-rejection medication is created... This anti-rejection medication SUPPRESSES the IMMUNE SYSTEM.. The suppression of that immune system is necessary in order to keep the organ from being rejected (killed and consumed) by the host's immune system. This is the only way to do an organ transplant... In the case of bone marrow transplantation (which I have had extensive knowledge) the immune system is suppressed in order to stop it from killing and consuming the host... The Bone Marrow is where the immune system is born. Without the bone marrow you have no immune system. Now the transplanted bone Marrow (immune system) from the donor is growing in a body that it finds to be FOREIGN... The immune system is created to consume, surround, eject or destroy all FOREIGN Material from the body... This newly transplanted bone marrow of the donor is now growing in a FOREIGN BODY. It has no information to help it understand that this new body is what it should be defending... It goes about its business and clears all material... including other RNA/DNA that is not identified as itself from the body. It does not realize that it is Killing itself.... The ant-irejection material must suppress the immune system to slow its responses to DESTROY. This is also destroying its ability to surround viruses or bacterium and fungi. The host now is susceptible to diseases that they may have had as children would have given them a natural immunity... or any vaccine retro viruses or heavy metal poisoning from the donor.... Am I making sense here.?.... The more MODERN MEDICINE comes up with newer and more INNOVATIVE methods of drugs and human geneome identification that promotes "GENE THERAPIES" of any kind the more latent disease will be brought to the forefront. These latent diseases that the healthy immune system would not have a problem with, such as chicken pox, measles, polio will now begin to kill. These diseases are no worse then they were originally. They are only appearing though there were never identified by our immediate ancestry that passed our genes to us... Now we are the VIRGIN POPULATION as was our ancient ancestor... As though we were aliens on an alien planet with no immune system tag to support and defend us from this "NEW DISEASE"... This disease is only new to the suppressed immune system whose genetic knowledged has been eliminated by bone marrow suppression therapies...

The entire discourse that I have just gone through here is to explain that the RINGWORM that you daughter is experiencing is not something to worry about... The things that you do that would SUPPRESS it would be the culprit..... So don't worry about it, just don't suppress... It is not contagious even though the allopathic medical norm believes so... And know that everyone around you is vaccinating, using antibiotics, steroids and suppressive therapies on a regular basis in the belief that they are doing the very best for themselves, their children and for the general population.... You have to guard your own immunity by stopping all suppressive therapies and allow that immune system to do its own work... Homeopathy will promote and support that notion...

Thanks for your comment that invoked this information that I have been able to share with all of you.... You are all such great inspiration to me... I am just so sorry that I cannot sit here all day and respond to everything that is placed onto this list... I have much more to share.... unfortunately ... time is limited for us all..

Hopefully I have been of help and not just clogged your e-mail...

Phyllis

Re: ringworm advice needed homeopathic reply

Phyllis,

Since I have been reading the boards, I knew I did not want to suppress it. She's only 1!!! Has had no TB testing or any kind of meds and is still breastfeeding. We have been putting Propolis Salve with Vitamin E on it and the list of ingredients are wheat germ oil,safflower oil,tocopherol acetate(Vit. E), Aloe Vera Gel, Beeswax, propolis, and clove oil. I still don't understand how she contacted this...oh,my, I just remember reading TB was going around? Perhaps her body is functioning and she is getting it out of her system? Is there something else that could look like ringworm? See, I even question my husband! I would have emailed you personally with this but don't see your complete email address...maybe someone can use the public info. later. I will get on the horn tomorrow and find me a homeopath!

I am not a medical doctor,nor do I portray one on t.v.!(But my husband,Mike,is!!!)

Laurie>Bucyrus,Ohio

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That was very informative and as usual it will be safed.

Thank you Phyllis,

a.

Re: ringworm advice needed homeopathic reply

Phyllis,

Since I have been reading the boards, I knew I did not want to suppress it. She's only 1!!! Has had no TB testing or any kind of meds and is still breastfeeding. We have been putting Propolis Salve with Vitamin E on it and the list of ingredients are wheat germ oil,safflower oil,tocopherol acetate(Vit. E), Aloe Vera Gel, Beeswax, propolis, and clove oil. I still don't understand how she contacted this...oh,my, I just remember reading TB was going around? Perhaps her body is functioning and she is getting it out of her system? Is there something else that could look like ringworm? See, I even question my husband! I would have emailed you personally with this but don't see your complete email address...maybe someone can use the public info. later. I will get on the horn tomorrow and find me a homeopath!

I am not a medical doctor,nor do I portray one on t.v.!(But my husband,Mike,is!!!)

Laurie>Bucyrus,Ohio

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....

It is not contagious even though the allopathic medical norm believes so...

I don't know about this REALLY. It is all around in my classroom right now and I can DEFINATELY trace how contagious it is unless we are all genetically tagged for the disease and happen to be in the same class. One boy had a huge one on his head. He played in my house area and tried on all the dress up hats. All the other children who frequent this area of the room now have it on their head (4 total now) and so do I on my arm. It's a fungus from everything I've researched.

L.Proud mom to Autumn 1-13-97 & Zoe 8-8-00