Re: Way OT - Non-Fluoride Toothpaste For Kids?

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Just because something is natural does not mean it is good for you. Sodium

Laurel Sulfate is used to claen garage floors. It is a foaming agent that

has a drying effect. It causes a lot of people to have absess’ (I think

that is right) in their mouths.

Shanna Small Atlanta, GA

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>Subject: Re: Way OT - Non-Fluoride Toothpaste For Kids?

>Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2001 15:31:07 -0500

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>Ok, now I know what SLS is...I thought this natural SLS was ok too?...

>Sharon, Quakertown PA

> Re: Way OT - Non-Fluoride Toothpaste For Kids?

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> i thought the sodium lauryl sulfate in tom's was ok as it is a naturally

> occuring byproduct from coconut oil--does anyone know??!!

> there are several fluoride free tom's--maybe not in your regular grocery

> store, but i'm sure any health food store would carry several. there

>are

> also a couple of other brands that do not contain flouride...

> brigit, in albany

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We use Nature's Gate cherry. There is also a german brand at out health store that makes strawberry and orange non flouride. Go to a health store and look. Youre bound to stumble on lots.

Jen

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In a message dated 1/28/01 5:46:28 PM Central Standard Time, katrinaj@... writes:

According to the good folks at Tom's of Maine

Could I see where you got this info? I have two different versions (one kid's) and it says "CONTAINS NO FLUORIDE", and no fluoride is listed in the ingredients. Those versions of Tom's that have fluoride, contain naturally occurring fluoride (rather than the waste-product of the aluminum industry used by everyone else) and fluoride is listed in the ingredients. If indeed they are putting fluoride, natural or not, into ALL of their products, then it should be listed. I think that's the law.

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In a message dated 1/28/01 8:30:37 PM Central Standard Time, katrinaj@... writes:

I am curious to know just what product you have. I have always liked Tom's and wonder why they don't mention the whole line of their products. ????

I'll have to look. The 2 tubes are scrunched up and buried somewhere. I stopped using toothpaste last year when I found that baking soda with a myrh/echinacea rinse works better than anything... and my kids got hooked on Nature's Gate cherry which I can get at life's vigor for a fraction of what I'd pay for other things... I think I got it by accident last year. Perhaps I purchased it when I couldn't find a "no-fluoride" label for the kid's from Tom's...

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According to the good folks at Tom's of Maine, all of their kid's

toothpastes have flouride. It is the natural flouride. Can anyone explain

the difference between the two?

Also, is there any difference between the adult and the children's

toothpaste besides taste? I was told by a dentist years ago that the

children's ones were flavoured to get kids to brush. Are there other

advantages with the natural pastes? The amount of abrasives is about the

only thing I can think of. My kids are using a Nature's Gate adult flavour

now and they like the taste alot.

Katrina

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Sodium

>Laurel Sulfate is used to claen garage floors. It is a foaming agent that

>has a drying effect. It causes a lot of people to have absess’ (I think

>that is right) in their mouths.

Geeze, it is in just about all of the " natural " bathroom items we have,

shampoos, soaps, conditioners, etc..

It does seem to appear mostly in the less expensive brands and in the store

brands. I was reading the ingredients of the 365 brand conditioner the other

day while bathing the girls and noticed it listed. On the other side, it

gives the sources for all of the ingredients and lists them as all naturally

occuring.

Many of our household cleaning products list " coconut oil dirived

surfacants " . I assume this is the same thing. They also label them as " skin

irritants " . I know that most people have an obsession with how much

something foams as to how well it cleans. Many good natural products (like

our laundry soap)even say that they *don't* foam up but that that doesn't

mean they aren't working.

I'm slowly learning that just because it comes from the HFS, doesn't mean

it's good. (Of course this doesn't apply to the cookies. If *they* come from

the HFS, it's o.k. to eat the whole bag, right?)

I know that Whole Foods carries a good deal of cross over products even

though it goes against their mission statement. Even all of the meats, I was

told, aren't all natural because they just didn't sell as well.

I guess it always comes down to money. Sigh.

Katrina - in snowey Colorado, and loving it!

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Yes...I just checked out this website that I was directed to, and it is

really good. I am about to go through my cabinets and closets and throw

everything out... www.lindachae.com ....

Sharon, Quakertown PA

Re: Re: Way OT - Non-Fluoride Toothpaste For Kids?

> ok, but does ANYONE have any info they can direct me to that explains the

> problem with sls that comes from coconut? i hear all about how bad it is

for

> you, but why and how? anyone?

> brigit, in albany

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A short while back, I emailed them from their website. Their response was

that they do not at this time have a flouride free toothpaste for kids.

I just checked their website again and if you go to

http://208.5.178.253/products/ctp.htm

they state " Children's Silly Strawberry and Outrageous Orange toothpastes

contain fluoride (sodium monofluorophosphate), an ingredient proven to be

effective in fighting tooth decay. We do not currently offer a fluoride-free

version of our children's toothpaste (though our adult fluoride-free flavors

appeal to many kids, too). "

They also mention that they now carry the American Dental Association Seal

of Acceptance. I would be surprised if they gave their approval for a

non-flouridated product. Here is their statement: " Tom's of Maine natural

fluoride toothpastes - Fennel, Spearmint, Cinnamint, Silly Strawberry,

Outrageous Orange-Mango, Wintermint - have been shown to be effective

decay-preventive dentifrices that can be of significant value when used as

directed in a conscientiously applied program of oral hygiene and regular

professional care. " They only mention the ones containing flouride.

We used to use the Silly Strawberry and Outrageous Orange, both with great

success. When all the stuff about flouride came up on the list, I decided to

switch to another brand until I understood the difference between the

" regular " flouride and the natural flouride. Now the kids are hooked on

Nature's Gate so I guess it isn't an issue anymore.

I am curious to know just what product you have. I have always liked Tom's

and wonder why they don't mention the whole line of their products. ????

Katrina

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>Subject: Re: Re: Way OT - Non-Fluoride Toothpaste For Kids?

>Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2001 19:45:08 EST

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>In a message dated 1/28/01 5:46:28 PM Central Standard Time,

>katrinaj@... writes:

>

>

> > According to the good folks at Tom's of Maine

>

>Could I see where you got this info? I have two different versions (one

>kid's) and it says " CONTAINS NO FLUORIDE " , and no fluoride is listed in the

>ingredients. Those versions of Tom's that have fluoride, contain naturally

>occurring fluoride (rather than the waste-product of the aluminum industry

>used by everyone else) and fluoride is listed in the ingredients. If

>indeed

>they are putting fluoride, natural or not, into ALL of their products, then

>it should be listed. I think that's the law.

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We use Tea tree oil toothpaste. It contains no fluoride and comes in a

variety of flavors. We use the mint. Tea tree oil is an antiseptic and

works GREAT!

We buy it at our health food store or the vitamin outlet.

Margaret White

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Non-Fluoride Toothpaste For Kids?

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OK, we do not use fluoride toothpaste and my 1½ yr. old is starting to show

interest in brushing her own teeth now. She hates the taste of regular

tooth

pastes, such as the minty ones and fennel, and the ONLY kids tooth paste I

have seen is Toms Of Maine and it is fluoridated. I thought I once saw some

by Weleda but maybe I was seeing things. And if I remember, it didn't say

if

it was fluoridated or not. But can anyone tell me if there are any? I'd

like

to get her to brushing her teeth since she is showing interest but would

like

to have some pleasant tasting tooth paste for her. Thanks.

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