thyroid

[Guest guest]

Wasn't there some talk of the Th1/Th2 shift causing a lowering of

body temp. by about 2 degrees?

My body temp. was/is habitually low. But was not helped by

deccicated thyroid. A lot of deccicated thyroid too. (could not

tolerate other forms of thyroid medication). Treating the thyroid is

probably the first thing to try.

I am just now getting around to the Th1/Th2 thing. I think it is an

interesting slice of the pie in relation to low body temp.. Just a

different way of looking at the problem, rather than thyroid.

Zippy

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> The procedure is to shake a thermometer down below 95 F, and put in

on

> your nightstand before going to sleep. When you awaken, hold it in

> your armpit with your arm clamped gently onto it, and try not to

move

> much for ten minutes. Do this for three days, and average it. If

> it's below about 97.6 F, this suggests that your basal metabolic

rate

> is low, and that thyroid hormone may help.

>

> Rich

[Guest guest]

I have a question, how does thyroid affect pathogens? I have a

staphylococcus infection, and I'm wondering if maybe the racing heart

problems I had when taking supplemental hormone was because maybe it also

stimulated the production of endotoxins/enterotoxins from the pathogens? I

remember reading that estrogen stimulates pathogen growth, which is why a

lot of women are affected by their menstrual cycle. So I know they are

affected by one hormone. Has anyone tested the effects of other hormones on

pathogens?

lindaj@...

Re: thyroid

> Wasn't there some talk of the Th1/Th2 shift causing a lowering of

> body temp. by about 2 degrees?

>

> My body temp. was/is habitually low. But was not helped by

> deccicated thyroid. A lot of deccicated thyroid too. (could not

> tolerate other forms of thyroid medication). Treating the thyroid is

> probably the first thing to try.

>

> I am just now getting around to the Th1/Th2 thing. I think it is an

> interesting slice of the pie in relation to low body temp.. Just a

> different way of looking at the problem, rather than thyroid.

>

> Zippy

>

>

> ==================================================================

>

>

>

>

> > The procedure is to shake a thermometer down below 95 F, and put in

> on

> > your nightstand before going to sleep. When you awaken, hold it in

> > your armpit with your arm clamped gently onto it, and try not to

> move

> > much for ten minutes. Do this for three days, and average it. If

> > it's below about 97.6 F, this suggests that your basal metabolic

> rate

> > is low, and that thyroid hormone may help.

> >

> > Rich

>

>

>

> This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each

other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment

discussed here, please consult your doctor.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks , Rich, and others for your replies. My doctor put me on

15 mg Armour and so far so good. I've been on it two days and have

more energy but need more time to evaluate its effectiveness. Thanks

again,

> > There has been some talk of thyroid problems and cfs lately. I

just

> > had my thyroid checked and the results are as follows:

> >

> > T4 Thyroxine 5.8 (v.5-12.5)

> > TSH 1.440 (0.4-4.O)

> > Free T3 by dialysis L 101 Normal: (104 to 206)

> > T3 78 Normal :(65 to 164)

> >

> > My question is concerning the low Free T3. Is this enough of a

> > problem to warrant my doctor putting me on a very low dose Armour

> > thyroid? I've just begun to research thyroid issues (I am not

> > familiar with them) and would appreciate any informative feedback

> > concerning this. Thanks

[Guest guest]

Martha - they did the TSH test for thyroid function

and T3 and T4 levels. That was in late 1998 - I've

been on hormones since then. I take ARmour thyroid,

which affects both T3 and T4 levels unlike Synthroid,

and we check about every six to 12 months to see if we

need to readjust. I have been at 60 to 120 mg and

currently take 75 mg on an empty stomach daily. It is

not usually something you can get off of, as thyroid

doesn't repair itself as adrenals do.

Hope that helps - Jennie

Date: Sat, 30 Mar 2002 11:44:13 +0800

From: " Ho " <justinho@...>

Subject: RE: Re: Hypothyroidism -

Hi

What kind of hormorned was it and what ptotocol and

for how long? DId

you get the ASI test done?

REgards

JUstin

Re: Hypothyroidism

F.,

Thanks for sharing your experience. I'm glad the

thyroid hormones

helped you out.

Rich

> Rich - very interesting theory! My thyroid tested

at

> the low end of normal for years, but I had all the

> classic hypothyroid symptoms, so finally my current

> wonderful doctor put me on hormones and I had a huge

> immediate improvement. It didn't cure me, but what

a

> difference! I think your theory is spot on.

>

> Jennie F.

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

I believe that would be hyper( meaning overactive) so he should stay skinny

whereas hypo means that you will gain weight. sherri

thyroid

> My son also just started Thyroid meds.. and he is 6 this month.. a normal

reading is at a 6 and his is a 10, is that hypothyroid? My dr. called quick

one day to order in the meds, but I have to get in there and talk to him

more about it. will get tested in a few weeks to see if it's changed. I

wonder if this is a lifetime thing once they have thyroid problems?

> Hugs,

> Shar

>

> Life is a Journey, not a destination

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 4/2/2002 10:46:43 PM Eastern Standard Time,

shars3@... writes:

<< My son also just started Thyroid meds.. and he is 6 this month.. a normal

reading is at a 6 and his is a 10, is that hypothyroid? >>

It depends which number you mean. Usually you get 3 numbers T3, T4 & TSH.

TSH is thyroid stimulating hormone. Liam's can be high, but as long as T3 &

T4 are within normal range, the endocrinologist doesn't think he needs

medication. Most kids with DS have problems when T3 or T4 are below the

normal range (hypothyroid).

As I posted on another list recently, there's an abstract on the Medscape

data base that zinc defficiencies in children with DS can cause high TSH

readings. Liam's TSH went down when I started giving him a little extra zinc.

Kathy, Liam's mom (4)

[Guest guest]

Shar,

My ny is 13 months now & on Thyroid meds since 6 months. It is my

understanding that it's a lifelong thing. We go every 3 months to be

rechecked about the meds levels.

{{ DeStefano{{

{ Mommy to: Lynn & {

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[Guest guest]

Symptoms are overweight , tiredness, overeating sometimes this is

hypothyroidism that my daughter has , hyper is when your body making too much

,hypo not enough .My daughter was found to have hypothyrodism 3 years ago.

She is on meds now is still very active although a big tv watcher we have to

make her stop watching Nick all day long. She is a big eater too loves to eat

all day long but will jump up at a drop of a hat and run off somewhere-lol-..

Nettie619.............. Oh and if you are concerned as for a test I had to

suggest one for my daughter this is when we also found celiac present in her,

so dont be afraid to ask questions and suggest tests you feel are important

with some drs you have too!!

[Guest guest]

ok this sounds more like me. tired, overweight, low energy. already had my

thyroide checked but durn, it was fine.

kerrie mom to ben 17 ds and alex 14nda

[Guest guest]

What are the symptoms of a thyroid problem?

Re: thyroid

> this is so cute with the flowers and such by your name!! of course the

list can't see them, because it's set to not show things like that.. but I

loved them in my inbox!! hee..

> I have to take in next week for his first set of blood tests

following the beginning of the thyroid meds. I believe he's been on them

nearing 5 weeks now. I have noticed a big change though. He used to sleep

for 3 hours every afternoon, and now he doesn't nap at all. This is good,

because they were worried about that for full time school in the fall. I am

sad it's a lifetime thing, these pills.. I was hoping it was short term

> Shar

> ................................

> Shar,

>

> My ny is 13 months now & on Thyroid meds since 6 months. It is my

understanding that it's a lifelong thing. We go every 3 months to be

rechecked about the meds levels.

> {{ DeStefano{{

> { Mommy to: Lynn & {

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

this is so cute with the flowers and such by your name!! of course the list

can't see them, because it's set to not show things like that.. but I loved them

in my inbox!! hee..

I have to take in next week for his first set of blood tests following the

beginning of the thyroid meds. I believe he's been on them nearing 5 weeks now.

I have noticed a big change though. He used to sleep for 3 hours every

afternoon, and now he doesn't nap at all. This is good, because they were

worried about that for full time school in the fall. I am sad it's a lifetime

thing, these pills.. I was hoping it was short term

Shar

.................................

Shar,

My ny is 13 months now & on Thyroid meds since 6 months. It is my

understanding that it's a lifelong thing. We go every 3 months to be rechecked

about the meds levels.

{{ DeStefano{{

{ Mommy to: Lynn & {

[Guest guest]

I am not really sure.. I think there are two types.. one that can make a child

overweight and slow moving.. another that can be overactive.. I am sure someone

on here can better explain.. I am still learning about it all myself.. but if he

didn't go on meds, then the Dr. said his neck could swell up and his balance

would be off??? I'm no help. I didn't know of any symptoms.. the blood test is

what said it wasn't right.

Shar

What are the symptoms of a thyroid problem?

[Guest guest]

That's funny! I work with a woman who has been to the doc several times to be

tested because she really wants a thyroid problem!! A couple of people in her

family have one and when they got on meds, they lost weight, so she is just

insisting she has a thyroid prolbem. LOL

Re: thyroid

ok this sounds more like me. tired, overweight, low energy. already had my

thyroide checked but durn, it was fine.

kerrie mom to ben 17 ds and alex 14nda

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 4/14/02 9:56:34 AM Central Daylight Time,

kspilious@... writes:

> What are the symptoms of a thyroid problem?

>

>

My advice is to not wait for symptoms. Have the blood test done yearly to

check for thyroid problems.

Karyn

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 4/14/02 12:50:38 PM Central Daylight Time,

kspilious@... writes:

> That's funny! I work with a woman who has been to the doc several times to

> be tested because she really wants a thyroid problem!! A couple of people

> in her family have one and when they got on meds, they lost weight, so she

> is just insisting she has a thyroid prolbem. LOL

>

>

> When I quit smoking I gained weight. I went to the dr. hoping it was

> thyroid. Not so. Two people in my immediate family have it so I thought

> maybe. Oh well, just have to lose it the old fashioned way.

>

> Karyn

[Guest guest]

Some of the symptoms of hypothyroidism or underactive thyroid are

fatigue, weight gain, increased snoring and hair loss. I think there are

many more but I forgot what they are. These are symptoms for the general

population, I assume they would be the same for our kids.

Hope

Shar*Ü* wrote:

> I am not really sure.. I think there are two types.. one that can make

> a child overweight and slow moving.. another that can be overactive..

> I am sure someone on here can better explain.. I am still learning

> about it all myself.. but if he didn't go on meds, then the Dr. said

> his neck could swell up and his balance would be off??? I'm no help. I

> didn't know of any symptoms.. the blood test is what said it wasn't right.

> Shar

> What are the symptoms of a thyroid problem?

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

What is the best way for quitting smoking? I am going to try again. I have

tried cold turkey and used the patches. But it never lasted. I really depend

on my cigarettes for my nerves. With 5 kids plus doing at home daycare. I

can't go without my cig. too long. My kids argue and the 3 yr. old is a crab

at night. And just so many things. I know I should not depend on smoking for

stress relief, but I do. And I really want to quit. Send some advice my way.

Joyce mom to 5 Nikki 7 1/2 months DS

Re: thyroid

> In a message dated 4/14/02 12:50:38 PM Central Daylight Time,

> kspilious@... writes:

>

>

> > That's funny! I work with a woman who has been to the doc several times

to

> > be tested because she really wants a thyroid problem!! A couple of

people

> > in her family have one and when they got on meds, they lost weight, so

she

> > is just insisting she has a thyroid prolbem. LOL

> >

> >

> > When I quit smoking I gained weight. I went to the dr. hoping it was

> > thyroid. Not so. Two people in my immediate family have it so I thought

> > maybe. Oh well, just have to lose it the old fashioned way.

> >

> > Karyn

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 4/14/2002 7:56:35 AM US Mountain Standard Time,

kspilious@... writes:

> What are the symptoms of a thyroid problem?

>

I'm not really sure. We just had ny checked at the 6 month mark like the

list suggested & whammo, he had a problem.

I know to that he doesn't sleep now all the time like he used to & he just

seems more active & fun. But he also went on thyroid meds 4 weeks after his

heart surgery so the extra energy could have been just from his heart being

fixed & acting like a normal little man!!

{{ DeStefano{{

{ Mommy to: Lynn & {

{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{{

[Guest guest]

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE SYMPTOMS FOR THE THYROID ARE BUT, MY SON HAS HAD

THYROID PROBLEMS SINCE BIRTH. THE DRS. CAUGHT WITH THE BLOOD TESTS WHEN HE

WAS BORN AND HE IS 10 MONTHS OLD. WE FOUND OUT THAT HE DOESN'T HAVE DS WHICH

IS GOOD. I THANK GOD EVERYDAY FOR THAT. BUT HE HAS HAD OTHER PROBLEMS. HE

HAS A VERY LARGE TONGUE IS WHY WE THOUGHT HE HAD DS BUT, THE DRS. SAID THAT

WAS DUE TO HIS THYROID. THEY CAN'T GET HIS THYROID UNDERCONTROL HE IS NOW UP

TO 75MCG. WHICH MIGHT GO UP SOME MORE. HE IS A VERY SMALL 10 MONTH OLD HE

ONLY WEIGHS 13.4 AND HE WILL BE A YEAR OLD ON MAY 25TH. HE HAS HAD TWO

SURGERIES ALREADY FOR KIDNEY AND REFLUX AND HAS BEEN IN THE HOSPITAL 10X'S.

THEY DID A CHROMOSOME TEST ON HIM AND EVERYTHING COME BACK NORMAL. SO WE

DON'T KNOW WHY HE IS HAVING ALL THESE PROBLEMS. IF ANYONE CAN THINK OF A

REASON FOR THESE PROBLEMS PLEASE LET ME KNOW THANK YOU

JESSICA MOM OF 3 ASHLEY 12, KATIE 3 AND DYLAN SOON TO BE 1

[Guest guest]

Good for you that you want to quit. I agree the first step to quitting is

that you really want to quit. I'm sorry i don't have suggestions, but it

sounds as if you really want to quit and i'm sure if you put your all into

this you can do it. Good luck.

Davina, mom to Kyron 9;Kyrell 6 ds;Kierra 4

[Guest guest]

Ronnie Sikes wrote:

> My child has mosaic ds and her bloodwork showed this diagnosis but

> there are a couple of parents on another list I am on whose childrens

> bloodwork did not show ds but they later had a skin or cheek swab test

> done that did show some tri 21 cells. It may be worth having this test

> done just to be sure. If it is negative you can lay that issue to

> rest. I know it must be hard not having a dx. Best wishes.

> Hope

>

> AKAFRlSKMENOW@... wrote:

>

>> I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE SYMPTOMS FOR THE THYROID ARE BUT, MY SON HAS HAD

>> THYROID PROBLEMS SINCE BIRTH. THE DRS. CAUGHT WITH THE BLOOD TESTS

>> WHEN HE

>> WAS BORN AND HE IS 10 MONTHS OLD. WE FOUND OUT THAT HE DOESN'T HAVE

>> DS WHICH

>> IS GOOD. I THANK GOD EVERYDAY FOR THAT. BUT HE HAS HAD OTHER

>> PROBLEMS. HE

>> HAS A VERY LARGE TONGUE IS WHY WE THOUGHT HE HAD DS BUT, THE DRS.

>> SAID THAT

>> WAS DUE TO HIS THYROID. THEY CAN'T GET HIS THYROID UNDERCONTROL HE

>> IS NOW UP

>> TO 75MCG. WHICH MIGHT GO UP SOME MORE. HE IS A VERY SMALL 10 MONTH

>> OLD HE

>> ONLY WEIGHS 13.4 AND HE WILL BE A YEAR OLD ON MAY 25TH. HE HAS HAD TWO

>> SURGERIES ALREADY FOR KIDNEY AND REFLUX AND HAS BEEN IN THE HOSPITAL

>> 10X'S.

>> THEY DID A CHROMOSOME TEST ON HIM AND EVERYTHING COME BACK NORMAL.

>> SO WE

>> DON'T KNOW WHY HE IS HAVING ALL THESE PROBLEMS. IF ANYONE CAN THINK

>> OF A

>> REASON FOR THESE PROBLEMS PLEASE LET ME KNOW THANK YOU

>>

>> JESSICA MOM OF 3 ASHLEY 12, KATIE 3 AND DYLAN SOON TO BE 1

>>

>>

>>

[Guest guest]

Dear Keri.

I know my Rheum. Doc checks me for Thyroid problems every time I get blood

drawn. So there must be some kind of connection. So far my Thyroid is

fine.

I hope your surgery went well. It sounds like you have been through so

much. I hope you start feeling better soon and life gets easier for you.

I am not on Prednisone but I am the heaviest I have ever been because of

lack of exercise. I have been having quite a bit of back pain that is

further limiting my activities. I don't eat that much it is from a lack of

exercise. I am working hard to lose weight. It certainly isn't easy. I

know it is so much more difficult when your on the Prednisone. I have been

there.

I didn't mean to babble. Let us know how your doing and how the Thyroid

test turns out. I have never heard of the surgery that you had. I hope it

went well and it is helping. Keep us posted.

Love,

jatw@...

[Guest guest]

Hi a,

I have a Thyroid disorder also, I'm Hypothoroidism. I on Synthroid the

medication for it. Well I hope they find the cause and put you on meds. for

it. Let me know what happens with the final results. Take care----Dave from

south fla.

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I was diagnosed with hypothyroidism back in September. I was given

this web site, which ended up being a wealth of information:

www.thyroid-info.com

I encourage you to browse through the site and, in particular, read

the articles and FAQs.

Many doctors today are not as educated on thyroid conditions as much

as we wish they would be. So it's up to you to educate yourself on

the condition and on how to deal with your doctor as far as making a

diagnosis based on interpretation of blood tests (not the best

diagnosis tool) combined with consideration of your symptoms and, if

you're diagnosed with a thyroid condition, trying different

treatments until you find the one that eliminates your symptoms.

Feel free to email me privately if you need more info, either now or

after you've seen your doctor.

Sue

>

> Hey gals....

>

> I talked on the phone this evening with Kim Cantergiani. She was a

BFL 2001 champ. She spent well over an hour with me and was very

nice.

>

> She asked me all sorts of questions and in the end said I should

definitely be seeing some results now, after five weeks....at least

some looser pants.

>

> Anyway, a few things she suggested...one I should eat more...She

says my calories are too low, second that I should eat before my

weight training and also not get up so early before my cardio. Third

she recommended I do moderate cardio a couple times a week,

preferably after weights and finally that I get my thyroid checked.

>

> It is this last suggestion that I am inquiring about. Any of you

with experience in this area... I would appreciate your feedback.

Thanks,

>

> C

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you for your responses.

I have an appointment with an internal med specialist on Monday to have a

complete work over. I don't think I've had that done since high school.

I did have a blood test done in September to make sure my mono virus was gone.

That doctor finally called me back today and said they did do a thyroid test.

My result was .80 which is in the normal range of .40 to 5.50. I called my

herbalist who said it is low enough on the spectrum to cause issues and that my

next appointment could show a greater depletion. So for now, I'm taking an

herbal supplement. I will still tell the doctor all my weird symptoms.....like

one of the sites I went to said a good test is to take ones temperature and if

it is lower than 80 degrees there is a good chance ones thyroid has a problem.

My temp has been ninety six to ninety seven for years. That in and of itself

may not be cause for alarm, but with everything else it makes me wonder.

C