Re: http://www.theglobeandmail.com/cancer

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Nice article, Zavie

thanks for sharing

Love and light

Annie

www.livingwithcml.blogspot.com

>

> Hi,

>

> Pick up a copy of today's Globe and Mail or check the Internet site

at

> http://www.theglobeandmail.com/cancer

>

> Zavie

>

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Great stuff Zavie excellent article

which one are you in the picture with beard or without

--- Zavie <zmiller@...> wrote:

> Hi,

>

> Pick up a copy of today's Globe and Mail or check

> the Internet site at

> http://www.theglobeandmail.com/cancer

>

> Zavie

>

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Hello to All,

The article in the Globe and Mail which stated: The end of chemo? One magic

pill may hold answer(11) - Gleevec is an inspiration for scientists around

the world working on drugs that will kill cancer cells but leave healthy

tissue alone -

My understanding is that GLEEVIC is chemo and it is far from being magic.

I found the article to be deceptive.

Warm regards,

Rita

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>zavie <zmiller@...>

>Subject: [ ] http://www.theglobeandmail.com/cancer

>Date: Tue, 28 Nov 2006 14:32:53 -0500

>

>Hi,

>

>Pick up a copy of today's Globe and Mail or check the Internet site at

>http://www.theglobeandmail.com/cancer

>

>Zavie

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Without.

Thanks, Zavie

Skip Duffie wrote:

> Great stuff Zavie excellent article

> which one are you in the picture with beard or without

>

> --- Zavie <zmiller@...> wrote:

>

>

>> Hi,

>>

>> Pick up a copy of today's Globe and Mail or check

>> the Internet site at

>> http://www.theglobeandmail.com/cancer

>>

>> Zavie

>>

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>

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At 01:00 AM 11/29/06 +0000, you wrote:

>The article in the Globe and Mail which stated: The end of chemo? One magic

>pill may hold answer(11) - Gleevec is an inspiration for scientists around

>the world working on drugs that will kill cancer cells but leave healthy

>tissue alone -

>

>My understanding is that GLEEVIC is chemo and it is far from being magic.

>

>I found the article to be deceptive.

Hi Rita,

Most people do not consider Gleevec to be chemo in the traditional

sense......it is a drug. But chemo usually indiscriminately kills cells,

usually anything that reproduces rapidly (cancer and non-cancer cells

alike).......and Gleevec is a molecularly targeted drug.

With the development of Gleevec, it was proved that a drug could be

developed for a specific target for a cancer cell. In fact we are told that

this was a primary argument for developing Gleevec...to show that this was

possible. I think this has inspired many researchers to work on similar

drugs for different cancers.

For many CML patients, Gleevec has been 'magic'. Even though I was a

suboptimal responder on Gleevec, I have NO doubt that Gleevec kept me alive

until another drug was available......a little bit of magic. I know that

you are an oldtimer.............would you really want to still be treated

by interferon and/or ara-c?........or hydrea (which did not slow

progression of the disease).......

The 2nd generation drug that you are presently on (like myself) would not

be here if it was not for the development of Gleevec.

No one is saying that Gleevec is a perfect drug for everyone........it's

pretty magical for those who are PCRU on 400mg....and I am happy for them.

Having your cancer become a chronic disease instead of a fatal one is

pretty magical. If you want to compare this treatment to a more typical

cancer treatment (with chemo, surgery and radiation) visit the waiting room

of any cancer center.......and maybe you will feel lucky about the

treatment that you have available.

Believing is part of healing.....as is hope.......and maybe it comes in the

form of a 'magic pill' for some.

C.

[Guest guest]

Rita,

I agree 100% with Cogan--this drug that is keeping my husband alive,

so that he can enjoy our 7 month old son, so that he can enjoy all that life

has to offer, so that he and I together can raise our son...how is that not

magic? Had this been only 10 short years ago, who is to say whether I might

be a single mom right now with a newborn on my hands...to me, it is a

miracle and it is magic that a little pill called Gleevec has given my son

more time with his daddy.

Regards

>From: Cogan <ncogan@...>

>Reply-

>

>Subject: RE: [ ] http://www.theglobeandmail.com/cancer

>Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2006 00:46:09 -0800

>

>At 01:00 AM 11/29/06 +0000, you wrote:

> >The article in the Globe and Mail which stated: The end of chemo? One

>magic

> >pill may hold answer(11) - Gleevec is an inspiration for scientists

>around

> >the world working on drugs that will kill cancer cells but leave healthy

> >tissue alone -

> >

> >My understanding is that GLEEVIC is chemo and it is far from being magic.

> >

> >I found the article to be deceptive.

>

>

>Hi Rita,

>

>Most people do not consider Gleevec to be chemo in the traditional

>sense......it is a drug. But chemo usually indiscriminately kills cells,

>usually anything that reproduces rapidly (cancer and non-cancer cells

>alike).......and Gleevec is a molecularly targeted drug.

>

>With the development of Gleevec, it was proved that a drug could be

>developed for a specific target for a cancer cell. In fact we are told that

>this was a primary argument for developing Gleevec...to show that this was

>possible. I think this has inspired many researchers to work on similar

>drugs for different cancers.

>

>For many CML patients, Gleevec has been 'magic'. Even though I was a

>suboptimal responder on Gleevec, I have NO doubt that Gleevec kept me alive

>until another drug was available......a little bit of magic. I know that

>you are an oldtimer.............would you really want to still be treated

>by interferon and/or ara-c?........or hydrea (which did not slow

>progression of the disease).......

>The 2nd generation drug that you are presently on (like myself) would not

>be here if it was not for the development of Gleevec.

>

>No one is saying that Gleevec is a perfect drug for everyone........it's

>pretty magical for those who are PCRU on 400mg....and I am happy for them.

>Having your cancer become a chronic disease instead of a fatal one is

>pretty magical. If you want to compare this treatment to a more typical

>cancer treatment (with chemo, surgery and radiation) visit the waiting room

>of any cancer center.......and maybe you will feel lucky about the

>treatment that you have available.

>

>Believing is part of healing.....as is hope.......and maybe it comes in the

>form of a 'magic pill' for some.

> C.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Dear ,

That's marvellous that you can enjoy life as a family. However, the pill is

not magic, it is a scientific product which keeps us going. The real magic

would be a CURE. There are many people out there who are not experiencing

magic from Gleevic as they can't afford it nor can tolerate it becasue this

pill and others like it are too expensive. How can magic fix that?

Much love,

Rita

[Guest guest]

> >The article in the Globe and Mail which stated: The end of chemo?

One magic

> >pill may hold answer(11) - Gleevec is an inspiration for

scientists around

> >the world working on drugs that will kill cancer cells but leave

healthy

> >tissue alone -

> >

> >My understanding is that GLEEVIC is chemo and it is far from being

magic.

> >

> >I found the article to be deceptive.

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>

>

> Hi Rita,

>

> Most people do not consider Gleevec to be chemo in the traditional

> sense......it is a drug. But chemo usually indiscriminately kills

cells,

> usually anything that reproduces rapidly (cancer and non-cancer

cells

> alike).......and Gleevec is a molecularly targeted drug.

>

> With the development of Gleevec, it was proved that a drug could

be

> developed for a specific target for a cancer cell. In fact we are

told that

> this was a primary argument for developing Gleevec...to show that

this was

> possible. I think this has inspired many researchers to work on

similar

> drugs for different cancers.

>

> For many CML patients, Gleevec has been 'magic'. Even though I was

a

> suboptimal responder on Gleevec, I have NO doubt that Gleevec kept

me alive

> until another drug was available......a little bit of magic. I know

that

> you are an oldtimer.............would you really want to still be

treated

> by interferon and/or ara-c?........or hydrea (which did not slow

> progression of the disease).......

> The 2nd generation drug that you are presently on (like myself)

would not

> be here if it was not for the development of Gleevec.

>

> No one is saying that Gleevec is a perfect drug for

everyone........it's

> pretty magical for those who are PCRU on 400mg....and I am happy

for them.

> Having your cancer become a chronic disease instead of a fatal one

is

> pretty magical. If you want to compare this treatment to a more

typical

> cancer treatment (with chemo, surgery and radiation) visit the

waiting room

> of any cancer center.......and maybe you will feel lucky about the

> treatment that you have available.

>

> Believing is part of healing.....as is hope.......and maybe it

comes in the

> form of a 'magic pill' for some.

> C.

>

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Really well put ! I don't know Rita's condition but if she is

feeling well she should lighten up a bit.

The Globe and Mail is Canada's National Newspaper. I read it every

morning with my coffee. They have top notch reporters and it is very

well balanced reporting, not right or left wing. They didn't present

gleevec as a panacea nor as a cure. In fact they stated there was no

guarantee it would work forever and warned other cancer patients to

not expect a gleevec like fix right away for their tumours etc.

However (they mentioned) gleevecs' mechanisms did hold out hope for

other cancers and other patients so it was all upbeat. As someone who

spent three utterly miserable weeks on interferon gleevec has been a

godsend (maybe even magic:) for me going on 5 years now.

I really enjoyed the article and in fact the whole series the Globe

has been running the last couple of weeks. There is more to come. I

would encourage everyone to check out the website Zavie posted and

maybe check out some of the early articles.

It was really nice to see the picture of Zavie, Tracey, Ron and

Eleanor? in the Loblaws coffeshop. It reminded me of my visit to

their " coffee club " in the spring of 2004 on a gorgeous sunny May day

with all the tulips out in bloom in Ottawa.

Keep Well,

Wayne

[Guest guest]

Rita,

Gleevec has been " magic " for me as well as a multitude of CMLers. It is true

that some do not tolerate Gleevec and can't afford it. There are resources out

there to obtain Gleevec for free. When I was dx'd in March, 2006 I thought it

was the end of the world. But as the months past by I realized how fortunate I

was if I had to get this disease. I believe attitude is 90% of healing and

having a good attitude. You seem bitter towards Gleevec or maybe you have other

health issues that is contributing to your negative attitude. And, yes, a cure

would be the real magic. Maybe that will come in time.

Pam

levig@... wrote:

Dear ,

That's marvellous that you can enjoy life as a family. However, the pill is

not magic, it is a scientific product which keeps us going. The real magic

would be a CURE. There are many people out there who are not experiencing

magic from Gleevic as they can't afford it nor can tolerate it becasue this

pill and others like it are too expensive. How can magic fix that?

Much love,

Rita

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Rita--

Of course I know the pill is not actually " magic " , I know it took years and

years and tons of amazing, gifted scientiests and doctors to develop Gleevec

and many people literally owe their lives to those who invented it. I just

feel like in this day and age we have so many amazing technilogical advances

and yet we still complain about how life is not perfect. I, too, will love

to see the day come when there is a cure for CML, when there is a cure for

all cancers. I lost my mom when I was 21 to cancer (she was 50), I lost my

dad to cancer when I was 30 (he was 64), and 4 months ago I almost lost my

husband to his complications because of CML (he had a blood clot on his

brain and had to undergo 3 emergency crainiotimies). So, believe me, a cure

would be magical. I am sorry if I offended you, I did not mean to. I just

feel that every day we are alive, every breath we are able to take is a

gift. I prefer to spend my time thanking God for treatments like Gleevec,

instead of focusing on the negative side affects, the fact that not everyone

can afford it, the fact that there is no cure yet, and the list could go on.

I really do feel for the people who are not experiencing good results on

Gleevec, and especially for those who know of Gleevec yet cannot afford it.

I wish that could change, and maybe I should spend more time on figuring out

how I can get involved and help make a difference.

I really did not mean to offend anyone, or slight anyone's experience with

Gleevec, I know many people have a hard time with it. I was just sharing my

joy and gratitude over the fact that this drug is even on the market, and

that it has enabled other second-generation drugs to now be available...all

of this is of course in hopes of there being a cure in the near future. I

thank God everyday for my husband being alive, and part of my thanking

process involves thanking God for giving us the gifted scientists and

doctors who gave us Gleevec.

Regards

>From: <levig@...>

>Reply-

>

>Subject: RE: [ ] http://www.theglobeandmail.com/cancer

>Date: Thu, 30 Nov 2006 02:32:09 +0000

>

>Dear ,

>

>That's marvellous that you can enjoy life as a family. However, the pill

>is

>not magic, it is a scientific product which keeps us going. The real magic

>would be a CURE. There are many people out there who are not experiencing

>magic from Gleevic as they can't afford it nor can tolerate it becasue this

>pill and others like it are too expensive. How can magic fix that?

>

>Much love,

>

>Rita

>

>

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Hello to All of You

Thank you for your feedback as your views are as powerful, interesting and

valuable as are mine.

About bitter, I do like a bitter beer, bitter chocolate, bitter and gin

(when allowed). However, my distinctions are integrity and authenticity.

I do wish you all a life filled with 'magic'.

Much love,

Rita