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On Thu, 02 Dec 2010 17:07:20 -0000, you wrote:

>TSH 0.01 (0.10-4.00)

>T4 7.6 (11.0-22.0)

>T3 6.5 (3.5-6.5)

Those labs are what I would steer someone on T3 only or a high ratio

of T3 to T4 towards!

Top of range FT3 is where most people feel best.

How long have you been on that sort of T3 level??

If the T3 is not over range then you are not over medicated with

thyroid hormone, after all TSH is not a thyroid hormone at all!

What that is saying is your body thinks it's on enough hormone so it's

not asking your thyroid to make more, that's a good place to be in

If all else fails then T3 can be ordered prescription free mail order!

Nick

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> >TSH 0.01 (0.10-4.00)

> >T4 7.6 (11.0-22.0)

> >T3 6.5 (3.5-6.5)

>

> Those labs are what I would steer someone on T3 only or a high ratio

> of T3 to T4 towards!

>

Hi Nick

You made an interesting comment. T3 only is about the only thing I have never

tried. I have been taking 50 mcg Levo/ 60mcg T3 since August. That's with the

exception of a couple of weeks where I tood 25mcg Levo/60mcg T3. That lead to a

set back where I felt much worse. I managed to get advice from the consultant

who said to go back to what it was then.

So I have done a high ratio of T3 to T4 so to speak then.

Clearly I have not felt over-replaced, and I know it's the system that is trying

to interfere and keep people ill. I have been there and done the self-medicating

thing in the past, so fingers crossed that with changing to private consultant

and changing GPs I can continue to secure my meds properly.

I am determined to mention this one and for all!

Sat here with what I can only think is a migraine (again). Keep forgetting to

tell GP because it isn't a daily or weekly symptom. Once every few weeks or

monthly I would say.

Just wondering about these migraines (which are not officially diagnosed)

because I mentioned it to ex-GP who was wishy-washy about it and said " It could

be migraines " and didn't do anything.

Just wondering if it's symptomatic of something thyroid wise not quite right.

Seems to happen if I have been busy, or think I am doing well and missing rests.

Fiona

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On Sat, 04 Dec 2010 12:17:06 -0000, you wrote:

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>Just wondering if it's symptomatic of something thyroid wise not quite right.

Seems to happen if I have been busy, or think I am doing well and missing rests.

>

It could be an electrolyte imbalance, I've heard of that causing some

pretty spectacular headaches

Nick

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HI Fiona

Just a thought about the migraines. I got them when I took NDT. I don't convert

T4 to T3 very well, so it built up T4 in my system. The main sympton of this was

migraine (about every two weeks).

I'm also oestrogen dominant. Again, the worst symptom of this for me was

migraine (plus PMS). I use natural progesterone cream which fixed the migraines

once and for all (hurrah!). I still get headaches twice a month (not migraines

though), and am trying DIM for these.

I'm on 62.5mcg T3 and adrenal support (5mg Prednisolone + Nutri Adrenal x 4)for

hypo.

Hope this helps.

Love

Sue

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> > >TSH 0.01 (0.10-4.00)

> > >T4 7.6 (11.0-22.0)

> > >T3 6.5 (3.5-6.5)

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I have quite a history with regards to headaches. Prior to being ill always

prone.

When ill and on no thyroid replacement, a daily/chronic headache.

On some thyroid treatment but still very ill: a daily hang-over feeling.

Currently neither of the above but as I say this undiagnosed migrane thing.

I am wondering then that: perhaps as a rule headaches can result for many people

if they are not inadequate treatment, but the type of headache varies from

person to person.

Certainly I can imagine all sorts of horrendous headaches in people if thyroid

treatment isn't correct.

Fiona

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> I have quite a history with regards to headaches. Prior to being ill always prone.> When ill and on no thyroid replacement, a daily/chronic headache.> On some thyroid treatment but still very ill: a daily hang-over feeling.> Currently neither of the above but as I say this undiagnosed migrane thing.

Hello Fiona,

I watched an interview with Dr. Myhill some months ago - and if I remember correctly, she maintained that chronic migraines/bad headaches can be treated with high doses of Magnesium citrate quite successfully.

If anybody has this video, would you please email it to me privately or post the link on here. I've been searching high and low for it and can't find it again......

Best wishes,

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> I watched an interview with Dr. Myhill some months ago - and if I

> remember correctly, she maintained that chronic migraines/bad headaches can be

treated with high doses of Magnesium citrate quite successfully.

>

Hello . Interesting info!

I am already taking a decent dose of Magnesium (malate not citrate) orally which

has been advised.

I am wondering if she meant injections or an unusually high dose.

Would be interested to know what doses is best in that context and if what I am

using is sufficient or if malate or citrate is better in this situation.

Cheers

Fiona.

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> Hello . Interesting info!> > I am already taking a decent dose of Magnesium (malate not citrate) orally which has been advised.> > I am wondering if she meant injections or an unusually high dose.> > Would be interested to know what doses is best in that context and if what I am using is sufficient or if malate or citrate is better in this situation.

Hi Fiona,

For the life of me I can't remember which dose she mentioned in the inteview, but I am pretty certain (though not sure) she said Mag citrate and she did not talk about injections. I remember that the dose was much higher than the one I am taking daily, and I take 600 mg - so it might have been in excess of 1000 mg during an attack, but I am guessing.

I am hoping that someone somewhere has got the link to this tv-interview. It's fairly recent (within months), because Dr. M. was commenting amongst other things about her being reported to the GMC for recommending B12 injections to one of her patients- so it must have been before she got trialled for that.

I believe I have even posted the link to this (1 hourly) interview on here in one of the threads... but I am useless at retrieving information from the forum - can anybody have a go and try and find it?

Thanks,

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> I believe I have even posted the link to this (1 hourly) interview on> here in one of the threads... but I am useless at retrieving information> from the forum - can anybody have a go and try and find it?

I've just tried to google the interview on the net - but to no avail.... all I could find out was that it appears to have been a Sky interview with Theo Chalmers back in May 2010, but I can't find the actual interview.... - please can someone help? I could kick myself for not filing it when I had it, it was so very informative on quite a number of issues.

love,

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yje8ghMAAHA ? this one? various myhill videos

on this site, looks likes a series of them:

http://www.youtube.com/user/IllegalCombatAnt#p/u

chris

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> I've just tried to google the interview on the net - but to no avail....

> all I could find out was that it appears to have been a Sky interview

> with Theo Chalmers back in May 2010, but I can't find the actual

> interview.... - please can someone help? I could kick myself for not

> filing it when I had it, it was so very informative on quite a number of

> issues.

>

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Could it be that the interview between Theo Chalmers featuring Dr. Myhill has been lost in

the ether when the show '

Edge Media' was removed. See http://www.edgemediatv.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2431

Luv - Sheila

> I believe I have even posted the link to this

(1 hourly) interview on

> here in one of the threads... but I am useless at retrieving information

> from the forum - can anybody have a go and try and find it?

I've just tried to google the interview on the net - but to no

avail.... all I could find out was that it appears to have been a Sky interview

with Theo Chalmers back in May 2010, but I can't find the actual interview....

- please can someone help? I could kick myself for not filing it when I had it,

it was so very informative on quite a number of issues.

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> Could it be that the interview between Theo Chalmers featuring Dr.

> Myhill has been lost in the ether when the show '

> Edge Media' was removed. See

> http://www.edgemediatv.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2431

>

Yeah it could well be that one, if it was an interview that was over an hour

long. I will take a look at that you-tube one though.

I am currently taking 3000mg Magnesium Malate a day. Plus you get some magnesium

in the adrenal supplements.

From what I recall the differences to do with malate and citrate are to do with

how well it's tolerated and for some reason I was advised to take Malate.

I can assume that I am convering the bases with regards to headache prevention

and Magnesium.

Sigh... something for the consultant as it's easy to think you are not so bad,

then this happens.

Fiona

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Brilliant, - you are a star . Many thanks. Sadly the various video clips do not show the whole of the interview, but it's well worth listening to them all. I've clicked on them all, and in some I could not get any sound or the sound suddenly went – but the bit about migraines and magnesium is there.... you'll find it at the very end of controvertial 6.m4v and the very beginning of 7.m4v . I remembered wrongly about dosages (she does not mention any) and Dr. M. also does not mention which type of Magnesium – she just says 'magnesium' and mentions that in New York there used to be a clinic were patients with migraines could just wander in and get Magnesium iv and it would clear the migraine straight away..... however, since Mag iv is probably not an option here (just imagine walking into A & E and asking for a Mag drip ;o)) the next best thing IMO would be Mag citrate tablets, because citrate is – I think – the one that gets best absorbed and causes the least bowel upset. Even better might be Magnesium spray, but you'd need quite a lot of that, I believe. I read somewhere that 10 pumps equal ~ 150 mg.... not sure if that's true though, but it should say on the bottle.

Yes, Sheila, I believe you are right – the videos would have been lost when "Edge media" was taken off the air. Such a shame Chalmers interviews dug up some really interesting stuff - but at least there's good old u-tube

Love,

xx

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> Hi -The interview can be found on the Thyroid UK website Go to older news and it is the first thing there and there is still a recording .

Hi ,

This sounds wonderful, but I must be blind .... I've searched and searched - can't find it ... would it be possible for you to provide me with the actual link, please ? - either on here or privately....

Many thanks,

xx

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http://picasaweb.google.com/supportdrmyhill/videos#5473706453049169202

http://www.thyroiduk.org.uk/tuk/news.html

Dr Myhill on the Theo Chalmers Show

Dr Myhill talked about her approach to medicine, various different reasons why

people are ill and her GMC hearing on Theo Chalmer's show " On theEdge " . People

were also able to text in questions for to answer.

The interview was excellent - there should be more of them!

The whole show can be watched at:

http://picasaweb.google.com/supportdrmyhill/videos#5473706453049169202

> --- In thyroid treatment , " mary36white "

>

> This sounds wonderful, but I must be blind .... I've searched and

> searched - can't find it [#-o] [:((] ... would it be possible for

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We

do ask on the Home Page

message of this forum web site, and in our 'Necessary Rules' that is now

being sent out automatically on a monthly basis to all TPA members that members

should please cite

references to information you post from web sites and books, so members can

check the information for themselves. We all need to get into the habit of

doing this wherever we can. All you have to do is to go to the very top bar to

find the web site URL or copy other URLs that are in publications.

Luv -

Sheila

> Hi -The interview can be found on

the Thyroid UK website Go to older news and it is the first thing there and

there is still a recording .

Hi ,

This sounds wonderful, but I must be blind .... I've searched and

searched - can't find it

....

would it be possible for you to provide me with the actual link, please ?

- either on here or privately....

Many thanks,

xx

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