Guest guest Posted November 27, 2010 Report Share Posted November 27, 2010 Hi Folks Just wanted to share a little gratitude (which, as you know, is hard to come by when facing down Graves disease!!). As you may know I was seen at the big London eye hospital by the TED surgeon last week who was concerned by my yoyoing levels and said best bet for my eyes was thyroidectomy. I was feeling so ill (and have been throughout) that, by this point, that sounded like a tempting solution. I then had my blood tested and on a combination of 30mg then 25mg carbimazole and lots of propranolol my blood results came back as still hyper - even having gone up a bit. I really did feel like sh*t by this point and very much at the end of my rope. I also discussed my medical history with the surgeon and said (when scanning the litany of 'stress reactions', 'depression', 'severe anxiety' etc etc)that I thought most of that was 'untreated Graves'. He said, 'Undoubtedly'. So that's FIVE YEARS of undetected Graves despite seeing a huge list of doctors. I emailed the endo the results with a heavy heart, feeling rather resigned to aggressive surgery (in fact rather keen to just the whole business over with). And then ... GET THIS... My endo rang me at home to reassure me that my results were fine, I was a little over, but only just, and overall I was going the right way. He said it was more important that I do not go hypo and it was a marathon not a sprint. That I needed to trust him and be patient and he was going to try and save my thyroid. He said (and I think its rare for an endo to say this) that blood results and symptoms often have a two week time lag so you can be feeling hypo and turn up a hyper blood test, and vice versa depending which way the levels are going. That they don't always match. He also said he had noticed I was very sensitive to biochemical changes in my body which is why I was having such a tricky time with it all and he felt thyroidectomy - and rendering myself for ever hypo - would 'condemn' me (he used that word a lot) to being unable to go back to life as before. He said some people don't tolerate synthetic meds nor the fillers and that, medically, that would leave me few options. I probably wouldn't cope with the tweaking and swings. He alluded to the thyroid madness and the difficulty some patients have finding a way through (without saying so of course, not putting words in his mouth). He's changed my dose, will see me in ten days and test my blood himself. The reason I share this is not to show off (!!) but because I am grateful - I found this Doc on Sheila's list, he is testing me fortnightly, he wants to save my thyroid, he's listening, and whilst he has to be careful what he says, he's letting me know that he knows that some patients have an horrific time with hypo and he's not going to whip my thyroid out unless there's a darn good reason and we've had a good shot at remission. The final thing I want to say is - and he's told me this before and its in Elaine 's book - that I feel that he's got a grip on how Graves affects the personality. I feel he's slowing me down and stopping me doing anything rash. Graves patients are often 'up' and these impulsive traits can be mistaken for reality (and used by doctors to talk you into stuff!!) when in fact they are symptoms of the disease. I just wanted to offer any other Graves patients facing tough choices a bit of hope that there are good doctors out there (and if yours is not, go and get one who is!!!), but I also wanted to say maybe slow down and don't do anything hasty - there's a chance it's your illness not you making the decisions. Surgery is irreversible - and whilst its often a good choice for lots of people, its not for everyone and I'm very glad that in my case it's going to be a last resort. Oh and i've stopped smoking (I'd cut down but been delaying the final step)! Operation save my thyroid just gone up another gear! I'm going to do EVERYTHING in my power to regain my health. Two tonnes of herbs arriving by post any minute now as well so along with the drugs, reike, meditation, yoga, saunas, massage, reflexology, prayer, lots of walking, and plenty of creativity (depending on who you believe, thyroid is a blockage in your throat chakra - I can't sing a note and I'm about to have a singing lesson!!!)I think I'm well on my way. Luv x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2010 Report Share Posted November 27, 2010 <tonnes of herbs arriving by post any minute now as well so along with the drugs, reike, meditation, yoga, saunas, massage, reflexology, prayer, lots of walking, and plenty of creativity (depending on who you believe, thyroid is a blockage in your throat chakra - I can't sing a note and I'm about to have a singing lesson!!!)I think I'm well on my way.>Great news I do meditation, yoga, reiki, chakra balancing etc. Would love to hear how the singing lesson went, as I cannot sing a note either and have often thought about lessons.I'm hypo by the way, and Graves sounds just dreadful. I am sure you are on the right path now, keep going and be kind to yourself along the way.LuvSue Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2010 Report Share Posted November 27, 2010 Nice to read a success story :0) Congratulations on finding a decent endo who actually listens and doesn't want to do anything drastic if there is an alternative. It sounds like you are on the right track. I'm amazed that he actually admitted that hypo patients don't all do well on synthetic meds; I'm hypo and very sensitive to the slightest change in meds, and synthetic T4 only was a disaster for me. Um, can I be cheeky and ask if you can e-mail his details to me; not sure he'll be in my area but... Congrats on stopping smoking too. Louise. > > Hi Folks > > Just wanted to share a little gratitude (which, as you know, is hard to come by when facing down Graves disease!!). As you may know I was seen at the big London eye hospital by the TED surgeon last week who was concerned by my yoyoing levels and said best bet for my eyes was thyroidectomy. I was feeling so ill (and have been throughout) that, by this point, that sounded like a tempting solution. > > I then had my blood tested and on a combination of 30mg then 25mg carbimazole and lots of propranolol my blood results came back as still hyper - even having gone up a bit. I really did feel like sh*t by this point and very much at the end of my rope. I also discussed my medical history with the surgeon and said (when scanning the litany of 'stress reactions', 'depression', 'severe anxiety' etc etc)that I thought most of that was 'untreated Graves'. He said, 'Undoubtedly'. So that's FIVE YEARS of undetected Graves despite seeing a huge list of doctors. > > I emailed the endo the results with a heavy heart, feeling rather resigned to aggressive surgery (in fact rather keen to just the whole business over with). > > And then ... GET THIS... My endo rang me at home to reassure me that my results were fine, I was a little over, but only just, and overall I was going the right way. He said it was more important that I do not go hypo and it was a marathon not a sprint. That I needed to trust him and be patient and he was going to try and save my thyroid. > > He said (and I think its rare for an endo to say this) that blood results and symptoms often have a two week time lag so you can be feeling hypo and turn up a hyper blood test, and vice versa depending which way the levels are going. That they don't always match. > > He also said he had noticed I was very sensitive to biochemical changes in my body which is why I was having such a tricky time with it all and he felt thyroidectomy - and rendering myself for ever hypo - would 'condemn' me (he used that word a lot) to being unable to go back to life as before. He said some people don't tolerate synthetic meds nor the fillers and that, medically, that would leave me few options. I probably wouldn't cope with the tweaking and swings. He alluded to the thyroid madness and the difficulty some patients have finding a way through (without saying so of course, not putting words in his mouth). He's changed my dose, will see me in ten days and test my blood himself. > > The reason I share this is not to show off (!!) but because I am grateful - I found this Doc on Sheila's list, he is testing me fortnightly, he wants to save my thyroid, he's listening, and whilst he has to be careful what he says, he's letting me know that he knows that some patients have an horrific time with hypo and he's not going to whip my thyroid out unless there's a darn good reason and we've had a good shot at remission. > > The final thing I want to say is - and he's told me this before and its in Elaine 's book - that I feel that he's got a grip on how Graves affects the personality. I feel he's slowing me down and stopping me doing anything rash. Graves patients are often 'up' and these impulsive traits can be mistaken for reality (and used by doctors to talk you into stuff!!) when in fact they are symptoms of the disease. I just wanted to offer any other Graves patients facing tough choices a bit of hope that there are good doctors out there (and if yours is not, go and get one who is!!!), but I also wanted to say maybe slow down and don't do anything hasty - there's a chance it's your illness not you making the decisions. Surgery is irreversible - and whilst its often a good choice for lots of people, its not for everyone and I'm very glad that in my case it's going to be a last resort. > > Oh and i've stopped smoking (I'd cut down but been delaying the final step)! Operation save my thyroid just gone up another gear! I'm going to do EVERYTHING in my power to regain my health. Two tonnes of herbs arriving by post any minute now as well so along with the drugs, reike, meditation, yoga, saunas, massage, reflexology, prayer, lots of walking, and plenty of creativity (depending on who you believe, thyroid is a blockage in your throat chakra - I can't sing a note and I'm about to have a singing lesson!!!)I think I'm well on my way. > > Luv > > > x > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2010 Report Share Posted November 27, 2010 , That's great news that you now have a clued up doctor.... and well done for quitting smoking. Cutting down is a dreadful way to do it though, it just prolongs the agony. Suggest you go to whyquit.com and download a free quit meter. (I use quit time) It keeps a tally of how much you've not smoked and how much you've saved. I quit in February and am now £1,500 less in debt than I would have been x > > Hi Folks > Oh and i've stopped smoking (I'd cut down but been delaying the final step)! > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 27, 2010 Report Share Posted November 27, 2010 Hi I know, but with thyroid eye disease it's 'dose related' so smoking less is almost as beneficial for your eyes are stopping and to be honest I've been feeling so ill that its only now that I've been able to physically handle full blown withdrawal as well as Graves symptoms. I'll have a look at the calculator although going to do it the old fashioned way and just put £6 a day in a jam jar!! Thanks > >Cutting down is a dreadful way to do it though, it just prolongs the agony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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