Guest guest Posted November 30, 2010 Report Share Posted November 30, 2010 I found this on the internet while looking for something else, and thought people might be interested in it. The summary says: Treatment (brand name, manufacturer): Armour thyroid (thyroid tablets USP, Forrest Pharmaceuticals) and other non- UK licensed products For the treatment of: Hypothyroidism Background: Armour thyroid has been requested by patients who would like such treatment to be funded by the NHS despite the availability of UK-licensed thyroxine products. Commissioning position: Armour thyroid for the treatment of hypothyroidism is not routinely funded. Effective from: 24th September 2010 Summary of evidence: Armour thyroid is not a licensed medicine in the UK. Licensed thyroxine preparations are available and widely prescribed. There is no rationale behind the use of a combination of levothyroxine and liothyronine, or of dried thyroid hormone extracts. A combination of the two, in both non- and physiological proportions, has not consistently been shown to be more beneficial than levothyroxine alone with respect to cognitive function, social functioning and wellbeing in a limited number of patients. Regards Nadia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2010 Report Share Posted December 1, 2010 I have seen this statement being bandied around by several PCT's and Endocrinologists giving out copies to their patients who dare ask for a trial of natural thyroid extract. This is cruel in the extreme, and I would like to ask each and every doctor who does this to do the research necessary to check whether such a statement has any truth in it or not, and not just to take the word of the British Thyroid Association who first wrote this. They put out such information because they know that should they let it be known that natural thyroid extract makes sufferers of the symptoms of hypothyroidism well again, the drug companies who manufacture levothyroxine (or the key workers in the thyroid world) would no longer be making the millions of pounds they are. Natural product cannot be patented so no money can be made, but synthetics can. Their response speaks volumes. We have responded on numerous occasions to the RCP and BTA et al asking them to cite references to the scientific evidence to back up their statements, but never once have they done this. In my own rebuttal to their statement, I cited over 140 references to show their statements are wrong - see http://www.tpa-uk.org.uk/resp_bta_armour.pdf I would suggest that you write to the Yorkshire and Humber Armour giving them a copy of the above response which came from Thyroid Patient Advocacy Registered Charity - and ask them why they continue to ignore the scientific evidence that has been available for over 40 years that shows a large minority of sufferers are unable to regain normal health on levothyroxine alone, and why the are leaving so many patients without the thyroid hormone replacement that would make them well. They have no right to refuse sufferers of the symptoms of hypothyroidism a choice of treatment if the synthetic levothyroxine doesn't work for them. Send them copies also of the letters from the MHRA that tells doctors they can prescribe natural thyroid extract if levothyroxine doesn't work (see attached) but because it remains unlicensed in the UK, the responsibility for prescribing it lies with the doctor. Tell them also that we are in the process of compiling a register of counterexamples to levothyroxine-only therapy who remained with symptoms whilst taking T4 only and yet regained their health again when T3 was added, either synthetic or their medication was changed to natural desiccated thyroid extract. So far, we have 485 counterexamples in our register. This number is greater than the number of participants who took part in their flawed clinical trials using T4/T3 combination therapy that showed adding T3 was no better than using T4-only. Natural thyroid extract was the ONLY medication given to ALL sufferers of hypothyroidism for over 50 years before the synthetic levothyroxine was manufactured, and then NDT fell out of favour as doctors were told levothyroxine was the gold standard and worked for everybody. We have since found out that it does not. It is the harm that such statements are causing to patients that worries me. As far as the NHS is concerned, if you are unable to tolerate synthetic levothyroxine, you are left to suffer the symptoms which gradually get worse, leaving patients without any other treatment to help them, and now, the RCP and BTA are recommending that not even synthetic T3 is needed because T4 does everything. Ever since Professor Weetman had his paper " Whose Thyroid Hormone is it Anyway? " published in Medscape and Clinical Endocrinology, where he wrote that those patients who still complained of symptoms of hypothyroidism who had normal thyroid function test results, and who were taking levothyroxine are suffering from a " functional somatoform disorder " - meaning, it's all in our head, that doctors have now convinced themselves we are a load of moaners who need antidepressants and who tell their patients to get more exercise, go on a diet or " get a life " . If ONLY doctors would think for themselves and not hide behind the skirts of the BTA who are very, very wrong. Let us know how you get on Nadia should you wish to respond to them. Luv - Sheila I found this on the internet while looking for something else, and thought people might be interested in it. The summary says: Treatment (brand name, manufacturer): Armour thyroid (thyroid tablets USP, Forrest Pharmaceuticals) and other non- UK licensed products For the treatment of: Hypothyroidism Background: Armour thyroid has been requested by patients who would like such treatment to be funded by the NHS despite the availability of UK-licensed thyroxine products. Commissioning position: Armour thyroid for the treatment of hypothyroidism is not routinely funded. Effective from: 24th September 2010 Summary of evidence: Armour thyroid is not a licensed medicine in the UK. Licensed thyroxine preparations are available and widely prescribed. There is no rationale behind the use of a combination of levothyroxine and liothyronine, or of dried thyroid hormone extracts. A combination of the two, in both non- and physiological proportions, has not consistently been shown to be more beneficial than levothyroxine alone with respect to cognitive function, social functioning and wellbeing in a limited number of patients. Regards Nadia 1 of 1 File(s) MHRA confirmation re Natur1.doc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2010 Report Share Posted December 1, 2010 I can see that they talk about armour, but they also talk about not using T3. This is patentable i think so there must also be another reason why they dont want patients using T3. I wonder if it is due to the extra cost in bloods testing etc. Seems crazy as it is much better to have healthy people using less drugs. Also getting the labs to fully adopt full thyroid testing surely cannot be that much more expensive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2010 Report Share Posted December 1, 2010 Oh, right that is very interesting. It will be good to find out if this is true in the future. If it does come to fruition then we will get access to some form of T3 i suppose. In the meantime most are denied proper care. > > I believe the BTA and RCP are discouraging practitioners from prescribing > any form of T3, either synthetic or natural because a certain professor > beloved by all is (ahem!), with the aid of another professor, is very > involved in the patenting of a slow release T3. I believe that leaving us > all without any form of T3 is going to make thousands of us sufferers of the > symptoms of hypothyroidism very ill, so once this patent is released > (heavens knows when), trumpets will sound from above that this slow release > T3 is the saviour for us all. It will make the drug companies millions and > th Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2010 Report Share Posted December 1, 2010 Here here . I think both time and expense are a lot to do with why they don't prescribe T3. As well as doing the blood tests they have to be trained how to interpret them. Its so much easier just to look at TSH and say yes you need some more thyroxine or no you don't. Regards, Lin Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 1, 2010 Report Share Posted December 1, 2010 I found a very interesting article which seems to spread further light on the blood cell activity http://www.ei-resource.org/articles/related-conditions-articles/temperature-dysr\ egulation-in-stress/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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