Re: Desperate Can I Have Some Dr Recommendations Please

[Guest guest]

I know I keep on about this, but it is vital that you get the

following checked out to see if any are low in the reference range. Doctors do

not know about the connection with low ferritin, vitamin B12 vitamin D3,

magnesium, folate, copper and zinc to thyroid hormone not being able to get

into the cells until these conditions are treated with supplements. Also is

there a possibility you could have mercury poisoning through amalgam fillings

or systemic candidiasis. Again, if these are not treated, your thyroid

replacement will not work. Your GP should be able to do the above tests apart

from the candida (you would need to get that tested privately). I very much

doubt you will find it is your Westhroid/Erfa that is not working, unless you

have a reverse T3 problem - in which case, you need to stop the NDT and use

only increasing doses of synthetic T3 until you have got rid of the rT3. Do you

have any recent thyroid function results you could post here Louise together with

the reference range for each test done.

Luv - Sheila

I have been slowly deteriorating on

Westhroid/Erfa since " old " Armour became unavailable and I am now

pretty desperate, so I wonder if anyone has any Dr. recommendations? I take T4,

desiccated thyroid and HC so I'm really looking for someone who is sympathetic

to all of that and who knows how to treat it. I would like to hear about Drs

regardless of cost and or location. It's not that I've suddenly got money to

throw around rather that I don't want to waste what little I have.

I realise Drs names mustn't be mentioned on the group so please could you

e-mail me about this.

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[Guest guest]

Hi Louise

Did you feel ok on the 'old ' armour?

Chris

[Guest guest]

On Fri, 03 Dec 2010 11:44:10 -0000, you wrote:

>I have been slowly deteriorating on Westhroid/Erfa since " old " Armour became

unavailable and I am now pretty desperate,

When Armour reformulated I went onto " Greater Pharma " Thiroid and

found it even better than old armour.

I've gone to T3 only since then but if you are OK on the old Armour

it's worth a try, it took about a week to arrive and was around £100

for 1000 grains

Nick

[Guest guest]

Hello Sheila, I can't get anything but ferritin tested on the NHS and I'm

waiting for a result on that one. I have to get my thyroid tests done privately

and I'm waiting for a result from the last one. I've been supplementing the

others you mention but I can't get any of these tested. So I'm really looking

for someone who knows about all of these things.

Louise.

>

> I know I keep on about this, but it is vital that you get the following

> checked out to see if any are low in the reference range. Doctors do not

> know about the connection with low ferritin, vitamin B12 vitamin D3,

> magnesium, folate, copper and zinc to thyroid hormone not being able to get

> into the cells until these conditions are treated with supplements. Also is

> there a possibility you could have mercury poisoning through amalgam

> fillings or systemic candidiasis. Again, if these are not treated, your

> thyroid replacement will not work. Your GP should be able to do the above

> tests apart from the candida (you would need to get that tested privately).

> I very much doubt you will find it is your Westhroid/Erfa that is not

> working, unless you have a reverse T3 problem - in which case, you need to

> stop the NDT and use only increasing doses of synthetic T3 until you have

> got rid of the rT3. Do you have any recent thyroid function results you

> could post here Louise together with the reference range for each test done.

>

> Luv - Sheila

[Guest guest]

Hello yes, I miss the old formula Armour it was the best NDT I've tried

so far and I was starting to feel like me again. I couldn't tolerate it without

the HC although I had been able to cut the HC down a little whilst on old

Armour. The new formula Armour made me ill and I've tried just about all the

other available brands of NDT but none of them are as good as old Armour.

I probably need other things tested too which is why I'm looking for a Dr now

(NHS won't do them).

Louise.

>

> Hi Louise

>

> Did you feel ok on the 'old ' armour?

>

> Chris

>

[Guest guest]

Hello Nick, I think I've tried both the Thai versions of NDT the other one was

Thyroid S and I couldn't get on with them. It could just be that I'm not on the

right dose or it could be something else and the NHS, well my surgery anyway,

are useless and won't test for anything but ferritin, I can't even get them to

test the free T3. I'm really looking for someone who knows about thyroid,

adrenals and all the other related stuff too.

Thanks,

Louise.

>

> >I have been slowly deteriorating on Westhroid/Erfa since " old " Armour became

unavailable and I am now pretty desperate,

>

> When Armour reformulated I went onto " Greater Pharma " Thiroid and

> found it even better than old armour.

>

> I've gone to T3 only since then but if you are OK on the old Armour

> it's worth a try, it took about a week to arrive and was around £100

> for 1000 grains

>

> Nick

>

[Guest guest]

Hi, I've been on the Thai " Thiroyd " and for me it's great stuff! I pop the

tablet into the pocket between my cheek and gum and let it dissolve over 15

minutes or so. The tablets they shipped me were so fresh, only days old.

What dose of dessicated thyroid were you on, and did you take enough time

building up the dose? Some people need up to 5 grains a day -- I personally need

4 grains split as 3 doses. I had to build up to that over about 6 months.

I wonder if your nutrition is otherwise okay. Are you getting enough of the

supporting nutrients? In particular, vitamin C? For me, vitamin C made the

biggest difference in my T4-T3 conversion -- 1,000 mg of C four times a day with

food gives me the most unbelievable energy boost. Remember that C should be

taken throughout the day so that there's a continuous supply, similar to what

animals have, because they make their own ascorbate in their bodies

continuously. I get other supporting nutrients (selenium, magnesium) from leafy

greens, raw nuts and seeds.

This is simple stuff, hope it may help. Good luck! :-)

Best,

Olive Oyl.

>

> Hello Nick, I think I've tried both the Thai versions of NDT the other one was

Thyroid S and I couldn't get on with them. It could just be that I'm not on the

right dose or it could be something else and the NHS, well my surgery anyway,

are useless and won't test for anything but ferritin, I can't even get them to

test the free T3. I'm really looking for someone who knows about thyroid,

adrenals and all the other related stuff too.

[Guest guest]

Thanks for your advice and sending the list Sheila. Also I now have my ferritin

result and it's low as usual but I was half expecting this. I still haven't got

the results of the private thyroid test but they are usually long-winded.

I don't think writing to the surgery will help, other than the letter being in

my records, as they are just not interested. My Dr will ask for a thyroid test

including T3 but the lab refuse to do T3.

I've already seen two endos on the NHS and had various tests including the

synacthen test; which of course didn't show anything wrong.

The NHS have been little to no help so far, so I don't really expect them to do

anything any more.

Really what I would like is to find a Dr who knows about all the related stuff,

vitamins ect, as well as the hormonal side of things so it doesn't necessarily

have to be an endo so this is why I was hoping for people's reviews.

Thanks,

Louise.

>

> Write a letter to your GP and to the head of practice and say that

> scientific research shows that if you are low in ferritin, vitamin B12,

> vitamin D3, magnesium, folate, copper or zinc showing in your blood tests,

> that thyroid hormone, either your own or thyroid hormone replacement cannot

> get into the cells and that you need these testing. Tell them that you are

> aware that these can be tested within the NHS and if the surgery is refusing

> to test these for you, would they please have the courtesy to write to let

> you know their reasons for refusing you these tests, and to point you to the

> scientific evidence to show their refusal to do such tests is correct. Tell

> them that you are prepared to give them such evidence regarding the

> connection if they are not already aware of this. Ask also that they let you

> have the serum ferritin test results together with the reference interval

> for that test within the next 7 days as you have previously ask for this but

> heard nothing from them. At the same time, put in writing that you wish to

> have a full thyroid function test to include TSH, free T4, free T3 and tests

> to see if you have any thyroid antibodies and that if they refuses to do

> these tests, then to refer you to an endocrinologist of your choice. Give

> them 7 working days to respond.

>

> Good luck

>

> Luv - Sheila

>

> PS - I have sent you my list of recommended endocrinologists, both private

> and NHS privately.