Thyroid problems and diabetes

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I don't have a diagnosis of diabetes, but the test Dr S suggests gave a positive

result. (You can test yourself by getting stix from the chemist. Test in the

urine stream before and for 3 hours after drinking a medium sized bottle of

lucozade.) When I mentioned this to Dr P he commented that I was probably

pre-diabetic.

Dr P said many of the symptoms of diabetes were the same as hypothyroidism, so I

have decided to try a much stricter diet to see what progress I can make that

way.

http://thyroid.about.com/b/2004/01/11/insulin-resistance-a-key-to-weight-loss.ht\

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Miriam

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have you had a fasting glucose test or used one of those diabetic finger prick

meters to see what your sugar levels are like?

chris

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> I don't have a diagnosis of diabetes, but the test Dr S suggests gave a

positive result. (You can test yourself by getting stix from the chemist. Test

in the urine stream before and for 3 hours after drinking a medium sized bottle

of lucozade.) When I mentioned this to Dr P he commented that I was probably

pre-diabetic.

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[Guest guest]

Miriam,

If after drinking a medium sized bottle of lucozade and then testing after three hours and there is an indication of glucose in the urine, I would suggest you go to your doctor and request an HbA1c blood test. This will give an indication has to how you have been over the past three months.

If he asks why you can explain to him what you have done regarding the testing. I suggest you make an appointment to see him now.

Lilian

Thyroid problems and diabetes

I don't have a diagnosis of diabetes, but the test Dr S suggests gave a positive result. (You can test yourself by getting stix from the chemist. Test in the urine stream before and for 3 hours after drinking a medium sized bottle of lucozade.) When I mentioned this to Dr P he commented that I was probably pre-diabetic.Dr P said many of the symptoms of diabetes were the same as hypothyroidism, so I have decided to try a much stricter diet to see what progress I can make that way.http://thyroid.about.com/b/2004/01/11/insulin-resistance-a-key-to-weight-loss.htmMiriam------------------------------------TPA is not medically qualified. Consult with a qualified medical practitioner before changing medication.

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Dr S says the NHS tests are not sensitive enough and miss many cases of

diabetes. I may have had a fasting glucose test at some time, but if it is not

a sensitive enough test then a negative result won't be reassuring.

Miriam

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> > I don't have a diagnosis of diabetes, but the test Dr S suggests gave a

positive result. (You can test yourself by getting stix from the chemist. Test

in the urine stream before and for 3 hours after drinking a medium sized bottle

of lucozade.) When I mentioned this to Dr P he commented that I was probably

pre-diabetic.

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From what I can see the HbA1c test shows what glucose levels have been like over

a long period of time. Is that right? I doubt that would pick up anything as I

have been following a low carb diet for years. Dr S says that is the very

reason the NHS standard tests fail to pick up diabetes in many cases.

The reason I posted about this topic was because I was interested in the woman's

account of having to treat her diabetes before she could get her thyroid

treatment right.

" I have struggled with Hypothyroidism for 19 years! Without boring you with

details, 2 years ago I adopted a low-carb diet and exercised religiously to lose

40 lbs, only to have 15 of them come back recently with no explanation. The

addition of a drug called Glucophage XL (extended release metformin) has helped

tremendously by sensitizing my cells to my own insulin, reducing the amount of

glucose my intestines absorb, and turning down my liver's glucose production.

Lower blood sugar means lower insulin, which means my body stores less fat, and

is now burning my fat stores for fuel! The 15 lbs are gone! AND....I have cut my

dose of Armour Thyroid in half! Yes, I am still hypothyroid, but it was the

insulin resistance that was causing most of my symptoms. The weight problem,

huge appetite, fatigue, brain fog, joint pain, bleeding gums, numb feet, yeast

infections, low basal body temperature, easy bruising and slow wound healing

have all been resolved over the past 4 months. AND....my blood pressure has

fallen to within ideal normal ranges, as have my cholesterol levels! "

Miriam

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> Miriam,

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> If after drinking a medium sized bottle of lucozade and then testing after

three hours and there is an indication of glucose in the urine, I would suggest

you go to your doctor and request an HbA1c blood test. This will give an

indication has to how you have been over the past three months.

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> If he asks why you can explain to him what you have done regarding the

testing. I suggest you make an appointment to see him now.

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> Lilian

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i think some doctors give metformin for predeiabetes? or maybe that's an

american thing:

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_hb4365/is_7_40/ai_n29387996/

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> > > I don't have a diagnosis of diabetes, but the test Dr S suggests gave a

positive result. (You can test yourself by getting stix from the chemist. Test

in the urine stream before and for 3 hours after drinking a medium sized bottle

of lucozade.) When I mentioned this to Dr P he commented that I was probably

pre-diabetic.

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[Guest guest]

insulin resistance has also been linked to depression by some doctors and

metformin seems to have helped some people with depression. i think it

(metformin) is used in metabolic syndrome, sometimes, but it can lower b12, and

testosterone levels (probably not a concern for weomen!)

sorry to go off on a tangent, but dr mcleod wrote about using chromium to treat

atypical depression, which i think he speculated could be linked to insulin

resistance if i remember rightly - chromium is supposed to help insulin

sensitivity i think

C

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Although some websites say Metformin doesn't stimulate the pancreas to produce

more insulin, other websites and books say that it does. They warn that in the

long term this can compromise the pancreas' ability to produce any and the

patient begins to need insulin injections. So it sounds like it might be OK for

the short-term, but not for the long-term.

Miriam

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> i think some doctors give metformin for predeiabetes? or maybe that's an

american thing:

http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_hb4365/is_7_40/ai_n29387996/

[Guest guest]

Metformin helps the cells to utilise insulin better.   Sulphonyrea type tablets help the pancrease to increase insulin.     I am on insulin AND metformin.    Therefore if metformin was to increase insulin from the pancreas it is a bitdaft because all I need to do is increase the insulin dose if more insulin is needed.  But I am insulin resistant so however much insulin my pancreas might make, or I might inject, the metformin helps the resistance to it.     So it is pointless to have a pill which increases insulin from the pancreas when the body is resisting all insulin.   Metformin is to help insulin resistance.    A lot of people with type 2 diabetes is not because the pancreas is not producing insulin, in fact it can be producing more insulin than a non diabetic person, it is the fact that they are insulin resistant that is the problem.

 

Lilian

 

 some websites say Metformin doesn't stimulate the pancreas to produce more insulin, other websites and books say that it does.

[Guest guest]

Thanks Lilian. Perhaps some of these books/websites are getting the two mixed

up.

Miriam

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> Metformin helps the cells to utilise insulin better. Sulphonyrea type

tablets help the pancreas to increase insulin.