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Hi Mark,

Yep, that looks like a conversion problem because the T4 is good and the t3 is

low.

So, probably in addition to not converting you may now have high reverse T3,

which will stop any t3 you do have getting into the cells. Reverse T3 is made

to break down unconverted t4. Stopping T4 eventually gets rid of the reverse

t3.

I would get a reverse t3 and a free t3 done on the same day, so you can see your

ratio. and if it's less than 20, you could start t3 only.

Selenium and Vit C are essential for conversion, but I suspect you're going to

need more help than that

And it may be worth writing to the docs, saying that his treatment of you isn't

working and asking for a referral to an endo of your choice. He obviously

isn't a specialist. List all your signs and symtoms, (list in the files

section) and your basal temperature taken for several days before you get out

of bed. Send a copy to the head of practice too. Research the endo's very

carefully though.

Come the revolution I'll make sure these doctors are dealt with.. (if only!)

:)

.

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> Hi ALL, Genova Diagnostics recently carried out a Thyroid Test on me and the

following results came back.

>

> TSH 2.5 MIU/L(ref 1-2) HIGH

> FT4 20.5 pmol/L (ref 12-20) HIGH

> FT3 2.9 pmol/L (ref 3.4-6.0) LOW

> FT4:FT3 Ratio 7.0 (ref 2.5-4.0) HIGH

>

> My GP does not seem interested in looking into it any further so I have been

left to sort it out myself.

>

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Hi Mark, If you doc isn't interested then request a referral to an endo-one who specialises in thyroid not diabetes. you are showing a classic inability to convert T4 into T3. You need to replace some or all of the T4 with T3, or to use a dessicated thyroid which contains all the hormones a healthy thyroid produces. > thyroid treatment > Subject: Thyroid Test Results & Iodine> > Hi ALL, Genova Diagnostics recently carried out a Thyroid Test on me and the following results came back.> > TSH 2.5 MIU/L(ref 1-2) HIGH> FT4 20.5 pmol/L (ref 12-20) HIGH> FT3 2.9 pmol/L (ref 3.4-6.0) LOW> FT4:FT3 Ratio 7.0 (ref 2.5-4.0) HIGH> > My GP does not seem interested in looking into it any further so I have been left to sort it out myself.> > It would appear from my results that I seem to have a conversion problem, is Iodine likely to resolve this or am I best getting more tests done? as I am wanting to normalise my results one way or another. Would a cortisol test likely help me get to the bottom of the problem.> > Any advice would be most appreciated as it seem as though I have stepped into a minefield trying to sort this out.> > Cheers> Mark> > > > ------------------------------------> > TPA is not medically qualified. Consult with a qualified medical practitioner before changing medication.> >

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On Mon, 08 Nov 2010 10:34:43 -0000, you wrote:

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>My GP does not seem interested in looking into it any further so I have been

left to sort it out myself.

Join the club

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>It would appear from my results that I seem to have a conversion problem, is

Iodine likely to resolve this or am I best getting more tests done? as I am

wanting to normalise my results one way or another. Would a cortisol test likely

help me get to the bottom of the problem.

>

You almost certainly have a Reverse T3 problem causing thyroid

resistance.

Have a look through here

http://thyroid-rt3.com/

and feel free to ask questions

>Any advice would be most appreciated as it seem as though I have stepped into a

minefield trying to sort this out.

There are people around here who know far more than most GPs and

Endos.

Any time FT4 goes over 50% of the range and FT3 is low at the same

time there is a lot of RT3 lurking in there.

The cure is to go T3 only and that web link tells you all about it

You need to get iron and adrenals right first.

Nick

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Good to see you here Mark

Really you should mention your other stuff too. That might make a difference in

the advice you get.

I know T3 can put a strain on your Heart.

Regards

Ian

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> Hi ALL, Genova Diagnostics recently carried out a Thyroid Test on me and the

following results came back.

>

> TSH 2.5 MIU/L(ref 1-2) HIGH

> FT4 20.5 pmol/L (ref 12-20) HIGH

> FT3 2.9 pmol/L (ref 3.4-6.0) LOW

> FT4:FT3 Ratio 7.0 (ref 2.5-4.0) HIGH

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If your adrenals aren't running well, than iodine won't be the answer there.

Adrenals need to be in good condition before you start on the Iodine protocol.

Do you have ferritin lab results? 1/2 teaspoon of unrefined/unprocessed salt

first thing in the morning will help your adrenals. Once your adrenals are up,

adding the iodine will greatly enhance your system.

Cheers,

JOT

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Mark

what were your testosterone results ?

chris

>

> Symptoms that may well be a factor are I seem to get very tired during the

> day and I have suffered from ED for a number of years.

> My GP seems to think there is nothing wrong with my results. I will try

> writing her a letter but I am not holding my breath.

> Thanks Again

> Cheers

> Mark

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isn't there a thyroid connection to lipoprotein a too?

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7669088

Thyroid hormone (fT4) reduces lipoprotein(a) plasma levels.

Hoppichler F, Sandholzer C, Moncayo R, Utermann G, Kraft HG.

Department of Internal Medicine, University of Innsbruck, Austria.

Abstract

To study the influence of thyroid hormone on Lp(a) plasma concentration we

measured Lp(a), total cholesterol, LDL-C, HDL-C, triglycerides and fT4 levels

and determined apo(a) phenotypes in 26 patients with hyperthyroidism in a

follow-up study before and after thyreostatic treatment. The pretreatment values

of total cholesterol (TC), LDL-C, and Lp(a) were significantly reduced as

compared with those of healthy controls. The reduced mean Lp(a) concentrations

could not be explained by a difference of apo(a) 'size allele' frequencies

between patients and controls. During thyreostatic treatment mean concentrations

of TC, LDL-C, and HDL-C increased significantly. The mean Lp(a) value was not

changed after 4 weeks of treatment. The individual changes of Lp(a), however,

correlated significantly with those of LDL-C levels (R = 0.40, P = 0.04).

Eighty-one per cent of the patients showed an increase of Lp(a) or no change of

the Lp(a) level and 19% reacted with a decrease upon thyreostatic treatment. The

observed lipid and lipoprotein changes were not different in patients with

Graves disease or multifocal toxic goiter. The results indicate that Lp(a)

plasma levels are decreased in the hyperthyroid state irrespective of the

pathogenic mechanism

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> Chris

>

> My Testosterone was tested at 18.4 apparently a testosterone level of 25 is

> ideal for tackling Lipoprotein(a) but there is no way my GP will entertain

> me in my quest to reduce my LP(a) using Testosterone when the starting level

> is 18 however much I try and convince her.

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