Guest guest Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 Hi Mark, Yep, that looks like a conversion problem because the T4 is good and the t3 is low. So, probably in addition to not converting you may now have high reverse T3, which will stop any t3 you do have getting into the cells. Reverse T3 is made to break down unconverted t4. Stopping T4 eventually gets rid of the reverse t3. I would get a reverse t3 and a free t3 done on the same day, so you can see your ratio. and if it's less than 20, you could start t3 only. Selenium and Vit C are essential for conversion, but I suspect you're going to need more help than that And it may be worth writing to the docs, saying that his treatment of you isn't working and asking for a referral to an endo of your choice. He obviously isn't a specialist. List all your signs and symtoms, (list in the files section) and your basal temperature taken for several days before you get out of bed. Send a copy to the head of practice too. Research the endo's very carefully though. Come the revolution I'll make sure these doctors are dealt with.. (if only!) . > > Hi ALL, Genova Diagnostics recently carried out a Thyroid Test on me and the following results came back. > > TSH 2.5 MIU/L(ref 1-2) HIGH > FT4 20.5 pmol/L (ref 12-20) HIGH > FT3 2.9 pmol/L (ref 3.4-6.0) LOW > FT4:FT3 Ratio 7.0 (ref 2.5-4.0) HIGH > > My GP does not seem interested in looking into it any further so I have been left to sort it out myself. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 Hi Mark, If you doc isn't interested then request a referral to an endo-one who specialises in thyroid not diabetes. you are showing a classic inability to convert T4 into T3. You need to replace some or all of the T4 with T3, or to use a dessicated thyroid which contains all the hormones a healthy thyroid produces. > thyroid treatment > Subject: Thyroid Test Results & Iodine> > Hi ALL, Genova Diagnostics recently carried out a Thyroid Test on me and the following results came back.> > TSH 2.5 MIU/L(ref 1-2) HIGH> FT4 20.5 pmol/L (ref 12-20) HIGH> FT3 2.9 pmol/L (ref 3.4-6.0) LOW> FT4:FT3 Ratio 7.0 (ref 2.5-4.0) HIGH> > My GP does not seem interested in looking into it any further so I have been left to sort it out myself.> > It would appear from my results that I seem to have a conversion problem, is Iodine likely to resolve this or am I best getting more tests done? as I am wanting to normalise my results one way or another. Would a cortisol test likely help me get to the bottom of the problem.> > Any advice would be most appreciated as it seem as though I have stepped into a minefield trying to sort this out.> > Cheers> Mark> > > > ------------------------------------> > TPA is not medically qualified. Consult with a qualified medical practitioner before changing medication.> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 On Mon, 08 Nov 2010 10:34:43 -0000, you wrote: > > >My GP does not seem interested in looking into it any further so I have been left to sort it out myself. Join the club > >It would appear from my results that I seem to have a conversion problem, is Iodine likely to resolve this or am I best getting more tests done? as I am wanting to normalise my results one way or another. Would a cortisol test likely help me get to the bottom of the problem. > You almost certainly have a Reverse T3 problem causing thyroid resistance. Have a look through here http://thyroid-rt3.com/ and feel free to ask questions >Any advice would be most appreciated as it seem as though I have stepped into a minefield trying to sort this out. There are people around here who know far more than most GPs and Endos. Any time FT4 goes over 50% of the range and FT3 is low at the same time there is a lot of RT3 lurking in there. The cure is to go T3 only and that web link tells you all about it You need to get iron and adrenals right first. Nick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 Good to see you here Mark Really you should mention your other stuff too. That might make a difference in the advice you get. I know T3 can put a strain on your Heart. Regards Ian > > Hi ALL, Genova Diagnostics recently carried out a Thyroid Test on me and the following results came back. > > TSH 2.5 MIU/L(ref 1-2) HIGH > FT4 20.5 pmol/L (ref 12-20) HIGH > FT3 2.9 pmol/L (ref 3.4-6.0) LOW > FT4:FT3 Ratio 7.0 (ref 2.5-4.0) HIGH old messages deleted by moderator Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 If your adrenals aren't running well, than iodine won't be the answer there. Adrenals need to be in good condition before you start on the Iodine protocol. Do you have ferritin lab results? 1/2 teaspoon of unrefined/unprocessed salt first thing in the morning will help your adrenals. Once your adrenals are up, adding the iodine will greatly enhance your system. Cheers, JOT Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2010 Report Share Posted November 8, 2010 Mark what were your testosterone results ? chris > > Symptoms that may well be a factor are I seem to get very tired during the > day and I have suffered from ED for a number of years. > My GP seems to think there is nothing wrong with my results. I will try > writing her a letter but I am not holding my breath. > Thanks Again > Cheers > Mark > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 9, 2010 Report Share Posted November 9, 2010 isn't there a thyroid connection to lipoprotein a too? http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/7669088 Thyroid hormone (fT4) reduces lipoprotein(a) plasma levels. Hoppichler F, Sandholzer C, Moncayo R, Utermann G, Kraft HG. Department of Internal Medicine, University of Innsbruck, Austria. Abstract To study the influence of thyroid hormone on Lp(a) plasma concentration we measured Lp(a), total cholesterol, LDL-C, HDL-C, triglycerides and fT4 levels and determined apo(a) phenotypes in 26 patients with hyperthyroidism in a follow-up study before and after thyreostatic treatment. The pretreatment values of total cholesterol (TC), LDL-C, and Lp(a) were significantly reduced as compared with those of healthy controls. The reduced mean Lp(a) concentrations could not be explained by a difference of apo(a) 'size allele' frequencies between patients and controls. During thyreostatic treatment mean concentrations of TC, LDL-C, and HDL-C increased significantly. The mean Lp(a) value was not changed after 4 weeks of treatment. The individual changes of Lp(a), however, correlated significantly with those of LDL-C levels (R = 0.40, P = 0.04). Eighty-one per cent of the patients showed an increase of Lp(a) or no change of the Lp(a) level and 19% reacted with a decrease upon thyreostatic treatment. The observed lipid and lipoprotein changes were not different in patients with Graves disease or multifocal toxic goiter. The results indicate that Lp(a) plasma levels are decreased in the hyperthyroid state irrespective of the pathogenic mechanism > > Chris > > My Testosterone was tested at 18.4 apparently a testosterone level of 25 is > ideal for tackling Lipoprotein(a) but there is no way my GP will entertain > me in my quest to reduce my LP(a) using Testosterone when the starting level > is 18 however much I try and convince her. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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