Guest guest Posted November 15, 2010 Report Share Posted November 15, 2010 Hi All, My other half has had a recent blood test with the idiot endo he is having to see. He was told that his antibodies are normal at 40 - range 0-60. I thought that if you had any then you were not normal - it is like being a little bit pregnant. Is the result of his antibodies at 40 ok - or is it when they get higher one has to worry. He also has an enlarged thyroid gland (no goitre) - no nodules. B Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2010 Report Share Posted November 16, 2010 Hi I have graves disease and my TPO auto-antibodies are at 400. The normal range is 0-70. It is my understanding the body makes anti-bodies at normal levels, and are only a problem when they become ‘auto-antibodies’ – ie you have too many of them and they start attacking the wrong tissue, hence the name ‘auto-immune disease’ – meaning the immune system is attacking itself. Antibodies within normal ranges, as far as I know (and others will know better than me) either means your auto-immune disease is in remission, or you don’t have auto-immune disease (which is a very big blessing, awful as hyperthyroidism on its own is). Thanks Is the result of his antibodies at 40 ok - or is it when they get higher one has to worry. He also has an enlarged thyroid gland (no goitre) - no nodules. I am using the Free version of SPAMfighter.SPAMfighter has removed 2578 of my spam emails to date.Do you have a slow PC? Try free scan! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2011 Report Share Posted November 18, 2011 >> Can someone tell me in simple terms why some hypothyroid people have antibodies and some don't? Is it down to different types of hypothyroidism I would say yes you can have different kinds of problems: problems at pituitary, problems convertng, problems absorbing/using the hormone show the gp the results and print him a list of all your symptoms http://www.tpa-uk.org.uk/symptoms_hypot.pdf what were your results from your gp - eg, your TSH, T4 etc? what were your urine tst results? In his book ( http://www.amazon.co.uk/Hormone-Solution-Dr-Thierry-Hertoghe/dp/1400080851/ref=s\ \ r_1_1?ie=UTF8 & qid=1320866363 & sr=8-1) , Dr Hertoghe - who is an expert on hormone replacment, said: " watch out for low levels of T3 (under 1500 pmol/24h) and/or t4 (under 1800 pmol/24h) " . chris > > Hi to all and a very quick question as I'm off to docs in an hour and want to be fully informed. > or do all hypo people eventually get them? > > Hope it's not too silly a question but this is all new to me. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2011 Report Share Posted November 18, 2011 Thank you for your swift response. I've had a tsh of 5.8, 13 and 5.2 ref range 0.2 to 6. This is from memory but pretty accurate. I was not given any other results and don't think they have been done. I know my antibodies were checked by the lab when tsh was 13. The doc did not ask them to do that though. Urine from Genova was: t3 516 ref 592 - 1850 T4 454 ref 347 1994 T3 : t4 ratio 1.1 Folate 4.9 ref 3.4 - 17.5 B12 522 ref 211 - 911 But I take folic acid as it has been Folate 3.80 ref >5.4 b12 409 ref 180- 910 Not had iron done. My liver profile is Total bilirubin 8 ref 0-17 Ast 53 ref 0-40 alt 88 r 0-40 Ggt 96 0-55 I am on statins for slightly raised cholesterol and have had a heart attack plus stent within the last 12 months. Jane > > >> Can someone tell me in simple terms why some hypothyroid people have antibodies and some don't? Is it down to different types of hypothyroidism > %%%%%%%%%%Q: what has the moderator had to do? A. Trim off all the old messages %%%%%%%%%%%%%% Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2011 Report Share Posted November 18, 2011 Some people have antibodies attacking the thyroid because they are genetically predisposed - some experts say its as much as 80% of the people suffering with hypothyroid have the Hashimotos (antibodies) type. But there are many many reasons why peoples` thyroids fail, at least 20 or more. The antibodies can get triggered into action during life`s changes and stresses, i.e. puberty, child-birth, menopause. If your private tests show none, you may not be genetically predisposed to make the antibodies and this will not be the reason for your hypothyroidism - it will be one of the other many reasons. GPs usually don`t bother to find the root cause of the hypothyroid - they just treat the symptoms. Best to ask for a print out of any test results from the doc and also any of your private ones and bring them to this forum. The experts here will help you. I would tell the doc you have done a private urine test and that your T4 and T3 levels are low, but don`t be surprised that he/she takes no notice - you still may not get a referral to an Endo. Tell him/her about all your symptoms and that you cannot go on functioning in this state. You could ask for a trial of thyroxine. Jane > > > Can someone tell me in simple terms why some hypothyroid people have antibodies and some don't? Is it down to different types of hypothyroidism or do all hypo people eventually get them? > > Hope it's not too silly a question but this is all new to me. > > My test show none so doc said cannot possibly be hypothyroid. My private urine test shows I am so I need good arguments to get referred. > > Many thanks > > Jane > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2011 Report Share Posted November 18, 2011 EDITED TO REMOVE MOST OF PREVIOUS MESSAGE, PLEASE DO THIS WHEN SENDING REPLIES. MODERATOR Back from docs. Finally managed to get referred. Dr said my ECG and blood test for heart failure were fine but dray showed my heart slightly enlarged but not enough to worry about! We then got onto thyroid and my urine test results from Genova. She said she had not heard of the test before and it wasn't nhs. She looked at levels and said they were fine and she was not concerned. Results t3 516 ref 592-1850 and t4 454 ref 347-1994. I pointed out that long term hypothyroidism could lead to enlarged heart and raised cholesterol and my heart attack. She said 'but you are not hypothyroid'! Told her that I felt she was shortening my life by not referring me. Started to list all my symtoms ie hair loss, low body temp, lethargy etc etc. She finally agreed to refer me I think to shut me up. Now let's hope the endo I'm seeing privately next tuesday is good! Jane > > >> Can someone tell me in simple terms why some hypothyroid people have antibodies and some don't? Is it down to different types of hypothyroidism > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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