Re: my acth test etc

[Guest guest]

Hi Mo -trust Dr P I certainly do and it has given me my health back. Just out of

interest did they do a T3 blood test and did they give you the result ? This

nurse will know very little compared with Dr P . .Best wishes

[Guest guest]

Mo,

Do you have Holmes book "Tears behind closed doors". That would be a very good one to lend the endo (and nurse).

She had many diagnosis from many 'clever' consultants but was still very ill and in a wheelchair.

Finally, after many years of being ill with all kinds of medication for all kinds of diagnosed illnesses, she saw Dr. Peatfield and has never looked back. Once her thyroid had been treated ("no it definitely is not your thyroid") her life was given back to her.

I hope you get sorted soon.

Lilian

[Guest guest]

Hi M

Yes I did have an FT3 done and did not take my T3 for quite some time

beforehand, my TSH was suppressed, FT4 was barely in range and FT3 ditto, both

at bottom so of curse that means I am not hypothyroid.One downand one to go ie

the ACTH which they will use to prove that I do9 not havce addisons I suppose

and then it is on my records that I am def noty hypot or hyypoA and am taking

meds that are making me ill.

My major [robolem is that I have been trying to get optimised for five

years and it is just not happening.

I cannot get the adrenals straight which is the first imortant step, I have

tried everything I think over the years with the help of hi list and others.

I habe gone up ahd down the scale with hc and t3 and Armour and Pred etc etc

I cannot stopmy hc from lunchtime and I believe some other med shoould be taken

to stop ill effects.

Peeps do have odd reactions do they not? I thought I read that one one of the

lists.

A different med should be taken n place of the hc to stop bad reacions.

I am desperately ill here, have been going unconscious and otherhorrors from a

badly managed sleeping pill withdrawal.

I am lonely and frightened and hopeful the advocate can helpme.

Iam a LOT more ill than the usual thyroid adrenal illness that is with me moswt

of the time, this is serious life-threating stuff, if anyne has time or

incinatin pse google CITA benzo abrupt discontinuation sundrme which is where I

have been for last monjth(s).

The withdrawals case a huge strain on the adrenaks whuch then on top ofr the

withdrawal hrrism casue the thyroiid to go out of whack.

All of this whiuolst having the flu except isit is not real flu through

identifcal in every way excepyt no rerspitaroy symptoms, it is withdrawals.

I a beginning to suspect that my liver issues ay be impluicated in me perhaps

not being able to process hc and t3, i hqve been infiormed b y helpline that it

can go three ways

meds stay n the system too long, the usuakl case with skuggish liver

meds get used uo reakky quickly, paradoxically\or

meds can go straight through the liver without any uptake at all.

I have gone to v hiugh doses of T3 and I dnt think I have ever gne hyper so

maybe it is possibole that I am the 'paradxical' patient and that is why I

cannot get oprimised. Because of my loiver?

Desperately looking for info on this, trying to get hold of helpline guy who

told me this with no success so far.

Am asking fo referallo to top doc hepatologist in onon and neurologist, brain v

bad againm v v bad and I amn reading that aq lot of 0eople with /cfs have brain

lesions when scanned.

And that this can happen with hypot also.

PLUS my mother's brother and sister both died in the last little while from

dementia.

I reallu need some helppse.

Mo

>

> Hi Mo -trust Dr P I certainly do and it has given me my health back. Just out

of interest did they do a T3 blood test and did they give you the result ? This

nurse will know very little compared with Dr P . .Best wishes

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Mo I have never taken HC so somebody else needs to advise -if you are so

worried ask your advocate to talk to PALS at the hospital that is what they are

there for . Best wishes

[Guest guest]

Hi Mo

If you are going through a terrible withdrawal then you body is likely under a

lot of stress at the moment. I wonder if it is wise to be stopping the HC for

the test?

There is a steroid they could put you on called Dexamethasone for the purpose of

doing the test.

This steroid would be equivalent to your HC but it would not affect the results

of the synacthen test. Normally a patient would be on Dexamethasone for 1-2

weeks before the test is done.

Maybe you should ask the nurse if you could swap to this steroid in the

interests of your safety.

I don't think people (ie nurses and doctors) who don't take HC understand what

it is like to withdraw from HC and how ill it can make you feel.

Take care

Lou

[Guest guest]

Thanks Lou, told the endo nurse i was too ill to stopp hc nwwo.

What I desperately and urgently need is a pointer in the direction of a dr who

wilo hel me through these wwithdraqwas as the gp IS DMAGING ME, LEEEEEEEEASE CAN

SOMEONE HELOPME WITH FINDNG A PRIVATE DR? Mo

>

> If you are going through a terrible withdrawal then you body is likely under a

lot of stress at the moment. I wonder if it is wise to be stopping the HC for

the test?

>

> There is a steroid they could put you on called Dexamethasone for the purpose

of doing the test.

[Ed]

[Guest guest]

Hi Mo - I did write to all three medical advisers but was told

that they couldn't advise what you should do unless they had seen you in the

flesh and had more information about you and the other drugs you were taking.

Can you ask your GP to refer you to a consultant psychiatrist as such a

specialist would be best to help you in your present situation. Can you change

your GP. You need to contact your local PCT and tell them you feel your present

GP is damaging your health. Telephone them on Monday morning first thing and

talk to them about your condition. They will do everything they can to help you.

Luv - Sheila

Thanks Lou, told the endo nurse i was too ill to stopp hc nwwo.

What I desperately and urgently need is a pointer in the direction of a dr who

wilo hel me through these wwithdraqwas as the gp IS DMAGING ME, LEEEEEEEEASE

CAN SOMEONE HELOPME WITH FINDNG A PRIVATE DR? Mo

>

[Guest guest]

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PROMT RESPONSE /SHEILA, i MUST SAY |i FEEL LET DOWN WHEN YOU

PROMISED YOU WOULD GET BACK TO ME IMMEDIATELY YOU HEARD FROM THE THREE DOCS AND

YOU DID NOT?

> Hi Mo - I did write to all three medical advisers but was told that they

>

oops

not shouting\

complaining about the GP is not the way to g here " sheiula or the CT

PCT, what I need urgently, v urgently uis a private dr who is not constraind by

NICE GUIDELINES WHO WILL OVERSEE THE WITHDRAWAL IN A SENSIUVIBKLE AND HUMANE

WAY,\oops again\iS THERE ?any WAY YOU CAN HELP NME GIND SUCH A DOCTOR?

mO\\

't advise what you should do unless they had seen you in the flesh and

> had more information about you and the other drugs you were taking. Can you

> ask your GP to refer you to a consultant psychiatrist as such a specialist

> would be best to help you in your present situation. Can you change your GP.

> You need to contact your local PCT and tell them you feel your present GP is

> damaging your health. Telephone them on Monday morning first thing and talk

> to them about your condition. They will do everything they can to help you.

>

> Luv - Sheila

>

>

> Thanks Lou, told the endo nurse i was too ill to stopp hc nwwo.

> What I desperately and urgently need is a pointer in the direction of a dr

> who wilo hel me through these wwithdraqwas as the gp IS DMAGING ME,

> LEEEEEEEEASE CAN SOMEONE HELOPME WITH FINDNG A PRIVATE DR? Mo

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Mo, I am sorry that you felt I let you down. I did write to

all three advisers and did a bit of research myself to see if I could help and

yes, I know that I promised to get back to you immediately I heard from them. I

also sent them copies of your correspondence at that time, which was difficult

to read through because of the effect the drug was having on you, in an attempt

to help them see what a problem you had at that time. Unfortunately, after

waiting for some time, I did not hear back from them and took it on myself to

telephone them individually. That's when I was told they were unable to help without

actually seeing you. I do know that many doctors would also not advise on

treatment without knowing the patient and their full history.

I did not say you should complain about your GP, but that you

should change your GP as you said he was " damaging your

health " and told you how you could do this.

The only doctors that I have on my list are doctors who will

prescribe some form of T3 hormone replacement, but I still feel the best

referral right now would be to a psychiatrist who is well trained in the use of

antidepressants and would know how to help you get over the terrible withdrawal

symptoms you are suffering. Unfortunately, I do not know any such doctor

personally, apart from one up here in Yorkshire.

If anybody else knows of a good psychiatrist or an excellent

doctor in other fields who you know could help Mo, please let her know.

Luv - Sheila

THANK YOU FOR YOUR PROMT RESPONSE /SHEILA, i

MUST SAY |i FEEL LET DOWN WHEN YOU PROMISED YOU WOULD GET BACK TO ME

IMMEDIATELY YOU HEARD FROM THE THREE DOCS AND YOU DID NOT?

> Hi Mo - I did write to all three medical advisers but was told that they

>

oops

not shouting\

complaining about the GP is not the way to g here " sheiula or the CT

PCT, what I need urgently, v urgently uis a private dr who is not constraind by

NICE GUIDELINES WHO WILL OVERSEE THE WITHDRAWAL IN A SENSIUVIBKLE AND HUMANE WAY,\oops

again\iS THERE ?any WAY YOU CAN HELP NME GIND SUCH A DOCTOR?

mO\\

't advise what you should do unless they had seen you in the flesh and

> had more information about you and the other drugs you were taking. Can

you

> ask your GP to refer you to a consultant psychiatrist as such a specialist

> would be best to help you in your present situation. Can you change your

GP.

> You need to contact your local PCT and tell them you feel your present GP

is

> damaging your health. Telephone them on Monday morning first thing and

talk

> to them about your condition. They will do everything they can to help

you.

>

>

[Guest guest]

If you are having a STIM, you must be off HC or any adrenal support aside from

dexamethasone)for at LEAST two weeks before testing.

Otherwise, the cortisol from the HC will show up and your adrenals will look

better than they are, and you could miss a diagnosis.

[Guest guest]

Hi Lynn

The endo nurse told me that the only reason they were doing the 'ACTH was to

prove that I did no9t have an adrenal roiblenm and should not be on hc, she also

said that my thyroid was in range and that oroved \i was not hypoithyroid.

I told her I would be doing nothing about any of this until I came out of the

other end of this withdrawal hell.

Thanks for your support Linn.

Sheila

It was not the effect of a drug that is making it hard for me to type it is the

effect of the withdrawals.

It is the |NICE guidelines that are the roblem so seeing NHS osych woiuld not

help at all.

I need a private dr who is not constrained by the \NHS guidelines who can help

me with this.

Coiuld njot one of the three docs have not suggested someone elose who could ehl

or offer to see y in \Harley " Street\?

I get the feeling i am being distanced.....

o

>

> If you are having a STIM, you must be off HC or any adrenal support aside from

dexamethasone)for at LEAST two weeks before testing.

>

> Otherwise, the cortisol from the HC will show up and your adrenals will look

better than they are, and you could miss a diagnosis.

>

[Guest guest]

I'm not too sure that you would want to go to an endo whose nurse says they are

trying to prove you DON'T have an adrenal issue.

How long have you been on HC? If you have been unable to wean off it for some

time, you are more likely to have adrenal issues than not. This is just my

opinion...

Also, it is DANGEROUS to suddenly wean off HC. It could cause an adrenal crisis,

which could result in death. I suggest repeating that to this bogus nurse. If

you get well enough to do a STIM, accept nothing less than dexamethasone for two

weeks. If they won't play, mention the phrases " adrenal crisis " and " death "

quite often. Maybe also throw in other phrases like " my family would sue you if

I died " , " medical malpractice " etc. etc.

I have had to learn to play, as the same idea has been suggested to me.

[Guest guest]

Hi Mo, I can assure you that you are not being

" distanced " . I run this group for one reason, and one reason only and

that is to try and help members whenever I can. Sometimes, however, I don't

know enough to be able to do so, nor do I always know of somebody who can. Our

three doctors are medical advisers specifically because of their knowledge of

thyroid and related conditions. I think had they known of private doctors who they

thought might have been able to help you, they would have told me. Often,

members think that I also know much more than I do because I run this forum,

but lots of the stuff I come out with I have to research first.

I am aware that it is the effect of withdrawal of the drug. You

sent me two very long messages explaining all of this, which as I mentioned, I

passed on to our advisers. You might wish to contact them yourself Mo to see

what they could advise as it is always better to chat direct rather than

through a third party. You can contact Dr. Peatfield 01883, 623 125, Dr Skinner

01214 498895 and/or Dr Mantzourani - 020 7467 1510 and remind them that I sent

the correspondence about you on 2nd November and again on 3rd November after

you sent me a response.

Luv - Sheila

Sheila

It was not the effect of a drug that is making it hard for me to type it is the

effect of the withdrawals.

It is the |NICE guidelines that are the roblem so seeing NHS osych woiuld not help

at all.

I need a private dr who is not constrained by the \NHS guidelines who can help

me with this.

Coiuld njot one of the three docs have not suggested someone elose who could

ehl or offer to see y in \Harley " Street\?

I get the feeling i am being distanced.

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Mo,

Sorry for what you are going through.

Although I can't offer local names of Docs that may help you with Daizepam

withdrawal I wonder if you have tried posting on sites/groups that deal with

withdrawals?

Here are some I am aware of

1/ http://www.paxilprogress.org/forums

Although it says " Paxil " it actually deals with many meds (antidepressants,

antianxiety, etc)

I did a search on epam & came up with quite a few hits...

http://www.paxilprogress.org/forums/search.php?searchid=926457

This one may interest you

British National Formula for diazepam tapering

http://www.paxilprogress.org/forums/showthread.php?t=48654 & highlight=epam

2/ http://theroadback.org/

http://theroadback.org/valium.aspx

Note the info here on this page http://www.theroadback.org/science.htm

particularly on the effect of these meds on the Hypothalamus-Pituitary-Adrenal

Axis (HPA)

an excerpt ...

" Psychoactive medications will play havoc with the HPA. While they usually help

with anxiety /depression for a certain time period, the feedback loop sending

incorrect data will eventually cause cortisol levels to increase, and the result

will be increased anxiety in the morning and mid-afternoon. Insomnia will

usually follow the cortisol level increase. Other psychoactive medications have

their own unique side effect profile and ultimate effect upon the HPA.

When the HPA is out of balance, you will have a problem with insulin, stress,

anxiety, weight gain, thyroid problems, fatigue, unbalanced sexual hormones, and

countless other body difficulties.

The hormone, ACTH, will eventually become out of balance, as will the other

hormones and adrenals.

Psychoactive medication will directly alter specific areas within the HPA.

Examine any patient using psychoactive medication for more than three months and

you will probably find a problem with hormones, thyroid, adrenals, cortisol, and

immune system or other areas within the HPA.

The pituitary side effects will include one or all six hormones, to include ACTH

and the thyroid-stimulating hormone (TSH).

The hypothalamus can alter blood pressure, control every endocrine gland in the

body, body temperature, adrenal levels via ACTH, and metabolism. "

3/ http://www.benzo.org.uk/

BENZODIAZEPINES: HOW THEY WORK AND HOW TO WITHDRAW (aka The Ashton Manual)

http://www.benzo.org.uk/manual/index.htm

Also checkout their Support & Links pages

eg. http://www.benzobuddies.org/forum/

Benzofriends/

Regards Lethal Lee

" Mo " wrote:

I told her I would be doing nothing about any of this until I came out of the

other end of this withdrawal hell.

It was not the effect of a drug that is making it hard for me to type it is the

effect of the withdrawals.

It is the NICE guidelines that are the problem so seeing NHS psych would not

help at all.I need a private dr who is not constrained by the NHS guidelines who

can help me with this.

[Guest guest]

Thanks Lethal Lee - you are quite a gem!

Luv - Sheila

Hi Mo,

Sorry for what you are going through.

Although I can't offer local names of Docs that may help you with Daizepam

withdrawal I wonder if you have tried posting on sites/groups that deal with

withdrawals?

Here are some I am aware of

1/ http://www.paxilprogress.org/forums

Although it says " Paxil " it actually deals with many meds

(antidepressants, antianxiety, etc)

I did a search on epam & came up with quite a few hits...

http://www.paxilprogress.org/forums/search.php?searchid=926457

This one may interest you

British National Formula for diazepam tapering

http://www.paxilprogress.org/forums/showthread.php?t=48654 & highlight=epam

2/ http://theroadback.org/

http://theroadback.org/valium.aspx

Note the info here on this page http://www.theroadback.org/science.htm

particularly on the effect of these meds on the Hypothalamus-Pituitary-Adrenal

Axis (HPA)

[Guest guest]

Big thanks |LL, afraid though I am too far gone to be able to read, see even and

nderstand... double vision from weithdrawals, brain dead...

I urgently need a doctor.

\mo xx

>

> Thanks Lethal Lee - you are quite a gem!

>

> Luv - Sheila

>

>

>

> Hi Mo,

>

> Sorry for what you are going through.

>

> Although I can't offer local names of Docs that may help you with Daizepam

> withdrawal I wonder if you have tried posting on sites/groups that deal with

> withdrawals?

>

> Here are some I am aware of

> 1/ http://www.paxilprogress.org/forums

> Although it says " Paxil " it actually deals with many meds (antidepressants,

> antianxiety, etc)

> I did a search on epam & came up with quite a few hits...

> http://www.paxilprogress.org/forums/search.php?searchid=926457

> This one may interest you

> British National Formula for diazepam tapering

> http://www.paxilprogress.org/forums/showthread.php?t=48654

> <http://www.paxilprogress.org/forums/showthread.php?t=48654 & highlight=ep

> am> & highlight=epam

>

> 2/ http://theroadback.org/

> http://theroadback.org/valium.aspx

>

> Note the info here on this page http://www.theroadback.org/science.htm

> particularly on the effect of these meds on the

> Hypothalamus-Pituitary-Adrenal Axis (HPA)

>

[Guest guest]

I got a oetter from the endo this am. saying that as i had refused the 'acth

they were niow taking me 9off therir bookss.

I did not say I would not have the test, I said to thr endo nurse that I was in

serious withdraewals from bernzos and was too ill to dstop my hc even for a few

hus and that wehen I had regained my bakance, if ever, I would get back t9 themn

but lookds lke they have got the hump.

There was no merntion of the fact that the ndo nurse had told me that the onloy

reason they were doing the tdst was to show I did n9t have addis9ons, well \i

kinow that'1!!

> I'm not too sure that you would want to go to an endo whose nurse says they

are trying to prove you DON'T have an adrenal issue.

>

> How long have you been on HC? If you have been unable to wean off it for some

time, you are more likely to have adrenal issues than not. This is just my

opinion...

>

> Also, it is DANGEROUS to suddenly wean off HC. It could cause an adrenal

crisis, which could result in death. I suggest repeating that to this bogus

nurse. If you get well enough to do a STIM, accept nothing less than

dexamethasone for two weeks. If they won't play, mention the phrases " adrenal

crisis " and " death " quite often. Maybe also throw in other phrases like " my

family would sue you if I died " , " medical malpractice " etc. etc.

>

> I have had to learn to play, as the same idea has been suggested to me.

>

[Guest guest]

MODERATOR SNIPPED POST.

thanks sheila,

>

> Hi Mo, I can assure you that you are not being " distanced " . I run this group

> for one reason, and one reason only and that is to try and help members

> whenever I can. Sovember and again on 3rd November after you

> sent me a response.

>

[Guest guest]

Mo

If you are in such a state can a family member not come and help you at the

moment or a close friend. it sounds like you need more help than just seeing a

doctor. What about contacting dr myhill to explain what a state you are in.

she may be able to advise you on all this. she has a facebook page i am sure

you could try and get through to her there.

You need to write a letter to the endo and explain why you cannot get the test

done at the moment. Email is better and if you ask for the secretaries address

i am sure they will correspond with you this way (i am doing just that with my

endo and it is much quicker than writing letters).

my final thought comes from my own recent experience. i was plodding on nicely

and then i became ill again. i thought it was the hc so upped to 30mg, but this

made things worse. i was stumped for a few days and then i just missed some

daily doses and i felt well again on that first day. i realised i was ill

because i was taking too much HC and this was making me hypo. i am now down to

17.5mg and all is going well. I wonder if you have experienced anything like

this ? I know you were on much higher amounts than me.

It seems reducing down the hc also effects the levels of thyroid a bit and so

these also need to be tinkered with - just like how we have to tinker with the

hc and thyroid meds as we increase to an optimal dose.

i would definitley speak to someone about the withdrawal process, if you can

find a forum for that. It seems that is your priority at the moment.

[Guest guest]

Hi

The priority at the moment is finding dr who will oversee the diazeam

withdrawals as the GP is v rigid, ignorant and I am not in good hands tyo say

the v least.

I was going unconscious on the bathroom floor, well once, but once is once too

often.

The GP was shouting down the phone at me telling me that the horrors I was going

through (coming ff these drugs is MUCH harder tyhan coming off heroin fofr

exmaple and I am here all alone with no friends or family to help in any way).

Chrios Tayloor has been holding my hanbd throughut this process and I honestly

dont know what I would have done without him,

The GP has been saying since dr P diagnosed me wityh adrenal and thyroiud

issuies that it is all tosh and there is nothing wrong with nmy thyroid and

adrenals.

The point of sending me to the endo was to prove tyheir point by demonstrating

that i had adrenal eserves when the acth was fdone aqnd my tyhyroid laqbns qare

in range, hahahhahha, and SO THEREFORE, Dr P's diagnosis is rubbish and there is

nothing wrong with my glands.l

End of... then their plan was to reduce me off these meds and make me terribly

terribly ill as if I could get nmore ill than I am now I doubt it.

I do have an advocate helping me and she is a diamond and coming with me to dsee

the GP ion Thursday. He is insisting on reducing the diaze0am according to his

rigid plan, I think he may be getting hius own backl for me going to Dr M in the

first lacer when he would not give me any sleeps meds even though i was in sleep

reversalol for years.

Dr M did give me a scri-t for benzos, both of us in the full knowledge that I

weoiuld become addicted but it was out to me that as i have incurable illness

going on as well the the thyroid adrenal stuff, that quality of life wasd what

was important over and above worries abvout addictin and that the good dr would

continue prescribing so I would never hve to face withdrawals. She asked did I

want to spend my remaining years loike a zombie ftrom lack of sleep and my

remaining years arelikely to be less than your average Joe.

So0 was kind of shocked into deciding that \I should take this route especialy

was it was pointed out that I had no hope of mnaking progress with other health

issues unless I got " SOME SLEEP.

GP was pissed off and now perhaps if his chance for revevge or so it was

suggestred to9 me anyway,.\

Yes I did ask the good dr if there was any other dr who could help me and I got

told NO, wierd that there is not a single dr in the UK that could ne

recommended?

Any womder I think I am being distanced, the other three dr ditto.

I have talen Chris'sadvice and phoned the Priory this morning to see if one of

their drs can oversee the reduction.

Problem with that is, apart from having to travel when i cannot get out of bed

hardly, is it costs approx 250 for initial appt and then half of that for

further half hour appts asnd I am up to ber eyes in debt and dont have two

pennies tyo rub together.

I am waiting to hear back from them today and will report back.

> If you are in such a state can a family member not come and help you at the

moment or a close friend. it sounds like you need more help than just seeing a

doctor. What about contacting dr myhill to explain what a state you are in.

she may be able to advise you on all this. she has a facebook page i am sure

you could try and get through to her there.

>

> You need to write a letter to the endo and explain why you cannot get the test

done at the moment. Email is better and if you ask for the secretaries address

i am sure they will correspond with you this way (i am doing just that with my

endo and it is much quicker than writing letters).

>

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[Guest guest]

Mo

you are in a very difficult place and it is beyond a forum like this to probably

help you out.

I dont know what you could do. This is primarily a problem with the sleeping

pills at the moment. is there no way you can get through to dr M ?

Failing that can you address the withdrawl symptoms as a heroin user would do -

speak to a councellor about this maybe?

[Guest guest]

Mo - have a look at the table in this web site showing you how epam

should be decreased. Is this any help to you and how does this compare with the

details of decreasing it from your GP? http://www.non-benzodiazepines.org.uk/diazepam.html

.. This looks an excellent site and hopefully, gives the information you are

seeking.

Luv - Sheila

Mo

you are in a very difficult place and it is beyond a forum like this to

probably help you out.

I dont know what you could do. This is primarily a problem with the sleeping

pills at the moment. is there no way you can get through to dr M ?

Failing that can you address the withdrawl symptoms as a heroin user would do -

speak to a councellor about this maybe?

[Guest guest]

On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 10:11:59 -0000, you wrote:

>

>The priority at the moment is finding dr who will oversee the diazeam

withdrawals as the GP is v rigid, ignorant and I am not in good hands tyo say

the v least.

Are you trying this cold turky or weaning off very slowly??

http://www.non-benzodiazepines.org.uk/diazepam.html

If it's cold turky iy will play havock with your adrenals

Nick

[Guest guest]

SNAP Nick! I just sent exactly the same link to Mo. Must

be good!

Luv - Sheila

On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 10:11:59 -0000, you wrote:

>

>The priority at the moment is finding dr who will oversee the diazeam

withdrawals as the GP is v rigid, ignorant and I am not in good hands tyo say

the v least.

Are you trying this cold turky or weaning off very slowly??

http://www.non-benzodiazepines.org.uk/diazepam.html

If it's cold turky iy will play havock with your adrenals

Nick

[Guest guest]

On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 12:50:38 -0000, you wrote:

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>SNAP Nick! I just sent exactly the same link to Mo. Must be good!

I saw that, we must have been googling at the same time!

Nick