Guest guest Posted April 12, 2005 Report Share Posted April 12, 2005 I think all kids benefit from some rest from academics. I just wish our summers weren't 12 weeks long, I think that is too long of a rest. We have never used the school systems' ESY programs. I have always asked 's teachers for extra worksheets on math and reading (esp. comprehension worksheets). They have always supplied me with a stack of stuff, usually too much for summer. I try to have a little " school " time about 3-4 days a week where and I sit and work on math, etc. I also have her work on handwriting, and she reads daily. I keep the worksheets where she can get them, and she will even do some on her own. I try not to get too over zealous because I want her to enjoy her summer also. I also throw in science and social studies in books she reads. I do this with also, although she fights it tooth and nail. Both girls, but especially , are ready to start school weeks before the actual start date. I think 's is more for social stuff, even though she sees her friends all summer long. is anxious to get back into the school routine. Also, if there are any workbooks that she has been using during the school year, the ones that are paperback that they write in, make sure the teacher sends it home. There are always pages that haven't been worked on. Also, I have purchased workbooks on my own at Sam's Club, and at teacher supply stores. Like I said, I don't force it every day, but I find it really benefits to keep working on stuff during the summer. I have never asked for ESY because we like to be flexible during the summer, and I really don't want to be tied down to any other schedules, other than work for Mike and I. Sharon H. Mom to , (13, DS) and , (9) South Carolina ESY Well, it's that time of year again....... time to be thinking about Extended School Year. The Resource teacher found me at school today and had the ESY form..... showed me and said, " well, are you interested? " Told her I was interested in typical summer school. She smiled, and said that the only summer school classes were special day (NSH) classes...... basically, they are going to put all the resource kids into special day classes for the summer. Won't that make the special day teachers happy....... they've got a nice routine going, good students, and now a bunch of new kids will be dropped in for 6 weeks. Told her that I wasn't interested in that (we have not had good luck with ESY yet), and that last year she had speech and OT itinerant (which new Resource Teacher hadn't mentioned as an option), but it was only 4 weeks, so we spent a huge amount of time arranging the schedule, getting here there, only to find out that she could only have 4 sessions each of OT (30 min) and Speech (1 hour). Of course, the only summer school for typical kids that the district is offereing this summer is for " at risk " kids going into grades 3, 4 and 5. So, does anyone just keep thier kids at home for the summer and let them rest from school? I feel guilty that I'm considering not taking an educational opportunity that she might benefit from, but I don't think she's going to get much from 4x speech and OT (with new therapists, of course), and the ESY year special day classes are horrible..... too many kids, not always taught by special ed teachers, loud, chaotic, etc. Do kids with DS benefit from a little summer rest (assuming we will still read and write, which I make everyone do during the summer, mean mommy I am), or might she regress too much? Thoughts? I know all kids are different, but generalized opinions are great. Also, what about gettting them to pay a tutor during the summer (say 3x/week for 1 1/2 hour, 5 weeks)???? Do I have any basis for asking for this, and if so, what might it be? If she is fully included in a regular class, with no resource pullouts (only speech, OT, and APE), AND they agree she need/would benefit from ESY, are they not obligated to provide it in her agreeded upon LRE? If they will not provide a tutor, can I make them provide me with a summer curriculum, including books, worksheets,etc????? We will be meeting on Thursday, and I'm sure this will come up, so please, give me some ideas! Thanks, , mom to (9), (7 DS), and (5) Click reply to all for messages to go to the list. Just hit reply for messages to go to the sender of the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2005 Report Share Posted April 12, 2005 I think all kids benefit from some rest from academics. I just wish our summers weren't 12 weeks long, I think that is too long of a rest. We have never used the school systems' ESY programs. I have always asked 's teachers for extra worksheets on math and reading (esp. comprehension worksheets). They have always supplied me with a stack of stuff, usually too much for summer. I try to have a little " school " time about 3-4 days a week where and I sit and work on math, etc. I also have her work on handwriting, and she reads daily. I keep the worksheets where she can get them, and she will even do some on her own. I try not to get too over zealous because I want her to enjoy her summer also. I also throw in science and social studies in books she reads. I do this with also, although she fights it tooth and nail. Both girls, but especially , are ready to start school weeks before the actual start date. I think 's is more for social stuff, even though she sees her friends all summer long. is anxious to get back into the school routine. Also, if there are any workbooks that she has been using during the school year, the ones that are paperback that they write in, make sure the teacher sends it home. There are always pages that haven't been worked on. Also, I have purchased workbooks on my own at Sam's Club, and at teacher supply stores. Like I said, I don't force it every day, but I find it really benefits to keep working on stuff during the summer. I have never asked for ESY because we like to be flexible during the summer, and I really don't want to be tied down to any other schedules, other than work for Mike and I. Sharon H. Mom to , (13, DS) and , (9) South Carolina ESY Well, it's that time of year again....... time to be thinking about Extended School Year. The Resource teacher found me at school today and had the ESY form..... showed me and said, " well, are you interested? " Told her I was interested in typical summer school. She smiled, and said that the only summer school classes were special day (NSH) classes...... basically, they are going to put all the resource kids into special day classes for the summer. Won't that make the special day teachers happy....... they've got a nice routine going, good students, and now a bunch of new kids will be dropped in for 6 weeks. Told her that I wasn't interested in that (we have not had good luck with ESY yet), and that last year she had speech and OT itinerant (which new Resource Teacher hadn't mentioned as an option), but it was only 4 weeks, so we spent a huge amount of time arranging the schedule, getting here there, only to find out that she could only have 4 sessions each of OT (30 min) and Speech (1 hour). Of course, the only summer school for typical kids that the district is offereing this summer is for " at risk " kids going into grades 3, 4 and 5. So, does anyone just keep thier kids at home for the summer and let them rest from school? I feel guilty that I'm considering not taking an educational opportunity that she might benefit from, but I don't think she's going to get much from 4x speech and OT (with new therapists, of course), and the ESY year special day classes are horrible..... too many kids, not always taught by special ed teachers, loud, chaotic, etc. Do kids with DS benefit from a little summer rest (assuming we will still read and write, which I make everyone do during the summer, mean mommy I am), or might she regress too much? Thoughts? I know all kids are different, but generalized opinions are great. Also, what about gettting them to pay a tutor during the summer (say 3x/week for 1 1/2 hour, 5 weeks)???? Do I have any basis for asking for this, and if so, what might it be? If she is fully included in a regular class, with no resource pullouts (only speech, OT, and APE), AND they agree she need/would benefit from ESY, are they not obligated to provide it in her agreeded upon LRE? If they will not provide a tutor, can I make them provide me with a summer curriculum, including books, worksheets,etc????? We will be meeting on Thursday, and I'm sure this will come up, so please, give me some ideas! Thanks, , mom to (9), (7 DS), and (5) Click reply to all for messages to go to the list. Just hit reply for messages to go to the sender of the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2005 Report Share Posted April 12, 2005 I'm not interested in ESY for Mac...although I'm sure it could be beneficial, I just don't want to try to even push for it. Instead I've paid teenagers to be his tutors...I " train " them and leave specific materials for them to do and it's worked out. It's not perfect, but he knows when " " comes it's time to work with a popsicle at the end as a reward. Last year I just had one girl who came to the house twice a week for 90 minutes a time. I also have a boy that comes twice a week for 90 minutes a time--he " works " with him on play things/boy things--riding a bike, playing catch, running, playing baseball, soccer, more gross motor skills. It's worked out well...Mac looks forward to their visits and I think it's a great experience for these teens. I don't know if Mac progressed, but he didn't regress and I felt less guilty if I didn't fit some reading, writing, aritmetic into our weekly plans because I knew he got a bit from his " tutor " . I am at an advantage in that I work in a JH/HS building so am able to have a lot of interaction with area kids and can pick the ones I think would be best. You may also be able to find some college kids (if you're in a college area) who need experience and would be willing to do it for free, cheap or trade for something. Just an idea. Jill Mom to Mac (7 today!, Ds) and Kit (3.5 yrs., Ds) ESY Well, it's that time of year again....... time to be thinking about Extended School Year. The Resource teacher found me at school today and had the ESY form..... showed me and said, " well, are you interested? " Told her I was interested in typical summer school. She smiled, and said that the only summer school classes were special day (NSH) classes...... basically, they are going to put all the resource kids into special day classes for the summer. Won't that make the special day teachers happy....... they've got a nice routine going, good students, and now a bunch of new kids will be dropped in for 6 weeks. Told her that I wasn't interested in that (we have not had good luck with ESY yet), and that last year she had speech and OT itinerant (which new Resource Teacher hadn't mentioned as an option), but it was only 4 weeks, so we spent a huge amount of time arranging the schedule, getting here there, only to find out that she could only have 4 sessions each of OT (30 min) and Speech (1 hour). Of course, the only summer school for typical kids that the district is offereing this summer is for " at risk " kids going into grades 3, 4 and 5. So, does anyone just keep thier kids at home for the summer and let them rest from school? I feel guilty that I'm considering not taking an educational opportunity that she might benefit from, but I don't think she's going to get much from 4x speech and OT (with new therapists, of course), and the ESY year special day classes are horrible..... too many kids, not always taught by special ed teachers, loud, chaotic, etc. Do kids with DS benefit from a little summer rest (assuming we will still read and write, which I make everyone do during the summer, mean mommy I am), or might she regress too much? Thoughts? I know all kids are different, but generalized opinions are great. Also, what about gettting them to pay a tutor during the summer (say 3x/week for 1 1/2 hour, 5 weeks)???? Do I have any basis for asking for this, and if so, what might it be? If she is fully included in a regular class, with no resource pullouts (only speech, OT, and APE), AND they agree she need/would benefit from ESY, are they not obligated to provide it in her agreeded upon LRE? If they will not provide a tutor, can I make them provide me with a summer curriculum, including books, worksheets,etc????? We will be meeting on Thursday, and I'm sure this will come up, so please, give me some ideas! Thanks, , mom to (9), (7 DS), and (5) Click reply to all for messages to go to the list. Just hit reply for messages to go to the sender of the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2005 Report Share Posted April 12, 2005 I'm not interested in ESY for Mac...although I'm sure it could be beneficial, I just don't want to try to even push for it. Instead I've paid teenagers to be his tutors...I " train " them and leave specific materials for them to do and it's worked out. It's not perfect, but he knows when " " comes it's time to work with a popsicle at the end as a reward. Last year I just had one girl who came to the house twice a week for 90 minutes a time. I also have a boy that comes twice a week for 90 minutes a time--he " works " with him on play things/boy things--riding a bike, playing catch, running, playing baseball, soccer, more gross motor skills. It's worked out well...Mac looks forward to their visits and I think it's a great experience for these teens. I don't know if Mac progressed, but he didn't regress and I felt less guilty if I didn't fit some reading, writing, aritmetic into our weekly plans because I knew he got a bit from his " tutor " . I am at an advantage in that I work in a JH/HS building so am able to have a lot of interaction with area kids and can pick the ones I think would be best. You may also be able to find some college kids (if you're in a college area) who need experience and would be willing to do it for free, cheap or trade for something. Just an idea. Jill Mom to Mac (7 today!, Ds) and Kit (3.5 yrs., Ds) ESY Well, it's that time of year again....... time to be thinking about Extended School Year. The Resource teacher found me at school today and had the ESY form..... showed me and said, " well, are you interested? " Told her I was interested in typical summer school. She smiled, and said that the only summer school classes were special day (NSH) classes...... basically, they are going to put all the resource kids into special day classes for the summer. Won't that make the special day teachers happy....... they've got a nice routine going, good students, and now a bunch of new kids will be dropped in for 6 weeks. Told her that I wasn't interested in that (we have not had good luck with ESY yet), and that last year she had speech and OT itinerant (which new Resource Teacher hadn't mentioned as an option), but it was only 4 weeks, so we spent a huge amount of time arranging the schedule, getting here there, only to find out that she could only have 4 sessions each of OT (30 min) and Speech (1 hour). Of course, the only summer school for typical kids that the district is offereing this summer is for " at risk " kids going into grades 3, 4 and 5. So, does anyone just keep thier kids at home for the summer and let them rest from school? I feel guilty that I'm considering not taking an educational opportunity that she might benefit from, but I don't think she's going to get much from 4x speech and OT (with new therapists, of course), and the ESY year special day classes are horrible..... too many kids, not always taught by special ed teachers, loud, chaotic, etc. Do kids with DS benefit from a little summer rest (assuming we will still read and write, which I make everyone do during the summer, mean mommy I am), or might she regress too much? Thoughts? I know all kids are different, but generalized opinions are great. Also, what about gettting them to pay a tutor during the summer (say 3x/week for 1 1/2 hour, 5 weeks)???? Do I have any basis for asking for this, and if so, what might it be? If she is fully included in a regular class, with no resource pullouts (only speech, OT, and APE), AND they agree she need/would benefit from ESY, are they not obligated to provide it in her agreeded upon LRE? If they will not provide a tutor, can I make them provide me with a summer curriculum, including books, worksheets,etc????? We will be meeting on Thursday, and I'm sure this will come up, so please, give me some ideas! Thanks, , mom to (9), (7 DS), and (5) Click reply to all for messages to go to the list. Just hit reply for messages to go to the sender of the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2005 Report Share Posted April 12, 2005 What a great idea! I hadn't thought of having a teenager to tutor. I think would probably respond better to a teen than she does to me. Also helps with socialization, etc. Sharon H. Mom to , (13, DS) and , (9) South Carolina ESY Well, it's that time of year again....... time to be thinking about Extended School Year. The Resource teacher found me at school today and had the ESY form..... showed me and said, " well, are you interested? " Told her I was interested in typical summer school. She smiled, and said that the only summer school classes were special day (NSH) classes...... basically, they are going to put all the resource kids into special day classes for the summer. Won't that make the special day teachers happy....... they've got a nice routine going, good students, and now a bunch of new kids will be dropped in for 6 weeks. Told her that I wasn't interested in that (we have not had good luck with ESY yet), and that last year she had speech and OT itinerant (which new Resource Teacher hadn't mentioned as an option), but it was only 4 weeks, so we spent a huge amount of time arranging the schedule, getting here there, only to find out that she could only have 4 sessions each of OT (30 min) and Speech (1 hour). Of course, the only summer school for typical kids that the district is offereing this summer is for " at risk " kids going into grades 3, 4 and 5. So, does anyone just keep thier kids at home for the summer and let them rest from school? I feel guilty that I'm considering not taking an educational opportunity that she might benefit from, but I don't think she's going to get much from 4x speech and OT (with new therapists, of course), and the ESY year special day classes are horrible..... too many kids, not always taught by special ed teachers, loud, chaotic, etc. Do kids with DS benefit from a little summer rest (assuming we will still read and write, which I make everyone do during the summer, mean mommy I am), or might she regress too much? Thoughts? I know all kids are different, but generalized opinions are great. Also, what about gettting them to pay a tutor during the summer (say 3x/week for 1 1/2 hour, 5 weeks)???? Do I have any basis for asking for this, and if so, what might it be? If she is fully included in a regular class, with no resource pullouts (only speech, OT, and APE), AND they agree she need/would benefit from ESY, are they not obligated to provide it in her agreeded upon LRE? If they will not provide a tutor, can I make them provide me with a summer curriculum, including books, worksheets,etc????? We will be meeting on Thursday, and I'm sure this will come up, so please, give me some ideas! Thanks, , mom to (9), (7 DS), and (5) Click reply to all for messages to go to the list. Just hit reply for messages to go to the sender of the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2005 Report Share Posted April 12, 2005 What a great idea! I hadn't thought of having a teenager to tutor. I think would probably respond better to a teen than she does to me. Also helps with socialization, etc. Sharon H. Mom to , (13, DS) and , (9) South Carolina ESY Well, it's that time of year again....... time to be thinking about Extended School Year. The Resource teacher found me at school today and had the ESY form..... showed me and said, " well, are you interested? " Told her I was interested in typical summer school. She smiled, and said that the only summer school classes were special day (NSH) classes...... basically, they are going to put all the resource kids into special day classes for the summer. Won't that make the special day teachers happy....... they've got a nice routine going, good students, and now a bunch of new kids will be dropped in for 6 weeks. Told her that I wasn't interested in that (we have not had good luck with ESY yet), and that last year she had speech and OT itinerant (which new Resource Teacher hadn't mentioned as an option), but it was only 4 weeks, so we spent a huge amount of time arranging the schedule, getting here there, only to find out that she could only have 4 sessions each of OT (30 min) and Speech (1 hour). Of course, the only summer school for typical kids that the district is offereing this summer is for " at risk " kids going into grades 3, 4 and 5. So, does anyone just keep thier kids at home for the summer and let them rest from school? I feel guilty that I'm considering not taking an educational opportunity that she might benefit from, but I don't think she's going to get much from 4x speech and OT (with new therapists, of course), and the ESY year special day classes are horrible..... too many kids, not always taught by special ed teachers, loud, chaotic, etc. Do kids with DS benefit from a little summer rest (assuming we will still read and write, which I make everyone do during the summer, mean mommy I am), or might she regress too much? Thoughts? I know all kids are different, but generalized opinions are great. Also, what about gettting them to pay a tutor during the summer (say 3x/week for 1 1/2 hour, 5 weeks)???? Do I have any basis for asking for this, and if so, what might it be? If she is fully included in a regular class, with no resource pullouts (only speech, OT, and APE), AND they agree she need/would benefit from ESY, are they not obligated to provide it in her agreeded upon LRE? If they will not provide a tutor, can I make them provide me with a summer curriculum, including books, worksheets,etc????? We will be meeting on Thursday, and I'm sure this will come up, so please, give me some ideas! Thanks, , mom to (9), (7 DS), and (5) Click reply to all for messages to go to the list. Just hit reply for messages to go to the sender of the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2005 Report Share Posted April 12, 2005 What a wonderful idea... to hire highschoolers. If you don't mind what is appropriate pay for a 90 minute session? Shirley > > From: " Jill " <thrill@...> > Date: 2005/04/12 Tue PM 08:30:11 EDT > " " < >, > " Kerrigan " <leslie-kerrigan@...> > Subject: Re: ESY > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2005 Report Share Posted April 12, 2005 What a wonderful idea... to hire highschoolers. If you don't mind what is appropriate pay for a 90 minute session? Shirley > > From: " Jill " <thrill@...> > Date: 2005/04/12 Tue PM 08:30:11 EDT > " " < >, > " Kerrigan " <leslie-kerrigan@...> > Subject: Re: ESY > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2005 Report Share Posted April 13, 2005 >As for the PT,OT,ST, I would ask if services are provided over the summer. > >Nina Mom to Tiana age 9 and AShlee age 6 (CwDS) (who has her IEP tomorrow!) > > She could receive these services, but it's once or twice per week for 4 weeks, so the hassle of either getting transportation set up for such a short time (transportation can never find our house, takes them weeks to get it right) OR me driving her across the district to the school where services are given (20-25 min drive each way, depending on the school.... and ESY is ALWAYS at the newer schools on the other side of town). Did this last year, and it was a waste of time. Plus, it always interferres with swimming lessons, which I also thought were valuable lessons :-) or going to the beach (which I only do on " beach days " when a group of us take our kids together..... I don't take my brood alone, especially my runner!) Good luck tomorrow at your IEP.... we'll be there too, 8 am, hashing out behavior goals, evaluations for the trienial, and other stuff. , mom to (9), (7 DS), and (5) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2005 Report Share Posted April 13, 2005 >As for the PT,OT,ST, I would ask if services are provided over the summer. > >Nina Mom to Tiana age 9 and AShlee age 6 (CwDS) (who has her IEP tomorrow!) > > She could receive these services, but it's once or twice per week for 4 weeks, so the hassle of either getting transportation set up for such a short time (transportation can never find our house, takes them weeks to get it right) OR me driving her across the district to the school where services are given (20-25 min drive each way, depending on the school.... and ESY is ALWAYS at the newer schools on the other side of town). Did this last year, and it was a waste of time. Plus, it always interferres with swimming lessons, which I also thought were valuable lessons :-) or going to the beach (which I only do on " beach days " when a group of us take our kids together..... I don't take my brood alone, especially my runner!) Good luck tomorrow at your IEP.... we'll be there too, 8 am, hashing out behavior goals, evaluations for the trienial, and other stuff. , mom to (9), (7 DS), and (5) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2005 Report Share Posted April 13, 2005 In a message dated 4/12/2005 9:29:27 PM Eastern Standard Time, writes: So, does anyone just keep thier kids at home for the summer and let them rest from school? It is so hard for some families to get ESY for their children, but for Sheila our district has treated it as a given. Despite that the summer between 1/2 day kindy and full day kindy we chose to give Sheila a break. It was the longest hardest summer. She was bored and she lost so much ground. There was another summer that we were going to be away for the 2 middle weeks of a 6 week summer program, so again we were going to opt out. However, our district proposed 2 weeks right after the school year finished a teacher and the speech therapist would work her for 2 hours 5 days a week and then they would do it again the last 2 weeks of August (just before the new school year). That summer she didn't regress nearly as much and recovery time was much better in the fall. Since then we have worked our vacation schedule around her summer school. nancy (mom of , Sheila-DS and Colleen) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2005 Report Share Posted April 13, 2005 In a message dated 4/12/2005 9:29:27 PM Eastern Standard Time, writes: So, does anyone just keep thier kids at home for the summer and let them rest from school? It is so hard for some families to get ESY for their children, but for Sheila our district has treated it as a given. Despite that the summer between 1/2 day kindy and full day kindy we chose to give Sheila a break. It was the longest hardest summer. She was bored and she lost so much ground. There was another summer that we were going to be away for the 2 middle weeks of a 6 week summer program, so again we were going to opt out. However, our district proposed 2 weeks right after the school year finished a teacher and the speech therapist would work her for 2 hours 5 days a week and then they would do it again the last 2 weeks of August (just before the new school year). That summer she didn't regress nearly as much and recovery time was much better in the fall. Since then we have worked our vacation schedule around her summer school. nancy (mom of , Sheila-DS and Colleen) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2005 Report Share Posted April 13, 2005 Last years ESY was awful. They sent him to Easter Seals which has great program but not appropriate for Nic. They group by age, not ability. There were 11 kids in the class. 4 kids (Nic included) were all about the same abilities. They rest were all severely disabled I.e. serious medical issues, feeding tubes, etc. There was a teacher and 2 high school aged aides. I visited 3-4 times and had my BS visit several times. The teacher's time was mainly taken up by diaper changes and feedings because the aides were not allowed to do it. Nic and the others basically had the run of the room. They didn't even take them outside for a recess because they just couldn't handle all of them. they left a door at the end of a hall propped open. Nic escaped several times. This year the district has 3 ESY classes. 2 are all learning support kids divided by " age " . nic will be in the younger kids' class. the third class is at another school and is strictly kids with autism. I have a better feeling about this class. It is taught by a special ed teacher and 1 classroom aide. Nic will not have any therapies or 1:1. I figure if anything, it'll keep the school routine going. Di ESY Well, it's that time of year again....... time to be thinking about Extended School Year. The Resource teacher found me at school today and had the ESY form..... showed me and said, " well, are you interested? " Told her I was interested in typical summer school. She smiled, and said that the only summer school classes were special day (NSH) classes...... basically, they are going to put all the resource kids into special day classes for the summer. Won't that make the special day teachers happy....... they've got a nice routine going, good students, and now a bunch of new kids will be dropped in for 6 weeks. Told her that I wasn't interested in that (we have not had good luck with ESY yet), and that last year she had speech and OT itinerant (which new Resource Teacher hadn't mentioned as an option), but it was only 4 weeks, so we spent a huge amount of time arranging the schedule, getting here there, only to find out that she could only have 4 sessions each of OT (30 min) and Speech (1 hour). Of course, the only summer school for typical kids that the district is offereing this summer is for " at risk " kids going into grades 3, 4 and 5. So, does anyone just keep thier kids at home for the summer and let them rest from school? I feel guilty that I'm considering not taking an educational opportunity that she might benefit from, but I don't think she's going to get much from 4x speech and OT (with new therapists, of course), and the ESY year special day classes are horrible..... too many kids, not always taught by special ed teachers, loud, chaotic, etc. Do kids with DS benefit from a little summer rest (assuming we will still read and write, which I make everyone do during the summer, mean mommy I am), or might she regress too much? Thoughts? I know all kids are different, but generalized opinions are great. Also, what about gettting them to pay a tutor during the summer (say 3x/week for 1 1/2 hour, 5 weeks)???? Do I have any basis for asking for this, and if so, what might it be? If she is fully included in a regular class, with no resource pullouts (only speech, OT, and APE), AND they agree she need/would benefit from ESY, are they not obligated to provide it in her agreeded upon LRE? If they will not provide a tutor, can I make them provide me with a summer curriculum, including books, worksheets,etc????? We will be meeting on Thursday, and I'm sure this will come up, so please, give me some ideas! Thanks, , mom to (9), (7 DS), and (5) Click reply to all for messages to go to the list. Just hit reply for messages to go to the sender of the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2005 Report Share Posted April 13, 2005 Last years ESY was awful. They sent him to Easter Seals which has great program but not appropriate for Nic. They group by age, not ability. There were 11 kids in the class. 4 kids (Nic included) were all about the same abilities. They rest were all severely disabled I.e. serious medical issues, feeding tubes, etc. There was a teacher and 2 high school aged aides. I visited 3-4 times and had my BS visit several times. The teacher's time was mainly taken up by diaper changes and feedings because the aides were not allowed to do it. Nic and the others basically had the run of the room. They didn't even take them outside for a recess because they just couldn't handle all of them. they left a door at the end of a hall propped open. Nic escaped several times. This year the district has 3 ESY classes. 2 are all learning support kids divided by " age " . nic will be in the younger kids' class. the third class is at another school and is strictly kids with autism. I have a better feeling about this class. It is taught by a special ed teacher and 1 classroom aide. Nic will not have any therapies or 1:1. I figure if anything, it'll keep the school routine going. Di ESY Well, it's that time of year again....... time to be thinking about Extended School Year. The Resource teacher found me at school today and had the ESY form..... showed me and said, " well, are you interested? " Told her I was interested in typical summer school. She smiled, and said that the only summer school classes were special day (NSH) classes...... basically, they are going to put all the resource kids into special day classes for the summer. Won't that make the special day teachers happy....... they've got a nice routine going, good students, and now a bunch of new kids will be dropped in for 6 weeks. Told her that I wasn't interested in that (we have not had good luck with ESY yet), and that last year she had speech and OT itinerant (which new Resource Teacher hadn't mentioned as an option), but it was only 4 weeks, so we spent a huge amount of time arranging the schedule, getting here there, only to find out that she could only have 4 sessions each of OT (30 min) and Speech (1 hour). Of course, the only summer school for typical kids that the district is offereing this summer is for " at risk " kids going into grades 3, 4 and 5. So, does anyone just keep thier kids at home for the summer and let them rest from school? I feel guilty that I'm considering not taking an educational opportunity that she might benefit from, but I don't think she's going to get much from 4x speech and OT (with new therapists, of course), and the ESY year special day classes are horrible..... too many kids, not always taught by special ed teachers, loud, chaotic, etc. Do kids with DS benefit from a little summer rest (assuming we will still read and write, which I make everyone do during the summer, mean mommy I am), or might she regress too much? Thoughts? I know all kids are different, but generalized opinions are great. Also, what about gettting them to pay a tutor during the summer (say 3x/week for 1 1/2 hour, 5 weeks)???? Do I have any basis for asking for this, and if so, what might it be? If she is fully included in a regular class, with no resource pullouts (only speech, OT, and APE), AND they agree she need/would benefit from ESY, are they not obligated to provide it in her agreeded upon LRE? If they will not provide a tutor, can I make them provide me with a summer curriculum, including books, worksheets,etc????? We will be meeting on Thursday, and I'm sure this will come up, so please, give me some ideas! Thanks, , mom to (9), (7 DS), and (5) Click reply to all for messages to go to the list. Just hit reply for messages to go to the sender of the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2005 Report Share Posted April 13, 2005 Oh yeah, Nic's ESY program is 5 weeks long Di ESY Well, it's that time of year again....... time to be thinking about Extended School Year. The Resource teacher found me at school today and had the ESY form..... showed me and said, " well, are you interested? " Told her I was interested in typical summer school. She smiled, and said that the only summer school classes were special day (NSH) classes...... basically, they are going to put all the resource kids into special day classes for the summer. Won't that make the special day teachers happy....... they've got a nice routine going, good students, and now a bunch of new kids will be dropped in for 6 weeks. Told her that I wasn't interested in that (we have not had good luck with ESY yet), and that last year she had speech and OT itinerant (which new Resource Teacher hadn't mentioned as an option), but it was only 4 weeks, so we spent a huge amount of time arranging the schedule, getting here there, only to find out that she could only have 4 sessions each of OT (30 min) and Speech (1 hour). Of course, the only summer school for typical kids that the district is offereing this summer is for " at risk " kids going into grades 3, 4 and 5. So, does anyone just keep thier kids at home for the summer and let them rest from school? I feel guilty that I'm considering not taking an educational opportunity that she might benefit from, but I don't think she's going to get much from 4x speech and OT (with new therapists, of course), and the ESY year special day classes are horrible..... too many kids, not always taught by special ed teachers, loud, chaotic, etc. Do kids with DS benefit from a little summer rest (assuming we will still read and write, which I make everyone do during the summer, mean mommy I am), or might she regress too much? Thoughts? I know all kids are different, but generalized opinions are great. Also, what about gettting them to pay a tutor during the summer (say 3x/week for 1 1/2 hour, 5 weeks)???? Do I have any basis for asking for this, and if so, what might it be? If she is fully included in a regular class, with no resource pullouts (only speech, OT, and APE), AND they agree she need/would benefit from ESY, are they not obligated to provide it in her agreeded upon LRE? If they will not provide a tutor, can I make them provide me with a summer curriculum, including books, worksheets,etc????? We will be meeting on Thursday, and I'm sure this will come up, so please, give me some ideas! Thanks, , mom to (9), (7 DS), and (5) Click reply to all for messages to go to the list. Just hit reply for messages to go to the sender of the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2005 Report Share Posted April 13, 2005 Oh yeah, Nic's ESY program is 5 weeks long Di ESY Well, it's that time of year again....... time to be thinking about Extended School Year. The Resource teacher found me at school today and had the ESY form..... showed me and said, " well, are you interested? " Told her I was interested in typical summer school. She smiled, and said that the only summer school classes were special day (NSH) classes...... basically, they are going to put all the resource kids into special day classes for the summer. Won't that make the special day teachers happy....... they've got a nice routine going, good students, and now a bunch of new kids will be dropped in for 6 weeks. Told her that I wasn't interested in that (we have not had good luck with ESY yet), and that last year she had speech and OT itinerant (which new Resource Teacher hadn't mentioned as an option), but it was only 4 weeks, so we spent a huge amount of time arranging the schedule, getting here there, only to find out that she could only have 4 sessions each of OT (30 min) and Speech (1 hour). Of course, the only summer school for typical kids that the district is offereing this summer is for " at risk " kids going into grades 3, 4 and 5. So, does anyone just keep thier kids at home for the summer and let them rest from school? I feel guilty that I'm considering not taking an educational opportunity that she might benefit from, but I don't think she's going to get much from 4x speech and OT (with new therapists, of course), and the ESY year special day classes are horrible..... too many kids, not always taught by special ed teachers, loud, chaotic, etc. Do kids with DS benefit from a little summer rest (assuming we will still read and write, which I make everyone do during the summer, mean mommy I am), or might she regress too much? Thoughts? I know all kids are different, but generalized opinions are great. Also, what about gettting them to pay a tutor during the summer (say 3x/week for 1 1/2 hour, 5 weeks)???? Do I have any basis for asking for this, and if so, what might it be? If she is fully included in a regular class, with no resource pullouts (only speech, OT, and APE), AND they agree she need/would benefit from ESY, are they not obligated to provide it in her agreeded upon LRE? If they will not provide a tutor, can I make them provide me with a summer curriculum, including books, worksheets,etc????? We will be meeting on Thursday, and I'm sure this will come up, so please, give me some ideas! Thanks, , mom to (9), (7 DS), and (5) Click reply to all for messages to go to the list. Just hit reply for messages to go to the sender of the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2005 Report Share Posted April 13, 2005 We don't choose ESY for our son. We do plenty of activities that I believe are equally life enriching. I look forward to the break also. I don't really understand why I look forward to summer because all school year I have free time while he is in school. Years ago I mentioned that ESY was available for him, and his older brother (who hated school) wanted to know why I would want to punish Josiah by ESY. That opinion didn't influence our decision. He has camps to go to. Sometimes I would take a car full of cousins to a fun swimming pool. We also go to the lake for water sports behind the boat. Our city parks dept puts on a DDA Camp--Developmentally Disabled Activities Day Camp. Every day they take the kids to a fun activity. One day is our local amusement park (with rides), bowling, skating, swimming at the city pool with cool water slides, pizza and a movie at a theater, a cookout, etc. The cost is $60 a week which includes all the fees and most day's lunches. It is just wonderful...Josiah loves it. Last year was our first year to participate. We've signed up for two weeks of it. Well!! you asked if everyone used the ESY. Hope you all have a wonderful day. Shirley > > From: NEHolroyd@... > Date: 2005/04/13 Wed PM 05:04:34 EDT > > Subject: Re: ESY > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2005 Report Share Posted April 13, 2005 We don't choose ESY for our son. We do plenty of activities that I believe are equally life enriching. I look forward to the break also. I don't really understand why I look forward to summer because all school year I have free time while he is in school. Years ago I mentioned that ESY was available for him, and his older brother (who hated school) wanted to know why I would want to punish Josiah by ESY. That opinion didn't influence our decision. He has camps to go to. Sometimes I would take a car full of cousins to a fun swimming pool. We also go to the lake for water sports behind the boat. Our city parks dept puts on a DDA Camp--Developmentally Disabled Activities Day Camp. Every day they take the kids to a fun activity. One day is our local amusement park (with rides), bowling, skating, swimming at the city pool with cool water slides, pizza and a movie at a theater, a cookout, etc. The cost is $60 a week which includes all the fees and most day's lunches. It is just wonderful...Josiah loves it. Last year was our first year to participate. We've signed up for two weeks of it. Well!! you asked if everyone used the ESY. Hope you all have a wonderful day. Shirley > > From: NEHolroyd@... > Date: 2005/04/13 Wed PM 05:04:34 EDT > > Subject: Re: ESY > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2005 Report Share Posted April 13, 2005 When we had Nic's ESY meeting in Feb. they said he didn't regress in anything (except pencil grasp) but they still recommended ESY-but with no therapies. Di Re: ESY In a message dated 4/12/2005 9:29:27 PM Eastern Standard Time, writes: So, does anyone just keep thier kids at home for the summer and let them rest from school? It is so hard for some families to get ESY for their children, but for Sheila our district has treated it as a given. Despite that the summer between 1/2 day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2005 Report Share Posted April 13, 2005 When we had Nic's ESY meeting in Feb. they said he didn't regress in anything (except pencil grasp) but they still recommended ESY-but with no therapies. Di Re: ESY In a message dated 4/12/2005 9:29:27 PM Eastern Standard Time, writes: So, does anyone just keep thier kids at home for the summer and let them rest from school? It is so hard for some families to get ESY for their children, but for Sheila our district has treated it as a given. Despite that the summer between 1/2 day Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2005 Report Share Posted April 13, 2005 WOW, Di, That seems to defeat the point of his regression....DUH!!! Don't you just love how they do things. mom to Bridget 12 wife to in upstate SC Re: Re: ESY When we had Nic's ESY meeting in Feb. they said he didn't regress in anything (except pencil grasp) but they still recommended ESY-but with no therapies. Di Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2005 Report Share Posted April 13, 2005 WOW, Di, That seems to defeat the point of his regression....DUH!!! Don't you just love how they do things. mom to Bridget 12 wife to in upstate SC Re: Re: ESY When we had Nic's ESY meeting in Feb. they said he didn't regress in anything (except pencil grasp) but they still recommended ESY-but with no therapies. Di Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2005 Report Share Posted April 13, 2005 Wow, I'd love a summer camp like that! Where do you live? mom to Bridget 12 wife to in upstate SC Re: Re: ESY We don't choose ESY for our son. We do plenty of activities that I believe are equally life enriching. I look forward to the break also. I don't really understand why I look forward to summer because all school year I have free time while he is in school. Years ago I mentioned that ESY was available for him, and his older brother (who hated school) wanted to know why I would want to punish Josiah by ESY. That opinion didn't influence our decision. He has camps to go to. Sometimes I would take a car full of cousins to a fun swimming pool. We also go to the lake for water sports behind the boat. Our city parks dept puts on a DDA Camp--Developmentally Disabled Activities Day Camp. Every day they take the kids to a fun activity. One day is our local amusement park (with rides), bowling, skating, swimming at the city pool with cool water slides, pizza and a movie at a theater, a cookout, etc. The cost is $60 a week which includes all the fees and most day's lunches. It is just wonderful...Josiah loves it. Last year was our first year to participate. We've signed up for two weeks of it. Well!! you asked if everyone used the ESY. Hope you all have a wonderful day. Shirley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2005 Report Share Posted April 13, 2005 Wow, I'd love a summer camp like that! Where do you live? mom to Bridget 12 wife to in upstate SC Re: Re: ESY We don't choose ESY for our son. We do plenty of activities that I believe are equally life enriching. I look forward to the break also. I don't really understand why I look forward to summer because all school year I have free time while he is in school. Years ago I mentioned that ESY was available for him, and his older brother (who hated school) wanted to know why I would want to punish Josiah by ESY. That opinion didn't influence our decision. He has camps to go to. Sometimes I would take a car full of cousins to a fun swimming pool. We also go to the lake for water sports behind the boat. Our city parks dept puts on a DDA Camp--Developmentally Disabled Activities Day Camp. Every day they take the kids to a fun activity. One day is our local amusement park (with rides), bowling, skating, swimming at the city pool with cool water slides, pizza and a movie at a theater, a cookout, etc. The cost is $60 a week which includes all the fees and most day's lunches. It is just wonderful...Josiah loves it. Last year was our first year to participate. We've signed up for two weeks of it. Well!! you asked if everyone used the ESY. Hope you all have a wonderful day. Shirley Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2005 Report Share Posted April 13, 2005 Bridget gets the summer off. We swim, go to the playground, zoo, have private therapy, etc... Bridget does not seem to regress much. She enjoys the break. Getting her to school is a hassle, so we enjoy relaxing mornings for a change. We even take a break from therapy occasionally to get a fresh start. Typically she will miss 3 sessions in a row and be ready to go back with a renewed since of energy for trying. mom to Bridget 12 wife to in upstate SC Re: ESY >As for the PT,OT,ST, I would ask if services are provided over the summer. > >Nina Mom to Tiana age 9 and AShlee age 6 (CwDS) (who has her IEP tomorrow!) > > She could receive these services, but it's once or twice per week for 4 weeks, so the hassle of either getting transportation set up for such a short time (transportation can never find our house, takes them weeks to get it right) OR me driving her across the district to the school where services are given (20-25 min drive each way, depending on the school.... and ESY is ALWAYS at the newer schools on the other side of town). Did this last year, and it was a waste of time. Plus, it always interferres with swimming lessons, which I also thought were valuable lessons :-) or going to the beach (which I only do on " beach days " when a group of us take our kids together..... I don't take my brood alone, especially my runner!) Good luck tomorrow at your IEP.... we'll be there too, 8 am, hashing out behavior goals, evaluations for the trienial, and other stuff. , mom to (9), (7 DS), and (5) Click reply to all for messages to go to the list. Just hit reply for messages to go to the sender of the message. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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