ESY

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 4/30/02 8:49:45 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

writes:

> Regression is not the only

> consideration for ESY either, try emerging skills and communication to name

> a

> few that all our kids qualify for.

>

Well, that's what I said, but in our school district, they must show

REGRESSION to be approved for ESY or everyone and their brother would be able

to go....lots of kids have no progress or very limited progress......they

would have to let all of them go...personally, I think EVERY special needs

child should go, no matter HOW they did during the school year.....our kids

NEED the routine, so that there's less adjusting to once school year starts

again.

JMHO,

[Guest guest]

At 06:08 PM 5/2/2002 EDT, you wrote:

>Well, that's what I said, but in our school district, they must show

>REGRESSION to be approved for ESY or everyone and their brother would be

able

>to go....lots of kids have no progress or very limited progress......they

>would have to let all of them go...personally, I think EVERY special needs

>child should go, no matter HOW they did during the school year.....our kids

>NEED the routine, so that there's less adjusting to once school year starts

>again.

;

do you havea copy of the texas state regulations? If not, do a search to

look for them. In those regulations you will find the manner that TX has

chosen to interpret IDEAs rulings about ESY.

That will help you decide how to approach the school.

Personally, I think you would be best off showing (through data of the

school and pointed questions) that his IEP was never implemented,

therefore, they have nto taught him. Then you can say you'll trade ESY for

compensatory ed. I've used this for 3 years running. But first you must

point out that the IEP--as written--was not implemented.

j

[Guest guest]

The school district attends he is automatically placed in ESY

every summer as his disability conditon for review of eligibility:

Mental retardation, speech impairment, & autism. As y'all have

written, I was curious to see what had been requested. On the ESY

Consideration Form it asked - Failure to provide ESY will likely

result in one or more of the following:

NOTE: If " yes " you must list specific areas of regression that cannot

be recouped within first 6 weeks of school.

YES: Significant loss of sufficiency in daily living skills.

This is what his teacher had written: Consistency of following a

schedule. Loss of communication skills, toilet training.

That was all and he qualified. I'm not too crazy for him to attend

ESY as he never really learns as its a different teacher. So another

trail this summer.

Irma,13,DS/ASD

> In a message dated 4/30/02 8:49:45 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

> @y... writes:

>

>

> > Regression is not the only

> > consideration for ESY either, try emerging skills and

communication to name

> > a

> > few that all our kids qualify for.

> >

>

> Well, that's what I said, but in our school district, they must

show

> REGRESSION to be approved for ESY or everyone and their brother

would be able

> to go....lots of kids have no progress or very limited

progress......they

> would have to let all of them go...personally, I think EVERY

special needs

> child should go, no matter HOW they did during the school

year.....our kids

> NEED the routine, so that there's less adjusting to once school

year starts

> again.

>

> JMHO,

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 1/27/2003 9:16:30 AM Eastern Standard Time,

drf218@... writes:

> What should I

> bring to prepare? This will be our first one.

I would suggest you check your state's web site and see what info they have on

ESY. I have a great document on ESY ... but it is in written format. Let me

see if I can get the file and send to you!

New Mexico has GREAT info on ESY ... check their dept. of education site and

read all about it, along with suggestions that you may be able to use.

Cheryl in VA

[Guest guest]

,

The school here is already talking about curving ESY. 's teacher is

awesome though and he wanted my thoughts. I told him I thought should

go to summer school (it runs 4 weeks during July - but we'll be on vacation the

first week). The program is only 1/2 day and can spend the rest of the

time at the pool with his sisters.

We are using emerging skills and maintaining (behavior) skills to qualify. I

don't see where testing is needed - maybe an assessment to see if it's taken him

time to regroup/ retain after being ill (another qualifier). There is another

word for that, but I have CRS today.

ESY

I have a question about ESY. Blake went to preschool last fall. In

October he had surgery. We tried to send him back to preschool in

December, but he was sick so frequently that we just decided to keep

him out of preschool until next year.

He has been getting therapy at home, but we need to formally rewrite

the IEP to say he is getting home based therapy. Also, a lot of the

goals in the current IEP are preschool focused. I am getting ready

to request an IEP meeting because of this, and started wondering....

Do I need to formally request extended school year services to ensure

that he will receive therapy throughout the summer? I know the

school psych mentioned last year that he would need to be tested to

see if he *qualifes* for ESY. Can someone tell me more about the

testing and how I formally request it. Thanks!

Schulte

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,

What state are you in? IDEA does not require testing to determine if a child

qualifies for ESY. What does your state's DOE say about ESY?

Cheryl in VA

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In a message dated 3/7/2004 1:55:25 PM Central Standard Time,

cindysue@... writes:

> ,

>

> The school here is already talking about curving ESY. 's teacher is

> awesome though and he wanted my thoughts. I told him I thought

> should go to summer school (it runs 4 weeks during July - but we'll be on

vacation

> the first week). The program is only 1/2 day and can spend the rest

> of the time at the pool with his sisters.

>

> We are using emerging skills and maintaining (behavior) skills to qualify.

> I don't see where testing is needed - maybe an assessment to see if it's

> taken him time to regroup/ retain after being ill (another qualifier). There

is

> another word for that, but I have CRS today.

>

>

HI

I have an IEP meeting tomorrow (uggggggggggg) to discuss ESY, it's been

scheduled for yrs as 2 weeks on/2 weeks off ............... Sara has shown

regression after 2 weeks in the past so it's scheduled this way. It also is half

days

so pool time with friends in the afternoon.

Im hoping for NO debates tomorrow over ESY, right now Im not really into this

meeting so I may not be the most compromising, sweet parent lol

Kathy mom to Sara 12 .............. Sara works on reading and math in the

summer

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[Guest guest]

They don't do testing to determine ESY. There are certain guidelines

they have to look at to see if Blake meets them to require the school to provide

ESY. Most schools around here try to look only at regression without recoupment

within reasonable time. They will say that the child doesn't meet the standard

and deny ESY. Others include, some of the things mentioned by others. Progess

toward goals; if service has not been provided during school year for some

reason. If you go to the dept. of Education web site and look up the special ed

state regs under ESY you can find a listing of all the considerations. Make

sure the school considers all of them. I would think with all the school that

he missed, he would surely qualify. Good luck. Darcy

Re: ESY

,

What state are you in? IDEA does not require testing to determine if a child

qualifies for ESY. What does your state's DOE say about ESY?

Cheryl in VA

[Guest guest]

The way I understand it, they " collect data " before a break (like Winter break

about 2 weeks long) then collect again when they come back from break to see if

there is any regression. There are al;so other factors that determined whether

they need ESY or not also.

We just had Nic's and they said he had no regression but needed to go due to

" behavior goals " .

Di

Re: ESY

,

What state are you in? IDEA does not require testing to determine if a child

qualifies for ESY. What does your state's DOE say about ESY?

Cheryl in VA

[Guest guest]

To show the differences in kids: 's preschool teacher told me

more than once that once learned something he didn't forget it as much

as the regular kids. You know, how sometimes they will study something and

then move on to something else and then come back. He could pick up right

where they left off. She was amazed. I notice he's like an elephant too, never

forgets. Kind of a nuisance sometimes, but also handy if I forget some thing.

And he has a head full of useless trivia.

Jessie

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In a message dated 3/8/2004 9:53:56 PM Central Standard Time, JB66111@...

writes:

> To show the differences in kids: 's preschool teacher told me

> more than once that once learned something he didn't forget it as

> much

> as the regular kids. You know, how sometimes they will study something and

> then move on to something else and then come back. He could pick up right

> where they left off. She was amazed. I notice he's like an elephant too,

> never

> forgets. Kind of a nuisance sometimes, but also handy if I forget some

> thing.

> And he has a head full of useless trivia.

> Jessie

>

I find this to be true with micah also. It seems like we are going nowhere

fast and then all of a sudden he has whatever it is we are working on and that

is it. He has it. This can be a double edged sword however because he has

older brothers and anything " bad " he learns can be a real problem lol!!

Loree

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Hi,

That's pretty much how I've felt for - she needs her summer to relax,

read books for fun, hang with her working mom, get a different experience like

camp or some arts related activites. And if they went to school during the

summer, when would they learn things like swimming and enjoying a good book

under a shady tree?

She always reads a few books that we keep track of and always practices her

money skills - how could she learn to be an awesome shopper, otherwise??? LOL

I also think that its different for each of our kids- many kids get ESY to

maintain their skills and not to regress. And sometimes ESY gives moms a good

break too!

~ Mom to 13 DS and Diabetes Type 1 and 9 NY

[Guest guest]

I have just requested a review of ESY for my son this year. We have hit a

point where he really wants to work on his speech and is very cooperative

with the speech therapist. When I mentioned this today to his preschool

teacher, she indicated that she was considering the same thing. He is not

regressing but is at a very good point in his development so the decision is

to push ahead for ESY for speech only.

There was one piece of advise that I was given shortly after my son was born

and again right after he started school, that advice was that kids with DS

are just like any other kid and look foward to summer breaks as much as

anyother kid.

I do not plan on making my son go to ESY every year for the rest of his

eligibility, but if there is a specific subject or skill that needs

additional work I may consider it. He did not go last year, but will most

likely go for Speech only this summer.

Katy Touve

mom to 6, twins and Tyler(DS) 4

[Guest guest]

Caty just does speech in the summer.(only about 3 weeks) Our school doesn't

have much of a summer program anyway, but even if it did....I'd let her take

the summer off. I only make her go to speech because her's is SO poor. We

need all the help we can get!

& Caty (summer lazybums, sleep late, pool goers)

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In a message dated 3/9/2004 10:01:29 PM Eastern Standard Time,

linman42@... writes:

> I also think that its different for each of our kids- many kids get ESY to

> maintain their skills and not to regress. And sometimes ESY gives moms a

> good

> break too!

I'm glad this topic came up because, honestly I never considered NOT sending

him.

It definitely gives me something to think about in the coming years. We took

a break between EI and pre-school where we stayed home and let therapists

come to us. Liam's so active, though and there are very few little kids on the

block he got bored easily. I think for now I'll keep him in the routine and

maybe give him a break summer after next.

Kathy, Liam's mom( 5)

[Guest guest]

I have been pondering this as well. Don't know what they will offer,

now that we are in kindergarten, but I found with preschool, the first

year I pulled her out after the first week because it was a total joke.

Regular ed 3rd grade teacher, had no idea of how to work with

preschoolers or special needs children.... ughhhhhhh. The next two

summers, her regular preschool teacher taught summer school, as well as

most of the aides, so it was a great continuation of goals from the same

staff (plus they did a lot of fun activities, water play, etc.). I

didn't have to think much about sending her.

So, I'm thinking that trying to continue Speech and OT (she is just

starting to really get OK with writing and cutting.... not as much of a

battle to sit down and do it, so it seems like we should push on this

one). I'm pretty sure they will offer either 4 weeks of " Summer School "

that is offered to typical kids, or " Special Day " summer school, but

will balk at me requesting Speech and OT...... they don't think out of

the box very easily. Plus, our school is getting torn down and rebuilt,

starting as soon as school is out in June, and I doubt our temprary

location will be set up yet, so there will be the matter of where all of

our students will attend summer classes.

I do like the advice you mentioned Katy, that kids with DS also need

summer breaks. We push so hard to get them the education and services

they need, that it's difficult to think we might " not do something " that

they are entitled to, just in the name of rest and relaxation :-)

, mom to (8), (6 DS), and (4)

Katy Touve wrote:

>I have just requested a review of ESY for my son this year. We have hit a

>point where he really wants to work on his speech and is very cooperative

>with the speech therapist. When I mentioned this today to his preschool

>teacher, she indicated that she was considering the same thing. He is not

>regressing but is at a very good point in his development so the decision is

>to push ahead for ESY for speech only.

>

>There was one piece of advise that I was given shortly after my son was born

>and again right after he started school, that advice was that kids with DS

>are just like any other kid and look foward to summer breaks as much as

>anyother kid.

>

>I do not plan on making my son go to ESY every year for the rest of his

>eligibility, but if there is a specific subject or skill that needs

>additional work I may consider it. He did not go last year, but will most

>likely go for Speech only this summer.

>

>

>Katy Touve

>mom to 6, twins and Tyler(DS) 4

>

>

>

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we dont have summer schools here oin Oz that I know of.

These past 12 months have been a joke for BJ school wise. And our summer

break is around 6 weeks. I puit BJ into vacation care- which is like

daycare for school kids- they have activities and all sorts things. they

even go on excursions. BJ goes 3 fukk days. in each school holiday.

I will post about BJ and school seperatley. Im in a good mood at the mo

and dont wanna completly spoil my morning, so will leaveit fir now

Mom2lfm@... wrote:

>In a message dated 3/9/2004 10:01:29 PM Eastern Standard Time,

>linman42@... writes:

>

>

>

>

>>I also think that its different for each of our kids- many kids get ESY to

>>maintain their skills and not to regress. And sometimes ESY gives moms a

>>good

>>break too!

>>

>>

>

>I'm glad this topic came up because, honestly I never considered NOT sending

>him.

>It definitely gives me something to think about in the coming years. We took

>a break between EI and pre-school where we stayed home and let therapists

>come to us. Liam's so active, though and there are very few little kids on the

>block he got bored easily. I think for now I'll keep him in the routine and

>maybe give him a break summer after next.

>Kathy, Liam's mom( 5)

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

is excrutiatingly lonely in the summer since we've been here. This is

the first place that we've lived that doesn't have summer programs. He begs to

go back to school. He gets tired of relaxing:))) We try to keep him busy but

last year couldn't afford camp, and ESY was one day a week for an hour and a

half ALONE. He swam two days a week. The boonies are really rough on kids with

DS IMHO. Nothing to do for someone who likes to be active and is super social

like . He lives for his social life:))

Elaine

Re: Re: ESY

Hi,

That's pretty much how I've felt for - she needs her summer to relax,

read books for fun, hang with her working mom, get a different experience like

camp or some arts related activites. And if they went to school during the

summer, when would they learn things like swimming and enjoying a good book

under a shady tree?

She always reads a few books that we keep track of and always practices her

money skills - how could she learn to be an awesome shopper, otherwise??? LOL

I also think that its different for each of our kids- many kids get ESY to

maintain their skills and not to regress. And sometimes ESY gives moms a good

break too!

~ Mom to 13 DS and Diabetes Type 1 and 9 NY

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Jasmine has always had a summer program at school, albeit not always a good

one. IMHO

It usually consists of 1 1/2 hours 3 days a week. They say it is good

because it gives her more 1 on 1 practice with her teacher or aid. It helps her

to

not regress, which she did do whenever I didn't send her.

She is also very bored in the summer, begging to go to school every day from

the first day of vacation till the first day they go back to school. I try to

keep her busy, going to Girl Scout 3 night campouts, going to a church

retreat for 2 nights, various G. S. events in the area, I try to take her to

the

library when I can, and we camp a lot in the summer which gives her access to a

pool and trails and playground.

Btu still, whenever she is not involved in an activity where I am helping her

or leading her, she just wants to sit in front of the tv and watch her

videos. FOR HOURS!! AND HOURS!! AND HOURS!! But, that's the way she is

now,

during the school year, too.

Any suggestions of summer activities would be appreciated. It seems like I

should be able to keep her busy with all these activities, but it also seems

like she is forever sitting in front of that tv. HELP!!!!

Toni-mom to Jasmine-12-ds-a summer couch potato

[Guest guest]

It seems I'm opening up a can of worms with my local educational coop by

insisting that Blake receive ESY. I was told (informally) by my son's

therapists that they agreed with me about his need for summer services. But,

they said good luck getting it written into the IEP because our coop has a

history of holding to the standard of limiting ESY to students who will regress

significantly during the summer break.

Thank you Cheryl for sending the citations below to the list. I'm am using

this, as well a case law and citations from my states special education law,

next week at the IEP.

I am basing my argument on the fact that Blake is 3 and at a critical stage in

developing oral motor skills, such as speaking and feeding. I am fighting for

OT and ST this summer as his OT provides his feeding therapy. These are the

area in which Blake is most significantly delayed. His oral motor skills are

delayed to the extent that regression of feeding skills would be life

threatening.

In Lawyer v. Chesterfield Co. they used the theory of " windows of opportunity "

in which Danny a boy with autism could effectively learn. They stated that this

period for a child with autism is generally between 5 and 8 years old.

Therefore, it was critical that Danny receive uninterrupted speech/language

therapy during this period.

Does anyone have any data that could help support me on when a child with DS,

(generally of course) makes significant progress with oral/verbal skills at

specific ages.

Thanks,

Schulte

Re: Re: ESY

Here's some citations, from the Center for Law and Education's site:

Question: When must a school system provide extended school year

services under the Individuals with Disabilities Education Act (“IDEAâ€)?

Answer: Extended school year (“ESYâ€) programming must be provided

if necessary to provide a child with a free appropriate public education meeting

IDEA standards. This longstanding requirement has been incorporated into the

recently promulgated IDEA regulations. See 64 Fed. Reg. 12451 (March 12, 1999)

(new 34 C.F.R. §300.309). Many states and school systems have adopted policies

limiting ESY services to those students who will regress significantly during

the summer break, and have unacceptable difficulty in recouping skills when

school resumes. The regression/recoupment standard appears nowhere in IDEA or

the implementing regulations, however, and has been faulted as too narrow by a

number of courts. See v. Independent School District No. 4, 921 F.2d

1022 (10th Cir. 1990), cert. denied, 111 S.Ct. 1685 (1991); Cordrey v. Eukert,

917 F.2d 1460 (6th Cir. 1990); Reusch v. Fountain, 872 F. Supp.1421 (D. Md.

1994); Lawyer v. Chesterfield Co. School Bd., 19 IDELR [individuals with

disabilities Education Law Report] 904, 907 (E.D. Va. 1993).

The early ESY cases focused on state policies that either

precluded services beyond the 180-day school year, or limited ESY services to

children with certain types of disabilities, or certain kinds of programmatic

needs. These policies were uniformly rejected on the ground that they violated

the IDEA (then the EHA or EAHCA) requirement that FAPE be individually

determined for each child, on the basis of his or her unique needs. See, e.g.,

Yaris v. Special School District of St. Louis County, 728 F.2d 1055 (8th Cir.

1984), affirming 558 F. Supp. 545; Georgia Assoc. for Retarded Citizens v.

Mc, 716 F.2d 1565 (11th Cir. 1983), modified in part, 740 F.2d 902 (1984),

cert. denied, 469 U.S. 1228 (1985); Crawford v. Pittman. 708 F.2d 1028 (5th Cir.

1983); Battle v. Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, 629 F.2d 269 (3rd. Cir. 1980),

cert. denied, 452 U.S. 968 (1981). Some of these cases also addressed the

circumstances under which ESY services might be deemed necessary in order to

provide a particular child with FAPE meeting federal standards. For example, the

Third Circuit in Battle, rather than adopting the regression/recoupment approach

that the lower court had adopted, reasoned instead that a child's unique needs

" are necessarily determined in reference to goals, " 629 F.2d at 276, and that

for some children, limiting services to 180 days might preclude attainment of

" reasonable educational goals " developed for the child and " be wholly

inappropriate to the child's educational objectives. " Id. at 280.

The Fifth Circuit subsequently held in Alamo Heights Ind. Schl.

Dist. v. State Bd. of Ed., 790 F.2d 1153, 1158 (5th Cir. 1986), that " if a child

will experience severe or substantial regression during the summer months in the

absence of a summer program, the...child may be entitled to year-round services.

The issue is whether the benefits accrued to the child during the regular school

year will be significantly jeopardized if he is not provided an educational

program during the summer months. " The Alamo Hts. formulation assumes that the

" regular school year " program affords the child sufficient benefit to constitute

FAPE, but for the summer regression. Where nine months of programming will not

in and of itself afford sufficient benefit, or FAPE, a child should be entitled

to ESY programming regardless of whether regression would otherwise occur. See

Lawyer v. Chesterfield County. Cf. Battle, 629 F.2d at 276 n. 9; Cordrey, 917

F.2d at 1473.

Consistent with the duty to provide FAPE, ESY standards must be

flexible, and permit consideration of a variety of factors, including but not

limited to whether the child’s current level of performance indicates that he

or she will not make meaningful progress during the regular school year in the

general curriculum or in other areas pertinent to his/her disability-related

needs, or whether the benefits accrued during the regular year might be

jeopardized by a break in the structured educational program. As the above-cited

cases provide, these determinations may be based upon professional opinion,

predictive data gleaned from relevant aspects of the child’s educational, home

and community life, or retrospective data such as past regression and rate of

recoupment. A child’s developmental needs and status are also relevant. See

Lawyer, 19 IDELR at 907 ( " [T]here is a small, but vital, window of opportunity

in which...[he] can effectively learn...Therefore, jointly considering the area

of Danny's curriculum which needs continuous attention and his vocational needs,

the Court concludes that it is extremely important that at this critical stage

of development, Danny receive uninterrupted speech language therapy.â€).

[Guest guest]

This is how we have handled ESY the past couple of years :-) Holly is 16 and

a sophomore in High School. We get ESY for Holly's " social communication "

goals. One or two mornings a week Holly meets with a group of girls of similar

age who have similar goals, and they do intensive social skill " practice " with

a speech therapist. (Last summer they went through the American girls book "

Oops, a Girls book of manners " . Then she gets consulative time for the speech

therapist to visit her in her inclusive community activities (camp etc) and

give staff consultation and to facilitate some communication activities with her

typical peers. This has really worked well for us. Holly gets time to work

on some skills in a " safe " setting, then she gets to generalize them in the

community.

M.

In a message dated 4/27/2004 9:40:07 AM Pacific Standard Time,

writes:

This is pretty much how I feel things work in our district. Kids from

all over, different educational setting, from fully included, partially

included, and full time Special Day are all put into Special Day....

take it or leave it. The teachers are sometimes SpEd teachers, other

time whomever wants a summer job. I inquired about possibilities for a

fully included child, providing a more typical setting for the summer.

From the director of SpEd, a completely unsatisfactory response to my

rather good (I though) letter:

[Guest guest]

Hi,

My son, almost 17, will be a camp counselor this summer. He will have a 1:1

job coach.

He will get paid!! (not finished working this part out yet) He was a camper

at this camp (inclusive) 2 years ago and a counselor in training last year. He

read to the younger kids---his language and speech were worked on while he

practiced. His social skills are his biggest need and he gets all that input by

being one of the counselors and taking part in all they do.It is a performing

arts camp as well so they practice skits, music, arts, crafts and so on. They

have swimming each day. He is so excited about going back he has already

picked out a book to read and has been practicing it.

Jean

[Guest guest]

This is wonderful, what a great experience for him, being the leader.

Sharon H.

Mom to , (12, DS) and , (8)

South Carolina

Re: ESY

> Hi,

> My son, almost 17, will be a camp counselor this summer. He will have a

1:1

> job coach.

> He will get paid!! (not finished working this part out yet) He was a

camper

> at this camp (inclusive) 2 years ago and a counselor in training last

year. He

> read to the younger kids---his language and speech were worked on while he

> practiced. His social skills are his biggest need and he gets all that

input by

> being one of the counselors and taking part in all they do.It is a

performing

> arts camp as well so they practice skits, music, arts, crafts and so on.

They

> have swimming each day. He is so excited about going back he has already

> picked out a book to read and has been practicing it.

> Jean

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

,

Wow you asked a ton of stuff! First of all, let me say in my experience with

amanda, she did fine without attend school during the summer. she went for

pre school and that was it. I felt that she worked so hard and needed a break

and some other activities. I always continued reading, writing and playing

math games (reinforcing skills) during the summers.

I think other areas shes explored like some day camps and sleep away camp now

for the past 2 years, has offered another type of experience which she

benefited from. Also i am home for the summer so entertaining her and my son

and

their friends is not an issue for me.

here in NYC, there is not regular summer school for kids not at risk. there

are some programs for kids who need extra help or may be held over. Special

needs kids have an option to attend and receive their services in a self

contained class (which you are right, is not LRE). My husband works with as a

para

with special needs kids in a program that runs for 6 weeks full time and they

do some academics and some socialization and they kids continue their

services.

I dont think they will give you a tutor- here they will not even give the

related services (wll sometimes, if you are willing to bring them into a site).

Again, amanda has not suffered at all from not attending- she has a friend her

age who does go every summer. Its very individual- but thats what's worked

for us.

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Wow you asked a ton of stuff! First of all, let me say in my experience with

amanda, she did fine without attend school during the summer. she went for

pre school and that was it. I felt that she worked so hard and needed a break

and some other activities. I always continued reading, writing and playing

math games (reinforcing skills) during the summers.

I think other areas shes explored like some day camps and sleep away camp now

for the past 2 years, has offered another type of experience which she

benefited from. Also i am home for the summer so entertaining her and my son

and

their friends is not an issue for me.

here in NYC, there is not regular summer school for kids not at risk. there

are some programs for kids who need extra help or may be held over. Special

needs kids have an option to attend and receive their services in a self

contained class (which you are right, is not LRE). My husband works with as a

para

with special needs kids in a program that runs for 6 weeks full time and they

do some academics and some socialization and they kids continue their

services.

I dont think they will give you a tutor- here they will not even give the

related services (wll sometimes, if you are willing to bring them into a site).

Again, amanda has not suffered at all from not attending- she has a friend her

age who does go every summer. Its very individual- but thats what's worked

for us.