Guest guest Posted August 31, 2000 Report Share Posted August 31, 2000 In a message dated 8/31/00 9:28:46 AM Central Daylight Time, cdswartz@... writes: << good and refuses to use anything but Crest. >> Tell him that my husband was a test subject (unwillingly) of the Crest tests on the Army in the 60s. He lost all his teeth because his jaw bone disintegrated and could no longer hold them in. Before he entered the army he had perfect teeth, literally. After they got done with him (they also gave him several unnecessary mercury fillings just for the thrill), his teeth looked like a war zone. Yes, the immediate effect of fluoride is to seemingly strengthen the teeth. However, the long-term effect has been proven time and again in Europe and elsewhere that as it accumulates, it breaks down the bone. In the test my husband was in, they raised the level of fluoride in the toothpaste until the subjects' gums bled (my dh's bled for well over 2 months), then dropped the amount until they stopped bleeding, and that's how they arrived at the " safe " amount to add to the toothpaste. This is NOT a story, we lived it. In addition, in my family, genetically, we are adversely affected by fluoride - it reaks all sorts of havoc on us. So, ask your husband if, risk-wise, he knows he's on the top side... Carol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2000 Report Share Posted August 31, 2000 In a message dated 8/31/00 9:58:34 AM Central Daylight Time, 1levy1@... writes: << How often do kids swallow that stuff instead of spitting it out?>> Someone could probably give you specifics, but several children have died in this manner. Hence the warning. <<By the way, at what age do kids generally start using toothpaste (I'm talking about a fluoride-free variety, not Crest or pink sparkly stuff)? >> ASAP in order to get them used to it. They're gonna eat it to start with anyway, can't stop that. But they need to get used to brushing and spitting. My 3yo does pretty good, but sometimes he swallows, sometimes he just eats the toothpaste for a thrill, sometimes he brushes his ear to get my goat... The ticket is practice and making it a routine, so that when it gets forgotten, it feels wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2000 Report Share Posted August 31, 2000 The reason it is so important to spit out the toothpaste instead of swallowing it is.....the abrasives can cause colin cancer. Annette -----Original Message-----From: Levy [mailto:1levy1@...] The warning on it said that if you swallow more toothpaste than you normally wouldbrushing your teeth (I guess if you swallow instead of spitting it out), consulta doctor! Holy smokes! How often do kids swallow that stuff instead ofspitting it out? Sure doesn't sound like something I want to be putting in mymouth! By the way, at what age do kids generally start using toothpaste (I'mtalking about a fluoride-free variety, not Crest or pink sparkly stuff)? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2000 Report Share Posted August 31, 2000 OOOooooohhh! I am so sorry for your husband! What an awful story. I just checked with the water filter guy at the farmers market and asked him if flouride was on the list of things his filter removed. He said something about the filter not being " approved " (I got hopeful!) and said that it does remove some, but not all. He said that the only way to remove the flouride is to do the reverse osmosis. So I guess that answers the earlier question if R.O. would do it! He then went on to say that R.O. also removed all of the good minerals and wasn't good for long term. I would think that it would be easy to replace the minerals in your diet and keep the flouride completely out. Katrina >From: cpeter8743@... >Reply-Vaccinationsegroups >Vaccinationsegroups >Subject: Re: Re:Tom's/Fluoride >Date: Thu, 31 Aug 2000 12:57:56 EDT > >In a message dated 8/31/00 9:28:46 AM Central Daylight Time, >cdswartz@... writes: > ><< good and refuses to use anything but Crest. >> > >Tell him that my husband was a test subject (unwillingly) of the Crest >tests >on the Army in the 60s. He lost all his teeth because his jaw bone >disintegrated and could no longer hold them in. Before he entered the army >he had perfect teeth, literally. After they got done with him (they also >gave him several unnecessary mercury fillings just for the thrill), his >teeth >looked like a war zone. Yes, the immediate effect of fluoride is to >seemingly strengthen the teeth. However, the long-term effect has been >proven time and again in Europe and elsewhere that as it accumulates, it >breaks down the bone. In the test my husband was in, they raised the level >of fluoride in the toothpaste until the subjects' gums bled (my dh's bled >for >well over 2 months), then dropped the amount until they stopped bleeding, >and >that's how they arrived at the " safe " amount to add to the toothpaste. >This >is NOT a story, we lived it. In addition, in my family, genetically, we >are >adversely affected by fluoride - it reaks all sorts of havoc on us. So, >ask >your husband if, risk-wise, he knows he's on the top side... > >Carol _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2000 Report Share Posted August 31, 2000 cpeter8743@... wrote: > > In a message dated 8/31/00 9:58:34 AM Central Daylight Time, > 1levy1@... writes: > > << How often do kids swallow that stuff instead of > spitting it out?>> > > Someone could probably give you specifics, but several children have died in > this manner. Hence the warning. > > <<By the way, at what age do kids generally start using toothpaste (I'm > talking about a fluoride-free variety, not Crest or pink sparkly stuff)? >> > ASAP in order to get them used to it. They're gonna eat it to start with > anyway, can't stop that. But they need to get used to brushing and spitting. But my daughter is only 15 months. I don't think she'd know how to spit yet (at least not on command!) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2000 Report Share Posted September 1, 2000 My just-turned-2yr old is already an expert teeth brusher - as many times a day as I'll let him. We started giving him a toothbrush in the tub as soon as he had a tooth. He uses Weleda tooth gel now - probably has been for about a year now - he still eats it sometimes.... S. > > << How often do kids swallow that stuff instead of > spitting it out?>> > > Someone could probably give you specifics, but several children have died in > this manner. Hence the warning. > > <<By the way, at what age do kids generally start using toothpaste (I'm > talking about a fluoride-free variety, not Crest or pink sparkly stuff)? >> > ASAP in order to get them used to it. They're gonna eat it to start with > anyway, can't stop that. But they need to get used to brushing and spitting. > My 3yo does pretty good, but sometimes he swallows, sometimes he just eats > the toothpaste for a thrill, sometimes he brushes his ear to get my goat... > The ticket is practice and making it a routine, so that when it gets > forgotten, it feels wrong. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Having power over yourself is an inoculation against the power of others. - J. Ehrlich The reason doctors are so dangerous is that they believe in what they're doing. - S. Mendelsohn ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2000 Report Share Posted September 1, 2000 > > > But my daughter is only 15 months. I don't think she'd know how to spit yet (at > least not on command!) > > > You'd be surprised! Just demonstrate a few times, brush your teeth with her. S. -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Having power over yourself is an inoculation against the power of others. - J. Ehrlich The reason doctors are so dangerous is that they believe in what they're doing. - S. Mendelsohn ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2000 Report Share Posted September 3, 2000 Shelby wrote: > > > > > > > But my daughter is only 15 months. I don't think she'd know how to spit yet (at > > least not on command!) > > > > > > > You'd be surprised! Just demonstrate a few times, brush your teeth with her. She can't even stand on her own yet! She just learned to crawl this week! We do give her a toothbrush, though, after every meal and before bed. She usually loves to do it herself! I guess I'll hold off on the toothpaste until she can stand on a stool and spit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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