Re: OT milk bad for babies

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That was very interesting. Thank you for al the information. Great

question. Now my question is ... when you are weaning your baby from breast

milk -- what are your suggestions?

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gdgw@... wrote:

>

> That was very interesting. Thank you for al the information. Great

> question. Now my question is ... when you are weaning your baby from breast

> milk -- what are your suggestions?

My daughter drinks rice milk, and gets protein, fats and calcium (which she

would be getting from cow milk) from other, healthier sources.

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In a message dated 9/2/00 1:36:06 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

rugerguru@... writes:

<<

I've got a question... we're thinking of going

no-milk, and I was wondering what you all have heard

about " Rice Dream " . >>

Have not heard anything negative.It is sweet though.Carob rice is good. The

autism book I am reading has a simple recipe if you want it.Also there is

some type of potato drink called Darifree.Don't know the nutritional content

of that though.

In blender 1 cup brown rice(cooked) and 4c water.When smooth add 1/4 tsp salt

and 1tsp vanilla extract or sugar may be added for flavor.Let sit for 1 hour

then pour through sieve.Put in fridge and shake before using.Use sweet brown

rice for extra sweetness(never saw this at my hfs)

sara

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In a message dated 9/2/00 4:36:05 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

rugerguru@... writes:

<< Rice Dream " . >>

We use rice dream here. It's actually very good. The original is my one year

old's favorite kind. I like the vanilla (good in cereal) and the chocolate is

good, but too chocolaty, better if you mix it with van. or original. We also

always get the enriched, as there are two kinds. Don't get it in a regular

grocery store. Here is is 50 cents more there. We got if for a while inthe

health food store, alittle cheaper but the cheapest is through an organic

food buying group I found, it's 21.00 a case.

IT takes some getting used to as it is not " milk " but you eventually will.

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In a message dated 9/2/00 4:35:17 PM Pacific Daylight Time,

rugerguru@... writes:

<< What

substitues are out there for cheese that are more

healthy? We use a lot of cheese here. Thanks for the

ideas.

>>

Most of the store alternatives have casien(sp) or rennet.I just took a book

back to the library called nutritional yeast recipes,and it had 6-8 recipes

just for cheese.Better yet try the un-cheese cookbook.

All I remember about cheese is that the contaminants are more

concentrated,and something about pus cells.

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I love Rice Dream. I can't stand cow's milk or soy milk at all, but I love

Rice Dream. Having inadvertently gotten my breast milk on my hand and

licked it off without thinking I must say Vanilla Rice Dream does taste a

lot like breastmilk. (But then I think Cantaloupe juice does as well and

have been told I am insane for thinking that...)

~

and since 6/5/98

and Ani since 2/15/00

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* From: SamHou1@... [mailto:SamHou1@...]

* I heard (on ParentsPlace.com, actually) that Vanilla Rice Dream

* tastes like mother's milk.

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christina,

hi, i tried the soy and rice milks and i did not like soymilk, i found rice

dreams to be ok, but what i really like and we are now drinking/using in

cereal/or as we would any milk, is almond milk--it's very yummy and my 6 year

old loves it!!

brigit

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Hhhmmm...So *THAT'S* why my family likes it so much! My children really like

the rice dream brand. It has a very mild taste. We use the soy milk to cook

with and prefer the rice milk cold, but I have used it warmed and it works

well. It's great heated up for hot cocoa (you can use carob but we like a

treat of chocolate sometimes). Most varieties now make a " regular " and an

" plus " version that has a number of added nutrients. The kids also really

like the vanilla flavour but the carob has not gone over so well.

Good luck. We have tried probably every brand out there and have found very

few that we didn't care for.

Katrina

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>I love Rice Dream. I can't stand cow's milk or soy milk at all, but I love

>Rice Dream. Having inadvertently gotten my breast milk on my hand and

>licked it off without thinking I must say Vanilla Rice Dream does taste a

>lot like breastmilk. (But then I think Cantaloupe juice does as well and

>have been told I am insane for thinking that...)

>

>~

>and since 6/5/98

>and Ani since 2/15/00

>http://www.hejduk.net

>HJ Gifts http://www.hjgifts.com

>

> * -----Original Message-----

> * From: SamHou1@... [mailto:SamHou1@...]

> * I heard (on ParentsPlace.com, actually) that Vanilla Rice Dream

> * tastes like mother's milk.

>

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Thanks everyone for your input on the Rice Dream!

--- teresav26@... wrote:

> In a message dated 9/2/00 4:36:05 PM Eastern

> Daylight Time,

> rugerguru@... writes:

>

>

> << Rice Dream " . >>

>

> We use rice dream here. It's actually very good.

> The original is my one year

> old's favorite kind. I like the vanilla (good in

> cereal) and the chocolate is

> good, but too chocolaty, better if you mix it with

> van. or original. We also

> always get the enriched, as there are two kinds.

> Don't get it in a regular

> grocery store. Here is is 50 cents more there. We

> got if for a while inthe

> health food store, alittle cheaper but the cheapest

> is through an organic

> food buying group I found, it's 21.00 a case.

> IT takes some getting used to as it is not " milk "

> but you eventually will.

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi,

I have another question... what about cheese? Is it

as bad as milk? My guess is that it would be. What

substitues are out there for cheese that are more

healthy? We use a lot of cheese here. Thanks for the

ideas.

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[Guest guest]

We've used Rice Dream - My husband and daughters liked it, I was okay

with it. Now we drink a multi grain milk from Pacific Foods - it is

fairly sweet, thicker than rice milk, but not as thick as soy milk (we

drank edensoy extra for years until I began investigating the concept of

" enriched " or " supplemental " : vitamins/minerals which do not originate

from whole foods; ed.extra is enriched with calcium, Vit.D, B12.) One

more question/comment about alternative to cow milk drinks: I recently

came across a blend of roasted roots (dandelion, chicory, burdock, maybe

a few others) in the form of a " coffee alternative " - mix with hot water

or soy/rice milk, cinnamon, etc. It was delicious. After drinking it,

though, I began to wonder about the safety of drinking it while

pregnant/nursing - can find no contraindications for taking the roots

medicinally in pregnancy, but I was curious if any of you had experience

with this funky drink :-) namaste, gretchen

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,

We use Rice Dream Vanilla Enriched. It tastes good. The

only "problem" is that it contains safflower oil instead of canola etc.

- Jax, FL

I've got a question... we're thinking of going

no-milk, and I was wondering what you all have heard

about "Rice Dream".

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that's good. they are finding that canola is not that healthy. rhoda

Re: Re: OT milk bad for babies

, We use Rice Dream Vanilla Enriched. It tastes good. The only " problem " is that it contains safflower oil instead of canola etc. - Jax, FL I've got a question... we're thinking of going no-milk, and I was wondering what you all have heard about " Rice Dream " . __________________________________________________

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,

I just tried tonight some "Rice Slice" Mozzarella style cheese made

by Soyco tonight. It has no dairy or soy in it. It comes in

slices like American cheese does. It tasted great! I was very

surprised. It does have that "plasticy" look like American cheese

though. Another alternative is goats milk cheese. Most people

have eaten Feta before. It's great on roasted red bell peppers!

- Jax, FL

Hi,

I have another question... what about cheese? Is it

as bad as milk? My guess is that it would be. What

substitues are out there for cheese that are more

healthy? We use a lot of cheese here. Thanks for the

ideas.

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[Guest guest]

>We use Rice Dream Vanilla Enriched. It tastes good. The only " problem "

>is that it contains safflower oil instead of canola etc.

The Book I have says that safflower is one of the better oils. Why is this

a problem?

Kim

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I use both the Rice and Soy Dream (rice for my son) - both in the vanilla

enriched. I also really like Silk from White Wave, it seems to be much more

fresh. I have to say the only brand I don't like is Eden Soy - tastes like

cardboard.

S.

S wrote:

>

> Thanks everyone for your input on the Rice Dream!

>

> --- teresav26@... wrote:

> > In a message dated 9/2/00 4:36:05 PM Eastern

> > Daylight Time,

> > rugerguru@... writes:

> >

> >

> > << Rice Dream " . >>

> >

> > We use rice dream here. It's actually very good.

> > The original is my one year

> > old's favorite kind. I like the vanilla (good in

> > cereal) and the chocolate is

> > good, but too chocolaty, better if you mix it with

> > van. or original. We also

> > always get the enriched, as there are two kinds.

> > Don't get it in a regular

> > grocery store. Here is is 50 cents more there. We

> > got if for a while inthe

> > health food store, alittle cheaper but the cheapest

> > is through an organic

> > food buying group I found, it's 21.00 a case.

> > IT takes some getting used to as it is not " milk "

> > but you eventually will.

> >

> >

>

> __________________________________________________

>

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:

Sorry to rain on your parade....but I'll bet that Rice Slice Mozerella DOES

have Dairy in it....scan the label for " Casein " or " Sodium Caseinate "

These are two forms of the major protein found in dairy products.

Vegan Rella

Soymage

Veggie Kass (by the makers of Soyakass -- all their other products contain

Casein)

Are the only three that I am aware of which are truly Dairy Free.

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JoAnne,

You are absolutely right! It does contain casein. I just

got it yesterday and did not double check for casein. Thank you for

bringing it to my attention. I should have known better... I worked

for the manufacturer/distributor of Soyakaas for 8 years! Oops :

)

Sorry guys!

- Jax, FL

:

Sorry to rain on your parade....but I'll bet that Rice Slice Mozerella

DOES have Dairy in it....scan the label for "Casein" or "Sodium Caseinate"

These are two forms of the major protein found in dairy products.

Vegan Rella

Soymage

Veggie Kass (by the makers of Soyakass -- all their other products

contain

Casein)

Are the only three that I am aware of which are truly Dairy Free.

JoAnn Farb

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I personally think Rice Dream is to sweet and don't really like the taste of

soy milk. But I recently found Edensoy Original in a half rice milk half soy

milk blend. I ;ike it better.

rebecca(SAHM Zia 4/4/00)

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Hey gang I have a question for you. Locally I have only

been able to find Rice Dream Vanilla flavor in a

non-organic rice version. The plain Rice Dream lists

organic rice, but the Vanilla flavor doesn't. Anyone out

there found Vanilla w/organic rice? Just wondering. TIA.

(in Arkansas)

SAHM to Lucy (May '99)

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[Guest guest]

Most of those milk substitutes are too sweet for me,

too, but recently I've tried Pacific brand oat milk,

and really like it. It's made with only oats, water

and sea salt, nothing else. Now if I could only find

an organic version.

Aubin

--- KisMarti@... wrote:

> I personally think Rice Dream is to sweet and don't

> really like the taste of

> soy milk. But I recently found Edensoy Original in a

> half rice milk half soy

> milk blend. I ;ike it better.

> rebecca(SAHM Zia 4/4/00)

>

>

>

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S wrote:

>

> I've got a question... we're thinking of going

> no-milk, and I was wondering what you all have heard

> about " Rice Dream " .

Very tasty. My 15 month old loves it too. It comes in a few different

flavours, but we drink the enriched original.

>

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--- beebemcel@... wrote:

> christina,

> hi, i tried the soy and rice milks and i did not

> like soymilk, i found rice

> dreams to be ok, but what i really like and we are

> now drinking/using in

> cereal/or as we would any milk, is almond milk--it's

> very yummy and my 6 year

> old loves it!!

> brigit

>

Hmmmm...almond milk. I might have to try that. Can you

get it at a regular grocery store?

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In a message dated 9/5/00 8:18:57 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

rugerguru@... writes:

<< Hmmmm...almond milk. I might have to try that. Can you

get it at a regular grocery store?

>>

yes, almond breeze is a delicious brand--comes in original, vanilla and

chocolate-very, very yummy (but pricey). here, in albany i can get it at

grand union and a t hannaford grocery stores (but it's about $2.75-$2.99 a

carton) and unfortunately it is not made with organic almonds--so we are

going to start buying our almonds in bulk and making our own. nothing else

added to it that way either )

brigit