Guest guest Posted January 4, 2001 Report Share Posted January 4, 2001 Estrogen IS a hormone, Stuck. As for links with birth control hormones, you might want to start here... http://www.candida-society.org.uk/ Sorry to hear you're having such a miserable time in that department. People here were talking about the sponge with spermicide a little while back, I think - might be a possibility? Ann ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.willow-web.net Quality Web Design ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2001 Report Share Posted January 4, 2001 Dear Stuck, A good solution to your problem would be to just have the children. As a new mother of one adorable son, I highly recommend the " natural approach. " But you may also try the rhythm method, along with reading your temperature, or even buying ovulation tests. Synchronizing your period with the moon phases is also helpful. Ideally, a woman should ovulate with the full moon, and get her period around the new moon. You can look this stuff up on the web. If you are in the city or have unnatural lighting coming in through your windows at night, this may throw things off....you may have to close your curtains during the new moon, and open them for the full moon. Also, plenty of readily-available herbs work as contraceptives, along with eating peas, if you can handle them (they have a strong contraceptive property.) Regarding the herbal approach, you can learn about it through the book Herbal for the Childbearing Year, by Weed. Natural approaches may not be quite as fail-safe as heavy pharmaceuticals, but they are far less likely to induce cancer (as it's been shown that birth control pills cause breast cancer- Read Epstein's book on Cancer Prevention to learn more about it) or to harm you and your future children in other ways. And what the natural approach lacks in absolute predictablility, it makes up for in comfort, a sense of adventure, and FAR less stress on your body, your mind, and possibly even your marriage. Good health to you! Marabel ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2001 Report Share Posted January 4, 2001 No, we aren't rteady for a child right now, menatlly, financiallya nd have no room for an over night guest let alonea child. it's just as they say " not in the cards " i don't buy into that whole moom therory though. I have it now and there's not a full or new moon. i will look intothe herbal thing you speak of though. ------- It's not that life's too short, it's that we're dead so long. Re: Birth control pills Dear Stuck, A good solution to your problem would be to just have the children. As a new mother of one adorable son, I highly recommend the " natural approach. " But you may also try the rhythm method, along with reading your temperature, or even buying ovulation tests. Synchronizing your period with the moon phases is also helpful. Ideally, a woman should ovulate with the full moon, and get her period around the new moon. You can look this stuff up on the web. If you are in the city or have unnatural lighting coming in through your windows at night, this may throw things off....you may have to close your curtains during the new moon, and open them for the full moon. Also, plenty of readily-available herbs work as contraceptives, along with eating peas, if you can handle them (they have a strong contraceptive property.) Regarding the herbal approach, you can learn about it through the book Herbal for the Childbearing Year, by Weed. Natural approaches may not be quite as fail-safe as heavy pharmaceuticals, but they are far less likely to induce cancer (as it's been shown that birth control pills cause breast cancer- Read Epstein's book on Cancer Prevention to learn more about it) or to harm you and your future children in other ways. And what the natural approach lacks in absolute predictablility, it makes up for in comfort, a sense of adventure, and FAR less stress on your body, your mind, and possibly even your marriage. Good health to you! Marabel ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. Send blank message to candidiasis-unsubscribeonelist if you want to UNSUBSCRIBE ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2001 Report Share Posted January 4, 2001 so the book is to help in preventing child birth? ------- It's not that life's too short, it's that we're dead so long. Re: Birth control pills Dear Stuck, A good solution to your problem would be to just have the children. As a new mother of one adorable son, I highly recommend the " natural approach. " But you may also try the rhythm method, along with reading your temperature, or even buying ovulation tests. Synchronizing your period with the moon phases is also helpful. Ideally, a woman should ovulate with the full moon, and get her period around the new moon. You can look this stuff up on the web. If you are in the city or have unnatural lighting coming in through your windows at night, this may throw things off....you may have to close your curtains during the new moon, and open them for the full moon. Also, plenty of readily-available herbs work as contraceptives, along with eating peas, if you can handle them (they have a strong contraceptive property.) Regarding the herbal approach, you can learn about it through the book Herbal for the Childbearing Year, by Weed. Natural approaches may not be quite as fail-safe as heavy pharmaceuticals, but they are far less likely to induce cancer (as it's been shown that birth control pills cause breast cancer- Read Epstein's book on Cancer Prevention to learn more about it) or to harm you and your future children in other ways. And what the natural approach lacks in absolute predictablility, it makes up for in comfort, a sense of adventure, and FAR less stress on your body, your mind, and possibly even your marriage. Good health to you! Marabel ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. Send blank message to candidiasis-unsubscribeonelist if you want to UNSUBSCRIBE ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2001 Report Share Posted January 4, 2001 Art doesn'tthink thay is wortha try as the diaphram hurt to put in and he thinks sponge will be as well, and it's so messy to clean up and all yick. ------- It's not that life's too short, it's that we're dead so long. Re: Birth control pills Estrogen IS a hormone, Stuck. As for links with birth control hormones, you might want to start here... http://www.candida-society.org.uk/ Sorry to hear you're having such a miserable time in that department. People here were talking about the sponge with spermicide a little while back, I think - might be a possibility? Ann ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.willow-web.net Quality Web Design ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Send blank message to candidiasis-unsubscribeonelist if you want to UNSUBSCRIBE ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2001 Report Share Posted January 4, 2001 Hi Stuck, The moon theory only works after you've made it work, and there are things you can do to become synchronized with the moon phases (unless you have insurmountable menstrual glitches.) Looking at the moon alot (sounds freaky, but it's true) and regulating the light in your bedroom are just 2 things. If it could work for you, you'd simply have more confidence in your birth control because you'd know more assuredly when you are ovulating. The book I mentioned is called Herbal for the Childbearing Year, but it deals alot with herbal contraception. There are herbs that promote temporary sterility, like stonessed root, jack-in-the-pulpit root, and thistles (some of these are very powerful so you would have to first research exactly how to use them); and there are " implantation preventers " which make the uterus unsuitable for a fertilzed egg to grow in. Carrot seed, Rutin, and smartweed leaves all prevent implantation. It may be very worthwhile for you to look into these options, if having a baby is not possible for you right now. I think there are also ecbolics listed (herbs that cause abortions) but I am against abortion, so of course I hope you never are in that position. Sincerely, Marabel ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2001 Report Share Posted January 4, 2001 On 4 Jan 2001, at 11:36, Stuck wrote: > so the book is to help in preventing child birth? Yup - yo uread it in bed, instead of... (sorry!) Ann ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.willow-web.net Quality Web Design ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2001 Report Share Posted January 4, 2001 I say you make the man take the precautions, don't they have a pill for them now? Or a reversable vasectomy? snip snip! It's abhorrent for someone to expect a sick female to make it worse by taking chemicals on top of being sick. I'm allergic to birth control, I throw up everyday on em. So it's condoms or abstinence. And Stuck, I'm tiny (95 pounds and a little over 5'2) I know of the pain you speak, if I may be so bold as to suggest that it's better when being on top Nastasya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2001 Report Share Posted January 4, 2001 Actually, if she puts the book between her knees and holds it there when someone is getting amourous, that will work too > > so the book is to help in preventing child birth? > > Yup - yo uread it in bed, instead of... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2001 Report Share Posted January 4, 2001 LOL yeah rigght!!! oh well. ------- It's not that life's too short, it's that we're dead so long. Re: Birth control pills On 4 Jan 2001, at 11:36, Stuck wrote: > so the book is to help in preventing child birth? Yup - yo uread it in bed, instead of... (sorry!) Ann ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ http://www.willow-web.net Quality Web Design ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Send blank message to candidiasis-unsubscribeonelist if you want to UNSUBSCRIBE ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2001 Report Share Posted January 4, 2001 Iam completey against abortion as well. But herbs for thats ound pretty risky to me. ------- It's not that life's too short, it's that we're dead so long. Re: Birth control pills Hi Stuck, The moon theory only works after you've made it work, and there are things you can do to become synchronized with the moon phases (unless you have insurmountable menstrual glitches.) Looking at the moon alot (sounds freaky, but it's true) and regulating the light in your bedroom are just 2 things. If it could work for you, you'd simply have more confidence in your birth control because you'd know more assuredly when you are ovulating. The book I mentioned is called Herbal for the Childbearing Year, but it deals alot with herbal contraception. There are herbs that promote temporary sterility, like stonessed root, jack-in-the-pulpit root, and thistles (some of these are very powerful so you would have to first research exactly how to use them); and there are " implantation preventers " which make the uterus unsuitable for a fertilzed egg to grow in. Carrot seed, Rutin, and smartweed leaves all prevent implantation. It may be very worthwhile for you to look into these options, if having a baby is not possible for you right now. I think there are also ecbolics listed (herbs that cause abortions) but I am against abortion, so of course I hope you never are in that position. Sincerely, Marabel ________________________________________________________________ GET INTERNET ACCESS FROM JUNO! Juno offers FREE or PREMIUM Internet access for less! Join Juno today! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj. Send blank message to candidiasis-unsubscribeonelist if you want to UNSUBSCRIBE ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2001 Report Share Posted January 4, 2001 Thanks guys you are a real help! LOL. with friends like you I will need babysitters. LOL ------- It's not that life's too short, it's that we're dead so long. Re: Birth control pills Actually, if she puts the book between her knees and holds it there when someone is getting amourous, that will work too > > so the book is to help in preventing child birth? > > Yup - yo uread it in bed, instead of... Send blank message to candidiasis-unsubscribeonelist if you want to UNSUBSCRIBE ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2001 Report Share Posted January 4, 2001 well if we are being bold that is ussually the only way we do things, but aftre a year of that iam bord out of my mind iwth it. jump on scream jump off to the toilet take the cranberry pills and go to sleep. ooh oh NOT fun. I gess that might have been too much info sorry. I honestly don't have the nergy for more than that,a nd you are right any other postion is harder to hide the pain. not sure why that is though. S ------- It's not that life's too short, it's that we're dead so long. Re: Birth control pills I say you make the man take the precautions, don't they have a pill for them now? Or a reversable vasectomy? snip snip! It's abhorrent for someone to expect a sick female to make it worse by taking chemicals on top of being sick. I'm allergic to birth control, I throw up everyday on em. So it's condoms or abstinence. And Stuck, I'm tiny (95 pounds and a little over 5'2) I know of the pain you speak, if I may be so bold as to suggest that it's better when being on top Nastasya Send blank message to candidiasis-unsubscribeonelist if you want to UNSUBSCRIBE ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2001 Report Share Posted January 4, 2001 We don't want togo that drastoc where we would like to start trying early next year. we'll see what happens. we may have to wait till 2003 weird. ------- It's not that life's too short, it's that we're dead so long. Re: Birth control pills I say you make the man take the precautions, don't they have a pill for them now? Or a reversable vasectomy? snip snip! It's abhorrent for someone to expect a sick female to make it worse by taking chemicals on top of being sick. I'm allergic to birth control, I throw up everyday on em. So it's condoms or abstinence. And Stuck, I'm tiny (95 pounds and a little over 5'2) I know of the pain you speak, if I may be so bold as to suggest that it's better when being on top Nastasya Send blank message to candidiasis-unsubscribeonelist if you want to UNSUBSCRIBE ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 10, 2001 Report Share Posted January 10, 2001 In a message dated 1/4/01 11:04:08 AM Central Standard Time, globe_amaranth@... writes: The moon theory only works after you've made it work, and there are things you can do to become synchronized with the moon phases (unless you have insurmountable menstrual glitches.) Looking at the moon alot (sounds freaky, but it's true) and regulating the light in your bedroom are just 2 things. If it could work for you, you'd simply have more confidence in your birth control because you'd know more assuredly when you are ovulating. This is true and the moon theory does work, although it is different for everyone. You simply have to track your natural periods (ie. not influenced by hormones/birth control) over a time to watch the pattern. I always ovulate with the full moon and menstruate within 2 days of the new moon except in winter when my body switches to the opposite (ovulate at the new moon, etc.). This means I have two weeks out of the year when I am either early or late (in early spring and late fall). ~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2001 Report Share Posted May 30, 2001 I think that you can probably kill *some* candida while taking the pill, but then the pill is killing your *good* bacteria--and that's no good... > Is it possible to kill candida while taking birth control pills? > > Kista Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2001 Report Share Posted November 18, 2001 The doctor wouldn't let Jodi take the pill either. Genny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2002 Report Share Posted April 1, 2002 LOL... pretty good one. But just a note: I've been pregnant 3 times, and experienced almost complete disappearance of my psoriasis, knees, legs, elbows, arm, wrists, fingers, back, scalp, ears... each time my ob was pleased, but had no idea why. Then about the time I gave birth it started creeping back. no other " natural remissions " until MTX... only my scalp and ears and one elbow remain stubborn now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 1, 2002 Report Share Posted April 1, 2002 Hello, It has recently become well known that auto-immune illness go into remission during pregnancy and flare up after birth and through breast feeding periods. I'm wondering for you do the flares get worse after each pregnancy? Don't you worry about your children inheriting auto-immune diseases from you? Thanks, meghan > LOL... pretty good one. But just a note: I've been pregnant 3 times, and > experienced almost complete disappearance of my psoriasis, knees, legs, > elbows, arm, wrists, fingers, back, scalp, ears... each time my ob was > pleased, but had no idea why. Then about the time I gave birth it started > creeping back. no other " natural remissions " until MTX... only my scalp and > ears and one elbow remain stubborn now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2002 Report Share Posted April 2, 2002 > > I'm wondering for you do the flares get worse after each pregnancy? > Don't you worry about your children inheriting auto-immune diseases > from you? > > Meghan, In my experience,I experienced complete remission while pregnant and did get flares fairly quickly after birth. Yes, the flare after my second was worse than after my first. It is exacerbated by the inability to take meds while nursing - however, I found it was worth it. I have lived an incredibly full life already, and I am only 33. I have many many years to enjoy life, friends and my family. I would never decide to not have children just because they may inherit some illness from me. There are many things in life that happen that we cannot predict, but we still must live. In this particular case, there is more evidence (that I have read), that PA descends through the father's line. It still would not have changed my decision though. Carin > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 2, 2002 Report Share Posted April 2, 2002 There was no P to be found till after I gave birth.I seemed the healthiest and happiest pregent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2003 Report Share Posted April 14, 2003 , I think the BCP would be a good start, I take Desogen it's the lowest form I believe! I can't take ortho, makes my breast feel like they're going to explode the whole time I'm on it...TMI (too much info) I'm sure...lol But I also have PCOS (polycystic ovarian syndrom). Hope that is helpful! PENNY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2003 Report Share Posted April 14, 2003 I think I'm a weird one, I lost weight...lol PENNY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2003 Report Share Posted April 14, 2003 Did you gain any weight when you started taking the BC? My clothes aren't fitting as it is): suavgrl73@... wrote:, I think the BCP would be a good start, I take Desogen it's the lowest form I believe! I can't take ortho, makes my breast feel like they're going to explode the whole time I'm on it...TMI (too much info) I'm sure...lol But I also have PCOS (polycystic ovarian syndrom). Hope that is helpful! PENNY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2006 Report Share Posted January 22, 2006 I was on Ortho-tri-cyclin, oral pills. It was what I was useing before the cml and what I've been put back on now. No ones ever batted an eyelash and Dr.Hendrey even wroe a refill for me once a few years ago if memory serves. *hugs* EmyG > > Emy, > If I may ask, what sort of birth control were you on that you hadn't got refilled? I was told I could not use birth control pills because of the gleevec. > :{ > > > View our family's photos at webshots > > Our pet's pages: > www.catster.com/?219163 www.dogster.com/?215653 www.dogster.com/? 225974 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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