Guest guest Posted November 16, 2000 Report Share Posted November 16, 2000 It is a Dr formula of six herbs for Prenatal use. The ingredients are Black Cohosh, Blue Cohosh, Red Raspberry Leaves Blessed Thistle, Pennyroyal and False Unicorn. Dr. was the only Herbalist allowed to practice in the Military during WWII. He has long past away but his grandson keeps his formulas alive and marketed. His instruction were to take 6 capsules daily from the 34th week of pregnancy until delivery. As a midwife and during one of my own pregnancies I used this herb but it was recommended that one be taken daily, adding one extra each day until I was taking 12 per day. To continue this until giving birth and then back down eliminating one each day for 11 days (down to none). The herbs aid the uterus to tone, the cervix to dilate without any difficulty, allows the perineum to stretch and then tone back after the birth, to relieve the placenta easily and completely, to prevent post-partum depression, to control excessive bleeding. It aids the uterus to contract often without the noticed of early labor. The birth moves along nicely and there is a quicker recovery time. Baby slides out without stress to mother or baby. Little trauma is seen in both; no bleeding in either. Even large head and shoulders pop out without a stress or strain. The labor is smooth and fast enough to get the job done, but slow enough to complete the task without " skid marks " (tearing and bleeding). Contractions are normalized, productive, efficient and timely. I was satisfied with how it worked but was still somewhat uneasy about the high doses of herbal which included the Pennyroyal. Since I work with an alchemist who produces many herbal spagyrics that are safe, effective, needing only a 2 to 3 drops of the tincture form in comparison to 15 ot 30 drops per dose of other tinctures or several capsules of 475 mg of dry herbs, I asked him to manufacture this product into a spagyric herbal formulation. What I found was that my patients who were using a homeopathic remedy for so me other problem such as edema, pre-eclampsia, UTI, gestational diabetes, bleeding (threatened miscarriage) and such could use this formula in somewhat the same manner. I suggested one drop daily from the 34th week of gestation adding one drop until there were 12 drops taken daily until birth. Then doing the same as the dry capsules, subtracting one drop each day until on day 12 of the baby age the mother was no longer using any of the formula. This method has worked fabulously for several of my clients. Even those who have had problems in the past are responding well to this formula. If anyone is interested in it you can purchase it directly for $12 per ounce retail at ancientfutures@... . Ancient Futures is a company solely owned by a wonderful Ph.D. in environmental chemistry who is interested in aiding folks to be healthy. He is willing to sell the product to practitioners and healthfood stores for $8 per bottle if purchasing orders of $250 or more. He has several other herbal spagyrics that may interest many of you who are savvy to herbs. May I suggest that you contact him for a list of those herbs. He is very interesting and willing to work with you if you wish large orders of various herbals. Spagyrics are very wonderful if you wish to take herbs. The process extracts the tinted material (color of the herbal) at a room temperature, therefore, maintaining the enzyme quality of the herb. The body of the herb that was tinted is removed and dried out at room temperature also. Then this dried material is slowly burned in a Muffle Furnace were it is brought down to a fine white powder of the minerals. These minerals are then reintroduced into the tincture. The soluble salts (minerals and salts/vitamins that can be dissolved in the liquid) are mixed into this tincture over a period of time. The non-soluble material that seems like a mud that is called the " caput mortum " is strained out. What is left is the vitamins and minerals in the tinted liquid that is about 45% grain alcohol and 55% distilled water. These spagyrics are the most efficient manner to take vitamins and minerals that address the body on the cellular level that it understands completely. There is very little or no waste of this herbal to the system. Very little (if no) side effects at all. The reason that this makes the herbal better is because many herbals are only effective when eaten raw. Often the process of making it into a tea (were the body of the herbal is heated and then discarded) or if taken in dry form that has no life left in it, there is a need of the uses of large quantities of water to break it down in order to allow the acceptance of the medicinal material into the cellular walls or the organs. This " spagyric " form of the herbal makes all of these processes available with great effectiveness, and the great difference is that only a few drops (2 to 5) are equal to 15 ot 30 drops of any other normally tinted herbal or 3 to 8 capsules of the dried material. To get to the question of what to do a 40 weeks to get those contractions going you will need a homeopathic remedy. May I suggest Caulophyllum 6c or 30c in distilled water succussed (shaken vigorously) between drops or sips as the dose. I suggest that you do this remedy every 20 to 30 minutes all day. If this remedy is going to work it will start the contractions up within a few hours. Hope I have been helpful. If anyone has any other questions, please feel free to ask. ----- Original Message ----- From: " Robin Carver " <GrnEye6879@...> > What exactly is PN6??? I've never heard of it? The only thing my midwife has > suggested for getting ready for labor was Evening Primrose Oil to soften my > cervix and maybe startin to take Black and Blue Cohosh starting at 40 weeks! > And 40 weeks is next week, and I'm thinking about slowly starting the > Cohoshes soon. Does anyone have any other suggestions for getting at least > some contractions going, besides sex, since that isn't working well either, > lol. > <3, > Robin > sah nursing AP mommy to Mae (12/08/1998) > and Chloe Madison (OR ??? Gage----EDD 11/22/2000) > also wife to Nate (since 04/18/1988) > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: " Chambers " <mommabiker@...> > > > > Mmmmmmmm..... My certified nurse midwife suggested my taking PN6 at the > > end of my first pregnancy. She was concerned since I didn't seem to know > > for sure whether I was having any contractions yet. As it was, I > > probably did, but I was so busy working full time up to the day before I > > went into labor and since I also have endometriosis and deal with pain on > > a daily basis, I've learned to ignore so much. I had no idea what a > > practice contraction was supposed to feel like in relation to anything > > and since I was so very aware of the baby shoving her feet into my lungs, > > I doubt I would've noticed much else. Sorry it took real labor to get > > my attention and slow me down. > > > > Anyway, back to the story. She wanted me to take PN6 about 3 weeks > > before I was due to help encourage contractions. But she also told me > > that some women go right into labor after a day of taking it. I didn't > > want to take a chance on that since I figured it would surely be my luck > > and was not remotely ready to have a baby 3-4 weeks early. And I felt > > she was overreacting a bit too and wasn't as comfortable with her very > > medical mindedness - in spite of being a midwife. At this particular > > place, you use a CNM in the hosptial, but they rotate you with each > > prenatal visit between two or three different midwives since whoever is > > on call when you go into labor is who'll be delivering your baby. So you > > get to know everyone. The one midwife I felt pretty comfortable with > > didn't seem worried about a thing and neither was I. So I waited until a > > couple days before I was due before I took any. Well, my water broke on > > my due date. Not to say I was really ready for the baby when it did > > come, because and I were hauling furniture to the consignment shop > > and getting his hair cut when my water broke getting in the truck - > > gushed everywhere in the worst way. At least we had already gotten the > > furniture unloaded and done with. > > > > So there's my story I guess. I don't know if I recommend it or not. I > > don't know if I went into labor exactly two days later due to taking it > > or not. I really thought I was going to be about a week late and first > > babies supposedly usually tend to go a little after due dates. All I > > know is that some women really respond to it and others can take it a > > while and it helps strengthen and prepare their uterus' for labor - > > later. I don't know. But surely don't take it before 4-6 weeks before > > you are due. It helps stimulate contractions (that's how it prepares the > > uterus) which also means it can cause miscarriage/abortion in earlier > > stages of pregnancy. > > > > Hope this helps. Perhaps one of our midwives on this list can shed far > > better light on PN6??? It doesn't even show up in some of my references. > > Unless there's another name for it. > > > > Jules in TX > > mommabiker@... > > > > > > On Wed, 15 Nov 2000 18:27:02 -0600 S Shepherd > > <jennifershepherd@...> writes: > > > Does anyone know about PN6 that you are suppose to take in the last 6 > > > weeks of pregnancy to prepare your body for labor? Did anyone use it? > > > Would you recommend it? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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