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> Date: Sun, 21 Nov 1999 23:09:38 EST

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> Subject: Re: List seems slow(Long)

>

> Hi everyone.

> I know I'm not very active, so I'm probably part of the problem, not

the

> solution, but I have noticed, as a lurker, sometime participant, that

the

> list is slow lately whereas the chat list is very active. It's

surprising, I

> think, since so many controversial and new ideas have been put forth

(eg. re:

> 7 days versus 3 days of minocin; rotating antibiotics; PCRs as now

more

> necessary than ever) and there seems to be less discussion than ever

since I

> joined. I don't know if everyone is busy, confused, doing well,

bored,

> depressed etc. I know I've been all of those things, not forgetting

ill,

> too! I know I'm not as active as I'd like to be. I am also someone

who does

> not like to speak unless she knows what she's talking about and I

always feel

> I should research for days before I post anything! I also wonder if

the

> split between the lists is part of the problem because I know the chat

list

> is so active!

> How does everyone feel about this? What can we do to make the

rheumatic list

,

IMO it's due to the split RA/APChat. When those who " chatted " were

chastened into going to the " Chat " list, a large amount of the emotional

warmth and support left too, not only with the " chatters " but also with

those who remained not wanting to be chastened for " cluttering " . The

list has become much more " clinical " since. Only time will tell if the

warmth will return in full. My understanding of the Chat list is that it

is rather void of " clinical " aid and support " relative to " the RA list,

perhaps the reverse is true as well.

Regards,

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Re: Lowek-- young children and meds

Medication can be a very helpful and sometimes necessary component in the

treatment of OCD, however, it is important to know your options. In a 1997

Journal of Clinical Psychiatry, the Expert Consensus Guidelines for OCD were

published. In that issue, the first line of defense for children with OCD is

cognitive behavior therapy. If you are not getting a response to CBT within 4-6

weeks, medication is then added. The key is finding a

qualified clinician to conduct the CBT. The OCF keeps a list of clinicians as

you probably know. If you go to a psychiatrist, you will get a prescription,

but this is not necessarily where you have to start.

Best of luck to you.

Tamar Chansky, Ph.D.

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Moria I tried a product called paragone. Is that the same product that you

are referring to? Thank You in advance.

Claude

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Hi everyone

It was really interesting to see what everyone is taking. Thanks for

the info everyone.

I missed all my doses yesterday. I was feeling kinda sick and couldn't

force down the grapefruit seed extract. Hopefully this cold will be over soon.

I read a few minutes ago that somebody else had cloudy urine. Is that

something to do with yeast, or just normal everyday stuff?

Well I am off have an amazing day

Oh and the red blisters on my face for those who asked start out like

pimples and in 1/2 hour turn into white puss like looking things and

then go red, and then dry up in a day. I was also told it was the

toxins leaving my body. Why

couldn't it do that through my ... I don't know left arm, or right right

leg, instead of my face. I can't even wear make-up to cover it up.

Oh well what can you do.

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Karma, Rashelle and eveyone,

I've been away from the list and exercise for about 2 months now.

I started a new job..made a career change and extremely different than what I

was doing. Unfortunately, I did not keep up with the life-lift or ww and

have gained back my weight.

Now that I am much more acclimated to the changes, it is time to concentrate

on my breathing and diet. I must say, I picked a great day to start reading

what I had missed.. Karma, what a wonderful story. I know what a great

feeling it is to give.

My husband and I always go to the local Mall and take names off of the

salavation army tree to purchase something for kids..this year he picked up 3

coats..for a 6 8 and 10 year old. can you imagine kids not having coats? I

can't.

so we had so much fun shopping. We ended up getting a hat and mittens also to

match. My only wish was to see their faces when they opened their gifts.

That was one of my suggestions to the salvation army volunteers who collected

the gifts..

So I know how good you felt.

I must go now and eat. However, it was a great story and I hope to stay in

touch with the newsgroup. Later when I have time, I'll fill you in on my

change in career.

ellen

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Hi Ellen,

It is so good to have you back. I have not been posting much myself since I lost my precious Dad the end of August, then I began a move out of state after that. I needed some time to heal and to take care of so many things associated with moving. I expect it will be a good two months more before I am fully back to having time to post much.

I am so happy that you are ready to get back to it. You will find that it will help you keep your stress under control as well as all the other wonderful benefits it will offer you.

Loved hearing the story about how you do the good work for the children in need. I feel a strong devotion to helping children in need and cannot begin to express the blessings it has placed into my life. It is a good thing for all of us to remember. "Every time you give a gift you get one", It builds your own feeling of self worth and then you are more able to accept the things you want for your own life." (Quote from Crystal the Magic Princess)"

Good luck with your new career. You deserve all the best!

Rashelle

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Re: Digest Number 527

Karma, Rashelle and eveyone,I've been away from the list and exercise for about 2 months now.I started a new job..made a career change and extremely different than what I was doing. Unfortunately, I did not keep up with the life-lift or ww and have gained back my weight.Now that I am much more acclimated to the changes, it is time to concentrate on my breathing and diet. I must say, I picked a great day to start reading what I had missed.. Karma, what a wonderful story. I know what a great feeling it is to give.My husband and I always go to the local Mall and take names off of the salavation army tree to purchase something for kids..this year he picked up 3 coats..for a 6 8 and 10 year old. can you imagine kids not having coats? I can't.so we had so much fun shopping. We ended up getting a hat and mittens also to match. My only wish was to see their faces when they opened their gifts. That was one of my suggestions to the salvation army volunteers who collected the gifts..So I know how good you felt. I must go now and eat. However, it was a great story and I hope to stay in touch with the newsgroup. Later when I have time, I'll fill you in on my change in career.ellen

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è thanks, JI, i guess this can worse in time? Right è now I am in alot

of pain between the low back and the è neck I am ready to just shoot myself.

You know one

è area at a time is hard enough but when several are è acting up I am losing

it here. I really hope PT helps I è have heard from many that back surgery is

not good?

è they say they have more problems than before. for me è the shooting pain

down my legs is driving me nuts. è maybe he can do radio frequency to stop

that, Ihope I

è know in my neck they did and it helped control the è pain. Right now I

went back to the percocet because è the pain is unbearable at the moment. The

doctor did

è tell me to do that. So I guess today is a bed day è again. I am only

forty and I hate to see what I will be è like in ten more years. My kids don't

understand. è Well, drugs working now getting that dizzy feeling so è thanks for

the information. Joy

FUSION is irreversible. Surgery should be your last option, whether it's an

artifical disk, or a fusion. Artificial disks can be replaced with fusion.

We've been seeing one of the best in the country at Yale who trained in Germany.

For those of us who need 2+ levels, i'd opt for it either way (only my opinion)

because it means mobility over less mobility. It's a crap shoot. Fusions are

only 50-80% successful also. There are no crystal balls, any good doctor will

tell you that they just wont know until they see the results, since everyone

is different.

spinedoctor.com is a good site to look at.. read all you can in order to make

an informed decision, and ask questions !! Make sure your ortho knows his

stuff. My Husband was misdiagnosed for 5 years before it got so bad we asked

for a second opinion.

Rule of thumb i've found?

Any surgeon qualified to be in the clinincal trials for the artifical disks

(even if you dont go that avenue) is also a very very good ortho. For what it's

worth, i'd trust our surgeon to replace his disks in a heartbeat if the US

had 3 levels in approval. We're fighting the insurance Co. to send him to

germany to do it.

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<<What oils have you been able to identify in your research?  A way of

checking the accuracy of one's nose if you will....>>

-------------------------------------------------------------

In books and on-line research, I have found such a wide disparity of supposed

ingredients for " genuine nag champa " ---including everything from sandalwood,

frankincense, myrrh, amber, safron, patchouli, + magnolia, plumeria, jasmine,

rose, neroli, etc.... and I've bought so many incenses labeled as " genuine

nag champa " --all smelling similar yet different, the floral or top notes

seeming to be what differentiates. I'd just really like to weed-out the

synthetic

components and attempt to create a natural version that smells " not too

distant " .... ~Carol

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Hey NEWBIES. . .1st of all, I want to WELCOME you to the Group that no one wants

to be a member; but glad that you found us early in your survival. Don't

hesitate to post any and all questions and/or concerns to the group. Your

brother & sister survivors have been there/done that and are here for you.

At diagnosis 11/2003, I was 800,000+ per Million, with 15 other

fatal/terminal/chronic diseases. . .all of which I call Chronic Illnesses. My

Oncologist gave me a referral to the Cancer Center in my area and 2 months

mortality. During my consultation, 12/18/2003 the Specialist at the UMCCC gave

me the stats on BMTs at 30%+ die in first 3 months and over 50% die in first

year. Due to my other health issues, I was not a candidate, thought I wouldn't

go that route if I were with the stats available today; and I was given 2-5

months morbid mortality. " Man points. . .GOD Appoints " ! ! !

I came home, had a 2 1/2 week pity party and then I armed myself to fight the

battle of my life. . .for my life. I went through H**L as my body adjusted to

the Gold~Gleevec

I reached " 0/Negative " on the FISH Test and became #811 on Zavie's list in

January 2005. On September 1, 2006; I received the results of my 2nd RT-PCR Test

0.00136,(1st~12/2005--I've come a 'long way' from diagnosis).

I guess the best advice I can give to a Newbie is. . .RELAX--let your body

adjust to our Gold & ENJOY--your new Life as a Survivor. If something doesn't

seem right. . .it isn't. Run, do not walk, RUN to your nearest ER, PCP or

medical facility. I had chest pains--ER--2 heart attacks--2 Stents implanted. I

shudder when I think of the 5xs that I took Maalox and laid down.

Dr. Drucker~Father of Gleevec stated at the ASH Conference in December that

our bug is truly a Chronic disease, much like Diabetes, with a newly diagnosed

person having a 25-year mortality; with only 51 months of scientific

documentation available. We now have the AMS & BMS medications, the Vaccine,

and 18 other medications on the horizon. Not to mention the BMT, which I don't

consider a 'cure' because GVHD is a Killer; it is my opinion that the cure's in

the SCT. (my 2 cents). Dr. Talpaz~Father of CML is at UM doing SC research.

As I begin celebrating the 4th year of my new life as a Survivor, I truly know

that 'every day is a Gift from GOD'!

I AM A SURVIVOR. . .I AIN'T FINISHED YET ! ! !

Take care. . . I have added you to my prayers.

*Note: I was able to email each Newbie years ago, now I post to the Group. I

pray its not that more of us are being diagnosed. . .that more of us are finding

the group. Has anyone seen any statistics on this, I was told my an Oncologist

in '04 that there were approximately 4,000 Survivors worldwide. (?)

" K "

" I AIN'T FINISHED YET " !!!

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Has anyone seen any statistics on this, I was told my an Oncologist

in '04 that there were approximately 4,000 Survivors worldwide. (?)

>********************

Hi Kay,

I think you may have misunderstood when you heard that there were

aproximately 4,000 Survivors worldwide because it's about that many

that are diagnosed every year in the US. Here's a quote from the

L & L Society

" About 4,600 new cases of chronic myelogenous leukemia (CML) are

diagnosed each year in the United States "

( http://cml.leukemia-lymphoma.org/CMLApp/Controller?

action=loadContent & itemid=191240 & ln=2 )

Thanks to Gleevec, we're living longer and longer now and the last I

heard, there were over 100,000 people worldwide who were currently

on Gleevec. I expect this will continue to grow every year as new

people continue to be diagnosed and the old people continue to

live

Take care,

Tracey

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Beautiful and encouraging testimony. Thanks

Ms. Muse

" I believe that unarmed truth and unconditional love will have final word in

reality. This is why right, temporarily defeated, is stronger than evil

triumphant. "

Luther King, Jr.

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Dear all,

Dr. from Kollam,Kerala.

Off label use of medicines - don't you remember the controversy over the use of Letrozale for infertility?

Still the practice is continuing.

There should be some guidelines on the off label use.

Can the profession claim absolute autonomy in pharmacotherapeutics?No,I feel.

IMA in Kerala was saying Drugs Controller has no authority to decide which drug a practitioner should use?

Needs to be debated.

Dr. ,

Neurosurgeon,Kollam.

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Dear Dr. Smita Congratulations for the job welldone. I read withinterest most of the mails. Being a physician I donotsee any patient below 13 years of age, nor do Iprescribe to anyone of them including children of my relatives!I wish Paeditrician should be most careful whileprescribing keeping in mind the oldest wisdom " primumnon nocere- First do no harm " ! With good wishesmahadevmahadev desai

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Hello sir and Dr Anupama,Thank you very much for the words of appriciation. Things which are in front of you, are all gained from " NetRUM " .Sir has rightly said that rational and safe use of medicine should start with " primum non nocere- First do no harm " ! and end with the same. This supports rights of community and will contribute to health of all.Regards,Dr Smita Mali,GMC, Nagpur.

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Hello Dr , Thanks for sharing your views. There are no guidelines for the off-label use and no Indian data to quantify the use .We need to undertake post marketting surveillance to : identify prescribing practices not based on evidence differentiate off-label use that are clinically reasonable from that of serious concern However, there are clinical condition where no adequate treatment is availble e.g. Alzheimer's disease Is off -label use justified ? Regulatory authorities can control manufacturer and the way the product is promoted but not the prescribers.The Medical associations, teaching institutes can certainly help in this direction . Mira Desai jacob john <jacobjns@...> wrote: Dear all, Dr. from Kollam,Kerala. Off label use of medicines - don't you remember the controversy over the use of Letrozale for infertility? Still the practice is continuing. There should be some guidelines on the off label use. Can the profession claim absolute autonomy in pharmacotherapeutics?No,I feel. IMA in Kerala was saying Drugs Controller has no authority to decide which drug a practitioner should use? Needs to be debated. Dr. , Neurosurgeon,Kollam. jacobjnsgmail On 29 Nov 2007 08:50:57 -0000, netrum <netrum > wrote: Network for Rational Use of Medicines Messages In This Digest (17 Messages) 1a. Re: Hello seniors turned back on children!!!(welcome all "back") From: mahadev desai 1b. Re: Hello seniors turned back on children!!!(welcome all "back") From: Smita 2a. Re: Off-label use of medicines From: bindu_raol 2b. Re: off label use ..... From: Mira Desai 2c. Re: off label use ..... From: Mira Desai 2d. Re: Off-label use of medicines From: Vijay 3a. Re: drug database From: Rakesh Biswas 3b. Re: drug database From: Smita 4a. Re: In nutshell (Safe Medicines for Children) From: Smita 4b. Re: In nutshell (Safe Medicines for Children) From: Narendra 4c. Re: In nutshell (Safe Medicines for Children) From: Vijay 5a. off label... From: anupama sukhlecha 5b. Re: off label... From: mahadev desai 6a. Attn Chetna and Smita From: Vijay 7a. Re: Iron defeciency anemia in children From: Vijay 7b. Re: Iron defeciency anemia in children From: Vijay 7c. Re: Iron defeciency anemia in children From: Vijay View All Topics | Create New Topic Messages 1a. Re: Hello seniors turned back on children!!!(welcome all "back") Posted by: "mahadev desai" mahadevdesai mahadevdesai Wed Nov 28, 2007 3:13 am (PST)

Dear Dr. Smita Congratulations for the job welldone. I read withinterest most of the mails. Being a physician I donotsee any patient below 13 years of age, nor do Iprescribe to anyone of them including children of my relatives!I wish Paeditrician should be most careful whileprescribing keeping in mind the oldest wisdom "primumnon nocere- First do no harm"! With good wishesmahadevmahadev desai208,Harikrupa Tower, Ellisbridge,Ahmedabad 380006e-mail address :mahadevdesai Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (15) 1b. Re: Hello seniors turned back on children!!!(welcome all "back") Posted by: "Smita" smt_mali (DOT) co.in smt_mali Wed Nov 28, 2007 5:11 am (PST) Hello sir and Dr Anupama,Thank you very much for the words of appriciation. Things which are in front of you, are all gained from "NetRUM".Sir has rightly said that rational and safe use of medicine should start with "primum non nocere-

First do no harm"! and end with the same. This supports rights of community and will contribute to health of all.Regards,Dr Smita Mali,GMC, Nagpur. > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > You can make a comment here: > > > > > > > > > http://www2. ljworld.com/ news/2007/ nov/16/mental_> > > illness/?> > > > > > opinion> > > > > > >

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Dear Madam, There are lakhs of prescriptions coming to pharmacies all over India. It would not be possible to check all. Only when something serious happens with a patient, prescriptions are rechecked. If mentioning diagnosis in prescription is made mandatory, and all prescriptions are documented (either in registers or as carbon copy), we can get to know to what extent the "off-label use" practice goes on. Anupama.Mira Desai <desaimirak@...> wrote: Hello Dr , Thanks for sharing your views. There are no guidelines for the off-label use and no Indian data to quantify the use .We need to undertake post marketting surveillance to : identify prescribing practices not based on evidence differentiate off-label use that are clinically reasonable from that of serious concern However, there are clinical condition where no adequate treatment is availble e.g. Alzheimer's disease Is off -label use justified ? Regulatory authorities can control manufacturer and the way the product is promoted but not the prescribers.The Medical associations, teaching institutes can certainly help in this direction . Mira Desai jacob john <jacobjnsgmail> wrote: Dear all, Dr. from Kollam,Kerala. Off label use of medicines - don't you remember the controversy over the use of Letrozale for infertility? Still the practice is continuing. There should be some guidelines on the off label use. Can the profession claim absolute autonomy in pharmacotherapeutics?No,I feel. IMA in Kerala was saying Drugs Controller has no authority to decide which drug a practitioner should use? Needs to be debated. Dr. , Neurosurgeon,Kollam. jacobjnsgmail On 29 Nov 2007 08:50:57

-0000, netrum <netrum > wrote: Network for Rational Use of Medicines Messages In This Digest (17 Messages) 1a. Re: Hello seniors turned back on children!!!(welcome all "back") From: mahadev

desai 1b. Re: Hello seniors turned back on children!!!(welcome all "back") From: Smita 2a. Re: Off-label use of medicines From: bindu_raol 2b. Re: off label use ..... From: Mira Desai 2c. Re: off label use ..... From: Mira Desai 2d. Re: Off-label use of medicines From: Vijay 3a. Re: drug database From: Rakesh Biswas 3b. Re: drug database From: Smita 4a. Re: In nutshell (Safe Medicines for Children) From: Smita 4b. Re: In nutshell (Safe Medicines for Children) From: Narendra 4c. Re: In nutshell (Safe Medicines for Children) From: Vijay 5a. off label... From: anupama sukhlecha 5b. Re: off label... From: mahadev desai 6a. Attn Chetna and Smita From: Vijay 7a. Re: Iron defeciency anemia in children From: Vijay 7b. Re: Iron defeciency anemia in children From: Vijay 7c. Re: Iron defeciency anemia in children From: Vijay View All Topics | Create New Topic Messages 1a. Re: Hello seniors turned back on children!!!(welcome all "back") Posted by: "mahadev desai" mahadevdesai mahadevdesai Wed Nov 28, 2007 3:13 am (PST) Dear Dr. Smita Congratulations for the job welldone. I read withinterest most of the mails. Being a physician I donotsee any patient below 13 years of age, nor do Iprescribe to anyone of them including children of my relatives!I wish

Paeditrician should be most careful whileprescribing keeping in mind the oldest wisdom "primumnon nocere- First do no harm"! With good wishesmahadevmahadev desai208,Harikrupa Tower, Ellisbridge,Ahmedabad 380006e-mail address :mahadevdesai Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger. Back to top Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post Messages in this topic (15) 1b. Re: Hello seniors turned back on children!!!(welcome all "back") Posted by: "Smita" smt_mali (DOT) co.in smt_mali Wed Nov 28, 2007 5:11 am (PST) Hello sir and Dr Anupama,Thank you very much for the words of appriciation. Things which are in front of you, are all gained from "NetRUM".Sir has rightly said that rational and safe use of medicine should start with "primum non nocere- First do no harm"! and end with the same. This supports rights of community and will contribute to health of all.Regards,Dr Smita Mali,GMC, Nagpur. > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > You can make a comment here: > > > > > > > > > http://www2. ljworld.com/ news/2007/ nov/16/mental_> > > illness/?> > > > > > opinion> > > > > > > > >> ...[Message clipped] Save all your chat conversations. Find them online.

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Dear Anupama, You can take a representative sample to evaluate the extent of off-label use . You rightly mentioned to face difficulties as we are very poor in maintaining records and documentation and most of the prescrition diagnosis is not written. Most of the teaching hospitals lack this facility.However, the study can be undertaken by including academically oriented clinicians. Mira Desaianupama sukhlecha <anupama_acad@...> wrote: Dear Madam, There are lakhs of prescriptions

coming to pharmacies all over India. It would not be possible to check all. Only when something serious happens with a patient, prescriptions are rechecked. If mentioning diagnosis in prescription is made mandatory, and all prescriptions are documented (either in registers or as carbon copy), we can get to know to what extent the "off-label use" practice goes on. Anupama.Mira Desai <desaimirak (DOT) co.in> wrote: Hello Dr , Thanks for sharing your views. There are no guidelines for the off-label use and no Indian data to quantify the use .We need to undertake post marketting surveillance to : identify prescribing practices not based on evidence differentiate off-label use that are clinically

reasonable from that of serious concern However, there are clinical condition where no adequate treatment is availble e.g. Alzheimer's disease Is off -label use justified ? Regulatory authorities can control manufacturer and the way the product is promoted but not the prescribers.The Medical associations, teaching institutes can certainly help in this direction . Mira Desai jacob john <jacobjnsgmail> wrote: Dear all, Dr. from Kollam,Kerala. Off label use of medicines - don't you remember the controversy over the use of Letrozale for infertility? Still the practice is continuing. There should be

some guidelines on the off label use. Can the profession claim absolute autonomy in pharmacotherapeutics?No,I feel. IMA in Kerala was saying Drugs Controller has no authority to decide which drug a practitioner should use? Needs to be debated. Dr. , Neurosurgeon,Kollam. jacobjnsgmail On 29 Nov 2007 08:50:57 -0000, netrum <netrum > wrote: Network for Rational Use of Medicines Messages In This Digest (17 Messages) 1a. Re: Hello seniors turned back on children!!!(welcome all "back") From: mahadev desai 1b. Re: Hello seniors turned back on children!!!(welcome all "back") From: Smita

2a. Re: Off-label use of medicines From: bindu_raol 2b. Re: off label use ..... From: Mira Desai 2c. Re: off label use ..... From: Mira Desai 2d. Re: Off-label use of medicines From: Vijay 3a. Re: drug database From: Rakesh Biswas 3b. Re: drug database From: Smita 4a. Re: In nutshell (Safe Medicines for Children) From: Smita 4b. Re: In nutshell (Safe Medicines for Children) From: Narendra 4c. Re: In nutshell (Safe Medicines for Children) From: Vijay 5a. off label... From: anupama sukhlecha 5b. Re: off label... From: mahadev desai 6a. Attn Chetna and Smita From: Vijay 7a. Re: Iron defeciency anemia in children From: Vijay 7b. Re: Iron defeciency anemia in children From: Vijay 7c. Re: Iron defeciency anemia in children From: Vijay View All Topics | Create New Topic Messages 1a. Re: Hello seniors turned back on children!!!(welcome all "back") Posted by: "mahadev desai" mahadevdesai mahadevdesai Wed Nov 28, 2007 3:13 am (PST) Dear Dr. Smita Congratulations for the job welldone. I read withinterest most of the mails. Being a physician I donotsee any patient below 13 years of age, nor do Iprescribe to anyone of them including children of my relatives!I wish Paeditrician should be most careful whileprescribing keeping in mind the oldest wisdom "primumnon nocere- First do no harm"! With good wishesmahadevmahadev desai208,Harikrupa Tower, Ellisbridge,Ahmedabad 380006e-mail address :mahadevdesai Send instant messages to

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Wed Nov 28, 2007 5:11 am (PST) Hello sir and Dr Anupama,Thank you very much for the words of appriciation. Things which are in front of you, are all gained from "NetRUM".Sir has rightly said that rational and safe use of medicine should start with "primum non nocere- First do no harm"! and end with the same. This supports rights of community and will contribute to health of all.Regards,Dr Smita Mali,GMC, Nagpur. > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > You can make a comment here: > > > > > > > > > http://www2. ljworld.com/ news/2007/ nov/16/mental_> > > illness/?> > > > > > opinion> > > > > > > > >> ...[Message clipped] Save all your chat conversations. Find them online. Download prohibited? No problem. CHAT from any browser, without download.

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