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In a message dated 10/7/00 1:05:23 AM Eastern Daylight Time, JILBAIT@...

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> My baby is just turning six months old and has always had red dry patches on

> his trunk. Now, they seem to be getting worse. They don't seem to bother

> him. I know it is eczema because I have had my own problems with it in the

> past. Can anyone help me with some healing tips. Thanks in advance Jill

>

>

Excemea is usually caused by an allergy.My little girl had small spots on her

belly and legs when she was nursing. I cut out milk and they went away. But,

in the meantime, Calendula lotion really helps the spots to heal. Weleda

makes a nice calendula lotion. Or, use whatever kind you find.

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Eczema certainly can follow vaccines as vaccine damage - don't know if that

is your situation.

Sometimes it is a fatty acid metabolism difficulty - here is from another

list I am on and it sounds reasonable (and especially if the child is

vaccinated, making them more at risk to develop it).

Possibly:

these kids are born with some fatty acid metabolism

abnormalities. Specifically the primary problem seems

that they lack the enzyme necissary to convert linoleic

acid to gamma linoleic acid(GLA). In the body fatty

acids are used to make prostaglandins. These, among

other things, influence inflammatory response. Some

fatty acids form prostaglandins that enhance

inflammation while others form those that suppress

inflammation. In a healthy balance, they keep each

other in check, whereas if you are lacking one, the

other is allowed to exert more influence. GLA is one

that has anti-inflammatory properties so when you are

deficient, there will be a tendency toward hyper-

responsiveness & inflammation. You can search PubMed

for many recent studies where oral GLA supplementation

has been demonstrated to alleviate the symptoms of

eczema: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?

Also allergies - dairy etc - or allergies to what you, if you are

breastfeeding, are eating.

If none of the above work, homeopathic treatment with a quality classical

homeopath may be helpful.

I had eczema as a baby and grew out of it at some point. Or, as I've

learned in homeopathy, it could have disappeared with the use of steroid

creams (big problems) and worse things started to appear - I had chronic

tonsilitis and finally and tonsils out (not a good idea from my point of

view now. From a homeopathic prespective, once you stop a certain set of

symptoms, often worse symptoms will appear. If you want to know more about

that I have an article on homeopathy http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/homeo.htm

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http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm

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I read somewhere that lactose from milk does not come through in breast

milk.

>From: Sheri Nakken <snakken@...>

>Reply-Vaccinationsegroups

>Vaccinationsegroups

>Subject: Re: OT need help w/baby's eczmea

>Date: Sat, 07 Oct 2000 10:41:37 -0700

>

>Eczema certainly can follow vaccines as vaccine damage - don't know if that

>is your situation.

>Sometimes it is a fatty acid metabolism difficulty - here is from another

>list I am on and it sounds reasonable (and especially if the child is

>vaccinated, making them more at risk to develop it).

>

>Possibly:

> these kids are born with some fatty acid metabolism

> abnormalities. Specifically the primary problem seems

> that they lack the enzyme necissary to convert linoleic

> acid to gamma linoleic acid(GLA). In the body fatty

> acids are used to make prostaglandins. These, among

> other things, influence inflammatory response. Some

> fatty acids form prostaglandins that enhance

> inflammation while others form those that suppress

> inflammation. In a healthy balance, they keep each

> other in check, whereas if you are lacking one, the

> other is allowed to exert more influence. GLA is one

> that has anti-inflammatory properties so when you are

> deficient, there will be a tendency toward hyper-

> responsiveness & inflammation. You can search PubMed

> for many recent studies where oral GLA supplementation

> has been demonstrated to alleviate the symptoms of

> eczema: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?

>

>

>Also allergies - dairy etc - or allergies to what you, if you are

>breastfeeding, are eating.

>

>If none of the above work, homeopathic treatment with a quality classical

>homeopath may be helpful.

>

>I had eczema as a baby and grew out of it at some point. Or, as I've

>learned in homeopathy, it could have disappeared with the use of steroid

>creams (big problems) and worse things started to appear - I had chronic

>tonsilitis and finally and tonsils out (not a good idea from my point of

>view now. From a homeopathic prespective, once you stop a certain set of

>symptoms, often worse symptoms will appear. If you want to know more about

>that I have an article on homeopathy http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/homeo.htm

>--------------------------------------------------------

>Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA

>Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA

>http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm

>ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE

>DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE.

>Well Within's Earth Mysteries & Sacred Site Tours

>http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin

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> Education, Homeopathic Education

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Sheri,

Thanks for the info I will being checking into it after I send this

letter. My baby has NEVER been near a needle and I do breastfeed, but not

exclusively. I have never, from day one, made enough breast milk to sustain

my baby, so I have always had to supplement and I do so with soy formula. I

don't know if this info help you with any more ideas of how to help his

eczema. My first attempt is going to be changing our laundry detergent.

Thanks for your help. Jill

PS I truly appreciate all the info you post here, whether it be OT or

not!!!!!!!

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My name is Bari and wanted to reply to this excerpt on excema and " lactose

from milk not coming through in breastmilk " ... to be clear, if a baby is

allergic to cow's milk, it is the cow's milk PROTEIN that the baby is

allergic to... and if the baby is " lactose intolerant " then it is the

lactose that the baby can't handle well. However, the cow's milk PROTEIN

does indeed come through the breastmilk-- and so do ALL the hormones from

the cows given RGBH... and it can be very distressing to a baby who is

allergic. My son is allergic to dairy and I have given up dairy so that I

can continue to breastfeed. Of course, the baby is NOT allegic to your

mother's milk... it is the cow's milk. Indeed, the allergy can produce

really bad excema (like my son had)... I found the book SUPERIMMUNITIES for

KIDS by Leo Galland to be an excellent source of information. I hope this

is helpful. You might also want to contact La Leche league.

>From: " Lashanna Small " <lashannasmall@...>

>Reply-Vaccinationsegroups

>Vaccinationsegroups

>Subject: Re: OT need help w/baby's eczmea

>Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2000 15:25:31 GMT

>

>I read somewhere that lactose from milk does not come through in breast

>milk.

>

>

> >From: Sheri Nakken <snakken@...>

> >Reply-Vaccinationsegroups

> >Vaccinationsegroups

> >Subject: Re: OT need help w/baby's eczmea

> >Date: Sat, 07 Oct 2000 10:41:37 -0700

> >

> >Eczema certainly can follow vaccines as vaccine damage - don't know if

>that

> >is your situation.

> >Sometimes it is a fatty acid metabolism difficulty - here is from another

> >list I am on and it sounds reasonable (and especially if the child is

> >vaccinated, making them more at risk to develop it).

> >

> >Possibly:

> > these kids are born with some fatty acid metabolism

> > abnormalities. Specifically the primary problem

>seems

> > that they lack the enzyme necissary to convert

>linoleic

> > acid to gamma linoleic acid(GLA). In the body fatty

> > acids are used to make prostaglandins. These, among

> > other things, influence inflammatory response. Some

> > fatty acids form prostaglandins that enhance

> > inflammation while others form those that suppress

> > inflammation. In a healthy balance, they keep each

> > other in check, whereas if you are lacking one, the

> > other is allowed to exert more influence. GLA is one

> > that has anti-inflammatory properties so when you are

> > deficient, there will be a tendency toward hyper-

> > responsiveness & inflammation. You can search PubMed

> > for many recent studies where oral GLA

>supplementation

> > has been demonstrated to alleviate the symptoms of

> > eczema:

>http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?

> >

> >

> >Also allergies - dairy etc - or allergies to what you, if you are

> >breastfeeding, are eating.

> >

> >If none of the above work, homeopathic treatment with a quality classical

> >homeopath may be helpful.

> >

> >I had eczema as a baby and grew out of it at some point. Or, as I've

> >learned in homeopathy, it could have disappeared with the use of steroid

> >creams (big problems) and worse things started to appear - I had chronic

> >tonsilitis and finally and tonsils out (not a good idea from my point of

> >view now. From a homeopathic prespective, once you stop a certain set of

> >symptoms, often worse symptoms will appear. If you want to know more

>about

> >that I have an article on homeopathy

>http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/homeo.htm

> >--------------------------------------------------------

> >Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA

> >Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA

> >http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm

> >ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE.

>THE

> >DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE.

> >Well Within's Earth Mysteries & Sacred Site Tours

> >http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin

> >International Tours, Homestudy Courses, ANTHRAX & OTHER Vaccine Dangers

> > Education, Homeopathic Education

> >KVMR Broadcaster/Programmer/Investigative Reporter, Nevada City CA

> >CEU's for nurses, Books & Multi-Pure Water Filters

>

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My name is Bari and wanted to reply to this excerpt on excema and " lactose

from milk not coming through in breastmilk " ... to be clear, if a baby is

allergic to cow's milk, it is the cow's milk PROTEIN that the baby is

allergic to... and if the baby is " lactose intolerant " then it is the

lactose that the baby can't handle well. However, the cow's milk PROTEIN

does indeed come through the breastmilk-- and so do ALL the hormones from

the cows given RGBH... and it can be very distressing to a baby who is

allergic. My son is allergic to dairy and I have given up dairy so that I

can continue to breastfeed. Of course, the baby is NOT allegic to your

mother's milk... it is the cow's milk. Indeed, the allergy can produce

really bad excema (like my son had)... I found the book SUPERIMMUNITIES for

KIDS by Leo Galland to be an excellent source of information. I hope this

is helpful. You might also want to contact La Leche league.

>From: " Lashanna Small " <lashannasmall@...>

>Reply-Vaccinationsegroups

>Vaccinationsegroups

>Subject: Re: OT need help w/baby's eczmea

>Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2000 15:25:31 GMT

>

>I read somewhere that lactose from milk does not come through in breast

>milk.

>

>

> >From: Sheri Nakken <snakken@...>

> >Reply-Vaccinationsegroups

> >Vaccinationsegroups

> >Subject: Re: OT need help w/baby's eczmea

> >Date: Sat, 07 Oct 2000 10:41:37 -0700

> >

> >Eczema certainly can follow vaccines as vaccine damage - don't know if

>that

> >is your situation.

> >Sometimes it is a fatty acid metabolism difficulty - here is from another

> >list I am on and it sounds reasonable (and especially if the child is

> >vaccinated, making them more at risk to develop it).

> >

> >Possibly:

> > these kids are born with some fatty acid metabolism

> > abnormalities. Specifically the primary problem

>seems

> > that they lack the enzyme necissary to convert

>linoleic

> > acid to gamma linoleic acid(GLA). In the body fatty

> > acids are used to make prostaglandins. These, among

> > other things, influence inflammatory response. Some

> > fatty acids form prostaglandins that enhance

> > inflammation while others form those that suppress

> > inflammation. In a healthy balance, they keep each

> > other in check, whereas if you are lacking one, the

> > other is allowed to exert more influence. GLA is one

> > that has anti-inflammatory properties so when you are

> > deficient, there will be a tendency toward hyper-

> > responsiveness & inflammation. You can search PubMed

> > for many recent studies where oral GLA

>supplementation

> > has been demonstrated to alleviate the symptoms of

> > eczema:

>http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?

> >

> >

> >Also allergies - dairy etc - or allergies to what you, if you are

> >breastfeeding, are eating.

> >

> >If none of the above work, homeopathic treatment with a quality classical

> >homeopath may be helpful.

> >

> >I had eczema as a baby and grew out of it at some point. Or, as I've

> >learned in homeopathy, it could have disappeared with the use of steroid

> >creams (big problems) and worse things started to appear - I had chronic

> >tonsilitis and finally and tonsils out (not a good idea from my point of

> >view now. From a homeopathic prespective, once you stop a certain set of

> >symptoms, often worse symptoms will appear. If you want to know more

>about

> >that I have an article on homeopathy

>http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/homeo.htm

> >--------------------------------------------------------

> >Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA

> >Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA

> >http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm

> >ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE.

>THE

> >DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE.

> >Well Within's Earth Mysteries & Sacred Site Tours

> >http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin

> >International Tours, Homestudy Courses, ANTHRAX & OTHER Vaccine Dangers

> > Education, Homeopathic Education

> >KVMR Broadcaster/Programmer/Investigative Reporter, Nevada City CA

> >CEU's for nurses, Books & Multi-Pure Water Filters

>

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At 11:19 PM 10/08/2000 EDT, you wrote:

>Sheri,

>

> Thanks for the info I will being checking into it after I send this

>letter. My baby has NEVER been near a needle and I do breastfeed, but not

>exclusively. I have never, from day one, made enough breast milk to sustain

>my baby, so I have always had to supplement and I do so with soy formula. I

>don't know if this info help you with any more ideas of how to help his

>eczema. My first attempt is going to be changing our laundry detergent.

>Thanks for your help. Jill

>PS I truly appreciate all the info you post here, whether it be OT or

>not!!!!!!!

>

Thanks,

Soy could be the culprit too.

Also laundry detergent - so many things.

--------------------------------------------------------

Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA

Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA

http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm

ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE

DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE.

Well Within's Earth Mysteries & Sacred Site Tours

http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin

International Tours, Homestudy Courses, ANTHRAX & OTHER Vaccine Dangers

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In a message dated 10/8/00 11:20:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time, JILBAIT@...

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> so I have always had to supplement and I do so with soy formula

Do you know that 50% of babies who have a dairy allergery also have a soy

allergy?? You're baby could have a soy allergy. How old is the baby now...I

know it was in your original post, but can't recall. I'm assuming you have

tried to up your supply different ways? if not, maybe you could try it and

try to get off soy a few days to see what happens?

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It is usually a lack of essential fatty acids or the adrenals aren't

producing enough corticosteroids. Try an anti inflammatory herb like yucca.

Just make a poultice and place it over the adrenal area or add a little bit

of it on your finger and place it in his mouth but just a tiny amount.

Adding some flax seed oil would help with the EFA's

Kim

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OT need help w/baby's eczmea

> My baby is just turning six months old and has always had red dry patches

on

> his trunk. Now, they seem to be getting worse. They don't seem to bother

> him. I know it is eczema because I have had my own problems with it in

the

> past. Can anyone help me with some healing tips. Thanks in advance Jill

>

>

>

>

>

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In a message dated 10/09/2000 3:41:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

lashannasmall@... writes:

<< I was

thinking about taking out dairy but I was told that it didn’t come through

breastmilk. But I do understand what you are saying. I have been trying to

slowly cut out milk products myself. If it worked for you, It might work

for me huh?! >>

The only dairy/milk product that my daughter seemed to be affected by when I

was nursing was milk. Even now, she can only not drink milk. She can eat

limited amounts of cheese, butter and such.

Try that first adn see what happens.

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Interesting. My baby has eczema also. How old is your baby? I was

thinking about taking out dairy but I was told that it didn’t come through

breastmilk. But I do understand what you are saying. I have been trying to

slowly cut out milk products myself. If it worked for you, It might work

for me huh?!

>From: " Bari Lichtman " <blichtman@...>

>Reply-Vaccinationsegroups

>Vaccinationsegroups

>Subject: Re: OT need help w/baby's eczmea

>Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 03:27:09 GMT

>

>

>My name is Bari and wanted to reply to this excerpt on excema and " lactose

>from milk not coming through in breastmilk " ... to be clear, if a baby is

>allergic to cow's milk, it is the cow's milk PROTEIN that the baby is

>allergic to... and if the baby is " lactose intolerant " then it is the

>lactose that the baby can't handle well. However, the cow's milk PROTEIN

>does indeed come through the breastmilk-- and so do ALL the hormones from

>the cows given RGBH... and it can be very distressing to a baby who is

>allergic. My son is allergic to dairy and I have given up dairy so that I

>can continue to breastfeed. Of course, the baby is NOT allegic to your

>mother's milk... it is the cow's milk. Indeed, the allergy can produce

>really bad excema (like my son had)... I found the book SUPERIMMUNITIES for

>KIDS by Leo Galland to be an excellent source of information. I hope this

>is helpful. You might also want to contact La Leche league.

>

> >From: " Lashanna Small " <lashannasmall@...>

> >Reply-Vaccinationsegroups

> >Vaccinationsegroups

> >Subject: Re: OT need help w/baby's eczmea

> >Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2000 15:25:31 GMT

> >

> >I read somewhere that lactose from milk does not come through in breast

> >milk.

> >

> >

> > >From: Sheri Nakken <snakken@...>

> > >Reply-Vaccinationsegroups

> > >Vaccinationsegroups

> > >Subject: Re: OT need help w/baby's eczmea

> > >Date: Sat, 07 Oct 2000 10:41:37 -0700

> > >

> > >Eczema certainly can follow vaccines as vaccine damage - don't know if

> >that

> > >is your situation.

> > >Sometimes it is a fatty acid metabolism difficulty - here is from

>another

> > >list I am on and it sounds reasonable (and especially if the child is

> > >vaccinated, making them more at risk to develop it).

> > >

> > >Possibly:

> > > these kids are born with some fatty acid metabolism

> > > abnormalities. Specifically the primary problem

> >seems

> > > that they lack the enzyme necissary to convert

> >linoleic

> > > acid to gamma linoleic acid(GLA). In the body

>fatty

> > > acids are used to make prostaglandins. These,

>among

> > > other things, influence inflammatory response.

>Some

> > > fatty acids form prostaglandins that enhance

> > > inflammation while others form those that suppress

> > > inflammation. In a healthy balance, they keep each

> > > other in check, whereas if you are lacking one, the

> > > other is allowed to exert more influence. GLA is

>one

> > > that has anti-inflammatory properties so when you

>are

> > > deficient, there will be a tendency toward hyper-

> > > responsiveness & inflammation. You can search

>PubMed

> > > for many recent studies where oral GLA

> >supplementation

> > > has been demonstrated to alleviate the symptoms of

> > > eczema:

> >http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?

> > >

> > >

> > >Also allergies - dairy etc - or allergies to what you, if you are

> > >breastfeeding, are eating.

> > >

> > >If none of the above work, homeopathic treatment with a quality

>classical

> > >homeopath may be helpful.

> > >

> > >I had eczema as a baby and grew out of it at some point. Or, as I've

> > >learned in homeopathy, it could have disappeared with the use of

>steroid

> > >creams (big problems) and worse things started to appear - I had

>chronic

> > >tonsilitis and finally and tonsils out (not a good idea from my point

>of

> > >view now. From a homeopathic prespective, once you stop a certain set

>of

> > >symptoms, often worse symptoms will appear. If you want to know more

> >about

> > >that I have an article on homeopathy

> >http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/homeo.htm

> > >--------------------------------------------------------

> > >Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA

> > >Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA

> > >http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm

> > >ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE.

> >THE

> > >DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE.

> > >Well Within's Earth Mysteries & Sacred Site Tours

> > >http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin

> > >International Tours, Homestudy Courses, ANTHRAX & OTHER Vaccine Dangers

> > > Education, Homeopathic Education

> > >KVMR Broadcaster/Programmer/Investigative Reporter, Nevada City CA

> > >CEU's for nurses, Books & Multi-Pure Water Filters

> >

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Can you supply more information on making a poultice? I breastfeed my

child. If I include flaxseed oil in my diet, will that help her?

>From: " Balas, ND " <vital4s@...>

>Reply-Vaccinationsegroups

><Vaccinationsegroups>

>Subject: Re: OT need help w/baby's eczmea

>Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 03:08:19 -0700

>

>It is usually a lack of essential fatty acids or the adrenals aren't

>producing enough corticosteroids. Try an anti inflammatory herb like

>yucca.

>Just make a poultice and place it over the adrenal area or add a little bit

>of it on your finger and place it in his mouth but just a tiny amount.

>Adding some flax seed oil would help with the EFA's

>Kim

>__________________________________________________________________________

> D. Balas, PhD, ND

>Tree Of Light Institute

>Certified Aromatherapist

>Certified Instructor

>Course Development

>vital4s@...

>www.iamclear.com

>888-707-4372

> OT need help w/baby's eczmea

>

>

> > My baby is just turning six months old and has always had red dry

>patches

>on

> > his trunk. Now, they seem to be getting worse. They don't seem to

>bother

> > him. I know it is eczema because I have had my own problems with it in

>the

> > past. Can anyone help me with some healing tips. Thanks in advance

>Jill

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

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Do you pump? Making sure that you stimulate your breast (through pumping or

feeding ) every two hours helps your milk supply. Also have you trying

taking fenugreek or blessed thistle? At one point, my milk supply started

to dwindle. I took fenugreek and pumped more often and it came up.

>From: teresav26@...

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>Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 08:02:24 EDT

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>In a message dated 10/8/00 11:20:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

>JILBAIT@...

>writes:

>

>

> > so I have always had to supplement and I do so with soy formula

>

>Do you know that 50% of babies who have a dairy allergery also have a soy

>allergy?? You're baby could have a soy allergy. How old is the baby

>now...I

>know it was in your original post, but can't recall. I'm assuming you have

>tried to up your supply different ways? if not, maybe you could try it and

>try to get off soy a few days to see what happens?

>

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Hi, everyone thank for the advice. Here are the answers to the questions

asked. My baby is six months old but has had the eczema for a long time. As

for my milk supply. I have work with a lactation consultant RN who would

rather die than give a baby formula and we could not get my supply up. She

did put me on Fenugreek and that does work for me. What is blessed thistle?

And what form does it come it? i.e. pill, liquid. If my baby is allergenic

to the other formulas what else would I give him?

Thanks again everyone. I just love this site -- great for a first time

Mom!!! Jill

, send me if info you have. I would really appreciate it.

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In a message dated 10/8/00 9:18:02 PM Pacific Daylight Time, snakken@...

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<< Also laundry detergent >>

I get a horrible rash on my hands if I use certain soap (its like little

blisters)- and I have to be very careful to rinse my clothing out after the

wash.

Chelly

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<< Can you supply more information on making a poultice? I breastfeed my

child. If I include flaxseed oil in my diet, will that help her? >>

Have you tried Breastmilk on the skin? I have heard that it helps with

diaper rash, why not give it a go.....

Chelly

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Well, I myself have not tried blessed thistle. I just used the fenugreek.

Someone in one of these e-mail groups mentioned it when someone else asked a

breastfeeding question. Might be a good thing to research.

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>Subject: Re: OT need help w/baby's eczmea

>Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 21:49:29 EDT

>

>Hi, everyone thank for the advice. Here are the answers to the questions

>asked. My baby is six months old but has had the eczema for a long time.

>As

>for my milk supply. I have work with a lactation consultant RN who would

>rather die than give a baby formula and we could not get my supply up. She

>did put me on Fenugreek and that does work for me. What is blessed

>thistle?

>And what form does it come it? i.e. pill, liquid. If my baby is allergenic

>to the other formulas what else would I give him?

>Thanks again everyone. I just love this site -- great for a first time

>Mom!!! Jill

>

>, send me if info you have. I would really appreciate it.

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Mother's Milk tea (Traditional Medicinals) is made with blessed thistle (as well

as fenugreek and fennel).

S.

Lashanna Small wrote:

> Well, I myself have not tried blessed thistle. I just used the fenugreek.

> Someone in one of these e-mail groups mentioned it when someone else asked a

> breastfeeding question. Might be a good thing to research.

>

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I saw Blessed Thistle mentioned a few times here and wanted to note that it

is on the contraindicated list for use during pregnancy. I am not sure why.

Just wanted to throw that in for anyone who was looking to use it. You might

want to check it out first.

Also, I found a homeopathic remedy creme for exzema, B & T brand I believe,

called Florisone. I would be wary of using it on very young children (the

" expert " working that aisle said it was fine) but it worked wonders for my

daughter. People were saying she looked like a burn victim, with the skin

across her belly and the insides of her arms, cracked, peeling, oozing and

bleeding. Each time it would start to heal, she would move and it would

split and start over again.

In my searches, I found that cortizone and steroid cremes can actually make

it worse, clearing up the current rash but as soon as you stop using it, it

comes back as a worse case. Basically, it clears up the symptoms but leaves

you with the illness. Pretty typical, huh?

For us, we discovered that it was most likely a food allergy to eggs and

after about a year/year 1/2, she was completely healed and can again eat

eggs with no problem. During that time, if she ate anything with eggs in it,

she had a flare up.

We used tea tree ointment to help with any infection (which I am pretty sure

she had, as bad as it looked) and then used the florisone cream. I hated to

use it but it was much better than the alternatives and as long as I was

dilegent iin applying it for the recomended 3 times a day, it would clear

her up almost overnight.

Also, using only 100% cotton clothes makes a major difference for both of my

older crackle skin kids and double rinsing helps too. I switched from the

sensitive skin formula detergents to a brand from the health food store with

amazing results.

One last thing, I read recently that you should NEVER use lanolin on exzema.

I admit, I use it on my son from time to time (the tube kind that nursing

women use for cracked nipples). I have never noticed a problem, other that

him smelling like a barn afterwards :), but you might want to do a search

for more info.

Good luck! Exzema sucks.

Katrina

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Lashannna:

My " baby " is 27 months old. BUt I gave up dairy starting when he was only 8

months old. What an amazing difference! He has the most beautiful skin--

and the milk proteins do indeed come through the breastmilk. They are

" broken down " but still can cause an allergic reaction. You must give it up

for 2 weeks to see if it helps as it takes that long to fully clear your

system. Milk is in A LOT of things. It is also known by other names:

Whey, Casein, Sodium Caseinate. I " cut out " the milk, but still had

products with whey it in (okay, I will admit it they were OREOS...) and

(of course) reacted, but as soon as I got rid of the OREOS, was

a lot better and I lost LOTS of weight! Cascadian Farms makes a GREAT

sorbet and be careful about the EDY's brand of Sorbet because it is made of

machines that also do dairy and it can be " contaminated " with dairy. You

could email me separately if you want about this, I know it is off the

vaccine topic, but the issue of dairy allergies is so near to my heart that

if I could give you any information, I hope the others in the group will

understand... this DEFINATELY worked for me. GOod luck. IT is kind of hard

at first to learn to read labels, but the difference in the excema will make

it all worth it.

Love,

Bari

>From: " Lashanna Small " <lashannasmall@...>

>Reply-Vaccinationsegroups

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>Subject: Re: OT need help w/baby's eczmea

>Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 19:10:14 GMT

>

>Interesting. My baby has eczema also. How old is your baby? I was

>thinking about taking out dairy but I was told that it didn’t come through

>breastmilk. But I do understand what you are saying. I have been trying

>to

>slowly cut out milk products myself. If it worked for you, It might work

>for me huh?!

>

>

> >From: " Bari Lichtman " <blichtman@...>

> >Reply-Vaccinationsegroups

> >Vaccinationsegroups

> >Subject: Re: OT need help w/baby's eczmea

> >Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 03:27:09 GMT

> >

> >

> >My name is Bari and wanted to reply to this excerpt on excema and

> " lactose

> >from milk not coming through in breastmilk " ... to be clear, if a baby is

> >allergic to cow's milk, it is the cow's milk PROTEIN that the baby is

> >allergic to... and if the baby is " lactose intolerant " then it is the

> >lactose that the baby can't handle well. However, the cow's milk PROTEIN

> >does indeed come through the breastmilk-- and so do ALL the hormones from

> >the cows given RGBH... and it can be very distressing to a baby who is

> >allergic. My son is allergic to dairy and I have given up dairy so that

>I

> >can continue to breastfeed. Of course, the baby is NOT allegic to your

> >mother's milk... it is the cow's milk. Indeed, the allergy can produce

> >really bad excema (like my son had)... I found the book SUPERIMMUNITIES

>for

> >KIDS by Leo Galland to be an excellent source of information. I hope

>this

> >is helpful. You might also want to contact La Leche league.

> >

> > >From: " Lashanna Small " <lashannasmall@...>

> > >Reply-Vaccinationsegroups

> > >Vaccinationsegroups

> > >Subject: Re: OT need help w/baby's eczmea

> > >Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2000 15:25:31 GMT

> > >

> > >I read somewhere that lactose from milk does not come through in breast

> > >milk.

> > >

> > >

> > > >From: Sheri Nakken <snakken@...>

> > > >Reply-Vaccinationsegroups

> > > >Vaccinationsegroups

> > > >Subject: Re: OT need help w/baby's eczmea

> > > >Date: Sat, 07 Oct 2000 10:41:37 -0700

> > > >

> > > >Eczema certainly can follow vaccines as vaccine damage - don't know

>if

> > >that

> > > >is your situation.

> > > >Sometimes it is a fatty acid metabolism difficulty - here is from

> >another

> > > >list I am on and it sounds reasonable (and especially if the child is

> > > >vaccinated, making them more at risk to develop it).

> > > >

> > > >Possibly:

> > > > these kids are born with some fatty acid

>metabolism

> > > > abnormalities. Specifically the primary problem

> > >seems

> > > > that they lack the enzyme necissary to convert

> > >linoleic

> > > > acid to gamma linoleic acid(GLA). In the body

> >fatty

> > > > acids are used to make prostaglandins. These,

> >among

> > > > other things, influence inflammatory response.

> >Some

> > > > fatty acids form prostaglandins that enhance

> > > > inflammation while others form those that

>suppress

> > > > inflammation. In a healthy balance, they keep

>each

> > > > other in check, whereas if you are lacking one,

>the

> > > > other is allowed to exert more influence. GLA is

> >one

> > > > that has anti-inflammatory properties so when you

> >are

> > > > deficient, there will be a tendency toward hyper-

> > > > responsiveness & inflammation. You can search

> >PubMed

> > > > for many recent studies where oral GLA

> > >supplementation

> > > > has been demonstrated to alleviate the symptoms

>of

> > > > eczema:

> > >http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >Also allergies - dairy etc - or allergies to what you, if you are

> > > >breastfeeding, are eating.

> > > >

> > > >If none of the above work, homeopathic treatment with a quality

> >classical

> > > >homeopath may be helpful.

> > > >

> > > >I had eczema as a baby and grew out of it at some point. Or, as I've

> > > >learned in homeopathy, it could have disappeared with the use of

> >steroid

> > > >creams (big problems) and worse things started to appear - I had

> >chronic

> > > >tonsilitis and finally and tonsils out (not a good idea from my point

> >of

> > > >view now. From a homeopathic prespective, once you stop a certain

>set

> >of

> > > >symptoms, often worse symptoms will appear. If you want to know more

> > >about

> > > >that I have an article on homeopathy

> > >http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/homeo.htm

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Flaxseed oil is GREAT. I give 1 Tbsp. a day. I call it " special

sauce " and he LOVES it. I don't like the taste and take it in capsule

form... I think that it will definately help the skin. I don't know how old

your baby is and if you are giving solids yet... you could mix the flaxseed

oil with cereal,b ut then you wouldn't know how much of it the baby eats if

the child doesn't finish the cereal.

>From: " Lashanna Small " <lashannasmall@...>

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>Subject: Re: OT need help w/baby's eczmea

>Date: Mon, 09 Oct 2000 19:18:52 GMT

>

>

>Can you supply more information on making a poultice? I breastfeed my

>child. If I include flaxseed oil in my diet, will that help her?

>

> >From: " Balas, ND " <vital4s@...>

> >Reply-Vaccinationsegroups

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> >Subject: Re: OT need help w/baby's eczmea

> >Date: Mon, 9 Oct 2000 03:08:19 -0700

> >

> >It is usually a lack of essential fatty acids or the adrenals aren't

> >producing enough corticosteroids. Try an anti inflammatory herb like

> >yucca.

> >Just make a poultice and place it over the adrenal area or add a little

>bit

> >of it on your finger and place it in his mouth but just a tiny amount.

> >Adding some flax seed oil would help with the EFA's

> >Kim

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> >

> >

> > > My baby is just turning six months old and has always had red dry

> >patches

> >on

> > > his trunk. Now, they seem to be getting worse. They don't seem to

> >bother

> > > him. I know it is eczema because I have had my own problems with it

>in

> >the

> > > past. Can anyone help me with some healing tips. Thanks in advance

> >Jill

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

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I have used organic CALENDULA cream for some bad excema patches. We were

really lucky, I guess, when I gave up dairy and changed our eating habits to

more healthy (organic) foods, the excema has really gone away EXCEPT when

is teething or haas eaten something that he is allergic to... thought

you might like the information on the CAlendula cream-- it worked for us...

>From: " Katrina Cloud " <katrinaj@...>

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>Subject: Re: OT need help w/baby's eczmea

>Date: Wed, 11 Oct 2000 14:04:43 GMT

>

>I saw Blessed Thistle mentioned a few times here and wanted to note that it

>is on the contraindicated list for use during pregnancy. I am not sure why.

>Just wanted to throw that in for anyone who was looking to use it. You

>might

>want to check it out first.

>

>Also, I found a homeopathic remedy creme for exzema, B & T brand I believe,

>called Florisone. I would be wary of using it on very young children (the

> " expert " working that aisle said it was fine) but it worked wonders for my

>daughter. People were saying she looked like a burn victim, with the skin

>across her belly and the insides of her arms, cracked, peeling, oozing and

>bleeding. Each time it would start to heal, she would move and it would

>split and start over again.

>

>In my searches, I found that cortizone and steroid cremes can actually make

>it worse, clearing up the current rash but as soon as you stop using it, it

>comes back as a worse case. Basically, it clears up the symptoms but leaves

>you with the illness. Pretty typical, huh?

>

>For us, we discovered that it was most likely a food allergy to eggs and

>after about a year/year 1/2, she was completely healed and can again eat

>eggs with no problem. During that time, if she ate anything with eggs in

>it,

>she had a flare up.

>

>We used tea tree ointment to help with any infection (which I am pretty

>sure

>she had, as bad as it looked) and then used the florisone cream. I hated to

>use it but it was much better than the alternatives and as long as I was

>dilegent iin applying it for the recomended 3 times a day, it would clear

>her up almost overnight.

>

>Also, using only 100% cotton clothes makes a major difference for both of

>my

>older crackle skin kids and double rinsing helps too. I switched from the

>sensitive skin formula detergents to a brand from the health food store

>with

>amazing results.

>

>One last thing, I read recently that you should NEVER use lanolin on

>exzema.

>I admit, I use it on my son from time to time (the tube kind that nursing

>women use for cracked nipples). I have never noticed a problem, other that

>him smelling like a barn afterwards :), but you might want to do a search

>for more info.

>

>Good luck! Exzema sucks.

>

>Katrina

>

>

>

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