Re: I travel with my Relegious Exemption Letter.....

[Guest guest]

Gee, I knew what my rights are and did what I was suppose to do and my son

was still denied admittance. I think what it all boils down to is not so

much Ignorance of the law, but how much a parent knows about the law to

pursue the matter in court, or how much money a parent has to pay a lawyer

to do it for them. The school and board members ignore the law until they

get a call from a lawyer. I plan to bring my son back to school with a

member of the press and watch them physically PUT HIM OUT because he's a

threat to public safety.

Re: I travel with my Relegious Exemption Letter.....

>In a message dated 11/12/00 11:55:59 AM Central Standard Time,

>bluheron@... writes:

>

><< Referring to #1 no state can REQUIRE vaccines, period. If this is true

why

> are 900 kids kept out of school in NYC

> and 200 in Syracuse and 77 threatened to have their kids taken from them

> for neglect in Utica and 200 in Buffalo being kept out of schools?? >>

>

>Well, lots of people don't know their rights. The vaccine mandates, as

>Sherri explained, is a SCHOOL BOARD issue. the state can set guidelines in

>accordance with those issues, but they can NOT dictate that you HAVE to

have

>chemicals shot into you in any way, shape or form, unless you have been

>declared incompetent to make such a decision. Additionally, you are

entitled

>to public schooling. How do they get away with it? Simple, scare

tactics.

>Those people in Utica need to hire a good constitutional lawyer, and there

>are a few. One simple way to solve it is pull your kid out of school, of

>couse, I would regard this as passive, I myself prefer the stand up and be

>counted methods - whereby other people would see the situation and go

> " hmmmm? " .

>

>Here is an example, non-vaccine, but you can see that the state can only

>force you to do so much (and actually, they can't force you to do anything

>unless it infringes on others' rights)... My mother went into cardiac

arrest

>in June. I took her to emergency where it was determined that her lungs

were

>failing. They needed to intubate her before they could administer any

tests

>or drugs. She refused. They complied. All it was, was a tube to bring

her

>oxygen up to 80% or better. They felt, that because she had answered the

>questions (2 of them) correctly and in an apparent coherent manner, that

her

>wishes were to just suffocate right there. It took me 2 hours to convince

>them that they needed to ask the right questions in order to determine

>whether she understood what they were saying. Finally, an intern went back

>and talked to her -- and, as I suspected, realized that she thought they

were

>going to put her on life support. However, the issue is: they withheld

>treatment, because oxygen in this situation was a drug, something

>manufactured which must be administered (as opposed to air), and therefore,

>she had the right to refuse, irregardless of the outcome. Had she been

>unconscious when I took her in, they would have let me decide.

>

>I think Sherri can explain better what happened in Utica- but usually, when

>peoples' rights are stepped on, it means they didn't follow proper

>administrative procedure to ensure those rights. It can be very

complicated,

>and if you mistep, you buy the boat, so to speak.

>

>One other thing that I found when perusing our statutes... Some of these

> " laws " are not laws at all (enacted by the state senate by vote), they are

>actually guidelines set up by the various state departments (such as

health).

> There are a lot of things you must research and read. Never assume that

>just because someone said it's the law, that 1. it is, or that 2. it must

be

>followed. One of the basic rights of juries, for instance, that never gets

>brought up, is that they are to determine if the law supposedly broken, was

>broken, and if so, was it a just law?

>

>Our school system has sent home two flyers this year. Both said " Vaccinate

>your children. Save them from possible death. It's the law " . Big lie.

>Big, big, lie. And I have letters into the Attorney General concerning the

>language (veiled threats) used to get parents in to do something they may

not

>want to do -- but because they don't know their rights, they will because

>education is important. Very few people in this state know that they don't

>have to vaccinate their kids. And because the system received federal

>funding, the school can't require it either. Private schools which are not

>federally funded are another matter.

>

>

>

>

>

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In a message dated 11/11/00 12:16:23 PM Eastern Standard Time,

georgic@... writes:

<< Vaccines are your own philosophical belief. >>

They might be, but that doesn't mean they are going to be recognized by

others. If you end up in an ER, unplanned, having your child's exemption on

you, notarized, will save a lot of headaches.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/11/00 11:44:25 AM Central Standard Time,

sandym@... writes:

<< It is only a legal instrument in the U.S. and only if a state accepts

religious exemptions, >>

It is a legal instrument if you are a citizen of the state in which you are

claiming the exemption, and all other states must abide by that. We are

citizens of our state, not the Federal government. Therefore, each state can

legislate for it's residents only. For instance, I am in Minnesota where I

have the right to choose. If we end up in some state, say Wisconsin (which

is conceivable, and I don't know their law there, this is just for

discussion's sake), and we have to go to the hospital, it doesn't matter what

Wisconsin law says. Because I am a citizen of Minnesota and therefore, they

must abide by my rights in that state. this follows for other issues, such

as marriage. A marriage may be legal in one state, but not in another. So,

if you were legally married in one state and move to a state where your

marriage may not be recognized, that state must recognize your marriage,

because you were legally married in the state in which you resided at the

time (don't ask me about las vegas). As long as you are NOT a resident of

the state, they can not dictate certain things to you. They can tell you how

to drive (no right turns on red, etc.), but that's about it. When you're a

visitor, you are allowed to stick to your personal issue guns. In a

nutshell, and I don't think I explained that too well.

My point is, carrying an exemption letter with a notarized statement of

residence is probably a very good idea. It gives notice that you are not

bound by their laws, as you are a temporary visitor, and it tells them what

your personal feelings are in a matter of emergency. I think, just because

of this, I'm going to get the state form and fill it out for us. Just in

case. You never know.

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/11/00 12:07:17 PM Central Standard Time, moira@...

writes:

<< Sheri, my older (NT) son's friend asked him to join the Boy Scouts and gave

my son an application form........on the form was a big chart to put your

vaccinations.....I told my son we did not need to join!!!

>>

This is an organizational thing. It isn't dictated by state law. My

daughter received one as well for Brownies. I wrote on it " Philosophical

Exemption - we do not vaccinate " . And it was fine. The area leaders could

not even tell me what the reason for the request was (I'm sure there is one,

they've just been so indoctrinated, they don't know off hand).

carol peterson

[Guest guest]

Do you have ant suggestions about books on learning Homeopathic first aid?

[Guest guest]

My guess is that carrying a religious exemption out of the country has to be irrelevant. It is only a legal instrument in the U.S. and only if a state accepts religious exemptions, and only if the exemption conforms to the intent of the law of that state.

I suppose it doesn't hurt to have - it might create the impression that the power of the U.S. or at least a U.S. state backs it up. But unless you think they will refuse to treat you, I can't imagine a foreign country would force you to vaccinate. Could they deport you?

Although I agree with Phyllis that we should be prepared, sometimes there are real emergencies, so it doesn't hurt to have a legal strategy to deal with such things. Anyone? Sandy

[Guest guest]

At 12:11 PM 11/11/2000 -0500, you wrote:

> Stay out of their " grip " and your have not " diff. "

>When you travel they ae only look at the vaccines that you have had if

>there is an issue with that disease in the area from which you are " coming

>from " not " going to " .

No one has ever asked to see anything about vaccinations and I travel all

over the world all the time!

--------------------------------------------------------

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Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA

530-272-7306

http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm

" All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men ( &

women) do nothing " ...Edmund Burke

ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE

DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE.

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[Guest guest]

I will remind everyone these are exemptions from school laws - THERE ARE NO

laws saying you have to vaccinate your infant or anyone else. The laws are

tied to school attendance. And of course there are exemptions in every

state (vary)

--------------------------------------------------------

Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA

Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA

530-272-7306

http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm

" All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men ( &

women) do nothing " ...Edmund Burke

ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE

DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE.

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http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin

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Education, Homeopathic Education

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[Guest guest]

What if I live in a state that recognizes a personal exemption as well as

medical and religious but am travelling in a state that only accepts

religious and medical exemptions? I am refferring specifically to Illinois

and I know that that is one state that considers its rules superior to any

parents judgement. Any advice orexperience with states like this?

Thanks

Sam

[Guest guest]

At 10:02 AM 11/11/2000 -0800, you wrote:

>Sheri, my older (NT) son's friend asked him to join the Boy Scouts and gave

>my son an application form........on the form was a big chart to put your

>vaccinations.....I told my son we did not need to join!!!

What?? They were saying it was required???

Sheri

>

>

>>I will remind everyone these are exemptions from school laws - THERE ARE NO

>>laws saying you have to vaccinate your infant or anyone else. The laws are

>>tied to school attendance. And of course there are exemptions in every

>>state (vary)

>>--------------------------------------------------------

>>

>

>

>

>

>

>

--------------------------------------------------------

Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA

Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA

530-272-7306

http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm

" All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men ( &

women) do nothing " ...Edmund Burke

ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE

DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE.

Well Within's Earth Mysteries & Sacred Site Tours

http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin

International Tours, Homestudy Courses, ANTHRAX & OTHER Vaccine Dangers

Education, Homeopathic Education

KVMR Broadcaster/Programmer/Investigative Reporter, Nevada City CA

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[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/11/00 6:14:15 PM Central Standard Time, SamHou1@...

writes:

<< I am refferring specifically to Illinois

and I know that that is one state that considers its rules superior to any

parents judgement. Any advice orexperience with states like this? >>

I'm not a legal expert, but, #1, as Sherri stated, no state can REQUIRE

vaccines period. #2, If you are a resident of Minnesota, it doesn't matter

what Illinois thinks of their parents' judgment abilities -- the only thing

you have to worry about is what Minnesota thinks of your abilities. And if,

as a CITIZEN of Minnesota you have the right, whether religious,

philosophical or otherwise, to not vaccinate. That is your right, no matter

what state you're traveling in. Illinois can not take your rights away, just

because you happen to be visiting, as long as those rights don't infringe on

the rights of others who are under their jurisdiction. I don't think

vaccination of your children qualifies, and if they think it does, they'd

have a heck of a time proving it in court (actually, I'd like to see that

one).

[Guest guest]

At 07:13 PM 11/11/2000 EST, you wrote:

>What if I live in a state that recognizes a personal exemption as well as

>medical and religious but am travelling in a state that only accepts

>religious and medical exemptions? I am refferring specifically to Illinois

>and I know that that is one state that considers its rules superior to any

>parents judgement. Any advice orexperience with states like this?

>Thanks

>Sam

>

I will say it AGAIN! The law is only for school attendance NOT for life

and living and traveling and existing.

ONLY FOR SCHOOL ATTENDANCE. That is what the exemptions are for.

--------------------------------------------------------

Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA

Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA

530-272-7306

http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm

" All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men ( &

women) do nothing " ...Edmund Burke

ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE

DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE.

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Education, Homeopathic Education

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[Guest guest]

Sheri, But what about what happened in Utica? Weren't the parents

threatened, even though they had taken their children out of school? Sandy

[Guest guest]

Sheri, And the idea that they could threaten - even if there was no basis

for their threat - resulted in people vaccinating their children who would

not, apparently, have done so otherwise.

I'm still confused, however, about the need for those parents to have

provided any information, if they had removed them from school. Maybe it's

just been a long day..... Sandy

[Guest guest]

At 06:35 PM 11/11/2000 -0900, you wrote:

>Sheri, But what about what happened in Utica? Weren't the parents

>threatened, even though they had taken their children out of school? Sandy

>

>

It appears they didn't vaccinate NOR did they supply the school with the

exemption as required. Therefore they weren't allowed in school which is

appropriate according to the law.

This should never be happening in a free country, but it was the law.

But to report them to CPS, is another issue that is serious. Yes, it can

happen. We need to get rid of the exemptions totally.

Still there is no law that says if you don't vaccinate you should have your

children taken away. People have got to get up in arms about this and I

don't see that happening. I don't see very many people doing much about

this. That is why I say ALL of us have to get active!

This will only get worse.

Sheri

--------------------------------------------------------

Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA

Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA

530-272-7306

http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm

" All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men ( &

women) do nothing " ...Edmund Burke

ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE

DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE.

Well Within's Earth Mysteries & Sacred Site Tours

http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin

International Tours, Homestudy Courses, ANTHRAX & OTHER Vaccine Dangers

Education, Homeopathic Education

KVMR Broadcaster/Programmer/Investigative Reporter, Nevada City CA

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[Guest guest]

I don't know the specifics of the case you've mentioned, but I can

say how our state has handled this - maybe this will give some

insight. Although I homeschool my children here in Montana, the

state law requires that I maintain immunization records and, in

addition to attendance records, I must be prepared to present this

information upon request to the county school superintendant. Maybe

this is the loophole that states use to scare us into immunizing our

children. I am working on a religious exemption letter that I will

maintain on file should I ever need to provide this to the county.

> I'm still confused, however, about the need for those parents to

have provided any information, if they had removed them from school.

[Guest guest]

At 07:12 PM 11/11/2000 -0900, you wrote:

>Sheri, And the idea that they could threaten - even if there was no basis

>for their threat - resulted in people vaccinating their children who would

>not, apparently, have done so otherwise.

>

>I'm still confused, however, about the need for those parents to have

>provided any information, if they had removed them from school. Maybe it's

>just been a long day..... Sandy

>

No, they hadn't removed them from school. From what I understand they

hadn't gotten the vaccine and the SCHOOL removed them from school.

--------------------------------------------------------

Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA

Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA

530-272-7306

http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm

" All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men ( &

women) do nothing " ...Edmund Burke

ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE

DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE.

Well Within's Earth Mysteries & Sacred Site Tours

http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin

International Tours, Homestudy Courses, ANTHRAX & OTHER Vaccine Dangers

Education, Homeopathic Education

KVMR Broadcaster/Programmer/Investigative Reporter, Nevada City CA

CEU's for nurses, Books & Multi-Pure Water Filters

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 11/12/00 11:55:59 AM Central Standard Time,

bluheron@... writes:

<< Referring to #1 no state can REQUIRE vaccines, period. If this is true why

are 900 kids kept out of school in NYC

and 200 in Syracuse and 77 threatened to have their kids taken from them

for neglect in Utica and 200 in Buffalo being kept out of schools?? >>

Well, lots of people don't know their rights. The vaccine mandates, as

Sherri explained, is a SCHOOL BOARD issue. the state can set guidelines in

accordance with those issues, but they can NOT dictate that you HAVE to have

chemicals shot into you in any way, shape or form, unless you have been

declared incompetent to make such a decision. Additionally, you are entitled

to public schooling. How do they get away with it? Simple, scare tactics.

Those people in Utica need to hire a good constitutional lawyer, and there

are a few. One simple way to solve it is pull your kid out of school, of

couse, I would regard this as passive, I myself prefer the stand up and be

counted methods - whereby other people would see the situation and go

" hmmmm? " .

Here is an example, non-vaccine, but you can see that the state can only

force you to do so much (and actually, they can't force you to do anything

unless it infringes on others' rights)... My mother went into cardiac arrest

in June. I took her to emergency where it was determined that her lungs were

failing. They needed to intubate her before they could administer any tests

or drugs. She refused. They complied. All it was, was a tube to bring her

oxygen up to 80% or better. They felt, that because she had answered the

questions (2 of them) correctly and in an apparent coherent manner, that her

wishes were to just suffocate right there. It took me 2 hours to convince

them that they needed to ask the right questions in order to determine

whether she understood what they were saying. Finally, an intern went back

and talked to her -- and, as I suspected, realized that she thought they were

going to put her on life support. However, the issue is: they withheld

treatment, because oxygen in this situation was a drug, something

manufactured which must be administered (as opposed to air), and therefore,

she had the right to refuse, irregardless of the outcome. Had she been

unconscious when I took her in, they would have let me decide.

I think Sherri can explain better what happened in Utica- but usually, when

peoples' rights are stepped on, it means they didn't follow proper

administrative procedure to ensure those rights. It can be very complicated,

and if you mistep, you buy the boat, so to speak.

One other thing that I found when perusing our statutes... Some of these

" laws " are not laws at all (enacted by the state senate by vote), they are

actually guidelines set up by the various state departments (such as health).

There are a lot of things you must research and read. Never assume that

just because someone said it's the law, that 1. it is, or that 2. it must be

followed. One of the basic rights of juries, for instance, that never gets

brought up, is that they are to determine if the law supposedly broken, was

broken, and if so, was it a just law?

Our school system has sent home two flyers this year. Both said " Vaccinate

your children. Save them from possible death. It's the law " . Big lie.

Big, big, lie. And I have letters into the Attorney General concerning the

language (veiled threats) used to get parents in to do something they may not

want to do -- but because they don't know their rights, they will because

education is important. Very few people in this state know that they don't

have to vaccinate their kids. And because the system received federal

funding, the school can't require it either. Private schools which are not

federally funded are another matter.

[Guest guest]

Thanks Sheri for the clarification about the Utica situation. Sandy

[Guest guest]

Actually Sheri, now I have another question about Utica, which you will

probably be able to answer. Did the parents vaccinate their children

because they were threatened, or because they had decided they wanted their

children back in school, and would not be allowed to return without

vaccinating? Sandy

[Guest guest]

At 07:17 AM 11/12/2000 -0900, you wrote:

>Actually Sheri, now I have another question about Utica, which you will

>probably be able to answer. Did the parents vaccinate their children

>because they were threatened, or because they had decided they wanted their

>children back in school, and would not be allowed to return without

>vaccinating? Sandy

>

>

I don't know if we know what happened - I've been gone and haven't gotten

thru all my emails. Did anymore come out about this. All I know is a

bunch hadn't gotten the vax and had been thrown out of school and

threatened with CPS.

--------------------------------------------------------

Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA

Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA

530-272-7306

http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm

" All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men ( &

women) do nothing " ...Edmund Burke

ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE

DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE.

Well Within's Earth Mysteries & Sacred Site Tours

http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin

International Tours, Homestudy Courses, ANTHRAX & OTHER Vaccine Dangers

Education, Homeopathic Education

KVMR Broadcaster/Programmer/Investigative Reporter, Nevada City CA

CEU's for nurses, Books & Multi-Pure Water Filters

[Guest guest]

they can't force you to do anything

> unless it infringes on others' rights)...

Therein lies the rub. The public health argument, with which I do NOT agree

for many reasons, is that not vaccinating DOES infringe on others' rights.

They have successfully argued this and I believe it is the basis for

mandating vaccines.

Sandy

[Guest guest]

All VERY well said.

>

>Well, lots of people don't know their rights. The vaccine mandates, as

>Sherri explained, is a SCHOOL BOARD issue.

Actually not the school board - but the state law.

the state can set guidelines in

>accordance with those issues, but they can NOT dictate that you HAVE to have

>chemicals shot into you in any way, shape or form, unless you have been

>declared incompetent to make such a decision. Additionally, you are

entitled

>to public schooling. How do they get away with it? Simple, scare

tactics.

>Those people in Utica need to hire a good constitutional lawyer, and there

>are a few. One simple way to solve it is pull your kid out of school, of

>couse, I would regard this as passive, I myself prefer the stand up and be

>counted methods - whereby other people would see the situation and go

> " hmmmm? " .

>

>Here is an example, non-vaccine, but you can see that the state can only

>force you to do so much (and actually, they can't force you to do anything

>unless it infringes on others' rights)... My mother went into cardiac

arrest

>in June. I took her to emergency where it was determined that her lungs

were

>failing. They needed to intubate her before they could administer any tests

>or drugs. She refused. They complied. All it was, was a tube to bring her

>oxygen up to 80% or better. They felt, that because she had answered the

>questions (2 of them) correctly and in an apparent coherent manner, that her

>wishes were to just suffocate right there. It took me 2 hours to convince

>them that they needed to ask the right questions in order to determine

>whether she understood what they were saying. Finally, an intern went back

>and talked to her -- and, as I suspected, realized that she thought they

were

>going to put her on life support. However, the issue is: they withheld

>treatment, because oxygen in this situation was a drug, something

>manufactured which must be administered (as opposed to air), and therefore,

>she had the right to refuse, irregardless of the outcome. Had she been

>unconscious when I took her in, they would have let me decide.

>

>I think Sherri can explain better what happened in Utica- but usually, when

>peoples' rights are stepped on, it means they didn't follow proper

>administrative procedure to ensure those rights. It can be very

complicated,

>and if you mistep, you buy the boat, so to speak.

>

>One other thing that I found when perusing our statutes... Some of these

> " laws " are not laws at all (enacted by the state senate by vote), they are

>actually guidelines set up by the various state departments (such as

health).

> There are a lot of things you must research and read. Never assume that

>just because someone said it's the law, that 1. it is, or that 2. it must be

>followed. One of the basic rights of juries, for instance, that never gets

>brought up, is that they are to determine if the law supposedly broken, was

>broken, and if so, was it a just law?

>

>Our school system has sent home two flyers this year. Both said " Vaccinate

>your children. Save them from possible death. It's the law " . Big lie.

>Big, big, lie. And I have letters into the Attorney General concerning the

>language (veiled threats) used to get parents in to do something they may

not

>want to do -- but because they don't know their rights, they will because

>education is important. Very few people in this state know that they don't

>have to vaccinate their kids. And because the system received federal

>funding, the school can't require it either. Private schools which are not

>federally funded are another matter.

>

>

>

>

>

--------------------------------------------------------

Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA

Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA

530-272-7306

http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm

" All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men ( &

women) do nothing " ...Edmund Burke

ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE

DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE.

Well Within's Earth Mysteries & Sacred Site Tours

http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin

International Tours, Homestudy Courses, ANTHRAX & OTHER Vaccine Dangers

Education, Homeopathic Education

KVMR Broadcaster/Programmer/Investigative Reporter, Nevada City CA

CEU's for nurses, Books & Multi-Pure Water Filters

[Guest guest]

Referring to #1 no state can REQUIRE vaccines, period. If this is true why

are 900 kids kept out of school in NYC

and 200 in Syracuse and 77 threatened to have their kids taken from them

for neglect in Utica and 200 in Buffalo being kept out of schools??

Re: I travel with my Relegious Exemption Letter.....

> In a message dated 11/11/00 6:14:15 PM Central Standard Time,

SamHou1@...

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> << I am refferring specifically to Illinois

> and I know that that is one state that considers its rules superior to

any

> parents judgement. Any advice orexperience with states like this? >>

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> I'm not a legal expert, but, #1, as Sherri stated, no state can REQUIRE

> vaccines period. #2, If you are a resident of Minnesota, it doesn't

matter

> what Illinois thinks of their parents' judgment abilities -- the only

thing

> you have to worry about is what Minnesota thinks of your abilities. And

if,

> as a CITIZEN of Minnesota you have the right, whether religious,

> philosophical or otherwise, to not vaccinate. That is your right, no

matter

> what state you're traveling in. Illinois can not take your rights away,

just

> because you happen to be visiting, as long as those rights don't infringe

on

> the rights of others who are under their jurisdiction. I don't think

> vaccination of your children qualifies, and if they think it does, they'd

> have a heck of a time proving it in court (actually, I'd like to see that

> one).

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My response would be, MY doctor has a copy of my exemption at my

home town..he/she accepts it so you can check with him/her.

Re: I travel with my Relegious Exemption Letter.....

> What if I live in a state that recognizes a personal exemption as well as

> medical and religious but am travelling in a state that only accepts

> religious and medical exemptions? I am refferring specifically to Illinois

> and I know that that is one state that considers its rules superior to any

> parents judgement. Any advice orexperience with states like this?

> Thanks

> Sam

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