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Hello Group!

There has been a lot talk about switching from Neurontin to Topamax. My

doctor is trying this with me. I am now down to 900mg of Neurontin a day

(from 3600mg a day) and up to 300mg of Topamax a day. I am also on

Amitriptyline that was just increased to 100mg at night. I found out that

these two medications have an interaction with each other. Does anyone know

of this and have any reaction to it? Since these changes to my medications,

I have been having a lot of problems with my mouth. I have swollen/bruised

gums, canker sores and blisters. My teeth are also very sore to the point

that I am having a lot of pain when I eat. I have asked my doctor (the one

who did the SCS and prescribed the Topamax) about this and he does not feel

the Amitriptyline has anything to do with it. I am confused and frustrated.

Can anyone shed any light on the effects of Topamax, Amitriptyline etc.

Thanks.

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Hi, Sorry you are having so much trouble with your meds. Unfortunately,

since we all take so much ... we tend to have many problems, reactions,

allergic reactions, side effects, and bad interactions between meds. I Was

on Neorintin, but with 2 weeks, I was so confused, I couldn't figure out how

to get in my car, why I walked into a room, and so on. They thankfully

weaned me off. But, I have been taking Amityrptline for a long long time. It

was given to me about 6 years ago from my neuro-surgeon after they did a

triple discectomy in my cervical spine. I had very bad muscle spasms in my

neck, they had put a titanium plate and 8 screws in there and I just had

allot of problems. Anyway, now, since the last two years of horror, RSD and

implants and so on, my Pain med specialist Dr. that did the implant of my

SCS, they increased the amitryptoline. We all know that it causes

unbelievably sever dry mouth, canker sores and... My primary care DR says

the same thing, even my Podiatrist, who did allot of the surgery to repair

my foot know that.

So talk to your Dr. again. It causes all kinds of mouth problems. There are

toothpastes, mouthwashes, gums and other things that help a little, that are

specifically for this particular problem. Talk to you pharmacist, they can

also help!

Hope you feel better soon,

Amy

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Hi all, I have a question about teeth. Has anyone had problems with rotting

teeth from all the years of narcs and the other meds that are taken with them? I

guess Im asking because over the last two years my " meth mouth " has gotten so

much worse. Within the last year alone two of my visable teeth have broken off

while chewing on ice(thanks to my super dry mouth) and once while brushing my

teeth. In my case the odds arent my-werent my only problem. Having braces for 5

years then not having the cement taken completely off(never having a single

cavity before then.), and then there is my super fear of the dentist(yes, I know

its silly). I dont know, Im really upset by the whole thing. I wish my first doc

would have told me all of the possible cruddy(is that a word?) things that could

have and would happen, I should have been better at research, maybe asking more

questions would have been beneficial. I could go on with the shouldas/wouldas

all day, but it wont help me now.

Anyway Thanks For Reading This Far. JC:)

[awren@...] wrote:

Hi, Sorry you are having so much trouble with your meds. Unfortunately,

since we all take so much ... we tend to have many problems, reactions,

allergic reactions, side effects, and bad interactions between meds. I Was

on Neorintin, but with 2 weeks, I was so confused, I couldn't figure out how

to get in my car, why I walked into a room, and so on. They thankfully

weaned me off. But, I have been taking Amityrptline for a long long time. It

was given to me about 6 years ago from my neuro-surgeon after they did a

triple discectomy in my cervical spine. I had very bad muscle spasms in my

neck, they had put a titanium plate and 8 screws in there and I just had

allot of problems. Anyway, now, since the last two years of horror, RSD and

implants and so on, my Pain med specialist Dr. that did the implant of my

SCS, they increased the amitryptoline. We all know that it causes

unbelievably sever dry mouth, canker sores and... My primary care DR says

the same thing, even my Podiatrist, who did allot of the surgery to repair

my foot know that.

So talk to your Dr. again. It causes all kinds of mouth problems. There are

toothpastes, mouthwashes, gums and other things that help a little, that are

specifically for this particular problem. Talk to you pharmacist, they can

also help!

Hope you feel better soon,

Amy

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Amy,

Amitriptyline can cause all kinds of mouth problems??? I was just increased

from 50 mg to 100mg. I am trying figure out if it's the Topamax or the

Amitriptyline. I am so confused.

Thanks!

_____

From: Stimulator [mailto:Stimulator ] On

Behalf Of Amy Wren

Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 3:22 PM

Stimulator

Subject: RE: drug interactions with Topamax

Hi, Sorry you are having so much trouble with your meds. Unfortunately,

since we all take so much ... we tend to have many problems, reactions,

allergic reactions, side effects, and bad interactions between meds. I Was

on Neorintin, but with 2 weeks, I was so confused, I couldn't figure out how

to get in my car, why I walked into a room, and so on. They thankfully

weaned me off. But, I have been taking Amityrptline for a long long time. It

was given to me about 6 years ago from my neuro-surgeon after they did a

triple discectomy in my cervical spine. I had very bad muscle spasms in my

neck, they had put a titanium plate and 8 screws in there and I just had

allot of problems. Anyway, now, since the last two years of horror, RSD and

implants and so on, my Pain med specialist Dr. that did the implant of my

SCS, they increased the amitryptoline. We all know that it causes

unbelievably sever dry mouth, canker sores and... My primary care DR says

the same thing, even my Podiatrist, who did allot of the surgery to repair

my foot know that.

So talk to your Dr. again. It causes all kinds of mouth problems. There are

toothpastes, mouthwashes, gums and other things that help a little, that are

specifically for this particular problem. Talk to you pharmacist, they can

also help!

Hope you feel better soon,

Amy

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Hi ,

A lot of our meds can cause dry mouth, but elavil(amatriptaline) is

or can be awful. I took it for many years too. I had to use a dry

mouth gel that I got from CVS all day and at night too. I also got

dry eyes from it. I had a lot of tooth problems, cavities and

sensitive teeth from the elavil too. The dentist suggested I get

something for the dry mouth and to use flouride rinse too. There are

a lot of products like Amy said. Just look in the drug store for

them. I didn't think the sprays worked as well as the gels tho.

Take care,

Ruth

-- In Stimulator , " " <purplebutterfly1@...>

wrote:

>

> Amy,

>

> Amitriptyline can cause all kinds of mouth problems??? I was just

increased

> from 50 mg to 100mg. I am trying figure out if it's the Topamax or

the

> Amitriptyline. I am so confused.

>

> Thanks!

>

>

>

>

>

> _____

>

> From: Stimulator

[mailto:Stimulator ] On

> Behalf Of Amy Wren

> Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 3:22 PM

> Stimulator

> Subject: RE: drug interactions with Topamax

>

>

>

> Hi, Sorry you are having so much trouble with your meds.

Unfortunately,

> since we all take so much ... we tend to have many problems,

reactions,

> allergic reactions, side effects, and bad interactions between

meds. I Was

> on Neorintin, but with 2 weeks, I was so confused, I couldn't

figure out how

> to get in my car, why I walked into a room, and so on. They

thankfully

> weaned me off. But, I have been taking Amityrptline for a long long

time. It

> was given to me about 6 years ago from my neuro-surgeon after they

did a

> triple discectomy in my cervical spine. I had very bad muscle

spasms in my

> neck, they had put a titanium plate and 8 screws in there and I

just had

> allot of problems. Anyway, now, since the last two years of horror,

RSD and

> implants and so on, my Pain med specialist Dr. that did the implant

of my

> SCS, they increased the amitryptoline. We all know that it causes

> unbelievably sever dry mouth, canker sores and... My primary care

DR says

> the same thing, even my Podiatrist, who did allot of the surgery to

repair

> my foot know that.

>

> So talk to your Dr. again. It causes all kinds of mouth problems.

There are

> toothpastes, mouthwashes, gums and other things that help a little,

that are

> specifically for this particular problem. Talk to you pharmacist,

they can

> also help!

>

> Hope you feel better soon,

> Amy

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Hey ,

Sorry you are having so much trouble. I hope I can help in some way.

Amytiptoline is a MAJOR cause of mouth problems. You'll notice that about 30

minutes after you take it that your tongue starts to get dry and thick. Then

it spreads thru your whole mouth and lips. It can cause sores, cracked lips,

fever blisters, etc. Every one of my doctors have always warned me about

that. Crest just came out with a wash, I think it is called Oasis, But there

are lots of different product that are primarily for this problem. Call your

pharmacist, they will know what I am talking about. Hope this helps. Let me

know how you are doing.

Amy

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Ruth,

Thanks for the information. My mother suggested a using a fluoride rinse

which also helps with sensitive teeth. I wasn't sure what the problem was

at this time. So I have been using the rinse and sensadyne toothpaste. I

haven't noticed any dry mouth from Amitriptyline. I took my last pill of

the Topamax tonight. So hopefully things will improve. I have noticed that

the three nights only taking one at bed time my mouth as felt better. I

think I will still check at the pharmacy or other things to help the

soreness to heal faster.

As far as my cholesterol and Triglycerides, I went to my doctor today to

discuss my blood results. I am going to see a nutritionist to see if there

is anything that I can change with my diet prior to medication. I have to

redo my blood test in 3-6 months. She said that I was not at risk of

anything at this time. So, we will see what happens. The other thing, she

gave me a prescription for medication to quit smoking. I need to do

research on it before I get it filled. Where to do you go on the internet

to get your information?

How is your abdominal pain doing? Have they found out what is causing it?

How is Pat feeling? Did he/you get his insurance straightened out?

Well I hope things are improving for your & Pat.

One day at a time!

Make it a great day!

_____

From: Stimulator [mailto:Stimulator ] On

Behalf Of Ruth

Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 1:22 PM

Stimulator

Subject: Re: drug interactions with Topamax

Hi ,

A lot of our meds can cause dry mouth, but elavil(amatriptaline) is

or can be awful. I took it for many years too. I had to use a dry

mouth gel that I got from CVS all day and at night too. I also got

dry eyes from it. I had a lot of tooth problems, cavities and

sensitive teeth from the elavil too. The dentist suggested I get

something for the dry mouth and to use flouride rinse too. There are

a lot of products like Amy said. Just look in the drug store for

them. I didn't think the sprays worked as well as the gels tho.

Take care,

Ruth

-- In Stimulator@gro <mailto:Stimulator%40> ups.com,

" " <purplebutterfly1@...>

wrote:

>

> Amy,

>

> Amitriptyline can cause all kinds of mouth problems??? I was just

increased

> from 50 mg to 100mg. I am trying figure out if it's the Topamax or

the

> Amitriptyline. I am so confused.

>

> Thanks!

>

>

>

>

>

> _____

>

> From: Stimulator@gro <mailto:Stimulator%40> ups.com

[mailto:Stimulator@gro <mailto:Stimulator%40> ups.com]

On

> Behalf Of Amy Wren

> Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 3:22 PM

> Stimulator@gro <mailto:Stimulator%40> ups.com

> Subject: RE: drug interactions with Topamax

>

>

>

> Hi, Sorry you are having so much trouble with your meds.

Unfortunately,

> since we all take so much ... we tend to have many problems,

reactions,

> allergic reactions, side effects, and bad interactions between

meds. I Was

> on Neorintin, but with 2 weeks, I was so confused, I couldn't

figure out how

> to get in my car, why I walked into a room, and so on. They

thankfully

> weaned me off. But, I have been taking Amityrptline for a long long

time. It

> was given to me about 6 years ago from my neuro-surgeon after they

did a

> triple discectomy in my cervical spine. I had very bad muscle

spasms in my

> neck, they had put a titanium plate and 8 screws in there and I

just had

> allot of problems. Anyway, now, since the last two years of horror,

RSD and

> implants and so on, my Pain med specialist Dr. that did the implant

of my

> SCS, they increased the amitryptoline. We all know that it causes

> unbelievably sever dry mouth, canker sores and... My primary care

DR says

> the same thing, even my Podiatrist, who did allot of the surgery to

repair

> my foot know that.

>

> So talk to your Dr. again. It causes all kinds of mouth problems.

There are

> toothpastes, mouthwashes, gums and other things that help a little,

that are

> specifically for this particular problem. Talk to you pharmacist,

they can

> also help!

>

> Hope you feel better soon,

> Amy

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Amy

Thank you for your information.

I have not had any dry mouth with Amitriptyline

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From: Stimulator [mailto:Stimulator ] On

Behalf Of Amy Wren

Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 1:26 PM

Stimulator

Subject: RE: drug interactions with Topamax

Hey ,

Sorry you are having so much trouble. I hope I can help in some way.

Amytiptoline is a MAJOR cause of mouth problems. You'll notice that about 30

minutes after you take it that your tongue starts to get dry and thick. Then

it spreads thru your whole mouth and lips. It can cause sores, cracked lips,

fever blisters, etc. Every one of my doctors have always warned me about

that. Crest just came out with a wash, I think it is called Oasis, But there

are lots of different product that are primarily for this problem. Call your

pharmacist, they will know what I am talking about. Hope this helps. Let me

know how you are doing.

Amy

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I take topamax and Amitriptyline together and I don't have any

problems, that's not to say other people don't have problems taking

them together. I don't know if my idea as to why you are having

problems with your mouth has any merit to it, but I figured I would

put it out there. Amitriptyline is none to cause a dry mouth. Then

you have Neurontin and Topamax which are both anti-seizure drugs.

Anti-seizure drugs are known to cause horrible teeth problems. They

can cause dry mouthes, rotting of the teeth, cavities, etc. It is

very important when you are on these to go to the dentist regularly

and to floss and brush you teeth constantly. I was also told to use

a mouth wash with floride to help prevent dekay. My dentist also

recommended I try the over the counter mouth washes to help with the

dry mouth but none of the seemed to do much. Maybe since you are

still on a high dose of neurontin, on a pretty decent dose of

topamax, and on the amitriptyline all at the same time all of them

together are causing the problem. If you are having a problem with

dry mouth my ear, nose and throat doctor just recommended this new

medicine to me called Evoxac. I take 30mg 3 times a day and it works

great. My mouth hasn't been dry in weeks its wonderful. Anyway,

good luck I hope it all works out for you.

Jaci

On Sep 22, 2006, at 9:17 AM, wrote:

> Hello Group!

>

> There has been a lot talk about switching from Neurontin to

> Topamax. My

> doctor is trying this with me. I am now down to 900mg of Neurontin

> a day

> (from 3600mg a day) and up to 300mg of Topamax a day. I am also on

> Amitriptyline that was just increased to 100mg at night. I found

> out that

> these two medications have an interaction with each other. Does

> anyone know

> of this and have any reaction to it? Since these changes to my

> medications,

> I have been having a lot of problems with my mouth. I have swollen/

> bruised

> gums, canker sores and blisters. My teeth are also very sore to the

> point

> that I am having a lot of pain when I eat. I have asked my doctor

> (the one

> who did the SCS and prescribed the Topamax) about this and he does

> not feel

> the Amitriptyline has anything to do with it. I am confused and

> frustrated.

> Can anyone shed any light on the effects of Topamax, Amitriptyline

> etc.

>

> Thanks.

>

>

>

>

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Thank you Jaci! I appreciate any information people can offer. My surgeon

ended up taking me off of the Topamax. I going to stay on a lower dosage of

Neurontin until I see him again in October to try another medication. It's

so difficult to try new meds with everything we are on! Thank you also, to

everyone else that responded to my posting!!

_____

From: Stimulator [mailto:Stimulator ] On

Behalf Of Jaclyn Drake

Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 1:35 AM

Stimulator

Subject: Re: drug interactions with Topamax

I take topamax and Amitriptyline together and I don't have any

problems, that's not to say other people don't have problems taking

them together. I don't know if my idea as to why you are having

problems with your mouth has any merit to it, but I figured I would

put it out there. Amitriptyline is none to cause a dry mouth. Then

you have Neurontin and Topamax which are both anti-seizure drugs.

Anti-seizure drugs are known to cause horrible teeth problems. They

can cause dry mouthes, rotting of the teeth, cavities, etc. It is

very important when you are on these to go to the dentist regularly

and to floss and brush you teeth constantly. I was also told to use

a mouth wash with floride to help prevent dekay. My dentist also

recommended I try the over the counter mouth washes to help with the

dry mouth but none of the seemed to do much. Maybe since you are

still on a high dose of neurontin, on a pretty decent dose of

topamax, and on the amitriptyline all at the same time all of them

together are causing the problem. If you are having a problem with

dry mouth my ear, nose and throat doctor just recommended this new

medicine to me called Evoxac. I take 30mg 3 times a day and it works

great. My mouth hasn't been dry in weeks its wonderful. Anyway,

good luck I hope it all works out for you.

Jaci

On Sep 22, 2006, at 9:17 AM, wrote:

> Hello Group!

>

> There has been a lot talk about switching from Neurontin to

> Topamax. My

> doctor is trying this with me. I am now down to 900mg of Neurontin

> a day

> (from 3600mg a day) and up to 300mg of Topamax a day. I am also on

> Amitriptyline that was just increased to 100mg at night. I found

> out that

> these two medications have an interaction with each other. Does

> anyone know

> of this and have any reaction to it? Since these changes to my

> medications,

> I have been having a lot of problems with my mouth. I have swollen/

> bruised

> gums, canker sores and blisters. My teeth are also very sore to the

> point

> that I am having a lot of pain when I eat. I have asked my doctor

> (the one

> who did the SCS and prescribed the Topamax) about this and he does

> not feel

> the Amitriptyline has anything to do with it. I am confused and

> frustrated.

> Can anyone shed any light on the effects of Topamax, Amitriptyline

> etc.

>

> Thanks.

>

>

>

>

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