Re: Re: Benefits of Piracetam

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In a message dated 7/25/06 10:52:16 AM, lmlenke@... writes:

I'd be curious to hear what other people have to say about it.

We tried it and it made Olivia very hyper as did Folinic acid.

We use Bacopa and have found it to be better.

Joan

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Do you have to have a prescription for it?

--- lmmersereau <lmlenke@...> wrote:

> Hi ,

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> The way it was explained to me by Dr. L is it

> decreases response

> time. For example, if you clap your hands, a

> typical kid will look

> right away, but a DS kid may pause and then look.

> We're trying it

> b/c if it does decrease response time, I would think

> it would benefit

> learning. However, I am still on the fence about it

> b/c it IS a

> drug. Although Dr. L stated there are no harmful

> side effects and it

> only stays in the body for 8 hours.

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If your insurance will cover it, then prescription is the way to go, and may compounding pharmacies can do it.

If your insurance wont cover it, then you can order it online from several sources without a script.

http://www.altonweb.com/cs/downsyndrome/index.htm go there, then click on supplements on the left , piracetam.......

Hugs,

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Do you have to have a prescription for it?--- lmmersereau <lmlenkehotmail> wrote:> Hi ,> > The way it was explained to me by Dr. L is it> decreases response > time. For example, if you clap your hands, a> typical kid will look > right away, but a DS kid may pause and then look. > We're trying it > b/c if it does decrease response time, I would think> it would benefit > learning. However, I am still on the fence about it> b/c it IS a > drug. Although Dr. L stated there are no harmful> side effects and it > only stays in the body for 8 hours.> > I'd be curious to hear what other people have to say> about it.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > I was wondering what the benefits are to this????> > Thanks> > > > > > __________________________________________________> >

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gee, duh here too.. will give the insurance a try..... kk

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Do you have to have a prescription for it?--- lmmersereau <lmlenkehotmail> wrote:> Hi ,> > The way it was explained to me by Dr. L is it> decreases response > time. For example, if you clap your hands, a> typical kid will look > right away, but a DS kid may pause and then look. > We're trying it > b/c if it does decrease response time, I would think> it would benefit > learning. However, I am still on the fence about it> b/c it IS a > drug. Although Dr. L stated there are no harmful> side effects and it > only stays in the body for 8 hours.> > I'd be curious to hear what other people have to say> about it.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > I was wondering what the benefits are to this????> > Thanks> > > > > > __________________________________________________> >

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Yes I use it with , Have for years. I took him off it, was curious what the differences would be. Actually the first week, he perked up, seemed to be brighter, and more with it, then bam....... Got very unfocused, fuzzy. So we decreased his dosage and it brought back the brighter, livelier person. I think the origional dose was a bit too much for . I have even taken it at times. It helps to focus me, and I remember more.

My insurance covers it.

Hugs,

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Duh - I didn't even THINK to try to get our insurance to cover it! I will do that next time. I just ordered it through Nutrivene (I'm sure I can send the receipt in, but who knows how long it'll take to get reimbursed!)BTW - , have you used piracetam with your child? If so, what is your experience with it? Do you think it helps at all?Thanks,> > >> > > > > > I was wondering what the benefits are to this????> > > Thanks> > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________> > >

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In a message dated 7/26/06 2:28:59 PM, cmcbetty@... writes:

I've read about it some, but is it

along the same lines as piracetam? Isn't Bacopa just an herbal

supplement? How long have you been using it? May be interested in

this if no side effects. Betty

It is a Herb and the main thing it helps with (supposedly) is memory. We have used it for about 2 years or more with NO side effects.

Bacopa monnieri is an Ayurvedic herb used in India for memory, epilepsy, and as a mild sedative. Bacopa commonly grows in marshy areas throughout India. Studies show that bacopa has strong antioxidant properties, protects mental function in those with epilepsy who take the drug phenytion, while a study on rats showed bacopa administration improves learning skills.  I have seen Bacopa monnieri also spelled as Bacopa monniera but I have been informed that bacopa monnieri is the correct spelling.

What's in Bacopa?

Two saponins, designated as bacopaside I and II, are found in Bacopa monniera. Additional phytochemicals betulinic acid, wogonin and oroxindin have been isolated from the aerial parts of Bacopa monniera. Bacopa also has the flavonoids apigenin and luteolin.

Bacopa Extract, 225 mg, 120 Tablets - Planetary Formulas

Bacopa has been revered for centuries in the Ayurvedic herbal tradition of India to enhance clear thinking and support memory function. Studies have shown that Bacopa supports learning and memory in humans. In animal models, Bacopa provides antioxidant protection for critical memory centers and helps to reduce the effects of stress on the brain. Traditional application suggests that Bacopa has a direct effect on improving brain functions, increasing concentration, and in promoting memory functions. Bacosides play a protective role in the synaptic functions of the nerves in the hippocampus, the seat of memory. Nerve impulses are transmitted across the synapses and their degeneration is believed to contribute to impaired memory and cognition.

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Can you get this at any natural food store?

--- JoanElder@... wrote:

>

> In a message dated 7/26/06 2:28:59 PM,

> cmcbetty@... writes:

>

>

> > I've read about it some, but is it

> > along the same lines as piracetam? Isn't Bacopa

> just an herbal

> > supplement? How long have you been using it? May

> be interested in

> > this if no side effects. Betty

> >

>

> It is a Herb and the main thing it helps with

> (supposedly) is memory. We have

> used it for about 2 years or more with NO side

> effects.

>

> Bacopa monnieri is an Ayurvedic herb used in India

> for memory, epilepsy, and

> as a mild sedative. Bacopa commonly grows in marshy

> areas throughout India.

> Studies show that bacopa has strong antioxidant

> properties, protects mental

> function in those with epilepsy who take the drug

> phenytion, while a study on rats

> showed bacopa administration improves learning

> skills.  I have seen Bacopa

> monnieri also spelled as Bacopa monniera but I have

> been informed that bacopa

> monnieri is the correct spelling.

> What's in Bacopa?

> Two saponins, designated as bacopaside I and II, are

> found in Bacopa

> monniera. Additional phytochemicals betulinic acid,

> wogonin and oroxindin have been

> isolated from the aerial parts of Bacopa monniera.

> Bacopa also has the

> flavonoids apigenin and luteolin.

>

> Bacopa Extract, 225 mg, 120 Tablets - Planetary

> Formulas

> Bacopa has been revered for centuries in the

> Ayurvedic herbal tradition of

> India to enhance clear thinking and support memory

> function. Studies have shown

> that Bacopa supports learning and memory in humans.

> In animal models, Bacopa

> provides antioxidant protection for critical memory

> centers and helps to reduce

> the effects of stress on the brain. Traditional

> application suggests that

> Bacopa has a direct effect on improving brain

> functions, increasing

> concentration, and in promoting memory functions.

> Bacosides play a protective role in the

> synaptic functions of the nerves in the hippocampus,

> the seat of memory. Nerve

> impulses are transmitted across the synapses and

> their degeneration is

> believed to contribute to impaired memory and

> cognition.

>

>

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Do you use anything with it, like vitamin supplements, etc.? Betty

"It is a Herb and the main thing it helps with (supposedly) is memory. We have used it for about 2 years or more with NO side effects."

Re: Re: Benefits of Piracetam

In a message dated 7/26/06 2:28:59 PM, cmcbettybellsouth (DOT) net writes:

I've read about it some, but is italong the same lines as piracetam? Isn't Bacopa just an herbalsupplement? How long have you been using it? May be interested inthis if no side effects. Betty

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In a message dated 7/26/06 4:54:37 PM, behnkesw@... writes:

Can you get this at any natural food store?

Not sure. We have ordered in on line. IHERB.com

http://www.iherb.com/store/ProductDetails.aspx?c=Herbs & pid=PAR-77763

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In a message dated 7/26/06 5:16:14 PM, cmcbetty@... writes:

Do you use anything with it, like vitamin supplements, etc.?  Betty

Yes we use a reduced dose of NTV-d, CoQ10, Probiotics, Zinc, Cal/Mag at night and the Bacopa.

joan

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In a message dated 7/27/06 11:11:04 AM, cmcbetty@... writes:

Joan, I know I'm probably a pain in the butt... but why the "reduced dose" of NTV-D? I'm asking because I'm fooling around with Jeff's supplements and diet right now

We discovered that Olivia had some yeast overgrowth and the high doses of B vitamins in the NTV were feeding the intestinal yeast. We cut way back (from 10 pills to 3 a day) and her red checks cleared up. Also, her bottom had a rash and it cleared up.

We now have her on a gluten free diet with more probiotics and cultured yogurt with good results (improved bowel function). She struggles with constipation and it is much better with the changes in her diet. She eats really mostly veggies and fruits plus good protein sources, but we have restricted dairy due to mucus. Now she eats Kefir and good quality yogurt with no problems.

Joan

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Joan, I know I'm probably a pain in the butt... but why the " reduced dose " of

NTV-D? I'm asking because I'm fooling around with Jeff's supplements and diet

right now. You can read my l-o-n-g explanation I just posted. Jeff has some

other issues besides the celiac and need for supplements, so I'm a little afraid

of just putting him on any supplement until I KNOW there will not be any side

effects. Thanks for the help! Betty

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> From: JoanElder@...

> Date: 2006/07/27 Thu AM 12:02:58 EDT

> Down Syndrome Treatment

> Subject: Re: Re: Benefits of Piracetam

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> In a message dated 7/26/06 5:16:14 PM, cmcbetty@... writes:

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> > Do you use anything with it, like vitamin supplements, etc.?  Betty

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> Yes we use a reduced dose of NTV-d, CoQ10, Probiotics, Zinc, Cal/Mag at night

> and the Bacopa.

> joan

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