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In a message dated 9/25/00 1:24:13 PM Central Daylight Time,

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Now then, last week I sent a long vent about an incident at school, I

thought it was all sorted, there was still an issue with damaged

relationships becoz of my temper outburst but the issue with tim was sorted.

Today I went to school and the head asked to see me, she was miffed becoz I

apparantly didn't tell her about a workshop I helped organise this weekend

(I did tell her but I agreed to make completely sure next time that she

knows, fair enuf. Then she said she understood I had ahd a few minor

concerns last week, and that the teacher is still finding her feet with tim,

and is concerned herself and that I should back off going into school and

stay out of tims class for a while. Didn't say how long a while was. But I

could still come in as a governor and visit the other classes, just not tims

to let the teacher stop worrying for a while. I came home and have spent

two hours in tears over this. I am SO upset that relationships seem to be

even worse than I thought and really angry that I am not welcome in the

class anymore. I have written a letter to the head which I may or maynot

give her, I needed to write it but I might not need to give it if you know

what I mean. I cannot go into school merely as a governor, I am a parent

governor, thats my title, parent governor and I am responsible to ensure

that the needs of kids with SEN are being met, including my own child but

not putting my child above others. But the parent bit seems to have been

ignored, I am not being allowed to be a parent, I am expected to

professional 100% of the time even when my own child is affected. I'm sorry

but I can't be that objective all the time. I have said that unless I can

go back into class in an effort to repare damaged relationships and to work

with tims class (as I have always done) then I am not prepared to stay on as

governor, I can't be either or, I am a parent AND a governor, they are

seperate roles and I need to be allowed to be a parent and be allowed to

behave like any other parent would if they felt their child was being

treated inappropriately. I might rewrite the letter so it is less emotional

but then iagain I might not! I really don't know what to do, I want to be a

governor, I want to work in school, in all the classes and to be not only a

parent helper but also a good governor, I just hadn't realised how

incompatable the two seem to be.

sue wong

>>

Sue,

Even as a professional I've gotten emotional at times. This is part of being

human and being an advocate for individuals. It is just my opinion but I feel

that the teacher is being a bit thin skinned about the whole thing (too

sensitive). People are going to get upset at times and may say or do things

that are difficult to take but she as a professional needs to set her ego

aside and listen and hear if what is being said has merit and act on the info

rather than being set back by how it was delivered.

I also think the head was being a bit overprotective of this teacher. If she

is a quality teacher and would like to learn how to better work with children

then maybe she needs to talk to parents a bit more rather than trying to

exclude them.

What would have happened if it was another teacher that this teacher had a

run in with? Would they avoid each other or would they be professional and

work together and patch things up?

Karyn

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I would be VERY suspicious of a school / teacher that did not

welcome a parent into the class room!!

Charlie.

Repercussions

Now then, last week I sent a long vent about an incident at school, I

thought it was all sorted, there was still an issue with damaged

relationships becoz of my temper outburst but the issue with tim was sorted.

Today I went to school and the head asked to see me, she was miffed becoz I

apparantly didn't tell her about a workshop I helped organise this weekend

(I did tell her but I agreed to make completely sure next time that she

knows, fair enuf. Then she said she understood I had ahd a few minor

concerns last week, and that the teacher is still finding her feet with tim,

and is concerned herself and that I should back off going into school and

stay out of tims class for a while. Didn't say how long a while was. But I

could still come in as a governor and visit the other classes, just not tims

to let the teacher stop worrying for a while. I came home and have spent

two hours in tears over this. I am SO upset that relationships seem to be

even worse than I thought and really angry that I am not welcome in the

class anymore. I have written a letter to the head which I may or maynot

give her, I needed to write it but I might not need to give it if you know

what I mean. I cannot go into school merely as a governor, I am a parent

governor, thats my title, parent governor and I am responsible to ensure

that the needs of kids with SEN are being met, including my own child but

not putting my child above others. But the parent bit seems to have been

ignored, I am not being allowed to be a parent, I am expected to

professional 100% of the time even when my own child is affected. I'm sorry

but I can't be that objective all the time. I have said that unless I can

go back into class in an effort to repare damaged relationships and to work

with tims class (as I have always done) then I am not prepared to stay on as

governor, I can't be either or, I am a parent AND a governor, they are

seperate roles and I need to be allowed to be a parent and be allowed to

behave like any other parent would if they felt their child was being

treated inappropriately. I might rewrite the letter so it is less emotional

but then iagain I might not! I really don't know what to do, I want to be a

governor, I want to work in school, in all the classes and to be not only a

parent helper but also a good governor, I just hadn't realised how

incompatable the two seem to be.

sue wong

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Sue,

Get back with that teacher and principal and do some damage control. I

see nothing wrong with letting your true emotions come out. Just be honest

in how you feel and reinterate that you want to work with them, not against

them. I agree its best to get this stuff worked out ASAP before it gets

worse.

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Sue, Last year I was asked not to come to 's class for " awhile " and was

terribly hurt. I left the school in tears. I went home and after much thought

wrote them a letter saying maybe they were right and I would stay away for

" awhile. " I gave them one week and then resumed my usual schedule of coming

in unannounced. They never made mention that the week wasn't a long enough

while and they did not throw me out either. I figured one week was long

enough and if any one was going to force the issue again it would be them.

They chose not to force the issue. Pam

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In a message dated 9/25/00 10:32:59 PM Central Daylight Time, MJenney@...

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<< Sue, Last year I was asked not to come to 's class for " awhile " and

was

terribly hurt. I left the school in tears. I went home and after much

thought

wrote them a letter saying maybe they were right and I would stay away for

" awhile. " I gave them one week and then resumed my usual schedule of coming

in unannounced. They never made mention that the week wasn't a long enough

while and they did not throw me out either. I figured one week was long

enough and if any one was going to force the issue again it would be them.

They chose not to force the issue. Pam

>>

I guess I would really question why I wasn't wanted in the room. I think if

they felt I was distracting to my child and so he wasn't working well or was

acting out then I would change my behavior BUT, if it was simply because they

didn't like me looking over their shoulder then I'd probably continue going

but try to be less noticeable.

I am careful about not disturbing class whenever I stop at school. I try not

to be noticed by my foster son because he will work to get my attention but I

do drop off lunch money or a change of clothes and make a point of walking

past the classroom and peeking in to see what is being done. I think that is

needed when my child can't tell me what is happening during the day.

JMO and I'm not saying that anyone here is disrupting a class,

Karyn

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In a message dated 9/26/2000 6:01:33 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

KVanRyzin@... writes:

<< am careful about not disturbing class whenever I stop at school. I try

not

to be noticed by my foster son because he will work to get my attention but

I

do drop off lunch money or a change of clothes and make a point of walking

past the classroom and peeking in to see what is being done. >>

Lucky you. Our elem school was built during the 'open' classroom period. The

teachers hate it, in fact they use file cabinets and dividers to try to

'enclose'their rooms more, I'm assuming they're trying to cut down on the

noise level.

But this makes it impossible to peek in any of the 2-6 classrooms, cause you

can't walk by without anyone noticing. :-( I Wonder why when they

renovated a few yrs. ago theydidn't put up walls for these classrooms, would

have made sense to me. hehe

Joy

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Hi,

well, I dropped a letter off to the heads office and ran this morning. I

really didn't know how she would react to it. I was out all day (very

convieniently!) and had a message to call her when i got in which after some

due consideration I did. I haven't been so nervous in a long time. Long

and the short of it we had a long chat on the phone and she wants her and me

plus teacher and csa to met up next week to clear everything up. To a large

extent we are cleared up, we sorted most stuff out on the phone, I can go

into class again but I will back off in the mornings, the most stressful

time from the teachers point of view, and go in the afternoons instead,

suits me better anyhow now I am working. She was very concerned about me,

very sweet(!) and stressed that she doesn't want to see damage to any

relationships over this and that basically the whole thing has been blown

out of proportion on both sides over what was basicaly a misunderstanding on

both sides (something I agree with) and she fully accepts responsibility for

my upset last night, she hadn't realised I was so stressed at the moment and

thought she was doing both me and the teacher a favour. Anyway, its sorted,

still got a lot of bridges to rebuild, but that should be the end of the

matter, other than the clearing the air chat next week. Thanks for all your

support, I was really stressed by all this and it was really helpful to have

somewhere to go and know I had people who could actually empathise with the

situation.

sue wong

Re: Repercussions

> Sue, Last year I was asked not to come to 's class for " awhile " and

was

> terribly hurt. I left the school in tears. I went home and after much

thought

> wrote them a letter saying maybe they were right and I would stay away for

> " awhile. " I gave them one week and then resumed my usual schedule of

coming

> in unannounced. They never made mention that the week wasn't a long

enough

> while and they did not throw me out either. I figured one week was long

> enough and if any one was going to force the issue again it would be them.

> They chose not to force the issue. Pam

>

>

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In a message dated 9/26/00 9:01:38 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

KVanRyzin@... writes:

<< I guess I would really question why I wasn't wanted in the room. I think

if

they felt I was distracting to my child and so he wasn't working well or was

acting out then I would change my behavior BUT, if it was simply because

they

didn't like me looking over their shoulder then I'd probably continue going

but try to be less noticeable. >>

I guess it was that I was distracting to the aide. She felt as though she had

to talk to me to fill me in on how was doing. We were being troublesome

to the class and teacher and . I did not want this so was uncomfortable

also.

I had tried to have her not talk to me and I really wanted to talk to the

other kids and help them, I love this part of going to school. With they

treat me different from with my other kids. Think I am only there for . I

have worked on it and getting them to understand that I love to be with all

the kids.

WE worked out other times to talk about . Now it is a new school year and

a new aide. I am now just going to start my drop ins. They have had their

grace period. Pam, who seems to make teachers nervous when it comes to

but never with my other children. Go figure?

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