Re: Abandonment

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I'm not really interested in actually pursuing legal action against him; the

most I would do is file a police report if he did end up refusing to return my

serum or medical records, etc. I'm really hoping that DOESN'T happen, though!

As for the unexpectedness of it all, I'm really trying to figure it all out.

Both of the messages I listened to were the doc's own voice, so he's not in a

coma in a hospital somewhere. He sounds completely normal on the machine, and

says that he will see patients on a limited basis for 'urgent' situations until

June, plus filling 'urgent' scrips until then. He's not married any longer and

he doesn't have any kids (at least no kids that I've ever heard of... I guess

you never know about someone's wild oats though, huh?), so I don't think it's

that an immediate family member has taken ill. And it seems like if it were

some sort of " unexpected emergency " , he would have had at least ONE of his staff

members stay behind to man the phones, call people to tell them that their

appt's have been cancelled and they need to find a new family doctor, and

forward medical records, etc.

The only thing that makes any sense to me is if he just went bankrupt... if he

kept thinking he would find a new funding source, etc., but it just didn't come

through for him and he couldn't even afford to make payroll all of a sudden.

He's a fairly young doctor (maybe 38-40yo), and he just went out on his own

three years ago (and went through a divorce at the same time), so he has had

some pretty major expenditures: office space to be renovated, office equipment,

medical equipment, insurance coverages, etc. Previously he was employed by a

well-established group practice (in which he was an employee, not a partner)

that was staffed with almost a dozen doctors. In his own practice, it was just

him " bringing in the bacon " -- an office with 2-3 employees (plus the doctor's

salary too) and three fully-equipped exam rooms is a LOT of overhead for just

one physician's billings to cover, so it may be that he simply got overextended

and couldn't get out from under it. That seems to be the only plausible

explanation for why he doesn't even have his receptionist anymore.

As long as I get my stuff, that's what really concerns me. Here I am getting

ready to go in to see the new doctor, and I can't even tell him for sure what my

TSH levels were for the past decade, b/c my medical records are all being " held

hostage " by the AWOL doctor!!! VERY frustrating, but I'm looking at the bright

side -- maybe this is all for the BEST, b/c it forced me to seek out a new

doctor (one who can and will help me figure out my hormones!) )

Debbi

Debbi,

I had something similar happen to me years ago, when my PCP joined an

HMO, but he at least made a token effort to refer me to colleagues. Your

legal options are limited and probably not worth the effort and expense,

unless (a) those allergy shots were REALLY expensive or ( the

abandonment directly causes you some major harm, such as

hospitalization, surgery, or financial loss. However, you can report the

physician to the appropriate governing medical board. That might turn up

the heat a little.

Since this is considered such seriously unprofessional behavior, you

might be dealing with a sudden illness or other situation that

incapacitates the doctor. You might want to ask around and see if anyone

knows why this happened. It might help you decide whether you want to

cut him some slack or try even harder to find the nearest lawyer.

Chuck B.

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This happended to me with my OB/GYN. Thank goodness it was for a

physical when I found this out.

Years later it came to light that there was a malpractice suit

against him and he was tired of dealing with those. He simply

retired and said the heck with it.

I don't know what happended. My dealing with him were excellent. He

naturally delivered a very difficult baby and successfully treated me

for infertility. Hard to say what went wrong.

Sherry

> Debbi,

I had something similar happen to me years ago, when my PCP joined

an HMO, but he at least made a token effort to refer me to

colleagues. Your

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Well, I know my request made it into the computer today for them all to see, but the GI Doc still didn't call. At what point do you suppose I could start flinging this lovely word around, am I expecting too much, too soon? I find it mighty odd that they are refusing to let me make a return appointment. He has had the Cat Scan results since November 22nd.. Seeing another GI was not mentioned, except by my Primary and he said I would have to start over at square 1 with a consultation, at least an 8 week wait.. Treatment.. Thankfully I saw a second opinion doctor and started on Supplements in October, she has at least, I am very sure bought me more time.. I will be lucky to get started on tx as soon as , the way things are going.. I am also Geneotype 1... Sheena

Jackie on <redjaxjm@...> wrote: Well its better to change docs BEFORE you start tx than to have to do this in the middle of your tx! Abandonment applies to a doc who turfs you without providing for continuing medical care honey. We learned all about that in paramedic school because we too had to make sure to turn the patient over to someone of at least my training or higher meaning that I could only turn over my patient to another paramedic or

nurse or doc,, never to an emt basic.. and a doc cannot stop treating you as a patient without making sure you have another doc to treat you OR HE IS guilty of abandonment! Dont let this jackass push you around honey! please let us know how things turn out! hugs jaxSheena <mom4possums2002 > wrote: And I have to find a new GI before I ever consider it, can you EVEN imagine.. It was sure best that I never got started on tx yet... Wishing you the best! Sheena <marvindamartian05 > wrote: That will be cool! It sound funny but I can't wait for my first shot!!I want to let this dragon know that i mean business. First I have tolet the insurance company know that i mean business, lol!> > > > >> > > > > Hi Sue,> > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the nice welcome. > > > > > > > > > > I stopped drinking in the early 90's after a bad alcohol > > > > experience. Two (strong) drinks knocked me on my butt and I was > > > sick > > > > for

several days afterwards. That was enough for me so I haven't > > > had > > > > an alcoholic beverage since. Makes me wonder if the disease was > > > > present at that time.... probably!> > > > > > > > > > I'll be considering everything that I eat, drink or medicate > > > with > > > > very carefully from now on. I just wish I could have found out > > > about > > > > this much, much earlier. I'm hoping that if there is liver damage > > > > that it'll be minimal or none at all.> > > > > > > > > > I've gotten hold of a few meditation CDs to try to reducestress > > > > and will be giving one or two a try later today. I don't work > > > outside > > > > of our home so that's a plus in a lot of ways insofar as this > > > disease

> > > > is concerned. I do some website maintenance and graphic editing > > > here > > > > at home on occasion and those tasks can be done at myconvenience -> > > > > > > this is good, too.> > > > > > > > > > I'll be paying very close attention to all posts within the > > > group! > > > > I'm sure I'm going to learn lots from everyone here. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks again,> > > > > > > > > > -Laurie> > > > > > > > > > Re: Intro> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Laurie!> > > > > > > > > > > > Welcome to the Group! You are in the right place...I wasright > > > > where> > > > > > you are just 3 months ago - shocked, scared and confused. I > > > will > > > > tell> > > > > > you that knowledge is power for sure. This group will helpyou > > > a> > > > > > lot,and I also encourage you to find a support group in your > > > area.> > > > > > > > > > > > If you haven't already - Stop drinking alcohol, even Nyquil, > > > > etc.! And> > > > > > start eating medicinally, remembering everything you

consume, > > > > inhale,> > > > > > etc. can either help or hurt your liver.> > > > > > > > > > > > Read everything you can, and get used to to the idea that you > > > MUST> > > > > > become your own advocate for your health. Don't be surprised > > > if, > > > > at> > > > > > times, you feel like you know more about your body, symptoms > > > and > > > > the> > > > > > disease than your own doctor.> > > > > > > > > > > > Be positive, and embrace your faith in God. This will help > > > more > > > > than> > > > > > you can imagine. Learn to breathe, really breathe, in through > > > your> > > > > > nose, and out through your mouth.

Not only will this relax > > > you, it> > > > > > actually massages and stimulates the liver!> > > > > > > > > > > > I know it is hard to relax, but you have to - stress weakens > > > the> > > > > > immune system and that is something you don't need!> > > > > > > > > > > > Finally - listen to Jackie, Janet, Liz and the other folks in > > > this> > > > > > group who have been there, done that. No question is toosmall > > > or > > > > big,> > > > > > and if they don't know the answer they try and find out!> > > > > > > > > > > > God Bless You,> > > > > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > >

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Sheena I'd be flinging it around right now!!! Abandonment is a very serious issue and if you were to suddenly get worse, and he refused to return your calls, his NEGLIGENCE could cause you further illness.. For a doc to be found guilty of Negligence, there are 4 things required 1. The doc had a duty to respond ( he does because he is your doc of record at this time) 2. He didnt respond 3. You became worse, or had something bad happen to you 4. The bad thing happened to you BECAUSE of his lack of responding.. Remember honey, this disease moves in decades,, you do have time to find a new doc but since he was your doc when they found the tumor.. so he HAS to deal with it,, I mean, he might send you to a surgeon or some specialist but he still NEEDS to call you back I'd call the AMA immediately and report this... I'd also call the better business bureau and report

him too. Its awful that you are having to put up with this,, its very unprofessional, to say the least.. but I'd report him immediately! jaxSheena <mom4possums2002@...> wrote: Well, I know my request made it into the computer today for them all to see, but the GI Doc still didn't call. At what point do you suppose I could start flinging this lovely word around, am I expecting too much, too soon? I find it

mighty odd that they are refusing to let me make a return appointment. He has had the Cat Scan results since November 22nd.. Seeing another GI was not mentioned, except by my Primary and he said I would have to start over at square 1 with a consultation, at least an 8 week wait.. Treatment.. Thankfully I saw a second opinion doctor and started on Supplements in October, she has at least, I am very sure bought me more time.. I will be lucky to get started on tx as soon as , the way things are going.. I am also Geneotype 1... Sheena Jackie on <redjaxjm > wrote: Well its better to change docs BEFORE you start tx than to

have to do this in the middle of your tx! Abandonment applies to a doc who turfs you without providing for continuing medical care honey. We learned all about that in paramedic school because we too had to make sure to turn the patient over to someone of at least my training or higher meaning that I could only turn over my patient to another paramedic or nurse or doc,, never to an emt basic.. and a doc cannot stop treating you as a patient without making sure you have another doc to treat you OR HE IS guilty of abandonment! Dont let this jackass push you around honey! please let us know how things turn out! hugs jaxSheena <mom4possums2002 > wrote: And I have to find a new GI before I ever consider it, can you EVEN imagine.. It was sure best that I never got started on tx yet... Wishing you the best! Sheena <marvindamartian05 > wrote: That will be cool! It sound funny but I can't wait for my first shot!!I want to let this dragon know that i mean business. First I have tolet the insurance company know that i mean business, lol!> > > > >> > > > > Hi Sue,> > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the nice welcome. > > > > > > > > > > I stopped drinking in the early 90's after a bad alcohol > > > > experience. Two (strong) drinks knocked me on my butt and I was > > > sick > > > > for several days afterwards. That was enough for me so I haven't > > > had > > > > an alcoholic beverage since. Makes me wonder if the disease was > > > > present at that time.... probably!> > > > > > > > > > I'll be considering everything that I eat, drink or medicate > > > with > > > > very carefully from now

on. I just wish I could have found out > > > about > > > > this much, much earlier. I'm hoping that if there is liver damage > > > > that it'll be minimal or none at all.> > > > > > > > > > I've gotten hold of a few meditation CDs to try to reducestress > > > > and will be giving one or two a try later today. I don't work > > > outside > > > > of our home so that's a plus in a lot of ways insofar as this > > > disease > > > > is concerned. I do some website maintenance and graphic editing > > > here > > > > at home on occasion and those tasks can be done at myconvenience -> > > > > > > this is good, too.> > > > > > > > > > I'll be paying very close attention to all posts within the > > > group! >

> > > I'm sure I'm going to learn lots from everyone here. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks again,> > > > > > > > > > -Laurie> > > > > > > > > > Re: Intro> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Laurie!> > > > > > > > > > > > Welcome to the Group! You are in the right place...I wasright > > > > where> > > > > > you are just 3 months ago -

shocked, scared and confused. I > > > will > > > > tell> > > > > > you that knowledge is power for sure. This group will helpyou > > > a> > > > > > lot,and I also encourage you to find a support group in your > > > area.> > > > > > > > > > > > If you haven't already - Stop drinking alcohol, even Nyquil, > > > > etc.! And> > > > > > start eating medicinally, remembering everything you consume, > > > > inhale,> > > > > > etc. can either help or hurt your liver.> > > > > > > > > > > > Read everything you can, and get used to to the idea that you > > > MUST> > > > > > become your own advocate for your health. Don't be surprised > > > if, > > > >

at> > > > > > times, you feel like you know more about your body, symptoms > > > and > > > > the> > > > > > disease than your own doctor.> > > > > > > > > > > > Be positive, and embrace your faith in God. This will help > > > more > > > > than> > > > > > you can imagine. Learn to breathe, really breathe, in through > > > your> > > > > > nose, and out through your mouth. Not only will this relax > > > you, it> > > > > > actually massages and stimulates the liver!> > > > > > > > > > > > I know it is hard to relax, but you have to - stress weakens > > > the> > > > > > immune system and that is something you don't need!> > > > > > > >

> > > > Finally - listen to Jackie, Janet, Liz and the other folks in > > > this> > > > > > group who have been there, done that. No question is toosmall > > > or > > > > big,> > > > > > and if they don't know the answer they try and find out!> > > > > > > > > > > > God Bless You,> > > > > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------> > > Access over 1 million songs - Music Unlimited. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jackie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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i would stand out front with a sign that says all ducks fly south for the winter whys this quack still hereSheena <mom4possums2002@...> wrote: Well, I know my request made it into the computer today for them all to see, but the GI Doc still didn't call. At what point do you suppose I could start flinging this lovely word around, am I expecting too much, too soon? I find it mighty odd that they are refusing to let me make a return appointment.

He has had the Cat Scan results since November 22nd.. Seeing another GI was not mentioned, except by my Primary and he said I would have to start over at square 1 with a consultation, at least an 8 week wait.. Treatment.. Thankfully I saw a second opinion doctor and started on Supplements in October, she has at least, I am very sure bought me more time.. I will be lucky to get started on tx as soon as , the way things are going.. I am also Geneotype 1... Sheena Jackie on <redjaxjm > wrote: Well its better to change docs BEFORE you start tx than to have to do this in the middle of your tx! Abandonment applies to

a doc who turfs you without providing for continuing medical care honey. We learned all about that in paramedic school because we too had to make sure to turn the patient over to someone of at least my training or higher meaning that I could only turn over my patient to another paramedic or nurse or doc,, never to an emt basic.. and a doc cannot stop treating you as a patient without making sure you have another doc to treat you OR HE IS guilty of abandonment! Dont let this jackass push you around honey! please let us know how things turn out! hugs jaxSheena <mom4possums2002 > wrote: And I have to find a new GI before I ever consider it, can you EVEN imagine.. It was

sure best that I never got started on tx yet... Wishing you the best! Sheena <marvindamartian05 > wrote: That will be cool! It sound funny but I can't wait for my first shot!!I want to let this dragon know that i mean business. First I have tolet the insurance company know that i mean business, lol!> > > > >> > > > > Hi Sue,> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks for the nice welcome. > > > > > > > > > > I stopped drinking in the early 90's after a bad alcohol > > > > experience. Two (strong) drinks knocked me on my butt and I was > > > sick > > > > for several days afterwards. That was enough for me so I haven't > > > had > > > > an alcoholic beverage since. Makes me wonder if the disease was > > > > present at that time.... probably!> > > > > > > > > > I'll be considering everything that I eat, drink or medicate > > > with > > > > very carefully from now on. I just wish I could have found out > > > about > > > > this much, much earlier. I'm hoping that if there is liver damage > > > > that it'll be minimal or none at all.> > > > > >

> > > > I've gotten hold of a few meditation CDs to try to reducestress > > > > and will be giving one or two a try later today. I don't work > > > outside > > > > of our home so that's a plus in a lot of ways insofar as this > > > disease > > > > is concerned. I do some website maintenance and graphic editing > > > here > > > > at home on occasion and those tasks can be done at myconvenience -> > > > > > > this is good, too.> > > > > > > > > > I'll be paying very close attention to all posts within the > > > group! > > > > I'm sure I'm going to learn lots from everyone here. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks again,> > > > > > > > > > -Laurie> > > > > > > >

> > Re: Intro> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Laurie!> > > > > > > > > > > > Welcome to the Group! You are in the right place...I wasright > > > > where> > > > > > you are just 3 months ago - shocked, scared and confused. I > > > will > > > > tell> > > > > > you that knowledge is power for sure. This group will helpyou > > > a> > > > > > lot,and I also

encourage you to find a support group in your > > > area.> > > > > > > > > > > > If you haven't already - Stop drinking alcohol, even Nyquil, > > > > etc.! And> > > > > > start eating medicinally, remembering everything you consume, > > > > inhale,> > > > > > etc. can either help or hurt your liver.> > > > > > > > > > > > Read everything you can, and get used to to the idea that you > > > MUST> > > > > > become your own advocate for your health. Don't be surprised > > > if, > > > > at> > > > > > times, you feel like you know more about your body, symptoms > > > and > > > > the> > > > > > disease than your own doctor.> > > > > > > >

> > > > Be positive, and embrace your faith in God. This will help > > > more > > > > than> > > > > > you can imagine. Learn to breathe, really breathe, in through > > > your> > > > > > nose, and out through your mouth. Not only will this relax > > > you, it> > > > > > actually massages and stimulates the liver!> > > > > > > > > > > > I know it is hard to relax, but you have to - stress weakens > > > the> > > > > > immune system and that is something you don't need!> > > > > > > > > > > > Finally - listen to Jackie, Janet, Liz and the other folks in > > > this> > > > > > group who have been there, done that. No question is toosmall > > > or > > > >

big,> > > > > > and if they don't know the answer they try and find out!> > > > > > > > > > > > God Bless You,> > > > > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------> > > Access over 1 million songs - Music Unlimited. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jackie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------> > > Access over 1 million songs - Music Unlimited.> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Take the

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Total agreement with Jackie. Sheena listen to what this lady has to say. Love JanetJackie on <redjaxjm@...> wrote: Sheena I'd be flinging it around right now!!! Abandonment is a very serious issue and if you were to suddenly get worse, and he refused to return your calls, his NEGLIGENCE could cause you further illness.. For a doc to be found guilty of Negligence, there are

4 things required 1. The doc had a duty to respond ( he does because he is your doc of record at this time) 2. He didnt respond 3. You became worse, or had something bad happen to you 4. The bad thing happened to you BECAUSE of his lack of responding.. Remember honey, this disease moves in decades,, you do have time to find a new doc but since he was your doc when they found the tumor.. so he HAS to deal with it,, I mean, he might send you to a surgeon or some specialist but he still NEEDS to call you back I'd call the AMA immediately and report this... I'd also call the better business bureau and report him too. Its awful that you are having to put up with this,, its very unprofessional, to say the least.. but I'd report him immediately! jaxSheena <mom4possums2002 > wrote: Well, I know my request made it into the computer today for them all to see, but the GI Doc still didn't call. At what point do you suppose I could start flinging this lovely word around, am I expecting too much, too soon? I find it mighty odd that they are refusing to let me make a return appointment. He has had the Cat Scan results since November 22nd.. Seeing another GI was not mentioned, except by my Primary and he said I would have to start over at square 1 with a consultation, at least an 8 week wait.. Treatment.. Thankfully I saw a second opinion doctor and started on Supplements in October, she has at least, I am very sure bought me more time.. I will be lucky to get started on tx as soon as , the

way things are going.. I am also Geneotype 1... Sheena Jackie on <redjaxjm > wrote: Well its better to change docs BEFORE you start tx than to have to do this in the middle of your tx! Abandonment applies to a doc who turfs you without providing for continuing medical care honey. We learned all about that in paramedic school because we too had to make sure to turn the patient over to someone of at least my training or higher meaning that I could only turn over my patient to another paramedic or nurse or doc,, never to an emt basic.. and a doc cannot stop treating you as a patient without making sure you have another doc to treat you OR HE IS guilty of abandonment! Dont let this

jackass push you around honey! please let us know how things turn out! hugs jaxSheena <mom4possums2002 > wrote: And I have to find a new GI before I ever consider it, can you EVEN imagine.. It was sure best that I never got started on tx yet... Wishing you the best! Sheena <marvindamartian05 > wrote: That will be cool! It sound funny but I can't wait for my first shot!!I want to let this dragon know that i mean business. First I

have tolet the insurance company know that i mean business, lol!> > > > >> > > > > Hi Sue,> > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the nice welcome. > > > > > > > > > > I stopped drinking in the early 90's after a bad alcohol > > > > experience. Two (strong) drinks knocked me on my butt and I was > > > sick > > > > for several days afterwards. That was enough for me so I haven't > > > had > > >

> an alcoholic beverage since. Makes me wonder if the disease was > > > > present at that time.... probably!> > > > > > > > > > I'll be considering everything that I eat, drink or medicate > > > with > > > > very carefully from now on. I just wish I could have found out > > > about > > > > this much, much earlier. I'm hoping that if there is liver damage > > > > that it'll be minimal or none at all.> > > > > > > > > > I've gotten hold of a few meditation CDs to try to reducestress > > > > and will be giving one or two a try later today. I don't work > > > outside > > > > of our home so that's a plus in a lot of ways insofar as this > > > disease > > > > is concerned. I do some website maintenance and graphic editing > >

> here > > > > at home on occasion and those tasks can be done at myconvenience -> > > > > > > this is good, too.> > > > > > > > > > I'll be paying very close attention to all posts within the > > > group! > > > > I'm sure I'm going to learn lots from everyone here. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks again,> > > > > > > > > > -Laurie> > > > > > > > > > Re: Intro> >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Laurie!> > > > > > > > > > > > Welcome to the Group! You are in the right place...I wasright > > > > where> > > > > > you are just 3 months ago - shocked, scared and confused. I > > > will > > > > tell> > > > > > you that knowledge is power for sure. This group will helpyou > > > a> > > > > > lot,and I also encourage you to find a support group in your > > > area.> > > > > > > > > > > > If you haven't already - Stop drinking alcohol, even Nyquil, > > > > etc.! And> > > > > > start eating medicinally, remembering everything you consume, > > > > inhale,> > > > > > etc. can either help or hurt

your liver.> > > > > > > > > > > > Read everything you can, and get used to to the idea that you > > > MUST> > > > > > become your own advocate for your health. Don't be surprised > > > if, > > > > at> > > > > > times, you feel like you know more about your body, symptoms > > > and > > > > the> > > > > > disease than your own doctor.> > > > > > > > > > > > Be positive, and embrace your faith in God. This will help > > > more > > > > than> > > > > > you can imagine. Learn to breathe, really breathe, in through > > > your> > > > > > nose, and out through your mouth. Not only will this relax > > > you, it> > > > > > actually massages

and stimulates the liver!> > > > > > > > > > > > I know it is hard to relax, but you have to - stress weakens > > > the> > > > > > immune system and that is something you don't need!> > > > > > > > > > > > Finally - listen to Jackie, Janet, Liz and the other folks in > > > this> > > > > > group who have been there, done that. No question is toosmall > > > or > > > > big,> > > > > > and if they don't know the answer they try and find out!> > > > > > > > > > > > God Bless You,> > > > > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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THANK you Janet!Janet <doc_jade@...> wrote: Total agreement with Jackie. Sheena listen to what this lady has to say. Love JanetJackie on <redjaxjm > wrote: Sheena I'd be flinging it around right now!!! Abandonment

is a very serious issue and if you were to suddenly get worse, and he refused to return your calls, his NEGLIGENCE could cause you further illness.. For a doc to be found guilty of Negligence, there are 4 things required 1. The doc had a duty to respond ( he does because he is your doc of record at this time) 2. He didnt respond 3. You became worse, or had something bad happen to you 4. The bad thing happened to you BECAUSE of his lack of responding.. Remember honey, this disease moves in decades,, you do have time to find a new doc but since he was your doc when they found the tumor.. so he HAS to deal with it,, I mean, he might send you to a surgeon or some specialist but he still NEEDS to call you back I'd call the AMA immediately and report this... I'd also call the better business bureau and report him too. Its awful that you are having to put up with this,,

its very unprofessional, to say the least.. but I'd report him immediately! jaxSheena <mom4possums2002 > wrote: Well, I know my request made it into the computer today for them all to see, but the GI Doc still didn't call. At what point do you suppose I could start flinging this lovely word around, am I expecting too much, too soon? I find it mighty odd that they are refusing to let me make a return appointment. He has had the Cat Scan results since November 22nd.. Seeing another GI was not mentioned, except by my Primary and he said I would have to start over at square 1 with a consultation, at least an 8 week wait.. Treatment.. Thankfully I saw a second opinion

doctor and started on Supplements in October, she has at least, I am very sure bought me more time.. I will be lucky to get started on tx as soon as , the way things are going.. I am also Geneotype 1... Sheena Jackie on <redjaxjm > wrote: Well its better to change docs BEFORE you start tx than to have to do this in the middle of your tx! Abandonment applies to a doc who turfs you without providing for continuing medical care honey. We learned all about that in paramedic school because we too had to make sure to turn the patient over to someone of at least my training or higher meaning that I could only turn over my patient to another paramedic or

nurse or doc,, never to an emt basic.. and a doc cannot stop treating you as a patient without making sure you have another doc to treat you OR HE IS guilty of abandonment! Dont let this jackass push you around honey! please let us know how things turn out! hugs jaxSheena <mom4possums2002 > wrote: And I have to find a new GI before I ever consider it, can you EVEN imagine.. It was sure best that I never got started on tx yet... Wishing you the best! Sheena <marvindamartian05 > wrote: That will be cool! It sound funny but I can't wait for my first shot!!I want to let this dragon know that i mean business. First I have tolet the insurance company know that i mean business, lol!> > > > >> > > > > Hi Sue,> > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the nice welcome. > > > > > > > > > > I stopped drinking in the early 90's after a bad alcohol > > > > experience. Two (strong) drinks knocked me on my butt and I was > > > sick > > > > for

several days afterwards. That was enough for me so I haven't > > > had > > > > an alcoholic beverage since. Makes me wonder if the disease was > > > > present at that time.... probably!> > > > > > > > > > I'll be considering everything that I eat, drink or medicate > > > with > > > > very carefully from now on. I just wish I could have found out > > > about > > > > this much, much earlier. I'm hoping that if there is liver damage > > > > that it'll be minimal or none at all.> > > > > > > > > > I've gotten hold of a few meditation CDs to try to reducestress > > > > and will be giving one or two a try later today. I don't work > > > outside > > > > of our home so that's a plus in a lot of ways insofar as this > > > disease

> > > > is concerned. I do some website maintenance and graphic editing > > > here > > > > at home on occasion and those tasks can be done at myconvenience -> > > > > > > this is good, too.> > > > > > > > > > I'll be paying very close attention to all posts within the > > > group! > > > > I'm sure I'm going to learn lots from everyone here. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks again,> > > > > > > > > > -Laurie> > > > > > > > > > Re: Intro> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Laurie!> > > > > > > > > > > > Welcome to the Group! You are in the right place...I wasright > > > > where> > > > > > you are just 3 months ago - shocked, scared and confused. I > > > will > > > > tell> > > > > > you that knowledge is power for sure. This group will helpyou > > > a> > > > > > lot,and I also encourage you to find a support group in your > > > area.> > > > > > > > > > > > If you haven't already - Stop drinking alcohol, even Nyquil, > > > > etc.! And> > > > > > start eating medicinally, remembering everything you

consume, > > > > inhale,> > > > > > etc. can either help or hurt your liver.> > > > > > > > > > > > Read everything you can, and get used to to the idea that you > > > MUST> > > > > > become your own advocate for your health. Don't be surprised > > > if, > > > > at> > > > > > times, you feel like you know more about your body, symptoms > > > and > > > > the> > > > > > disease than your own doctor.> > > > > > > > > > > > Be positive, and embrace your faith in God. This will help > > > more > > > > than> > > > > > you can imagine. Learn to breathe, really breathe, in through > > > your> > > > > > nose, and out through your mouth.

Not only will this relax > > > you, it> > > > > > actually massages and stimulates the liver!> > > > > > > > > > > > I know it is hard to relax, but you have to - stress weakens > > > the> > > > > > immune system and that is something you don't need!> > > > > > > > > > > > Finally - listen to Jackie, Janet, Liz and the other folks in > > > this> > > > > > group who have been there, done that. No question is toosmall > > > or > > > > big,> > > > > > and if they don't know the answer they try and find out!> > > > > > > > > > > > God Bless You,> > > > > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > >

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Thank you ALL! Well, there is no doubt on 1. and 2. and trying to get it resolved long before it might hit 3. and 4.! As soon as my oldest son returns from Sacramento this week, there will be non stop flinging going on.. Stay tuned.. what a Soap Opera.. I hope my fight will someday help others... Tim, I really got a kick out of your advice, standing outside the clinic with a sign, I sure laughed and laughed.. I pictured the sign with his picture plastered all over it, LOL.. It is a bit difficult to understand, but a fact, that I can't just "change" doctors, not with an HMO. Hubby's Insurance is through his job, changes can be made ONLY once a year at open enrollment, though very likely I am

now stuck anyway, due to the "pre-existing" condition. No one is going to want me.. Liz, I am appalled at your treatment, as well, I am so very sorry that you had to go through that! Sheena Jackie on <redjaxjm@...> wrote: THANK you Janet!Janet <doc_jade >

wrote: Total agreement with Jackie. Sheena listen to what this lady has to say. Love JanetJackie on <redjaxjm > wrote: Sheena I'd be flinging it around right now!!! Abandonment is a very serious issue and if you were to suddenly get worse, and he refused to return your calls, his NEGLIGENCE could cause you further illness.. For a doc to be found guilty of Negligence, there are 4 things required 1. The doc had a duty to respond ( he does because he is your doc of record at this time) 2. He didnt respond 3. You

became worse, or had something bad happen to you 4. The bad thing happened to you BECAUSE of his lack of responding.. Remember honey, this disease moves in decades,, you do have time to find a new doc but since he was your doc when they found the tumor.. so he HAS to deal with it,, I mean, he might send you to a surgeon or some specialist but he still NEEDS to call you back I'd call the AMA immediately and report this... I'd also call the better business bureau and report him too. Its awful that you are having to put up with this,, its very unprofessional, to say the least.. but I'd report him immediately! jaxSheena <mom4possums2002 > wrote: Well, I know my request made it into the computer today for them

all to see, but the GI Doc still didn't call. At what point do you suppose I could start flinging this lovely word around, am I expecting too much, too soon? I find it mighty odd that they are refusing to let me make a return appointment. He has had the Cat Scan results since November 22nd.. Seeing another GI was not mentioned, except by my Primary and he said I would have to start over at square 1 with a consultation, at least an 8 week wait.. Treatment.. Thankfully I saw a second opinion doctor and started on Supplements in October, she has at least, I am very sure bought me more time.. I will be lucky to get started on tx as soon as , the way things are going.. I am also Geneotype 1... Sheena Jackie on

<redjaxjm > wrote: Well its better to change docs BEFORE you start tx than to have to do this in the middle of your tx! Abandonment applies to a doc who turfs you without providing for continuing medical care honey. We learned all about that in paramedic school because we too had to make sure to turn the patient over to someone of at least my training or higher meaning that I could only turn over my patient to another paramedic or nurse or doc,, never to an emt basic.. and a doc cannot stop treating you as a patient without making sure you have another doc to treat you OR HE IS guilty of abandonment! Dont let this jackass push you around honey! please let us know how things turn out! hugs jaxSheena <mom4possums2002 >

wrote: And I have to find a new GI before I ever consider it, can you EVEN imagine.. It was sure best that I never got started on tx yet... Wishing you the best! Sheena <marvindamartian05 > wrote: That will be cool! It sound funny but I can't wait for my first shot!!I want to let this dragon know that i mean business. First I have tolet the insurance company know that i mean business, lol!> > > > >> > > > > Hi Sue,> > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the nice welcome. > > > > > > > > > > I stopped drinking in the early 90's after a bad alcohol > > > > experience. Two (strong) drinks knocked me on my butt and I was > > > sick > > > > for several days afterwards. That was enough for me so I haven't > > > had > > > > an alcoholic beverage since. Makes me wonder if the disease was > > > > present at that time.... probably!> > > > > >

> > > > I'll be considering everything that I eat, drink or medicate > > > with > > > > very carefully from now on. I just wish I could have found out > > > about > > > > this much, much earlier. I'm hoping that if there is liver damage > > > > that it'll be minimal or none at all.> > > > > > > > > > I've gotten hold of a few meditation CDs to try to reducestress > > > > and will be giving one or two a try later today. I don't work > > > outside > > > > of our home so that's a plus in a lot of ways insofar as this > > > disease > > > > is concerned. I do some website maintenance and graphic editing > > > here > > > > at home on occasion and those tasks can be done at myconvenience -> > > > > > > this is good,

too.> > > > > > > > > > I'll be paying very close attention to all posts within the > > > group! > > > > I'm sure I'm going to learn lots from everyone here. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks again,> > > > > > > > > > -Laurie> > > > > > > > > > Re: Intro> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Laurie!> > > > > > > > > > > >

Welcome to the Group! You are in the right place...I wasright > > > > where> > > > > > you are just 3 months ago - shocked, scared and confused. I > > > will > > > > tell> > > > > > you that knowledge is power for sure. This group will helpyou > > > a> > > > > > lot,and I also encourage you to find a support group in your > > > area.> > > > > > > > > > > > If you haven't already - Stop drinking alcohol, even Nyquil, > > > > etc.! And> > > > > > start eating medicinally, remembering everything you consume, > > > > inhale,> > > > > > etc. can either help or hurt your liver.> > > > > > > > > > > > Read everything you can, and get used to to the idea that you > >

> MUST> > > > > > become your own advocate for your health. Don't be surprised > > > if, > > > > at> > > > > > times, you feel like you know more about your body, symptoms > > > and > > > > the> > > > > > disease than your own doctor.> > > > > > > > > > > > Be positive, and embrace your faith in God. This will help > > > more > > > > than> > > > > > you can imagine. Learn to breathe, really breathe, in through > > > your> > > > > > nose, and out through your mouth. Not only will this relax > > > you, it> > > > > > actually massages and stimulates the liver!> > > > > > > > > > > > I know it is hard to relax, but you have to - stress weakens

> > > the> > > > > > immune system and that is something you don't need!> > > > > > > > > > > > Finally - listen to Jackie, Janet, Liz and the other folks in > > > this> > > > > > group who have been there, done that. No question is toosmall > > > or > > > > big,> > > > > > and if they don't know the answer they try and find out!> > > > > > > > > > > > God Bless You,> > > > > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------> > > Access over 1 million songs - Music Unlimited. > > > > > > > > > > > >

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Hey no worry hun , I am getting used to dealing with wacko's . I had one doc refuse to do a gastric procedure on me cause they said it would transmit the hep c . And another one told me that hep c doesnt kill at all . And I saw these doc's within the last 3 yrs . I used to have an HMO , what you have to do is get the doc to appeal any denials that you have gotten for treatment . It takes a few more weeks but usually you can get your way .......you just have to work harder for it.Sheena <mom4possums2002@...> wrote: Thank you ALL! Well, there is no doubt on 1. and 2. and trying to get it resolved long before it might hit 3. and 4.! As soon as my oldest son returns from Sacramento this week, there will be non stop flinging going on.. Stay tuned.. what a Soap Opera.. I hope my fight will someday help others... Tim, I really got a kick out of your advice, standing outside the clinic with a sign, I sure laughed and laughed.. I pictured the sign with his picture plastered all over it, LOL.. It is a bit difficult to understand, but a fact, that I can't just "change" doctors, not with an HMO. Hubby's Insurance is through his job, changes can be made ONLY once a year at open enrollment, though very likely I am

now stuck anyway, due to the "pre-existing" condition. No one is going to want me.. Liz, I am appalled at your treatment, as well, I am so very sorry that you had to go through that! Sheena Jackie on <redjaxjm > wrote: THANK you Janet!Janet <doc_jade > wrote: Total agreement with Jackie. Sheena listen to what this lady has to say. Love JanetJackie on <redjaxjm > wrote: Sheena I'd be flinging it around right now!!! Abandonment is a very serious issue and if you were to suddenly get worse, and he refused to return your calls, his NEGLIGENCE could cause you further illness.. For a doc to be found guilty of Negligence, there are 4 things required 1. The doc had a duty to respond ( he does because he is your doc of record at this time) 2. He didnt respond 3. You became worse, or had something bad happen to you 4. The bad thing happened to you BECAUSE of his lack of responding.. Remember honey, this disease moves in decades,, you do have time to find a new doc but since he was your doc when they found the tumor.. so

he HAS to deal with it,, I mean, he might send you to a surgeon or some specialist but he still NEEDS to call you back I'd call the AMA immediately and report this... I'd also call the better business bureau and report him too. Its awful that you are having to put up with this,, its very unprofessional, to say the least.. but I'd report him immediately! jaxSheena <mom4possums2002 > wrote: Well, I know my request made it into the computer today for them all to see, but the GI Doc still didn't call. At what point do you suppose I could start flinging this lovely word around, am I expecting too much, too soon? I find it mighty odd that they are refusing to let me make a return

appointment. He has had the Cat Scan results since November 22nd.. Seeing another GI was not mentioned, except by my Primary and he said I would have to start over at square 1 with a consultation, at least an 8 week wait.. Treatment.. Thankfully I saw a second opinion doctor and started on Supplements in October, she has at least, I am very sure bought me more time.. I will be lucky to get started on tx as soon as , the way things are going.. I am also Geneotype 1... Sheena Jackie on <redjaxjm > wrote: Well its better to change docs BEFORE you start tx than to have to do this in the middle of your tx! Abandonment applies to a doc who turfs you without providing for continuing medical care honey. We learned all about that in paramedic school because we too had to make sure to turn the patient over to someone of at least my training or higher meaning that I could only turn over my patient to another paramedic or nurse or doc,, never to an emt basic.. and a doc cannot stop treating you as a patient without making sure you have another doc to treat you OR HE IS guilty of abandonment! Dont let this jackass push you around honey! please let us know how things turn out! hugs jaxSheena <mom4possums2002 > wrote: And I have to find a new GI before I ever consider it, can you EVEN imagine.. It was sure best that I never got started on tx yet... Wishing you the best! Sheena <marvindamartian05 > wrote: That will be cool! It sound funny but I can't wait for my first shot!!I want to let this dragon know that i mean business. First I have tolet the insurance company know that i mean business, lol!> > > > >> > > > > Hi Sue,> > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the nice welcome. > > > > > > > > > > I stopped drinking in the early 90's after a bad alcohol > > > > experience. Two (strong) drinks knocked me on my butt and I was > > > sick > > > > for several days afterwards. That was enough for me so I haven't > > > had > > > > an alcoholic beverage since. Makes me wonder if the disease was > > > > present at that time.... probably!> > > > > > > > > > I'll be considering everything that I eat, drink or medicate > > > with > > > > very carefully from now

on. I just wish I could have found out > > > about > > > > this much, much earlier. I'm hoping that if there is liver damage > > > > that it'll be minimal or none at all.> > > > > > > > > > I've gotten hold of a few meditation CDs to try to reducestress > > > > and will be giving one or two a try later today. I don't work > > > outside > > > > of our home so that's a plus in a lot of ways insofar as this > > > disease > > > > is concerned. I do some website maintenance and graphic editing > > > here > > > > at home on occasion and those tasks can be done at myconvenience -> > > > > > > this is good, too.> > > > > > > > > > I'll be paying very close attention to all posts within the > > > group! >

> > > I'm sure I'm going to learn lots from everyone here. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks again,> > > > > > > > > > -Laurie> > > > > > > > > > Re: Intro> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Laurie!> > > > > > > > > > > > Welcome to the Group! You are in the right place...I wasright > > > > where> > > > > > you are just 3 months ago -

shocked, scared and confused. I > > > will > > > > tell> > > > > > you that knowledge is power for sure. This group will helpyou > > > a> > > > > > lot,and I also encourage you to find a support group in your > > > area.> > > > > > > > > > > > If you haven't already - Stop drinking alcohol, even Nyquil, > > > > etc.! And> > > > > > start eating medicinally, remembering everything you consume, > > > > inhale,> > > > > > etc. can either help or hurt your liver.> > > > > > > > > > > > Read everything you can, and get used to to the idea that you > > > MUST> > > > > > become your own advocate for your health. Don't be surprised > > > if, > > > >

at> > > > > > times, you feel like you know more about your body, symptoms > > > and > > > > the> > > > > > disease than your own doctor.> > > > > > > > > > > > Be positive, and embrace your faith in God. This will help > > > more > > > > than> > > > > > you can imagine. Learn to breathe, really breathe, in through > > > your> > > > > > nose, and out through your mouth. Not only will this relax > > > you, it> > > > > > actually massages and stimulates the liver!> > > > > > > > > > > > I know it is hard to relax, but you have to - stress weakens > > > the> > > > > > immune system and that is something you don't need!> > > > > > > >

> > > > Finally - listen to Jackie, Janet, Liz and the other folks in > > > this> > > > > > group who have been there, done that. No question is toosmall > > > or > > > > big,> > > > > > and if they don't know the answer they try and find out!> > > > > > > > > > > > God Bless You,> > > > > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------> > > Access over 1 million songs - Music Unlimited. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jackie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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Lots of whacko doc's, it seems.. :-o Thanks for the reminder to keep at 'em, there's still hope.. Sheena elizabeth savage <elizabethnv1@...> wrote: Hey no worry hun , I am getting used to dealing with wacko's . I had one doc refuse to do a gastric procedure on me cause they said it would transmit the hep c . And another one told me that hep c doesnt kill at all . And I saw these doc's within the last 3 yrs .

I used to have an HMO , what you have to do is get the doc to appeal any denials that you have gotten for treatment . It takes a few more weeks but usually you can get your way .......you just have to work harder for it.Sheena <mom4possums2002 > wrote: Thank you ALL! Well, there is no doubt on 1. and 2. and trying to get it resolved long before it might hit 3. and 4.! As soon as my oldest son returns from Sacramento this week, there will be non stop flinging going on.. Stay tuned.. what a Soap Opera.. I hope my fight will someday help others... Tim, I really got a kick out of your advice, standing outside the clinic with a sign, I sure laughed

and laughed.. I pictured the sign with his picture plastered all over it, LOL.. It is a bit difficult to understand, but a fact, that I can't just "change" doctors, not with an HMO. Hubby's Insurance is through his job, changes can be made ONLY once a year at open enrollment, though very likely I am now stuck anyway, due to the "pre-existing" condition. No one is going to want me.. Liz, I am appalled at your treatment, as well, I am so very sorry that you had to go through that! Sheena Jackie on <redjaxjm > wrote: THANK you Janet!Janet <doc_jade > wrote: Total agreement with Jackie. Sheena listen to what this lady has to say. Love JanetJackie on <redjaxjm > wrote: Sheena I'd be flinging it around right now!!! Abandonment is a very serious issue and if you were to suddenly get worse, and he refused to return your calls, his NEGLIGENCE could cause you further illness.. For a doc to be found guilty of Negligence, there are 4 things required 1. The doc had a duty to respond (

he does because he is your doc of record at this time) 2. He didnt respond 3. You became worse, or had something bad happen to you 4. The bad thing happened to you BECAUSE of his lack of responding.. Remember honey, this disease moves in decades,, you do have time to find a new doc but since he was your doc when they found the tumor.. so he HAS to deal with it,, I mean, he might send you to a surgeon or some specialist but he still NEEDS to call you back I'd call the AMA immediately and report this... I'd also call the better business bureau and report him too. Its awful that you are having to put up with this,, its very unprofessional, to say the least.. but I'd report him immediately! jaxSheena <mom4possums2002 > wrote: Well, I know my request made it into the computer today for them all to see, but the GI Doc still didn't call. At what point do you suppose I could start flinging this lovely word around, am I expecting too much, too soon? I find it mighty odd that they are refusing to let me make a return appointment. He has had the Cat Scan results since November 22nd.. Seeing another GI was not mentioned, except by my Primary and he said I would have to start over at square 1 with a consultation, at least an 8 week wait.. Treatment.. Thankfully I saw a second opinion doctor and started on Supplements in October, she has at least, I am very sure bought me more time.. I will be lucky to get started on tx as soon as , the way things are going.. I am also Geneotype 1... Sheena Jackie on <redjaxjm > wrote: Well its better to change docs BEFORE you start tx than to have to do this in the middle of your tx! Abandonment applies to a doc who turfs you without providing for continuing medical care honey. We learned all about that in paramedic school because we too had to make sure to turn the patient over to someone of at least my training or higher meaning that I could only turn over my patient to another paramedic or nurse or doc,, never to an emt basic.. and a doc cannot stop treating you as a patient without making sure you have another doc to treat you OR HE IS guilty of abandonment! Dont let this jackass push you around honey! please let us know how things turn

out! hugs jaxSheena <mom4possums2002 > wrote: And I have to find a new GI before I ever consider it, can you EVEN imagine.. It was sure best that I never got started on tx yet... Wishing you the best! Sheena <marvindamartian05 > wrote: That will be cool! It sound funny but I can't wait for my first shot!!I want to let this dragon know that i mean business. First I have tolet the insurance company know that i mean business, lol!---

In Hepatitis C , Janet <doc_jade@...> wrote:>> I am supposed to see my NEW Hep C doctor in April so heck wemight be starting treatment again together.> Anyway I hope so.> Love> Janet> > <marvindamartian05@...> wrote:> Kerri~> > I was feeling just like you describe until a few week ago - I detoxed> my body and started taking supplements and vitamins, etc., and this is> the most important thing...drinking LOTS of water. I feel almost> normal again! I know it's mainly the hydration, because yesterday I> had to drive up to Pasadena for a meeting, and didn't drink my usual> amount of water (didn't want to have to make multiple stops!) and by 4> in the afternoon, I was just shot!> > I won't be able to start treatment until at

least April due to> insurance issues, so I am trying to get, and stay as healthy as> possible beforehand. Since I detoxed (not only stopped alcohol, fast> food, processed food, etc but also got them out of my system!) and> started "super-hydrating", it has made all the difference.> > I know that ALL of the junk isn't out of my body (fat cells store> toxins for years) but much of it is. While you are detoxing, you will> feel like crap...I warn you. Your skin will break out, you will have> diarrhea, BUT that is the body ridding itself of poison. While you are> getting rid of poison and replacing it with good stuff (water, organic> food, supplements) your body goes through a transition period and then> you come out "on the other side"...feeling much better. I now have no> craving for alcohol, fast food, etc. I tried to take a bite of a> whopper a few weeks ago, and it tasted

like garbage. Couldn't wait to> get a hold of some fruit salad!> > I have lost 11 lbs, and someone at work said to me the other day "what> are you doing? you look great!". Just 2 months ago I looked bloated,> dark circles under eyes, etc. Now skin is glowing, eyes are clear,> weight is finally coming off. I am starting to feel less like a> "person with a disease", and now I feel like socializing again.> > Good Luck! > > > > > > >> > > > > Hi Sue,> > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the nice welcome. > > > > > > > > > > I stopped drinking in the early 90's after a bad alcohol > > > > experience. Two (strong) drinks knocked me on my butt and I was > > > sick > > > > for several days afterwards. That was enough for me so I haven't > > > had > > > > an alcoholic beverage since. Makes me wonder if the disease was > > > > present at that time.... probably!> > > > > >

> > > > I'll be considering everything that I eat, drink or medicate > > > with > > > > very carefully from now on. I just wish I could have found out > > > about > > > > this much, much earlier. I'm hoping that if there is liver damage > > > > that it'll be minimal or none at all.> > > > > > > > > > I've gotten hold of a few meditation CDs to try to reducestress > > > > and will be giving one or two a try later today. I don't work > > > outside > > > > of our home so that's a plus in a lot of ways insofar as this > > > disease > > > > is concerned. I do some website maintenance and graphic editing > > > here > > > > at home on occasion and those tasks can be done at myconvenience -> > > > > > > this is good,

too.> > > > > > > > > > I'll be paying very close attention to all posts within the > > > group! > > > > I'm sure I'm going to learn lots from everyone here. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks again,> > > > > > > > > > -Laurie> > > > > > > > > > Re: Intro> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Laurie!> > > > > > > > > > > >

Welcome to the Group! You are in the right place...I wasright > > > > where> > > > > > you are just 3 months ago - shocked, scared and confused. I > > > will > > > > tell> > > > > > you that knowledge is power for sure. This group will helpyou > > > a> > > > > > lot,and I also encourage you to find a support group in your > > > area.> > > > > > > > > > > > If you haven't already - Stop drinking alcohol, even Nyquil, > > > > etc.! And> > > > > > start eating medicinally, remembering everything you consume, > > > > inhale,> > > > > > etc. can either help or hurt your liver.> > > > > > > > > > > > Read everything you can, and get used to to the idea that you > >

> MUST> > > > > > become your own advocate for your health. Don't be surprised > > > if, > > > > at> > > > > > times, you feel like you know more about your body, symptoms > > > and > > > > the> > > > > > disease than your own doctor.> > > > > > > > > > > > Be positive, and embrace your faith in God. This will help > > > more > > > > than> > > > > > you can imagine. Learn to breathe, really breathe, in through > > > your> > > > > > nose, and out through your mouth. Not only will this relax > > > you, it> > > > > > actually massages and stimulates the liver!> > > > > > > > > > > > I know it is hard to relax, but you have to - stress weakens

> > > the> > > > > > immune system and that is something you don't need!> > > > > > > > > > > > Finally - listen to Jackie, Janet, Liz and the other folks in > > > this> > > > > > group who have been there, done that. No question is toosmall > > > or > > > > big,> > > > > > and if they don't know the answer they try and find out!> > > > > > > > > > > > God Bless You,> > > > > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------> > > Access over 1 million songs - Music Unlimited. > > > > > > > > > > > >

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Yeah that's the trick , you just dont let them get away with denials . Fight fight fight , there is always ways around denial's. It helps to have a doc that is on your side....And you can always go to the AMASheena <mom4possums2002@...> wrote: Lots of whacko doc's, it seems.. :-o Thanks for the reminder to keep at 'em, there's still hope.. Sheena elizabeth savage

<elizabethnv1 > wrote: Hey no worry hun , I am getting used to dealing with wacko's . I had one doc refuse to do a gastric procedure on me cause they said it would transmit the hep c . And another one told me that hep c doesnt kill at all . And I saw these doc's within the last 3 yrs . I used to have an HMO , what you have to do is get the doc to appeal any denials that you have gotten for treatment . It takes a few more weeks but usually you can get your way .......you just have to work harder for it.Sheena <mom4possums2002 > wrote: Thank you ALL! Well, there is no doubt on 1. and 2. and trying to get

it resolved long before it might hit 3. and 4.! As soon as my oldest son returns from Sacramento this week, there will be non stop flinging going on.. Stay tuned.. what a Soap Opera.. I hope my fight will someday help others... Tim, I really got a kick out of your advice, standing outside the clinic with a sign, I sure laughed and laughed.. I pictured the sign with his picture plastered all over it, LOL.. It is a bit difficult to understand, but a fact, that I can't just "change" doctors, not with an HMO. Hubby's Insurance is through his job, changes can be made ONLY once a year at open enrollment, though very likely I am now stuck anyway, due to the "pre-existing" condition. No one is going to want me.. Liz, I am appalled at your treatment, as well, I am so very sorry that you had to go through that! Sheena Jackie on <redjaxjm > wrote: THANK you Janet!Janet <doc_jade > wrote: Total agreement with Jackie. Sheena listen to what this lady has to say. Love JanetJackie on <redjaxjm > wrote: Sheena I'd be flinging it around right now!!! Abandonment is a very serious issue and if you were to suddenly get worse, and he refused to return your calls, his NEGLIGENCE could cause you further illness.. For a doc to be found guilty of Negligence, there are 4 things required 1. The doc had a duty to respond ( he does because he is your doc of record at this time) 2. He didnt respond 3. You became worse, or had something bad happen to you 4. The bad thing happened to you BECAUSE of his lack of responding.. Remember honey, this disease moves in decades,, you do have time to find a new doc but since he was your doc when they found the tumor.. so he HAS to deal with it,, I mean, he might send you to a surgeon or some specialist but he still NEEDS to call you back I'd

call the AMA immediately and report this... I'd also call the better business bureau and report him too. Its awful that you are having to put up with this,, its very unprofessional, to say the least.. but I'd report him immediately! jaxSheena <mom4possums2002 > wrote: Well, I know my request made it into the computer today for them all to see, but the GI Doc still didn't call. At what point do you suppose I could start flinging this lovely word around, am I expecting too much, too soon? I find it mighty odd that they are refusing to let me make a return appointment. He has had the Cat Scan results since November 22nd.. Seeing another GI was not mentioned, except by my

Primary and he said I would have to start over at square 1 with a consultation, at least an 8 week wait.. Treatment.. Thankfully I saw a second opinion doctor and started on Supplements in October, she has at least, I am very sure bought me more time.. I will be lucky to get started on tx as soon as , the way things are going.. I am also Geneotype 1... Sheena Jackie on <redjaxjm > wrote: Well its better to change docs BEFORE you start tx than to have to do this in the middle of your tx! Abandonment applies to a doc who turfs you without providing for continuing medical care honey. We learned all about that in paramedic school

because we too had to make sure to turn the patient over to someone of at least my training or higher meaning that I could only turn over my patient to another paramedic or nurse or doc,, never to an emt basic.. and a doc cannot stop treating you as a patient without making sure you have another doc to treat you OR HE IS guilty of abandonment! Dont let this jackass push you around honey! please let us know how things turn out! hugs jaxSheena <mom4possums2002 > wrote: And I have to find a new GI before I ever consider it, can you EVEN imagine.. It was sure best that I never got started on tx yet... Wishing you the best! Sheena <marvindamartian05 > wrote: That will be cool! It sound funny but I can't wait for my first shot!!I want to let this dragon know that i mean business. First I have tolet the insurance company know that i mean business, lol!> > > > >> > > > > Hi Sue,> > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the nice welcome. > > > > > > > > > >

I stopped drinking in the early 90's after a bad alcohol > > > > experience. Two (strong) drinks knocked me on my butt and I was > > > sick > > > > for several days afterwards. That was enough for me so I haven't > > > had > > > > an alcoholic beverage since. Makes me wonder if the disease was > > > > present at that time.... probably!> > > > > > > > > > I'll be considering everything that I eat, drink or medicate > > > with > > > > very carefully from now on. I just wish I could have found out > > > about > > > > this much, much earlier. I'm hoping that if there is liver damage > > > > that it'll be minimal or none at all.> > > > > > > > > > I've gotten hold of a few meditation CDs to try to reducestress > > > > and

will be giving one or two a try later today. I don't work > > > outside > > > > of our home so that's a plus in a lot of ways insofar as this > > > disease > > > > is concerned. I do some website maintenance and graphic editing > > > here > > > > at home on occasion and those tasks can be done at myconvenience -> > > > > > > this is good, too.> > > > > > > > > > I'll be paying very close attention to all posts within the > > > group! > > > > I'm sure I'm going to learn lots from everyone here. > > > > > > > > > > Thanks again,> > > > > > > > > > -Laurie> > > > > > > > > > Re: Intro> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Laurie!> > > > > > > > > > > > Welcome to the Group! You are in the right place...I wasright > > > > where> > > > > > you are just 3 months ago - shocked, scared and confused. I > > > will > > > > tell> > > > > > you that knowledge is power for sure. This group will helpyou > > > a> > > > > > lot,and I also encourage you to find a support group in your > > > area.> >

> > > > > > > > > > If you haven't already - Stop drinking alcohol, even Nyquil, > > > > etc.! And> > > > > > start eating medicinally, remembering everything you consume, > > > > inhale,> > > > > > etc. can either help or hurt your liver.> > > > > > > > > > > > Read everything you can, and get used to to the idea that you > > > MUST> > > > > > become your own advocate for your health. Don't be surprised > > > if, > > > > at> > > > > > times, you feel like you know more about your body, symptoms > > > and > > > > the> > > > > > disease than your own doctor.> > > > > > > > > > > > Be positive, and embrace your faith in God. This will help

> > > more > > > > than> > > > > > you can imagine. Learn to breathe, really breathe, in through > > > your> > > > > > nose, and out through your mouth. Not only will this relax > > > you, it> > > > > > actually massages and stimulates the liver!> > > > > > > > > > > > I know it is hard to relax, but you have to - stress weakens > > > the> > > > > > immune system and that is something you don't need!> > > > > > > > > > > > Finally - listen to Jackie, Janet, Liz and the other folks in > > > this> > > > > > group who have been there, done that. No question is toosmall > > > or > > > > big,> > > > > > and if they don't know the answer they try and

find out!> > > > > > > > > > > > God Bless You,> > > > > > > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------> > > Access over 1 million songs - Music Unlimited. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jackie > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------> > > Access over 1 million songs - Music Unlimited.> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Take the ordinary things of life, and make them your own. Do the> impossible with a smile

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