Guest guest Posted July 22, 2001 Report Share Posted July 22, 2001 At 04:37 PM 7/22/01 -0700, you wrote: >Bus Ugh Oh, I *like* 's vocabulary! Kathy, Andy is a nontalker. He has a reliable " yah " and that's about it. j Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2001 Report Share Posted July 22, 2001 Yes, I know of twins age 12 I think, that are non-verbal. I have had one of them in the class that I co-uped. I've babysatt both of them a few times. Their mom said last time that I babysatt witch was about 3 months ago that the school is going to teach them sign language. I was thinking that they could have used sign when they were younger, but the sonner the better then not learning it. Well if you have any questions, I'll be sure to answer it, since your in the same boat with your child around the age. --- UrthMan <outerspace@...> wrote: > Hi Everyone, > Just a quick question!! > I notice that there are many children on this list > that can talk. Even if they are two words - they > seem to be able to verbally express their thoughts, > wants, needs. > > SO. . . .my question is. . . Are there any children > on the list who are totally non-verbal?? > is 11 1/2 and NEVER talks. He probably has 3-5 > words that are understood by someone > else other than his family. Almost 8 years of > speech therapy and he has many sounds, blends, > etc. that he cannot reproduce, as hard as he tries. > The icons are a life-saver. He is able to spell > words, and read words that are written on paper. He > does read his sentence strips that we make for him > and he is > able to form sentences using individual words that I > have on index cards. He will form sentences such > as: > I want cereal, I need a bowl, I take bath, etc. He > reads the sentence, but his words are > unintelligible, > and he tries so hard to imitate us when we help > pronounce the word. He would go all day without > ever talking if we did not force him to answer us ( > usually every 1/2 hour we say, " - Hi " and he > will answer > us with a " Hi " - his version) He likes to sing along > with certain commercials that have catchy tunes and > he > loves the opening songs from the DREW CAREY show. > He has a great laugh, and a great big growl at > times. He has never been able to say our names, > until recently, he will say " add-ee " (daddy) he > calls > me " B " (mommy) or " AAHH " (mama) > Examples: > Milk AH > Juice Jew > Cot > Bus Ugh > > On and On. . . anyone else have a child about > 's age that is non-verbal and non-english > sounding > If other small children ask, " What is he saying? " I > tell them he speaks in Russian, German, and Japanese > and he working on his English!! > Bye > > Kathy > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > -------------------------------------------------- > Checkout our homepage for information, > bookmarks, and photos of our kids. Share favorite > bookmarks, ideas, and other information by including > them. Don't forget, messages are a permanent record > of the archives for our list. > > -------------------------------------------- > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2001 Report Share Posted July 22, 2001 well nathan just started verbalizing over this last year, i have to give dr jim over in communicating group the big thank you for all his help in this area. But nathan soon to be 10yrs, is very hard to understand we have learned many " nathan words " to understand the few things he does request, like library is something like rotweiler,lol not sure how to write his pronunciation. Nahtan can read around 50-60 words, and can spell some too. I read in a book on adolescents w/ds and it says teaching to read is one of the most important, it helps trememdously with language, speech, and vocabulary, and communication skills, and id have to say i agree the more nathan learns to read words, the better he is at communicating, even if he still has to resort to pics or sign to get his pronunciation across, this will take longer to get, so im told, i keep praying it will come. shawna >From: " UrthMan " <outerspace@...> >Reply- >< > >Subject: non-verbal >Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2001 16:37:59 -0700 > >Hi Everyone, >Just a quick question!! >I notice that there are many children on this list that can talk. Even if >they are two words - they >seem to be able to verbally express their thoughts, wants, needs. > >SO. . . .my question is. . . Are there any children on the list who are >totally non-verbal?? > is 11 1/2 and NEVER talks. He probably has 3-5 words that are >understood by someone >else other than his family. Almost 8 years of speech therapy and he has >many sounds, blends, >etc. that he cannot reproduce, as hard as he tries. The icons are a >life-saver. He is able to spell words, and read words that are written on >paper. He does read his sentence strips that we make for him and he is >able to form sentences using individual words that I have on index cards. >He will form sentences such as: >I want cereal, I need a bowl, I take bath, etc. He reads the sentence, but >his words are unintelligible, >and he tries so hard to imitate us when we help pronounce the word. He >would go all day without >ever talking if we did not force him to answer us ( usually every 1/2 hour >we say, " - Hi " and he will answer >us with a " Hi " - his version) He likes to sing along with certain >commercials that have catchy tunes and he >loves the opening songs from the DREW CAREY show. He has a great laugh, >and a great big growl at >times. He has never been able to say our names, until recently, he will >say " add-ee " (daddy) he calls >me " B " (mommy) or " AAHH " (mama) >Examples: >Milk AH >Juice Jew > Cot >Bus Ugh > >On and On. . . anyone else have a child about 's age that is >non-verbal and non-english sounding >If other small children ask, " What is he saying? " I tell them he speaks in >Russian, German, and Japanese >and he working on his English!! >Bye > >Kathy > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2001 Report Share Posted July 22, 2001 Kathy, JJ is completely non-verbal!! At one time he would say " hhooommmme " as we came aroulnd the corner to the house. He mostly hums depanding on his level of frustration. And he seldom cries. But since we took him off meds(except Prozac) he will laugh. I agree , Icons have been a life saver this year. & Garry, parents of (10 ds), (9 ds), JJ (7 ds/autism/celiac), (6 ds/ADHD/Celiac), and Esther (4 ds). All adopted. ---------- >From: " UrthMan " <outerspace@...> >< > >Subject: non-verbal >Date: Sun, Jul 22, 2001, 3:37 PM > >Hi Everyone, >Just a quick question!! >I notice that there are many children on this list that can talk. Even if >they are two words - they >seem to be able to verbally express their thoughts, wants, needs. > >SO. . . .my question is. . . Are there any children on the list who are >totally non-verbal?? > is 11 1/2 and NEVER talks. He probably has 3-5 words that are >understood by someone >else other than his family. Almost 8 years of speech therapy and he has >many sounds, blends, >etc. that he cannot reproduce, as hard as he tries. The icons are a >life-saver. He is able to spell words, and read words that are written on >paper. He does read his sentence strips that we make for him and he is >able to form sentences using individual words that I have on index cards. >He will form sentences such as: >I want cereal, I need a bowl, I take bath, etc. He reads the sentence, but >his words are unintelligible, >and he tries so hard to imitate us when we help pronounce the word. He >would go all day without >ever talking if we did not force him to answer us ( usually every 1/2 hour >we say, " - Hi " and he will answer >us with a " Hi " - his version) He likes to sing along with certain >commercials that have catchy tunes and he >loves the opening songs from the DREW CAREY show. He has a great laugh, >and a great big growl at >times. He has never been able to say our names, until recently, he will >say " add-ee " (daddy) he calls >me " B " (mommy) or " AAHH " (mama) >Examples: >Milk AH >Juice Jew > Cot >Bus Ugh > >On and On. . . anyone else have a child about 's age that is >non-verbal and non-english sounding >If other small children ask, " What is he saying? " I tell them he speaks in >Russian, German, and Japanese >and he working on his English!! >Bye > >Kathy > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2001 Report Share Posted July 24, 2001 Kathy, is non-verbal. The only word she uses consistently is " ba-ba " for drink. She will say " Ma-Ma, Da-Dah-ee, Na-na(her worker, Lana), Aa-lay(Haydee, her friend), la-la (music or I love you) if we prompt her & really coax her. She will sing " ee-i-ee-i-oh " (Old Mac) if we coax. She grunts, yells,etc. too. is really too low-functioning to take in words(in print). She has just been assessed by a psychologist to be 14-18 months cognitively. I've been wanting to do more with PECS , visual strategies,etc., & last week I went to a workshop where SLP's help parents design schedules with pics, etc. Well, we started back in the winter with actual photographs (Steph's outdoor dressing routine) & I am still not convinced that she " sees " the picture. She has learned to point & when we say " Point to the _____ " , she will point to whatever is closest, not really discriminating. The SLP who worked with me at the workshop suggested that we stick to pictures (photos) for now until we are convinced that she is discriminating consistently. ly, I don't see that day coming for a long, long time. Terry, We haven't heard from you for a long time. I was wondering what sorts of things you have tried with for communication. I feel that we have a lot in common since & are at similar cognitive levels & cronological ages (Steph turns 14 on Thurs.) We've tried signs & we still sign to her a lot, but she has only learned about 6 signs & only uses 2 consistently & self-initiating. Bath, I'm very interested in hearing about how certain meds can open up the language centre in the brain. My husband is very opposed to putting on any meds (maybe partly because of all the chemo she was on when she had leuk.) This is the one parenting issue that we don't agree on - I'd like to try something (meds). Anyway, I guess we need to have Steph re-evaluated by a ped. psychiatrist. It was also great to hear that SI therapy & swinging also brought out the language. We're going to be having regular SI therapy in the Fall, so I'll look forward to checking this out. Both my husband & I are singers & we sing to Steph a lot. She loves music but rarely participates vocally. , Glad to hear you had a good vacation in Watertown. My aunt is 80 & she is a St. ph nun there. She has been a nun for 60 years! It's a nice town. Small world,eh? Hope the flu is no longer at your house. To everyone who's having e-mail problems, I get the Digest form of the List with no problems & I can acces the website & check most recent posts, etc. also without a problem. I know how frustrating it can be when you're out of touch with this wonderful group. It's such a life-line for so many of us! Hugs & prayers to everyone, especially C.K. If you have a minute, C.K., please let me know where in NY State Pathfinders is located. Thanks. I'd like to close with one last thought. You know the more I think about it, I think it's really O.K. that Steph is non-verbal. I think I've accepted that it's just a part of who she is. I have dreams like we all do where bursts into speech & I wake up disheartened that it was only a dream, but it's really O.K. that she doesn't talk. I'm not saying that we should give up on communication goals or stop trying new things, but once again it's O.K. that she's non-verbal! Mom to ,13 & ,7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2001 Report Share Posted July 25, 2001 In a message dated 7/24/01 12:58:36 PM Eastern Daylight Time, burnett@... writes: > I have dreams like we all do > where bursts into speech & I wake up disheartened that it was only > a dream, but it's really O.K. that she doesn't talk. I'm not saying that we > should give up on communication goals or stop trying new things, but once > again it's O.K. that she's non-verbal! , Well, surely you know you're not in that boat alone. I believe there's many on this list whose kids are non-verbal. does more than Maddie, but then Steph is older, so I have hopes that Maddie will be doing at least what Steph is doing. It's all relative, isn't it?!?!? Now, explaining to the other children about our ds/autism kid is a very hard thing sometimes. Last night, n (who is 15 and despite our conversation, VERY VERY bright) and I had a chat. He said " Maddie probably won't ever get married and have babies, will she Mom? " Took me by surprise, since at 15 and knowing Maddie the way he does, I assumed he understood that. I told him, no of course not, but even people who have no dx often don't marry and have children; it's not always in the cards for everybody. He said, bluntly,,, " That's really really sad Mom---Will she at least talk? " Whoa!!!!! LOLOL Sick, but I thought it was kind of funny that we went from marrying and raising children to talking. Are they connected???? LOLOL I know kids hate when parents don't have answers, but I had to be honest and tell him I really didn't know if she'd ever talk, but that yes, I do hope. But that in the meantime, we need to just enjoy her, help her learn, and learn all we can from her. Donna (in blazing hot Philly) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2001 Report Share Posted July 26, 2001 Hi, My son doesn't say a word, however he can make noises and tries to talk. It always seems like the message gets lost somewhere from the brain to the lips. He gets speech therapy to learn how to communicate with other methods. He's doing great and his therapist still works with him a little to strengthen mouth muscles for any verbalization. Judy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2001 Report Share Posted July 26, 2001 In a message dated 7/26/01 1:01:17 PM Eastern Daylight Time, judykeller@... writes: > My son doesn't say a word, however he can make noises and tries to talk. > It always seems like the message gets lost somewhere from the brain to the > lips. He gets speech therapy to learn how to communicate with other > methods. > He's doing great and his therapist still works with him a little to > strengthen mouth muscles for any verbalization. > > Judy > Maddie does not associate any sounds with any particular thing/person. But lately, Duff and I do this thing that gets sound out of her. It's something ONLY a mom or dad can do with their kid.....we put our lips on hers and make sounds and she'll imitate. I think she likes the vibrating feeling on her lips. It's really funny. But I told her therapist she could get arrested for trying it....LOL Hey, we do whatever works, right??? Donna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2001 Report Share Posted July 26, 2001 Yea, true. We do whatever works. That reminds me that I was younger much younger- and my mom did some of the stuff at home, that my therapist wanted my parents tried to do when I wasn't in thearpy sesion. --- duffey48@... wrote: > In a message dated 7/26/01 1:01:17 PM Eastern > Daylight Time, > judykeller@... writes: > > > > My son doesn't say a word, however he can make > noises and tries to talk. > > It always seems like the message gets lost > somewhere from the brain to the > > lips. He gets speech therapy to learn how to > communicate with other > > methods. > > He's doing great and his therapist still works > with him a little to > > strengthen mouth muscles for any verbalization. > > > > Judy > > > > Maddie does not associate any sounds with any > particular thing/person. But > lately, Duff and I do this thing that gets sound out > of her. It's something > ONLY a mom or dad can do with their kid.....we put > our lips on hers and make > sounds and she'll imitate. I think she likes the > vibrating feeling on her > lips. It's really funny. But I told her > therapist she could get arrested > for trying it....LOL Hey, we do whatever works, > right??? > Donna > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 8, 2009 Report Share Posted August 8, 2009 Wow, Husin. I don't know the community in Indonesia. I am not saying that Facial Reflexes is the key, and that is why it is important to get an evaluation and training for a home program. Any one reading this email from the Institute, do you have any ideas for help in Husin's are? I cannot imagine a program which teaches facial reflexes over the internet. You would really need face-to-face guidance and feedback to learn these techniques. Joan On Sat, 8 Aug 2009 05:53:55 +0000, Husin kolius wrote:>> Thank you, joan.> My child can make sound, verbalized only vocals, no intonation> patterns. She communicates by dragging me to what she wants or> doing what I command.> There's no masgutova practitioner in indonesia. Is there any> training via email for facial integration reflex?> Thank you>> Husin> Sent from my HusinBerry®> powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT> From: Joan Agosta> Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 23:08:59 -0400> < >> Subject: Non-verbal>> Hello Husin.> I am a practitioner and work with special needs children:> developmentally delay, pervasive developmental syndrome, downs> syndrome, autistic, ect. I have found that children improve their> speech noticeably often after just one treatment of facial reflex> integration. Does your child verbalize at all? Does she make> sounds? Does she imitate the intonation patterns of your language?> How does she communicate with you?>> Hopefully someone in your area will contact you so that you can> start a home program for your daughter.> Joan>> On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 22:52:41 +0000, Husin kolius wrote:>>>> Thank you, joan,>> How is your child speaking ability now?>> We live in Indonesia. She hasn't evaluated by masgutova>> specialist.>> Maybe someone know where's I can find one here in Indonesia.>>>> Sent from my HusinBerry®>> powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT>> From: Joan Agosta>> Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 11:22:44 -0400>> < >>> Subject: Non-verbal>>>> That depends on the child. Has your child been evaluated by a>> Masgutava specialist? I have gotten good results using Facial>> Integration Reflexes.>> Joan>>>> On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 09:30:04 +0000, Husin kolius wrote:>>> Halo, all.>>> My 6 yo ASD daughter still non verbal. Which reflex must I work>>> at?>>> Thank you for your response.>>>>>> Husin>>> Sent from my HusinBerry®>>> powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT>>>>>> ------------------------------------>>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2009 Report Share Posted August 9, 2009 Hi Husin, My daughter still gets other therapies. But minimum in SI, OT. Mostly in cognitive therapies. My daughter loves Maths, she can read, type & write with her very poor fine motor skills.I do the homeprogram of Masgutova method, a sometimes PT helps me to do some repatterning programs.I only spend about accumulative 1 hour a day to do the homeprogram. Not all I can do, considering some must be done by an expert in my opinion.My daughter is very easy to be overstimulated. I have to be patient to wait for the best moment to do all the exercises & to wait for the improvement.She gets other therapies. I like Masgutova method, since not take hours.Repatterning, Art, Balance Board, Tactile, some Archetype Movement programs of Svetlana are amazing for me.For oral motor, I need the Oral Motor tools to remind the positioning of the jaw, lips & tongue inhalation, exhalation beside the Facial Reflex Integration Program.Rgrds.From: Husin kolius <husinkolius@...> Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2009 8:37:51 AMSubject: Re: Non-verbal @rosa, How about your daughter development after your meeting with svetlana? Can you describe it more detail? Did you do another therapy? Thank you.Husin Sent from my HusinBerry®powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSATFrom: Marisa Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 09:13:18 -0700 (PDT)<childrenwithchallen gesgroups (DOT) com>Subject: Re: [childrenwithchalle nges] Non-verbal Precisely Diane.Husin (DOT) I live in Indonesia. I have a daughter with special needs (global delay, autism, seizures), also non verbal. We met Svetlana in the Camp in Singapore last December.Hope Svetlana will come to Asia again soon. None practicioner is in Indonesia.Rgrds.From: diane whiteside <dianewt3att (DOT) net>childrenwithchallen gesgroups (DOT) comSent: Friday, August 7, 2009 11:58:05 AMSubject: Re: [childrenwithchalle nges] Non-verbal Spinal galant, Robinsion grasp and ATNR are needed too. Diane> Halo, all.> My 6 yo ASD daughter still non verbal. Which reflex must I work at?> Thank you for your response.>> Husin> Sent from my HusinBerry®> powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT>> ------------ --------- --------- ------>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2009 Report Share Posted August 10, 2009 Dear Husin, My name is Yonie, I am the organizer of MNRI Camp in Singapore, last year. We have a few Associate 1 in Singapore and a wonderful lady an Associate 2 in Malaysia, Kuantan, Ms Erlinda. There is also a specialist in Hong Kong, Ms Donna Sun. I am not sure if their names or contacts are updated in the web-site. If you are able to travel you may want to contact them for session. To all associates in Asia reading this, Pls help to be pro-active in this group. Do help play your part in helping this work to grow & spread. It is an amazing technique. Yonie From: Husin kolius <husinkolius@...> Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2009 1:53:55 PMSubject: Re: Non-verbal Thank you, joan. My child can make sound, verbalized only vocals, no intonation patterns. She communicates by dragging me to what she wants or doing what I command. There's no masgutova practitioner in indonesia. Is there any training via email for facial integration reflex?Thank youHusin Sent from my HusinBerry®powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT From: Joan Agosta Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 23:08:59 -0400<childrenwithchallen gesgroups (DOT) com>Subject: [childrenwithchalle nges] Non-verbal Hello Husin. I am a practitioner and work with special needs children: developmentally delay, pervasive developmental syndrome, downs syndrome, autistic, ect. I have found that children improve their speech noticeably often after just one treatment of facial reflex integration. Does your child verbalize at all? Does she make sounds? Does she imitate the intonation patterns of your language? How does she communicate with you? Hopefully someone in your area will contact you so that you can start a home program for your daughter. Joan On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 22:52:41 +0000, Husin kolius wrote:>> Thank you, joan,> How is your child speaking ability now?> We live in Indonesia. She hasn't evaluated by masgutova specialist.> Maybe someone know where's I can find one here in Indonesia.>> Sent from my HusinBerry®> powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT> From: Joan Agosta> Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 11:22:44 -0400> <childrenwithchallen gesgroups (DOT) com>> Subject: [childrenwithchalle nges] Non-verbal>> That depends on the child. Has your child been evaluated by a> Masgutava specialist? I have gotten good results using Facial> Integration Reflexes.> Joan>> On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 09:30:04 +0000, Husin kolius wrote:>> Halo, all.>> My 6 yo ASD daughter still non verbal. Which reflex must I work>> at?>> Thank you for your response.>>>> Husin>> Sent from my HusinBerry®>> powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT>>>> ------------ --------- --------- ------>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2009 Report Share Posted August 10, 2009 Dear Yonie, When is the next Asia camp? Many thanks in advance, Best regards, Iris in the Philippines From: yy2crazy2b@...Date: Mon, 10 Aug 2009 08:35:49 -0700Subject: Re: Non-verbal Dear Husin, My name is Yonie, I am the organizer of MNRI Camp in Singapore, last year. We have a few Associate 1 in Singapore and a wonderful lady an Associate 2 in Malaysia, Kuantan, Ms Erlinda. There is also a specialist in Hong Kong, Ms Donna Sun. I am not sure if their names or contacts are updated in the web-site. If you are able to travel you may want to contact them for session. To all associates in Asia reading this, Pls help to be pro-active in this group. Do help play your part in helping this work to grow & spread. It is an amazing technique. Yonie From: Husin kolius <husinkolius > Sent: Saturday, August 8, 2009 1:53:55 PMSubject: Re: Non-verbal Thank you, joan. My child can make sound, verbalized only vocals, no intonation patterns. She communicates by dragging me to what she wants or doing what I command. There's no masgutova practitioner in indonesia. Is there any training via email for facial integration reflex?Thank youHusin Sent from my HusinBerry®powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT From: Joan Agosta Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 23:08:59 -0400<childrenwithchallen gesgroups (DOT) com>Subject: [childrenwithchalle nges] Non-verbal Hello Husin. I am a practitioner and work with special needs children: developmentally delay, pervasive developmental syndrome, downs syndrome, autistic, ect. I have found that children improve their speech noticeably often after just one treatment of facial reflex integration. Does your child verbalize at all? Does she make sounds? Does she imitate the intonation patterns of your language? How does she communicate with you? Hopefully someone in your area will contact you so that you can start a home program for your daughter. Joan On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 22:52:41 +0000, Husin kolius wrote:>> Thank you, joan,> How is your child speaking ability now?> We live in Indonesia. She hasn't evaluated by masgutova specialist.> Maybe someone know where's I can find one here in Indonesia.>> Sent from my HusinBerry®> powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT> From: Joan Agosta> Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 11:22:44 -0400> <childrenwithchallen gesgroups (DOT) com>> Subject: [childrenwithchalle nges] Non-verbal>> That depends on the child. Has your child been evaluated by a> Masgutava specialist? I have gotten good results using Facial> Integration Reflexes.> Joan>> On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 09:30:04 +0000, Husin kolius wrote:>> Halo, all.>> My 6 yo ASD daughter still non verbal. Which reflex must I work>> at?>> Thank you for your response.>>>> Husin>> Sent from my HusinBerry®>> powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT>>>> ------------ --------- --------- ------>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 10, 2009 Report Share Posted August 10, 2009 Hi Husin: There are many reflexes which are key for the development of speech: Babkin Palmomental, Grasp, ATNR, Hands Pulling, to name a few. .......AND it is always good to work on Spinal Galant, Spinal e, Babinsky and Foot Tendon Guard. Keep your eye on the Masgutova Website for ways to learn about working with these reflexes. Warm Regards Pamela Curlee In a message dated 8/8/2009 8:55:26 P.M. Mountain Daylight Time, joan@... writes: Wow, Husin. I don't know the community in Indonesia. I am not saying that Facial Reflexes is the key, and that is why it is important to get an evaluation and training for a home program. Any one reading this email from the Institute, do you have any ideas for help in Husin's are? I cannot imagine a program which teaches facial reflexes over the internet. You would really need face-to-face guidance and feedback to learn these techniques. Joan On Sat, 8 Aug 2009 05:53:55 +0000, Husin kolius wrote:>> Thank you, joan.> My child can make sound, verbalized only vocals, no intonation> patterns. She communicates by dragging me to what she wants or> doing what I command.> There's no masgutova practitioner in indonesia. Is there any> training via email for facial integration reflex?> Thank you>> Husin> Sent from my HusinBerry®> powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT> From: Joan Agosta> Date: Fri, 7 Aug 2009 23:08:59 -0400> < >> Subject: Non-verbal>> Hello Husin.> I am a practitioner and work with special needs children:> developmentally delay, pervasive developmental syndrome, downs> syndrome, autistic, ect. I have found that children improve their> speech noticeably often after just one treatment of facial reflex> integration. Does your child verbalize at all? Does she make> sounds? Does she imitate the intonation patterns of your language?> How does she communicate with you?>> Hopefully someone in your area will contact you so that you can> start a home program for your daughter.> Joan>> On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 22:52:41 +0000, Husin kolius wrote:>>>> Thank you, joan,>> How is your child speaking ability now?>> We live in Indonesia. She hasn't evaluated by masgutova>> specialist.>> Maybe someone know where's I can find one here in Indonesia.>>>> Sent from my HusinBerry®>> powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT>> From: Joan Agosta>> Date: Thu, 6 Aug 2009 11:22:44 -0400>> < >>> Subject: Non-verbal>>>> That depends on the child. Has your child been evaluated by a>> Masgutava specialist? I have gotten good results using Facial>> Integration Reflexes.>> Joan>>>> On Thu, 6 Aug 2009 09:30:04 +0000, Husin kolius wrote:>>> Halo, all.>>> My 6 yo ASD daughter still non verbal. Which reflex must I work>>> at?>>> Thank you for your response.>>>>>> Husin>>> Sent from my HusinBerry®>>> powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSAT>>>>>> ------------------------------------>>>>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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