Re: Hello to the group

[Guest guest]

Hi . With all your efforts, did you have a return of your menstrual cycle?

Do you know about progesterone? Have you tried it? Or colostrum?

Birth control pills should be outlawed. They are so destructive. I am sorry

for your experience. Sorry that you are paying for the immoral actions of our

current medical system.

Keep us posted on your progress

Donna

----- Original Message -----

From: Vryhof

Hello Group,

My name is Vryhof.

[Guest guest]

Hello ,

" > My name is Vryhof. .

> Seven years ago, I went off birth control pills and quit smoking at the

same time and over five weeks, I gained 36 pounds, though my eating habits

had not changed and I was working out daily. Over the next two years, my

periods stopped altogether, I gained another 35 pounds, by now I was craving

sugar and was depressed so I gave in to the cravings. After a battery of

tests, I was told that I had gone through early onset menopause. I was just

30 years old. The depression settled in and so did the weight. My

digestive system slowed down and now here I am, close to 80 pounds

overweight, tired all the time and though I am not actively depressed

anymore (I was having suicidal fantasies at one point) I am not at anything

near my best either. It has been a battle to bring myself emotionally back

from the bitter place where I was. (I also lost my only sister in a tragic

accident which did not help the depression). "

Unfortunaltely, the medical profession is good at diagnosing, and that is

about it. The sugar craving sounds like candida overgrowth. The menopause

is horrible, I am so sorry. (((laura))).

I wonder if the birth control had something to do with the menopause? I am

also 70 pounds overweight from reacting to a very bad situation in my life,

so I can relate. I am very sorry about the loss of your sister. My heart

goes out to you.

" > In the past, I have tried 14 day fasts which have had the following

effects:

> 1. My metabolism decreased as my body went into starvation mode.

> 2. My bowel did clease somewhat, though not remarkably, but when I went

back to eating, slowed even more markedly than before, until I was moving

them only every three days.

> 3. At around the tenth day, I started blacking out. "

When I didn't lose weight on a fast, I got very concerned and I did some

research. I found I had a low thyroid and needed to take meds. Because I

caught it so early, I only needed it for 6 months.

" >

> I bought Hulda s book and had my husband, who is an electronics tech

(yay) build a zapper which I used for several weeks in addition to the

parasite cleanse recipe. I saw no parasites, though I may have passed some

without realizing. Next, I moved on to the kidney cleanse using the formula

in Dr. 's book. My skin turned a sickly shade of green (due to the

parsley I think) even with drinking a gallon of water a day. After two days

of the cleanse, I could not keep the tea or anything else down and gave up. "

" > Following that, I did the fasting thing again with the result the same as

mentioned above. I have also tried various bowel cleansing preparations (can

give more detail if needed) which basically suceeded in getting my bowels

moving for short periods of time. It seemed that after each bout of

cleansing, they were worse. One time it took a full week before they

started moving at all after the cleanse. There were never any " ropes " or

other odd looking things, nor did I ever see anything that looked like

particularly old bowel contents. I was usually able to do the cleanses for

short periods of time, no more than two weeks, because of the " fire down

below " and inability to sit on my bum after a while. I have not tried

enemas and have a particular emotional aversion to them which stems from a

childhood incident which I would prefer not to disclose. I have not done a

liver flush because I read in Dr. 's book that the parasite cleanse

should be done first and since I was never sure if any parasites had come

out, have not dared to try it. She says you could be quite ill which I now

know is not necessarily the truth having looked at all of your experiences. "

That is correct. I believe you should just try it and see what happens. It

is only a few days and you will know early the second day if there are going

to be any stones coming out.

" > Currently, I am using the parasite herbs and such as well as raw pumpkin

seeds because I feel that there are parasites to be cleansed. I also

contemplated using bentonite clay at the same time and posted on the

curezone forum asking if it would be a good idea but got no response so have

not tried both at the same time. My plan is to do this until I see some

evidence of parasites and then move on to the Bentonite Clay. " '

Have you considered that there might not be any parasites? Something to

think about.

" > I eat some meat but not every day, lots of veggies, and almost no dairy

(yogurt being the exception) and I drink around 90 to 100 ounces of water

each day. "

The water sounds good, and so does the diet.

> I guess I did not do so well at keeping this short but that is my story in

essence. I will let you know how it goes.

You did fine.

You know, I am not a doctor, but the more I read your testimony, the more I

keep thinking Dr. Schulze. He has so many testimonies of people who were

going into menopause early and got the situation corrected (periods return)

also for healing pms, and many digestive disorders. I recommend as highly

as I possibly can that you call him and get a catalog. He will tell you

step by step how to heal your gut and hormones. His prices are very

reasonable and he explains how the body works and how to heal it in plain

English. He is quite wonderful. I believe it cannot hurt at this point for

you to call and have them send you a catalog. His catalogs explain so much,

you will be very impressed. Also, in the catalog, he will tell you exactly

what is in his products and why each ingredient is important. He was

deathly ill and used herbs to heal himself and seems to really care about

people. I hope this helps and I wish you the best. Please feel free to

ask as many questions as you need to.

Dr. Schulze 1-800-437-2362

God bless,

KJ

[Guest guest]

Hi , If you took a parasite cleanse it probably

worked. The majority of parasites are microscopic. It is

an eye opener to find something visible in your BM.

You should now go ahead with your liver cleanse, it may make

a difference in your following bowel cleanses. The liver

should be unclogged so your system can eliminate more feely.

I believe I remember you should do a kidney cleanse too before

the liver cleanse. It will help reduce a stressful, toxic,

kidney during the liver cleanse.

If you are eliminating then you may not need to use enemas.

Laxatives can work well along with psyllium or a type of

fiber that is agreable with your body.

And from past postings from other members it has taken quite

some time for many of use to find a bowel cleanse that works.

You have to stick with one for several months to see if any

action is going to take place.

Have you looked into taking enzyems? One of the reasons for

bowels not moving is that your body is not digesting the

food properly. With me it was tested to be protien, but I

suspect more foods than that wasn't being digested.

Liz D

-- In bowel cleanse@y..., " Vryhof " <vryhof@m...> wrote:

> Hello Group,

>

> My name is Vryhof. I have been reading about these cleanses

for a couple of years and have decided now to get serious about

them. near my best either. >

> I bought Hulda s book and had my husband, who is an

electronics tech (yay) build a zapper which I used for several weeks

in addition to the parasite cleanse recipe. I saw no parasites,

though I may have passed some without realizing.

>

> I have not done a liver flush because I read in Dr. 's book

that the parasite cleanse should be done first and since I was never

sure if any parasites had come out, have not dared to try it. She

says you could be quite ill which I now know is not necessarily the

truth having looked at all of your experiences.

> Thanks,

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Very smart . Keep us posted on your progress. We are cheering for you!

Donna

----- Original Message -----

Hi Donna,

No, I didn't get my period back, I did try progesterone and it was not a good

thing for me. I have not tried colostrum and really feel that if I should get it

back, it should be from a return to natural balance rather than having to alter

my hormones even by natural means. Who knows what will happen down the road.

Thanks,

[Guest guest]

Hi Liz,

Thanks for your insight. You may be right about the parasites, though I think

that I keep getting reinfected. We had trouble with the restaurant across the

street having a bad septic which contaminated our well water (along with three

other of our neighbors who were " downstream " ). We don't drink it but we filter

it to death and have been bathing in it (we are working with the local extension

office to get it cleaned out and the levels are getting better all the time, the

restaurant is closed down now at least. And of course, the owner refuses to pay

for the cleanup.

I am currently using some enzymes which I purchased from a local company who

does most of their business on the internet. The name of the place is Beyond A

Century and they really do have good products and prices. That being said, I

don't think the particular type of enzyme I purchased there worked for me. I

saw no changes at all from using them but not really knowing what to expect, I

kept them up for a few months, like 5 maybe, and then stopped. It seemed like a

waste of money. Will try another brand and see if things change. That has been

the frustrating part of all this, try this, try that, go see this doctor go see

that one and still no change. Makes me want to tear my hair out, except I am

sure that being both bald and overweight would not be a great plan *smile*. I

don't want to join the circus.

Liver flush is next on my list but will not be until at least next weekend, I am

a photographer and am shooting a wedding this weekend.

Till then, I will keep my nose to the grindstone....hey.. wait... should that be

butt to the grindstone????

Thanks,

Re: Hello to the group

Hi , If you took a parasite cleanse it probably

worked. The majority of parasites are microscopic. It is

an eye opener to find something visible in your BM.

You should now go ahead with your liver cleanse, it may make

a difference in your following bowel cleanses. The liver

should be unclogged so your system can eliminate more feely.

I believe I remember you should do a kidney cleanse too before

the liver cleanse. It will help reduce a stressful, toxic,

kidney during the liver cleanse.

If you are eliminating then you may not need to use enemas.

Laxatives can work well along with psyllium or a type of

fiber that is agreable with your body.

And from past postings from other members it has taken quite

some time for many of use to find a bowel cleanse that works.

You have to stick with one for several months to see if any

action is going to take place.

Have you looked into taking enzyems? One of the reasons for

bowels not moving is that your body is not digesting the

food properly. With me it was tested to be protien, but I

suspect more foods than that wasn't being digested.

Liz D

[Guest guest]

Hi Bill, Dee, & ,

Welcome to the group! It's good to hear that has adjusted so

well to her band. :-)

To upload pictures to the site all you do it go to the home page:

Plagiocephaly/

On the left you'll see photos, click on photos.

Click on Our Plagio Kids then click on Add Photo.

Locate your picture on your hard drive and upload it. You can also

email pictures to the group.

Send an email to Plagiocephaly and attach your pic

like you normally would.

> We just wanted to say out Hello's to the group. We just joined

yesterday,

> and have learned a lot already.

>

> Our Daughter (she just turned 6 months old) has Positional

> Plagiocephaly, and just started wearing a Star Band last week.

>

> We first noticed the flatness on her head at about two months old,

and

> thought it would go away when she started rolling over on her

side. At her

> four month check up we mentioned it to her Pediatrician, and she

referred

> us to a specialist. That Doctor recommended a Star Band, so we

went to the

> Orthotist and had her fitted for her band. They used

the " Optical "

> scanner to get the measurements for the band. didn't mind

the scan

> at all (I am sure a plaster cast would not have been so easy.)

>

> adapted to the band right away. She fusses right when you

first put

> it on, but is fine after a few seconds. She had a bit of trouble

sleeping

> the first night she had to wear it, but has been fine ever since

(except

> for when the blanket or sheet gets stuck to Velcro ;-)

>

> We have not had any " problems " out in public. We did have a

waitress ask

> what happened (every one assumes she had an accident :-) but we

use those

> questions as a chance to help educate others. A few of the older

kids in

> the Day Care center stare at her while they walk by, but that is a

about

> it. We thought that we were going to hate the stares, and felt

sorry for

> because of them, but now we realize that is too small

to even

> notice any stares or whispers. She is such a happy baby, she just

keeps on

> smiling and laughing.

>

> Thanks for having a great resource like this out there. It helps

to have

> other people out there in the same boat you are in to talk to. I

will try

> and post some pictures of when I figure out how to upload

them to

> .

>

> Thanks for listening !! Bill, Dee,

&

[Guest guest]

Harnony,

I have lost weight and the GI problems on Weight wathcers. Just by doing this,

I have lost almost 30 pounds, and do not spend hours in the bathrrom. If I go

off the diet, and eat a lot of sweets, then I am back to the loo.

harmonygeorge <harmonygeorge@...> wrote:

This is Harmony, diagnosed in 2000. Gleevec trial 106 at OHSU from

November 2000. Very good results, some side effects. I am getting

back to the group after a long absence. Zavie 'made' me do it!

Anyway, I'm looking forward to hearing how some old friends are doing.

I am particularly interested in hearing how others have successfully

lost those extra pounds and what you have done to manage the GI

problems.

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[Guest guest]

At 10:09 AM 6/16/05 -0700, you wrote:

>Harnony,

>I have lost weight and the GI problems on Weight wathcers. Just by doing

>this, I have lost almost 30 pounds, and do not spend hours in the

>bathrrom. If I go off the diet, and eat a lot of sweets, then I am back

>to the loo.

>

Hi Harmony,

I would agree with that a healthy diet (of whole and not processed

foods) is the best way to combat the GI side effects of Gleevec. When you

eat more fruits and vegetables vs meat, you are eating more alkaline foods

and this helps offset the acidity of the drug. When your body gets more

acid, it raises havoc with your gut especially.

C.