Guest guest Posted August 6, 2011 Report Share Posted August 6, 2011 I too am interested in the answer to this question. We attended a conference in January in San Mateo, and I don’t recall this being discussed specifically with any of the therapists (There was so much other good information, that I don’t believe I thought about this then), but would love to know which reflexes would help our son with his desire to chew on everything. By the way, our son’s speech has just continued to improve since the conference. I suspect he will amaze his 1st grade teachers when they see him in September, after not seeing him since June. Thanks, Jinger Cain Mom to Dylan Cain, 6 years old From: pistevw Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 9:17 AM Subject: chewy tubes Hi - I've heard that MNRI does not 'believe in' using chewy tubes for kids that like to bite a lot. Can someone please explain the reasoning behind it in detail, so I can share it with our other therapists who keep recommending that we hang one around my son's neck...? I would rather work on dealing with biting in a different way... are there particular reflexes to work on, or is it a systemic thing? Other ideas and advice?Thanks,Kati Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 Hello all,AFAIK from the Minicamp with DR Svetlana last December in Jakarta, Indonesia, Chewy Tube is more suitable for children with Down Syndrome. However, our Speech Therapist in Singapore also recommends to use Chewy Tube to release the stress. Our 5 year old SID son has the habit of locking his jaw. Therefore, the ST suggests to let him bite the Chewy Tube to relax. I asked DR Svetlana about this and she mentioned that Chewy Tube may not be suitable for our son. CMIIW Regards,Sent from my BlackBerry® Style via Smart EVDO NetworkFrom: "JingerB \(Comcast\)" <jingerb@...>Sender: Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2011 12:57:59 -0700< >Reply Subject: Re: chewy tubes I too am interested in the answer to this question. We attended a conference in January in San Mateo, and I don’t recall this being discussed specifically with any of the therapists (There was so much other good information, that I don’t believe I thought about this then), but would love to know which reflexes would help our son with his desire to chew on everything. By the way, our son’s speech has just continued to improve since the conference. I suspect he will amaze his 1st grade teachers when they see him in September, after not seeing him since June. Thanks,Jinger CainMom to Dylan Cain, 6 years old From: pistevw Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 9:17 AM Subject: chewy tubes Hi - I've heard that MNRI does not 'believe in' using chewy tubes for kids that like to bite a lot. Can someone please explain the reasoning behind it in detail, so I can share it with our other therapists who keep recommending that we hang one around my son's neck...? I would rather work on dealing with biting in a different way... are there particular reflexes to work on, or is it a systemic thing? Other ideas and advice?Thanks,Kati Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 Is it the tube too stimulating the sphenoid repetitively? then it may cause our kids more aggresive (in "our cases"), Arip.In MNRI, massage is the safest way. :-)Rgrds, Sent from my BlackBerry®powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSATFrom: "Arip The Chaser" <arippurwanto@...>Sender: Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2011 14:11:51 +0000< >Reply Subject: Re: Chewy Tubes Hello all,AFAIK from the Minicamp with DR Svetlana last December in Jakarta, Indonesia, Chewy Tube is more suitable for children with Down Syndrome. However, our Speech Therapist in Singapore also recommends to use Chewy Tube to release the stress. Our 5 year old SID son has the habit of locking his jaw. Therefore, the ST suggests to let him bite the Chewy Tube to relax. I asked DR Svetlana about this and she mentioned that Chewy Tube may not be suitable for our son. CMIIW Regards,Sent from my BlackBerry® Style via Smart EVDO NetworkFrom: "JingerB \(Comcast\)" <jingerb@...>Sender: Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2011 12:57:59 -0700< >Reply Subject: Re: chewy tubes I too am interested in the answer to this question. We attended a conference in January in San Mateo, and I don’t recall this being discussed specifically with any of the therapists (There was so much other good information, that I don’t believe I thought about this then), but would love to know which reflexes would help our son with his desire to chew on everything. By the way, our son’s speech has just continued to improve since the conference. I suspect he will amaze his 1st grade teachers when they see him in September, after not seeing him since June. Thanks,Jinger CainMom to Dylan Cain, 6 years old From: pistevw Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 9:17 AM Subject: chewy tubes Hi - I've heard that MNRI does not 'believe in' using chewy tubes for kids that like to bite a lot. Can someone please explain the reasoning behind it in detail, so I can share it with our other therapists who keep recommending that we hang one around my son's neck...? I would rather work on dealing with biting in a different way... are there particular reflexes to work on, or is it a systemic thing? Other ideas and advice?Thanks,Kati Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 Hello ,My son, Terrence is confirmed to join the Camp this December in Jakarta. I will submit the down payment either today / tomorrow.I am not so sure how it went, but clenching his teeth when Terrence is too high, is one problem that we haven't figured out how to deal with. By giving him Chewy Tube at least he could release the stress. But the problem remains throughout the day. Sometimes I also told him to open his mouth wide. Which part of MNRI will help him to reduce the teeth clenching?Sent from my BlackBerry® Style via Smart EVDO NetworkFrom: rosalina_abadi@...Sender: Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 00:10:15 +0000CHILDRENWITHCHALLENGESGROUPS (DOT) COM<CHILDRENWITHCHALLENGESGROUPS (DOT) COM>Reply Subject: Re: Chewy Tubes Is it the tube too stimulating the sphenoid repetitively? then it may cause our kids more aggresive (in "our cases"), Arip.In MNRI, massage is the safest way. :-)Rgrds, Sent from my BlackBerry®powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSATFrom: "Arip The Chaser" <arippurwanto@...>Sender: Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2011 14:11:51 +0000< >Reply Subject: Re: Chewy Tubes Hello all,AFAIK from the Minicamp with DR Svetlana last December in Jakarta, Indonesia, Chewy Tube is more suitable for children with Down Syndrome. However, our Speech Therapist in Singapore also recommends to use Chewy Tube to release the stress. Our 5 year old SID son has the habit of locking his jaw. Therefore, the ST suggests to let him bite the Chewy Tube to relax. I asked DR Svetlana about this and she mentioned that Chewy Tube may not be suitable for our son. CMIIW Regards,Sent from my BlackBerry® Style via Smart EVDO NetworkFrom: "JingerB \(Comcast\)" <jingerb@...>Sender: Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2011 12:57:59 -0700< >Reply Subject: Re: chewy tubes I too am interested in the answer to this question. We attended a conference in January in San Mateo, and I don’t recall this being discussed specifically with any of the therapists (There was so much other good information, that I don’t believe I thought about this then), but would love to know which reflexes would help our son with his desire to chew on everything. By the way, our son’s speech has just continued to improve since the conference. I suspect he will amaze his 1st grade teachers when they see him in September, after not seeing him since June. Thanks,Jinger CainMom to Dylan Cain, 6 years old From: pistevw Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 9:17 AM Subject: chewy tubes Hi - I've heard that MNRI does not 'believe in' using chewy tubes for kids that like to bite a lot. Can someone please explain the reasoning behind it in detail, so I can share it with our other therapists who keep recommending that we hang one around my son's neck...? I would rather work on dealing with biting in a different way... are there particular reflexes to work on, or is it a systemic thing? Other ideas and advice?Thanks,Kati Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 7, 2011 Report Share Posted August 7, 2011 Dear Arip,Lucky you that your son is confirmed to attend the camp. It's full now. If any participant cancels then we will reopen the registration again.We have similar problem. Teeth grinding. As I know as a parent (not as an expertist/specialist), it can be caused by the oral motor problem/structure, bacterial infection or habit.For oral motor include TMJ areas : Facial/Visual/Auditory Reflex Integration Session in the camp. For bacterial infection, if there is : the e Reflex (hopefully detoxification process may help to reduce the number of bacteria) and to increase the immune system : through Neurostructural Reflex Integration Program. Some bacterial infection is related to low immune system.I also just ordered from US a liquid formula to maintain healthy gum and teeth (safe to swallow: free detergent n fluoride free). The price is quite expensive. Hope it works.For habit, I use 1 technique of emotional stress release.And don't forget : pray to God to bless all of our ways.Regards,Sent from my BlackBerry®powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSATFrom: "Arip The Chaser" <arippurwanto@...>Sender: Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 03:18:50 +0000< >Reply Subject: Re: Chewy Tubes Hello ,My son, Terrence is confirmed to join the Camp this December in Jakarta. I will submit the down payment either today / tomorrow.I am not so sure how it went, but clenching his teeth when Terrence is too high, is one problem that we haven't figured out how to deal with. By giving him Chewy Tube at least he could release the stress. But the problem remains throughout the day. Sometimes I also told him to open his mouth wide. Which part of MNRI will help him to reduce the teeth clenching?Sent from my BlackBerry® Style via Smart EVDO NetworkFrom: rosalina_abadi@...Sender: Date: Mon, 8 Aug 2011 00:10:15 +0000CHILDRENWITHCHALLENGESGROUPS (DOT) COM<CHILDRENWITHCHALLENGESGROUPS (DOT) COM>Reply Subject: Re: Chewy Tubes Is it the tube too stimulating the sphenoid repetitively? then it may cause our kids more aggresive (in "our cases"), Arip.In MNRI, massage is the safest way. :-)Rgrds, Sent from my BlackBerry®powered by Sinyal Kuat INDOSATFrom: "Arip The Chaser" <arippurwanto@...>Sender: Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2011 14:11:51 +0000< >Reply Subject: Re: Chewy Tubes Hello all,AFAIK from the Minicamp with DR Svetlana last December in Jakarta, Indonesia, Chewy Tube is more suitable for children with Down Syndrome. However, our Speech Therapist in Singapore also recommends to use Chewy Tube to release the stress. Our 5 year old SID son has the habit of locking his jaw. Therefore, the ST suggests to let him bite the Chewy Tube to relax. I asked DR Svetlana about this and she mentioned that Chewy Tube may not be suitable for our son. CMIIW Regards,Sent from my BlackBerry® Style via Smart EVDO NetworkFrom: "JingerB \(Comcast\)" <jingerb@...>Sender: Date: Sat, 6 Aug 2011 12:57:59 -0700< >Reply Subject: Re: chewy tubes I too am interested in the answer to this question. We attended a conference in January in San Mateo, and I don’t recall this being discussed specifically with any of the therapists (There was so much other good information, that I don’t believe I thought about this then), but would love to know which reflexes would help our son with his desire to chew on everything. By the way, our son’s speech has just continued to improve since the conference. I suspect he will amaze his 1st grade teachers when they see him in September, after not seeing him since June. Thanks,Jinger CainMom to Dylan Cain, 6 years old From: pistevw Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 9:17 AM Subject: chewy tubes Hi - I've heard that MNRI does not 'believe in' using chewy tubes for kids that like to bite a lot. Can someone please explain the reasoning behind it in detail, so I can share it with our other therapists who keep recommending that we hang one around my son's neck...? I would rather work on dealing with biting in a different way... are there particular reflexes to work on, or is it a systemic thing? Other ideas and advice?Thanks,Kati Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 9, 2011 Report Share Posted August 9, 2011 Hi Kati, Dr. Masgutova talked about chew tubes at one of the courses I took with her. The notes I took say that chew tubes switch on protection brain response, makes the chewing reflex hyperactive, leads to emotional explosion, activates molars and protection continues to increase. Only use chew tubes with Down Syndrome or others with poor muscle tone. From: "pistevw" <pistevw@...> Sent: Friday, August 5, 2011 10:17:16 AMSubject: chewy tubes Hi - I've heard that MNRI does not 'believe in' using chewy tubes for kids that like to bite a lot. Can someone please explain the reasoning behind it in detail, so I can share it with our other therapists who keep recommending that we hang one around my son's neck...? I would rather work on dealing with biting in a different way... are there particular reflexes to work on, or is it a systemic thing? Other ideas and advice?Thanks,Kati Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2011 Report Share Posted September 11, 2011 a hyperactive chewing reflex.......is that why a young child would bite his nails.my son age 5...has down syndrome and bites his nails constantly???? any advice appreciated..thank you! Hi Kati, Dr. Masgutova talked about chew tubes at one of the courses I took with her. The notes I took say that chew tubes switch on protection brain response, makes the chewing reflex hyperactive, leads to emotional explosion, activates molars and protection continues to increase. Only use chew tubes with Down Syndrome or others with poor muscle tone. From: "pistevw" <pistevw@...> Sent: Friday, August 5, 2011 10:17:16 AMSubject: chewy tubes Hi - I've heard that MNRI does not 'believe in' using chewy tubes for kids that like to bite a lot. Can someone please explain the reasoning behind it in detail, so I can share it with our other therapists who keep recommending that we hang one around my son's neck...? I would rather work on dealing with biting in a different way... are there particular reflexes to work on, or is it a systemic thing? Other ideas and advice?Thanks,Kati Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2011 Report Share Posted September 11, 2011 Working the facial reflexes are important also with dealing with hyper or hypo active chewing the the chew reflex. . They are learned at the family conferences or classes. Check with the specialist in your area. Diane Whiteside PTMNRI core specialist and teacher From: sheena s. <healthyu@...>chat list < >Sent: Sun, September 11, 2011 8:55:00 AMSubject: RE: chewy tubes a hyperactive chewing reflex.......is that why a young child would bite his nails.my son age 5...has down syndrome and bites his nails constantly???? any advice appreciated..thank you! Hi Kati, Dr. Masgutova talked about chew tubes at one of the courses I took with her. The notes I took say that chew tubes switch on protection brain response, makes the chewing reflex hyperactive, leads to emotional explosion, activates molars and protection continues to increase. Only use chew tubes with Down Syndrome or others with poor muscle tone. From: "pistevw" <pistevw@...> Sent: Friday, August 5, 2011 10:17:16 AMSubject: chewy tubes Hi - I've heard that MNRI does not 'believe in' using chewy tubes for kids that like to bite a lot. Can someone please explain the reasoning behind it in detail, so I can share it with our other therapists who keep recommending that we hang one around my son's neck...? I would rather work on dealing with biting in a different way... are there particular reflexes to work on, or is it a systemic thing? Other ideas and advice?Thanks,Kati Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2011 Report Share Posted September 11, 2011 Wouldn't working on integrating the babkin reflex help?JanetFrom: sheena s. <healthyu@...>chat list < >Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 10:55 AMSubject: RE: chewy tubes a hyperactive chewing reflex.......is that why a young child would bite his nails.my son age 5...has down syndrome and bites his nails constantly???? any advice appreciated..thank you! Hi Kati, Dr. Masgutova talked about chew tubes at one of the courses I took with her. The notes I took say that chew tubes switch on protection brain response, makes the chewing reflex hyperactive, leads to emotional explosion, activates molars and protection continues to increase. Only use chew tubes with Down Syndrome or others with poor muscle tone. From: "pistevw" <pistevw@...> Sent: Friday, August 5, 2011 10:17:16 AMSubject: chewy tubes Hi - I've heard that MNRI does not 'believe in' using chewy tubes for kids that like to bite a lot. Can someone please explain the reasoning behind it in detail, so I can share it with our other therapists who keep recommending that we hang one around my son's neck...? I would rather work on dealing with biting in a different way... are there particular reflexes to work on, or is it a systemic thing? Other ideas and advice?Thanks,Kati Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2011 Report Share Posted September 11, 2011 I can't answer the question about a hyperactive chewing reflex but it could be that his babkin needs work. One of the signs of an unintegrated babkin is nail biting. From: "sheena s." <healthyu@...>"chat list" < >Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 9:55:00 AMSubject: RE: chewy tubes a hyperactive chewing reflex.......is that why a young child would bite his nails.my son age 5...has down syndrome and bites his nails constantly???? any advice appreciated..thank you! Hi Kati, Dr. Masgutova talked about chew tubes at one of the courses I took with her. The notes I took say that chew tubes switch on protection brain response, makes the chewing reflex hyperactive, leads to emotional explosion, activates molars and protection continues to increase. Only use chew tubes with Down Syndrome or others with poor muscle tone. From: "pistevw" <pistevw@...> Sent: Friday, August 5, 2011 10:17:16 AMSubject: chewy tubes Hi - I've heard that MNRI does not 'believe in' using chewy tubes for kids that like to bite a lot. Can someone please explain the reasoning behind it in detail, so I can share it with our other therapists who keep recommending that we hang one around my son's neck...? I would rather work on dealing with biting in a different way... are there particular reflexes to work on, or is it a systemic thing? Other ideas and advice?Thanks,Kati Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2011 Report Share Posted September 11, 2011 Try Babkin reflex then massage whole palm & fingers and extend palm & fingers while your son talks or sings along with you..several minutes each hand..enjoy!All best,JanetCore specialistFacial & Tactile instructor On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 11:55 AM, sheena s. <healthyu@...> wrote: a hyperactive chewing reflex.......is that why a young child would bite his nails.my son age 5...has down syndrome and bites his nails constantly???? any advice appreciated..thank you! Hi Kati, Dr. Masgutova talked about chew tubes at one of the courses I took with her. The notes I took say that chew tubes switch on protection brain response, makes the chewing reflex hyperactive, leads to emotional explosion, activates molars and protection continues to increase. Only use chew tubes with Down Syndrome or others with poor muscle tone. From: " pistevw " <pistevw@...> Sent: Friday, August 5, 2011 10:17:16 AMSubject: chewy tubes Hi - I've heard that MNRI does not 'believe in' using chewy tubes for kids that like to bite a lot. Can someone please explain the reasoning behind it in detail, so I can share it with our other therapists who keep recommending that we hang one around my son's neck...? I would rather work on dealing with biting in a different way... are there particular reflexes to work on, or is it a systemic thing? Other ideas and advice? Thanks,Kati -- Janet Olney Mc, M.Ed., LMT, CH Neurodevelopmental Therapist & Instructor Licensed Massage Therapist (MA#64436) Brain Gym Consultant / Instructor Reflexes Integration Specialist / Instructor Jin Shin Jyutsu Self-help Instructor Quantum Wave Laser Consultant www.JanetOWellnessAndLearning.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2011 Report Share Posted September 12, 2011 Thank You...We will work on those:) Try Babkin reflex then massage whole palm & fingers and extend palm & fingers while your son talks or sings along with you..several minutes each hand..enjoy!All best,JanetCore specialistFacial & Tactile instructor On Sun, Sep 11, 2011 at 11:55 AM, sheena s. <healthyu@...> wrote: a hyperactive chewing reflex.......is that why a young child would bite his nails.my son age 5...has down syndrome and bites his nails constantly???? any advice appreciated..thank you! Hi Kati, Dr. Masgutova talked about chew tubes at one of the courses I took with her. The notes I took say that chew tubes switch on protection brain response, makes the chewing reflex hyperactive, leads to emotional explosion, activates molars and protection continues to increase. Only use chew tubes with Down Syndrome or others with poor muscle tone. From: "pistevw" <pistevw@...> Sent: Friday, August 5, 2011 10:17:16 AMSubject: chewy tubes Hi - I've heard that MNRI does not 'believe in' using chewy tubes for kids that like to bite a lot. Can someone please explain the reasoning behind it in detail, so I can share it with our other therapists who keep recommending that we hang one around my son's neck...? I would rather work on dealing with biting in a different way... are there particular reflexes to work on, or is it a systemic thing? Other ideas and advice? Thanks,Kati -- Janet Olney Mc, M.Ed., LMT, CH Neurodevelopmental Therapist & Instructor Licensed Massage Therapist (MA#64436) Brain Gym Consultant / Instructor Reflexes Integration Specialist / Instructor Jin Shin Jyutsu Self-help Instructor Quantum Wave Laser Consultant www.JanetOWellnessAndLearning.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2011 Report Share Posted September 12, 2011 I totally agree with Dr. Masgutova's opinion regarding OT chew tubes as the experience of my son. Don't give your kid any OT chewing tubes no matter how great they describe to you. After my son school OT and special education teacher gave him chewing tubes to stop him putting paper or other non-eating stuffs into his mouth. Before, he only occasionally put paper or something new for him into his mouth, now, he is very actively biting things, licking things whenever he want to seeking comfort, falling sleep, working on homework, tired, bored.... Other than biting and licking, the worst thing is, he started to develop tics, start from shaking hands, quickly squeeze eyes, rubbing eyes(till the eyelids were red and swollen, Dr. had to put him on antibiotic med), licking lips etc... till today's shake his head. ( I don't know how to fix this yet, but better than the others, only looks wired, no harm)After they put a rubber band under his chair, he started to rocking his body if the chair doesn't has rubber band under. I asked the school to remove the rubber band, the rocking stopped, but his feet still has no-stop moving.Dr. Masgutova talked about chew tubes at one of the courses I took with her. The notes I took say that chew tubes switch on protection brain response, makes the chewing reflex hyperactive, leads to emotional explosion, activates molars and protection continues to increase. Only use chew tubes with Down Syndrome or others with poor muscle tone. From: diane whiteside <dianewt3@...>To: Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 9:43 AMSubject: Re: chewy tubes Working the facial reflexes are important also with dealing with hyper or hypo active chewing the the chew reflex. . They are learned at the family conferences or classes. Check with the specialist in your area. Diane Whiteside PTMNRI core specialist and teacher From: sheena s. <healthyu@...>chat list < >Sent: Sun, September 11, 2011 8:55:00 AMSubject: RE: chewy tubes a hyperactive chewing reflex.......is that why a young child would bite his nails.my son age 5...has down syndrome and bites his nails constantly???? any advice appreciated..thank you! Hi Kati, Dr. Masgutova talked about chew tubes at one of the courses I took with her. The notes I took say that chew tubes switch on protection brain response, makes the chewing reflex hyperactive, leads to emotional explosion, activates molars and protection continues to increase. Only use chew tubes with Down Syndrome or others with poor muscle tone. From: "pistevw" <pistevw@...> Sent: Friday, August 5, 2011 10:17:16 AMSubject: chewy tubes Hi - I've heard that MNRI does not 'believe in' using chewy tubes for kids that like to bite a lot. Can someone please explain the reasoning behind it in detail, so I can share it with our other therapists who keep recommending that we hang one around my son's neck...? I would rather work on dealing with biting in a different way... are there particular reflexes to work on, or is it a systemic thing? Other ideas and advice?Thanks,Kati Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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