Guest guest Posted October 2, 2010 Report Share Posted October 2, 2010 Hi, Kathy -- Once again, could you please confirm that you received my email reply to you? Otherwise, I'd better try to resend it. My gmail has been a little glitchy lately. (My " estranged spouse " finally received an email on September 20th which I had sent him on the 10th!) In response to your most recent post: It can be very hard to determine whether someone's spine has fused from radiographic evidence alone. Let me qualify that, however: In general it seems to me that spontaneous " natural " fusion (e.g., in the lower spine, after years of undue stress on unfused vertebrae coupled with the usual severe joint degeneration) may be diagnosable from an x-ray alone. When it comes to successful surgical fusion higher up, however, the only sure way to tell might be for the diagnostician to open the patient up once more and take a look through the " naked eye. " At that point failed fusion or pseudarthrosis should be uniquivocally clear and readily diagnosable. Of course if the original surgeon insists he merely implanted the hardware without any attempt to fuse -- which is so off-the-wall, I am surprised any surgeon would admit to such an inappropriate intervention! -- and if you find him credible, then you have reason to be certain that there was no attempted surgical fusion. This might be a good time to do a mini-review of spinal hardware -- anyone who is interested can read on, and anyone starting to glaze over :-) can go do something else. As you undoubtedly know, the hardware alone serves no essential long-term purpose. It is implanted to protect and support a healing surgical fusion during the first post-op year or two. In providing internal fixation, it replaces the external fixation once provided by cumbersome orthotic devices such as the old-time casts some of us lived in for months or years. To contrast those plaster casts with internal hardware such as the H. rod: The external orthosis, generally a Risser jacket, was a 20-to-30-pound body cast worn externally, extending from the back of the patient's head to her hips or to one or both knees, with a kind of shelf under her chin. The cast had built-in traction, forcibly pulling and holding the spine in a straighter position. With the transition from Risser jackets to Harrington rods, we moved from traction to " dis-traction. " Distraction, the H. rod's major claim to fame, was the earliest, crudest approach to internal fixation of a corrected scoliotic curvature. (For now I'll skip any detailed discussion of the later, more sophisticated segmental systems and their additional abilities such as deroation of vertebrae and apical translation. In brief, these more advanced systems also included rods, but the rods were flexible so that the surgeon could contour them to the specific curves of an individual spine --performing whatever action was appropriate to each individual spinal segment. Most crucially, when implanted by surgeons with exceptional skill and precision, the segmental systems could be used in such a way as to preserve rather than destroy sagittal mechanics, thus averting the development of flatback sydrome -- this after some forty years of exclusive Harrington rod use and the one million patients who were crippled as a result.) " Distraction, " the ,major function of the H. rod, refers to the action of pulling the ends of a spinal curvature further apart. The H. rod, which featured a series of notches, was positioned on the curve's convex side. It passed through two hooks, one to be fastened under the topmost vertebra of the curvature (superior hook) and the other over the bottommost vertebra (inferior hook). The surgeon would move the superior hook up the rod, little by little, until he was satisfied that he had obtained optimal straightening of the curvature. This has often been likened to the procedure for jacking up a car. Both external fixation (casts) and internal fixation (hardware) played essentially temporary roles. Of course the hardware, unlike the casts, was normally left in place indefinitely. While casts could easily be sawed off once they had served their purpose, removing the hardware would have entailed additional invasive surgery. Unless the hardware broke or became problematic in some way, most surgeons would not have felt that the benefits of such surgery would have outweighed the risks. These days many surgeons do opt to remove and replace antiquated hardware in the course of revision surgery. Dr. Rand, in a surgical approach which may be unique to his practice, untethered my rod and " hung the new hardware off it, " as he put it. A few years later when I needed additional revision, Dr. Ondra decided to " rip out all your implants and get things more streamlined. " On my x-rays you can still see the cages Rand installed to hold the graft material he used (my own autologous cancellous bone, cadaver graft, and morphogenic bone protein), but the old H. rod has been taken out (along with some big pelvic bolts that had begun causing me untenable pain). While it is rather common to find an occasional older patient like Ann or me who had one of the early spinal fusions with no hardware whatsoever, it is essentially unheard of to meet someone who got hardware with no fusion. In fact, Kathy, I believe you are the first person I have ever known to report such an experience. I continue to puzzle over what that surgeon could have been thinking. I probably should add one caveat: Occasionally a member of this group has expressed the hope that hardware removal alone would heal all her problems. In fact, we even had one member urging this on others some years ago, after having her own hardware removed. At least initially, she was under the impression that this had fixed her. But the hardware, at least in the vast majority of cases, is there to preserve and protect whatever the surgeon may have done to the spine. If the surgeon has jacked up a person's spine with an H. rod, ignored sagittal mechanics entirely, and induced another case of florid flatback syndrome, that flatback deformity is here to stay pending major spinal revision surgery. The rod, now superfluous, can be left or removed, but generally speaking there will be no effect on the flatback deformity either way. Best, ScolioFlatbackers , " KATHYINBK " <kathyinbk@...> wrote: > > Hi - I am absolutely sure. I even argued with my surgeon, prior to surgery. He just " knew " I had fused...either from my previous surgery or " self fused " . He admitted I was right after my surgery. He said it looked like a solid mass in the x-rays...but actually wasn't. You are right with your theory about me not being fused having something to do with my original rod breaking. I could never figure out why it never progressed...even during and after my first pregnancy. Once again...I am the 1% =) Anyway...have a great weekend..........Kathy > > > > > > > > > > Hi, Kathy -- > > > > > > > > Thanks so much for sharing your spinal films. I had lots of trouble posting my own x-rays. I just found out yesterday (from reading through an endless blog about the changes being made to -- we are in the midst of an overhaul that began in August) that many other people besides us were having problems uploading photos to groups. The people updating say the glitch is now corrected. So it wasn't you -- it was (in case you were taking it personally, as I was). > > > > > > > > You have very clear films. I am not a doctor and am not qualified to evaluate any radiological images, so let me just comment as a layperson that you still seem to have a pretty good scoliosis correction. I'm afraid that second film from the side confirms everything you have been telling us about your condition. No wonder you have had such horrible pain. It " took me back " just seeing the visual evidence of your flatback syndrome -- what a lousy, rotten condition to have (I speak from experience, as you know). > > > > > > > > The good news is that Dr. Hu should be able to do a great correction on your back. (Again, I'm being recklessly opinionated without a medical license!) I am so glad you have resolved to have the revision when you can. I think your life is going to be much better in so many ways once you get over that hurdle. You are one feisty, gutsy, determined woman -- bravo -- you go, girl! > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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