Guest guest Posted April 9, 2006 Report Share Posted April 9, 2006 Hi Val, Glad to be helpful J. Could you also check the dimensions using different body parts/positions as long as the intention/question was appropriate? There are lots of muscles that can be used to muscle-check – Touch For Health (TFH) uses 42, and Applied Kinesiology (AK), TFH’s mother source, more than that, I believe. The muscle-checks have been derived from observation over a period of time of what parts of the body and brain the different muscles represent. Most of that observation comes from AK, through Sheldon Deal’s work (and others since). Dennison took the TFH and AK info and used it as a basis for Brain Gym, so the Laterality, Centering and Focus dimension’s muscle-checks come from that lineage – years of observations of what’s effective. You can learn about different muscles, and what they tell you, in both the TFH class and Brain Gym 101, and that’s what I’d recommend, if you’re interested in pursuing this. In the meantime, I’d stick with what you know, simply to keep it simple, and reliable. It gets tricky here when you ask a question about intention, because, of course you can use anything, with intention, to get results. One of Brain Gym’s basic principles is “energy follows intention”. BUT – and to me this is a big but - what you won’t be clear about, especially if you haven’t studied them, is what those other muscles also bring to the table. That could be confusing to your system, and give you as the checker a response that you don’t know is included in the check. And perhaps don’t want included in the check. And that’s not even talking about what’s happening with the person you’re checking. There can be many factors involved in getting a clear response, whether it’s unconscious programs, injury or trauma, or something the person wants that you don’t know. For a blatant example, you can muscle-check if food’s good for someone, and you may get a positive response for a food that seems unhealthy. There are at least 4 factors I know of for this: sensitivity to that food allergy to that food addiction to that food the checkee concentrating on something she knows is healthy, in order to get a positive check. Gail Dennison tells a story of her son thinking “broccoli” when she checked him for chocolate chip cookies – sure enough, his muscle-check was positive. Did he get the cookies? Well, that’s another story…. As the person doing the checking, you can make sure you’re in a clear, neutral place by doing PACE first, and if you can get your checkee to PACE with you, too, that’ll also help keep the checking clear. I know this isn’t always possible when you’re working with an active child, so do your best. In Brain Gym we suggest that if you’re getting ‘funny’ answers with the muscle check, to return to PACE, and that should help clarify the responses – “when in doubt, PACE”. Could you also check the dimensions using different body parts/positions as long as the intention/question was appropriate? So I personally, would not encourage you to do this, or teach this to others, because one of the things that’s important to me, as an instructor teaching others, is to keep it simple and clear. Keep It Simple Sweetie. I hope that’s helpful, and I’ll be curious to hear what Jocelyn, Pamela, and others have to say. Larhken Larhken B. Carroll 510-531-9729 Work Smarter, Not Harder with Brain Gym® Licensed Brain Gym Instructor Educational Kinesiologist http://www.braingym.org Independent Mannatech Associate http://www.mannatech.com Re: muscle checking *Pamela,Larhken,Jocelyn Thank you Pamela, Larhken, and Jocelyn for your feedback on the supraspinatus muscle check. It was very helpful. I have another question which I hope you can answer. Svetlana mentioned in class that any part of the body could be used for muscle checking, but perhaps this was only within the context of the exercises once the stimulus for a particular reflex has been given. Could you also check the dimensions using different body parts/positions as long as the intention/question was appropriate? Val Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 10, 2006 Report Share Posted April 10, 2006 Thank you all people for discussing this questions concerning the muscle checks. I want to partisipate in this in two days - now I am so busy. At our University program we develop and plan not to teach the muscle checks - we teach them only for kinesiology specialists. For each reflex check we have 15-35 checks and we follow the physiological and psychological testing model - depending on the results - score in tests. And as for muscle check and brain strategies - survival and development - I have my interesting observavions. Special thanks for Valery and Larhken. All the best, Svetlana"Larhken B. Carroll" <larknc@...> wrote: Hi Val, Glad to be helpful J. Could you also check the dimensions using different body parts/positions as long as the intention/question was appropriate? There are lots of muscles that can be used to muscle-check – Touch For Health (TFH) uses 42, and Applied Kinesiology (AK), TFH’s mother source, more than that, I believe. The muscle-checks have been derived from observation over a period of time of what parts of the body and brain the different muscles represent. Most of that observation comes from AK, through Sheldon Deal’s work (and others since). Dennison took the TFH and AK info and used it as a basis for Brain Gym, so the Laterality, Centering and Focus dimension’s muscle-checks come from that lineage – years of observations of what’s effective. You can learn about different muscles, and what they tell you, in both the TFH class and Brain Gym 101, and that’s what I’d recommend, if you’re interested in pursuing this. In the meantime, I’d stick with what you know, simply to keep it simple, and reliable. It gets tricky here when you ask a question about intention, because, of course you can use anything, with intention, to get results. One of Brain Gym’s basic principles is “energy follows intention”. BUT – and to me this is a big but - what you won’t be clear about, especially if you haven’t studied them, is what those other muscles also bring to the table. That could be confusing to your system, and give you as the checker a response that you don’t know is included in the check. And perhaps don’t want included in the check. And that’s not even talking about what’s happening with the person you’re checking. There can be many factors involved in getting a clear response, whether it’s unconscious programs, injury or trauma, or something the person wants that you don’t know. For a blatant example, you can muscle-check if food’s good for someone, and you may get a positive response for a food that seems unhealthy. There are at least 4 factors I know of for this: sensitivity to that food allergy to that food addiction to that food the checkee concentrating on something she knows is healthy, in order to get a positive check. Gail Dennison tells a story of her son thinking “broccoli” when she checked him for chocolate chip cookies – sure enough, his muscle-check was positive. Did he get the cookies? Well, that’s another story…. As the person doing the checking, you can make sure you’re in a clear, neutral place by doing PACE first, and if you can get your checkee to PACE with you, too, that’ll also help keep the checking clear. I know this isn’t always possible when you’re working with an active child, so do your best. In Brain Gym we suggest that if you’re getting ‘funny’ answers with the muscle check, to return to PACE, and that should help clarify the responses – “when in doubt, PACE”. Could you also check the dimensions using different body parts/positions as long as the intention/question was appropriate? So I personally, would not encourage you to do this, or teach this to others, because one of the things that’s important to me, as an instructor teaching others, is to keep it simple and clear. Keep It Simple Sweetie. I hope that’s helpful, and I’ll be curious to hear what Jocelyn, Pamela, and others have to say. Larhken Larhken B. Carroll 510-531-9729Work Smarter, Not Harder with Brain Gym®Licensed Brain Gym InstructorEducational Kinesiologisthttp://www.braingym.org Independent Mannatech Associate http://www.mannatech.com -----Original Message-----From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of FreitasSent: Saturday, April 08, 2006 1:24 AM Subject: Re: muscle checking *Pamela,Larhken,Jocelyn Thank you Pamela, Larhken, and Jocelyn for your feedback on the supraspinatus muscle check. It was very helpful.I have another question which I hope you can answer. Svetlana mentioned in class that any part of the body could be used for muscle checking, but perhaps this was only within the context of the exercises once the stimulus for a particular reflex has been given. Could you also check the dimensions using different body parts/positions as long as the intention/question was appropriate?Val Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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