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Here you go, drpeppe, Joyce &

I came across this the other day.

something to think about

Mark

The Paradox of our Time-By Carlin

The paradox of our time in history is that we have...

taller buildings, but shorter tempers;

wider freeways, but narrower viewpoints.

We...

spend more, but have less; buy more, but enjoy it less.

We have...

bigger houses and smaller families;

more conveniences, but less time;

more degrees, but less sense;

more knowledge, but less judgement;

more experts, but more problems;

more medicine, but less wellness.

We...

drink too much, smoke too much, spend to recklessly,

laugh too little, drive too fast, get angry to quickly,

stay up too late, get up too tired, read too seldom,

watch tv too much, and pray too seldom.

We have...

multiplied our possessions, but reduced our values.

We...

talk too much, love too seldom, and hate too often.

We've learned how to...

make a living, but not a life;

add years to life, not life to years.

We've been all the way to the moon and back,

but have trouble crossing the street to meet the new neighbor.

We've conquered outer space, but not inner space.

We've done larger things, but not better things.

We've cleaned up the air, but polluted the soul.

We've split the atom, but not our prejudice.

We write more, but learn less.

We plan more, but accomplish less.

We've learned to rush, but not to wait.

We build more computers to hold information to produce more copies than

ever, but have less communication.

These are the times of...

fast foods and slow digestion; tall men, and short character;

steep profits, and shallow relationships;

world peace, but domestic warfare; more leisure, but less fun;

more kinds of food, but less nutrition;

two incomes, but more divorce; fancier houses, but broken homes;

quick trips, disposable diapers, throw away morality,

one night stands, overweight bodies, and pills that do everything from

cheer, to quiet, to kill.

It is a time when there is...

much int he show window and nothing tin the stockroom; technology can bring

you this letter to you, and you can choose either to share this insight...

or just hit 'DELETE'!

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Something to think about........

Can you imagine working at the following Company? It has a

little over 500 employees with the following statistics:

29 have been accused of spousal abuse

7 have been arrested for fraud

19 have been accused of writing bad checks

117 have bankrupted at least two businesses

3 have been arrested for assault

71 cannot get a credit card due to bad credit

14 have been arrested on drug-related charges

8 have been arrested for shoplifting

21 are current defendants in lawsuits

In 1998 alone, 84 were stopped for drunk driving

Can you guess which organization this is? Give up?

It's the 535 members of your United States Congress. The

same group that perpetually cranks out hundreds upon

hundreds of new laws designed to keep the rest of us in

line.

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,

Do you know the source of that list of stats on the US

Congress??

My father teaches Criminal Justice at University level

and he would like to use that, but doesn't want to

risk false accusations.

Thanks,

Sara

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> Do you know the source of that list of stats on the US

> Congress??

>

> My father teaches Criminal Justice at University level

> and he would like to use that, but doesn't want to

> risk false accusations.

>

> Thanks,

> Sara

Sara....couldn't figure out for a long time what you were talking about.

Someone else sent it to me and I'm not sure if I can even remember who. I

THINK it was my aunt Helen (who is a teacher too). I will e-mail her and

see if it was her.

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Thanks ! I would be ever so grateful.. and my

father, he'd be thrilled to know the source!

-Sara

--- <lauranra@...> wrote:

> From: " " <lauranra@...>

>

>

>

> > Do you know the source of that list of stats on

> the US

> > Congress??

> >

> > My father teaches Criminal Justice at University

> level

> > and he would like to use that, but doesn't want to

> > risk false accusations.

> >

> > Thanks,

> > Sara

>

> Sara....couldn't figure out for a long time what you

> were talking about.

> Someone else sent it to me and I'm not sure if I can

> even remember who. I

> THINK it was my aunt Helen (who is a teacher too).

> I will e-mail her and

> see if it was her.

>

>

>

>

>

> ---------------------------

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Sara: I've had several people send this to me, via

e:mail and the internet. It would be interesting to

see if it is all true!

Judi

--- Sara Greenberg <dsyndrome@...> wrote:

>

>

> ,

>

> Do you know the source of that list of stats on the

> US

> Congress??

>

> My father teaches Criminal Justice at University

> level

> and he would like to use that, but doesn't want to

> risk false accusations.

>

> Thanks,

> Sara

> __________________________________________________

>

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Sara/: Ok, this was bugging me when I saw it.

Check out: www.snopes.com, then click on " tales of the

wooden spoon " , then click on " faxlore/netlore " , then

scroll down to " Congress mend " .

Apparently someone concocted this. The people who run

this site (for urban legends), picked it apart as far

as being full of probably half truths and general

vagueness. Sara: Hope this answers your question for

your Dad!

Judi-Mom to Sam & , 3, Identical Twins

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Date: Fri, 14 Jan 2000 21:50:54 -0500

From: " " <lauranraxxxx (DOT) xxx>

Subject: Fw: Something to think about

Something to think about........

Can you imagine working at the following Company? It

has a little over 500 employees with the following

statistics:

29 have been accused of spousal abuse

7 have been arrested for fraud

19 have been accused of writing bad checks

117 have bankrupted at least two businesses

3 have been arrested for assault

71 cannot get a credit card due to bad credit

14 have been arrested on drug-related charges

8 have been arrested for shoplifting

21 are current defendants in lawsuits

In 1998 alone, 84 were stopped for drunk driving

Can you guess which organization this is? Give up?

It's the 535 members of your United tates Congress.

The

same group that perpetually cranks out hundreds upon

hundreds of new laws designed to keep the rest of us

in

line.

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Jule,

Thank you for a great post.

Your words reminded me of all the great advice in " Don't Sweat the Small

Stuff, and it is all small stuff " , one of the best motivational books I ever

read, though I have yet to implement all the great pieces of advice in there.

NetDad

In a message dated 3/24/00 3:19:14 PM Eastern Standard Time,

j.monnens@... writes:

<< There is a lot of food for thought in this e-mail that I just got from a

friend. Felt it was worth passing along.

I have a friend who lives by a three-word philosophy: Seize the moment.

Just possibly she may be the wisest woman on this planet. Too many people

put off something that brings them joy just because they haven't thought

about it, don't have it on their schedule, didn't know it was coming or are

too rigid to depart from their routine. I got to thinking one day about all

those women on the Titanic who passed up dessert at dinner that fateful

night in an effort to cut back. From then on, I've tried to be a little

more flexible.

How many women out there will eat at home because their husband didn't

suggest going out to dinner until after something had been thawed? Does the

word " refrigeration " mean nothing to you? I cannot count the times I called

my sister and said, " How about going to lunch in a half hour? " She would

gasp and stammer, " I can't. " Check one: " I have clothes on the line. " " My

hair is dirty. " " I wish I had known yesterday, " " I had a late breakfast. "

" It looks like rain. " And my personal favorite: - " It's Monday " . She died a

few years ago. We never did have lunch together. Because Americans cram so

much into their lives, we tend to schedule our headaches.

We live on a sparse diet of promises we make to ourselves when all the

conditions are perfect: We'll go back and visit the grandparents when we

get Stevie toilet-trained. We'll entertain-when we replace the living-room

carpet. We'll go on a second honeymoon when we get two more kids out of

college. Life has a way of accelerating as we get older. The days get

shorter, and the list of promises to ourselves gets longer. One morning, we

awaken, and all we have to show for our lives is a litany of " I'm going

to, " " I plan on " and " Someday, when things are settled down a bit. "

When anyone calls my 'seize the moment' friend, she is open to adventure

and available for trips. She keeps an open mind on new ideas. Her

enthusiasm for life is contagious. You talk with her for five minutes, and

you're ready to trade your bad feet for a pair of Roller blades and skip an

elevator for a bungee cord. My lips have not touched ice cream in 10 years.

I love ice cream. It's just that I might as well apply it directly to my

hips with a spatula and eliminate the digestive process. The other day, I

stopped the car and bought a triple-decker. If my car had hit an iceberg on

the way home, I would have died happy.

Now...go on and have a nice day. Do something you WANT to ... not something

on your SHOULD DO list.

**Pain & suffering are inevitable...misery is optional! **

People will forget what you said, people will forget what you did,

But people will never forget how you made them feel. :)

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* If you throw a cat out of the car window, does it become kitty

litter?

* If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn?

* Is it OK to use the AM radio after noon?

* What do chickens think we taste like?

What do people in China call their good plates?

* What do you call a male ladybug?

* What hair color do they put on the driver's license of a bald

man?

* When dog food is new and improved tasting, who tests it?

* Why didn't Noah swat those two mosquitoes?

* Why is it called tourist season if we can't shoot at them?

* Why do you need a driver's license to buy liquor when you

can't drink and

drive?

* Why isn't phonetic spelled the way it sounds?

* Why are cigarettes sold at gas stations where smoking is

prohibited?

* Have you ever imagined a world without Hypothetical

situations?

* How does the guy who drives the snowplow get to work?

* Why is a bra singular and panties plural?

* You know that indestructible black box that is used on

airplanes, why

don't they make the whole plane of that stuff?

* If a firefighter fights fire and a crime fighter fights crime,

what does a

freedom fighter fight?

* If they squeeze olives to get olive oil, how do they get baby

oil?

* If a cow laughs, does milk come out of her nose?

* If you are driving at the speed of light and you turn your

headlights on,

what happens?

* Why do they put Braille dots on the keypad of a drive-up ATM?

* Why don't sheep shrink when it rains?

* What would Geronimo say if he jumped out of an airplane?

* Why are they called apartments when they are all stuck

together?

* If con is the opposite of pro, is Congress the opposite of

progress?

* If flying is so safe, why do they call the airport the

terminal?

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* If you throw a cat out of the car window, does it become kitty litter?

* If you choke a Smurf, what color does it turn?

* Is it OK to use the AM radio after noon?

* What do chickens think we taste like?

What do people in China call their good plates?

* What do you call a male ladybug?

* What hair color do they put on the driver's license of a bald man?

* When dog food is new and improved tasting, who tests it?

* Why didn't Noah swat those two mosquitoes?

* Why is it called tourist season if we can't shoot at them?

* Why do you need a driver's license to buy liquor when you can't drink and

drive?

* Why isn't phonetic spelled the way it sounds?

* Why are cigarettes sold at gas stations where smoking is prohibited?

* Have you ever imagined a world without Hypothetical situations?

* How does the guy who drives the snowplow get to work?

* Why is a bra singular and panties plural?

* You know that indestructible black box that is used on airplanes, why

don't they make the whole plane of that stuff?

* If a firefighter fights fire and a crime fighter fights crime, what does a

freedom fighter fight?

* If they squeeze olives to get olive oil, how do they get baby oil?

* If a cow laughs, does milk come out of her nose?

* If you are driving at the speed of light and you turn your headlights on,

what happens?

* Why do they put Braille dots on the keypad of a drive-up ATM?

* Why don't sheep shrink when it rains?

* What would Geronimo say if he jumped out of an airplane?

* Why are they called apartments when they are all stuck together?

* If con is the opposite of pro, is Congress the opposite of progress?

* If flying is so safe, why do they call the airport the terminal?

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In a message dated 8/12/00 7:20:04 PM Pacific Daylight Time, paul.3@...

writes:

<< Any thoughts? >>

I like your thoughts! I am new to this group and am amazed to learn I am not

alone! You are all stimulating my mind and getting me thinking again! I was

about ready to give up hope!

Jeannie

mom to Mark and ~

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ihatebush said:

You could die tomorrow and everything you did in your life was

worthless.

That is not true at all. I have given life, and nurtured, and taught.

If I die tomorrow, my life WILL have meant something.

And I sort of resent finding what amounts to a campaign ad in a

toiletries list...especially from someone I don't know a thing about.

who is now going to finish making a birthday dinner for her 12yo

daughter...and then celebrate with all her children.

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This member has been dealt with. This type of post has no business here on

this list and will not be tolerated.

Thanks all,

Co-owner

Toiletries List

(putting away her wet-noodle whip) :)

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>>From: ihatebush@...

>>Subject: Something to think about

This is not the place for this kind of propaganda

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--- LillliePearl@... wrote:

> From: LillliePearl@...

> Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 18:56:16 EST

> Subject: Fwd: Fw: Something to Think About

> ellen2601@..., JKFontes1@...,

> LiLEyeris@...,

> daytripper_78155@...

>

> Rec'd this from a good friend and FMSer, Sandi.

> Lil'

>

> ATTACHMENT part 2 message/rfc822

> From: " Sandi Gandre " <skgandre@...>

> " Janet " <LillliePearl@...>

> Subject: Fw: Something to Think About

> Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2001 13:00:44 -0800

>

>

> FW: Something to Think About

>

>

> A LEVEL OF PERFECTION...

>

>

> In Brooklyn, New York, Chush is a school that caters

> to learning disabled children. Some children remain

> in Chush for their entire school career, while

> others can be mainstreamed into conventional

> schools.

>

> At a Chush fundraising dinner, the father of a Chush

> child delivered a speech that would never be

> forgotten by all who attended.

>

> After extolling the school and its dedicated staff,

> he cried out, " What is the perfection in my son,

> Shay? Everything God does is done with perfection.

> But my child cannot understand things as other

> children do. My child cannot remember facts and

> figures as other children do. Where is God's

> perfection?

>

>

> The audience was shocked by the question, pained by

> the father's anguish and stilled by the piercing

> query. " I believe, " the father answered, that when

> God brings a child like this into the world, the

> perfection that he seeks is in the way people react

> to this child " .

>

>

> He then told the following story about his son Shay:

> One afternoon, Shay and his father walked past a

> park where some boys Shay knew were playing

> baseball. Shay asked, " Do you think they will let

> me play? " Shay's father knew that most boys would

> not want him on their team. But Shay's father

> understood that if his son was chosen to play, it

> would give him a comfortable sense of belonging.

>

>

> Shay's father approached one of the boys in the

> field and asked if Shay could play. The boy looked

> around for guidance from his teammates. Getting

> none, he took matters into his own hands and said,

> " We are losing by six runs and the game is in the

> eighth inning. I guess he can be on our team and

> we'll try to put him up to bat in the ninth inning. "

>

>

> Shay's father was ecstatic as Shay smiled broadly.

> Shay was told to put on a glove and go out to play

> short center field.

>

>

> In the bottom of the eighth inning, Shay's team

> scored a few runs but was still behind by three. In

> the bottom of the ninth inning, Shay's team scored

> again and now with two outs and the bases loaded

> with the potential winning run on base, Shay was

> scheduled to be up. Would the team actually let Shay

> bat at this juncture and give away their chance to

> win the game?

>

>

> Surprisingly, Shay was given the bat. Everyone knew

> that it was all but impossible, because Shay didn't

> even know how to hold the bat properly, let alone

> hit with it.

>

>

> However as Shay stepped up to the plate, the pitcher

> moved a few steps to lob the ball in softly, so Shay

> should at least be able to make contact. The first

> pitch came and Shay swung clumsily and missed. One

> of Shay's teammates came up to Shay and together

> they held the bat and faced the pitcher waiting for

> the next pitch. The pitcher again took a few steps

> forward to toss the ball softly toward Shay. As the

> pitch came in, Shay and his teammate swung at the

> ball and together they hit a slow ground ball to the

> pitcher.

>

>

> The pitcher picked up the soft grounder and could

> easily have thrown the ball to the first baseman.

> Shay would have been out and that would have ended

> the game. Instead, the pitcher took the ball and

> threw it on a high arc to right field, far beyond

> reach of the first baseman.

>

>

> Everyone started yelling, " Run to first. Run to

> first " . Never in his life had Shay run to first. He

> scampered down the baseline, wide-eyed and startled.

> By the time he reached first base, the right fielder

> had the ball. He could have thrown the ball to the

> second baseman who would tag out Shay, who was still

> running. But the right fielder understood what the

> pitcher's intentions were, so he threw the ball high

> and far over the third baseman's head.

>

>

> Everyone yelled, " Run to second, run to second. "

> Shay ran towards second base as the runners ahead of

> him deliriously circled the bases towards home. As

> Shay reached second base, the opposing short stop

> ran to him, turned him in the direction of third

> base and shouted, " Run to third. "

>

> As Shay rounded third, the boys from both teams ran

> behind him screaming, " Shay, run home. " Shay ran

> home, stepped on home plate and all 18 boys lifted

> him on their shoulders and made him the hero, as he

> had just hit a " grand slam " and won the game for his

> team.

>

>

> That day, " said the father softly, with tears now

> rolling down his face, " those 18 boys reached their

> level of God's perfection. "

>

>

> Funny, how this is so true! Funny, how people can

> send a thousand 'jokes' through e-mail and they

> spread like wildfire, but when one starts sending

> messages regarding life choices, people think twice

> about sharing them Funny, how the lewd and crude

> pass freely through cyberspace, but public

> discussion of morality is too often suppressed in

> school and the workplace. Funny, how when you go to

> forward this message (if you choose to forward it),

> you will not send it to everyone on your address

> list because you're not sure what they believe, or

> what they will think of you for sending it to them.

> Funny, how we can be more worried about what other

> people think of us, than what we think of ourselves.

>

>

>

> Funny, how this is a time when technology can bring

> this letter to you...and a time when you can choose

> either to make a difference...or just hit delete.

>

> Vickers

>

>

>

=====

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gebleven en dat is misschien genoeg " - Stef Bos " Te weten wat men weet en te

weten wat men niet weet, dat is kennis " - Confucius - Mijn site:

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SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT

Beamer was on " Good Morning America. " If you remember,

she's the wife of Todd Beamer who said, " Let's Roll! " and helped take

down the plane that was heading for Washington D. C. She said it's the

little things that she misses most about Todd, such as hearing the garage

dooropen as he came home, and her children running to meet him. She's now

the Mom of a beautiful little girl, . recalled this story: I had

a very special teacher in high school many years ago whose husband died

suddenly of a heart attack. About a week after his death, she shared some

of her insight with a classroom of students. As the late afternoon sunlight

came streaming in through the classroom windows and the class was nearly

over, she moved a few things aside on the edge of her desk and sat down

there. With a gentle look of reflection on her face, she paused and said,

" Class is over, I would like to share with all of you, a thought that is

unrelated to class, but which I feel is very important. " " Each of us is

put here on earth to learn, share, love, appreciate and give of ourselves.

None of us knows when this fantastic experience will end. It can be taken away

at any moment. Perhaps this is the powers way of telling us that we must

make themost out of every single day. " Her eyes beginning to water, she went on.

" So I would like you all to make me a promise. From now on, on your way

to school, or on your way home, find something beautiful to notice. It

doesn't have to be something you see--it could be a scent, perhaps of

freshly baked bread wafting out of someone's house, or it could be the

sound of the breeze slightly rustling the leaves in the trees, or the way

the morning light catches one autumn leaf as it falls gently to

the ground. " " Please look for these things, and cherish them. For,

although it may sound trite to some, these things are the 'stuff' of

life. The little things we are put here on earth to enjoy. The things we often

take for granted. " " We must make it important to notice them, for at

anytime it can all be taken away.

" The class was completely quiet. We all picked up our books and filed

out of the room silently. That afternoon, I noticed more things on my way

home from school than I had that whole semester. Every once in a while,

I think of that teacher and remember what an impression she made on

all of us, and I try to appreciate all of those things that sometimes we all

overlook. Take notice of something special you see on your lunch hour today.

Go barefoot. Or walk on the beach at sunset. Stop off on the way home

tonight to get a double dip ice cream cone. For as we get older, it is not

the things we did that we often regret, but the things we didn't do.

If you like this, please pass it on to a friend; if not, just delete it and go

on

with your life!

" Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take, but by the

moments that take our breath away. "

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It has certainly crossed my mind. Maybe it is a combination of all these

factors and many others, including genetic, immunizations, etc. It is a wide

spectrum and reasonable to think it may have many different causes. Pati

something to think about

Hi all

I have been reading with interest the debate over whether vaccines are

responsible for autism. I don't dispute the fact that some children

are harmed by vaccines--although, in my daughter's case, looking back,

I think her problems started to surface long before her MMR.

What I've been thinking about,lately, is that there have been a lot of

changes in society as a whole over the past, say 20 years (around the

time of the rise in autism?) How many of you remember a time when our

households functioned without microwave ovens, VCR's, computers,

cordless or cell phones, fax machines? How safe are these, really?

What about our food sources--cattle and chickens are pumped full of

antibiotics--then we eat them, drink the milk. Crops are being

genetically modified--not always with our knowledge. Could the very

food we put into our bodies be harming our children--or make them more

vulnerable to something like autism? There has been a rise overall in

other problems, too, like allergies, asthma, learning disorders in

children, I'm sure you could all add to that list.

I wish we knew the cause of autism--it would save all of us a lot of

pain and anguish if only we knew why our children are disabled.

Maybe I'm completely off base here with my concerns-- I certainly

don't want to upset anyone, but I would just wonder if these thoughts

have crossed anyone else's mind?

Leanne

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I don't mean any disrespect either, but it gets my goat when someone

says definitively that genetics/vaccines/accident/etc is the definite

cause of all autism. There is no more proof about genes being the

cause of autism than there is of vaccines, with the exception of

fragile X and Rhett's.

It seems to me the best way to find the cause(s) of autism would be

to do exactly what a recent study did with autism. Find all the

common threads of the symptoms of autism and work backward. We could

argue all day long on the safety of vaccines, what family had how

many members that acted weird, etc, but none of it can explain the

definite biological process of autism or the increase of numbers.

My own daughter didn't seem right from my womb. She didn't move a lot

and when she was born just didn't seem right. However, a bad case of

the chicken pox at 9 months old brought lots of changes in her, like

refusing foods, stopped nursing, cried a lot more. She also received

her second Heb B as she still had pox drying on her body, as the

immunization report date shows. Was it chicken pox that set her on

the course, thimerasol on the vaccine that was still in use, the Hep

shot itself, or a combo of the three? Or, was it all coincidence

since she seemed a little different from the beginning?

You know, I've wondered why a major study isn't launched following a

large amount of children from birth, like 10,000 babies. Blood could

be taken from the cord at birth, and at three month intervals and the

parent could fill a survey of infant development, habits, and food

consumption. If 1 in 150 children are autistic, then that would give

approximately 60 children with autism with some significant data that

could show some real potential for figuring this out. Not to mention

this data could potentially help with so many other issues. And the

blood samples would prove indispensable for tracking immune changes,

how vaccines affect infants, etc.

Maybe some scientist out there will catch on and do something like

this, at least we can hope!

Debi

> Hi all

> I have been reading with interest the debate over whether vaccines

are

> responsible for autism.

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Actually there is hope for the study you were talking about. Kennedy Kreiger

Institute is doing a study on young babies, the siblings of children with

autism, since sometimes there can be autism among siblings to try and figure out

new information, early signs of autism, etc. I don't know a lot about it, but I

did read about it on their website. Pati

Re: something to think about

I don't mean any disrespect either, but it gets my goat when someone

says definitively that genetics/vaccines/accident/etc is the definite

cause of all autism. There is no more proof about genes being the

cause of autism than there is of vaccines, with the exception of

fragile X and Rhett's.

It seems to me the best way to find the cause(s) of autism would be

to do exactly what a recent study did with autism. Find all the

common threads of the symptoms of autism and work backward. We could

argue all day long on the safety of vaccines, what family had how

many members that acted weird, etc, but none of it can explain the

definite biological process of autism or the increase of numbers.

My own daughter didn't seem right from my womb. She didn't move a lot

and when she was born just didn't seem right. However, a bad case of

the chicken pox at 9 months old brought lots of changes in her, like

refusing foods, stopped nursing, cried a lot more. She also received

her second Heb B as she still had pox drying on her body, as the

immunization report date shows. Was it chicken pox that set her on

the course, thimerasol on the vaccine that was still in use, the Hep

shot itself, or a combo of the three? Or, was it all coincidence

since she seemed a little different from the beginning?

You know, I've wondered why a major study isn't launched following a

large amount of children from birth, like 10,000 babies. Blood could

be taken from the cord at birth, and at three month intervals and the

parent could fill a survey of infant development, habits, and food

consumption. If 1 in 150 children are autistic, then that would give

approximately 60 children with autism with some significant data that

could show some real potential for figuring this out. Not to mention

this data could potentially help with so many other issues. And the

blood samples would prove indispensable for tracking immune changes,

how vaccines affect infants, etc.

Maybe some scientist out there will catch on and do something like

this, at least we can hope!

Debi

> Hi all

> I have been reading with interest the debate over whether vaccines

are

> responsible for autism.

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ummmm I saw a commercial the other night for Dr. Drew and he was testing purses for bacteria and other germs. Don't know what happened. So I bet this is sparked from his show

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I haven't watched TV for several months at least; but last time I

did, I remember seeing commercials for drugs. I live in Canada. When

did they stop allowing them on TV? Given the government we have now,

that really surprises me.

blessings

Shan

>

> I just heard on some TV program over the weekend that while

> the USA has only 5% of the world's population we consume over

> 50% of the worlds prescription drugs.

>

> And in all other countries except for New Zealand all prescription

> drug commercials are BANNED from being shown on TV. And, New

> Zealand will be banning them very soon. Only the USA will then

> have TV COMMERCIALS for statins, viagra, etc.

>

> Can you remember the days when there were no such commercials?

>

> I wonder why it is that the USA is the only country that will

> still allow the commercials to be exploited onto the people of

> this country? Could it be that the FDA and the federal government

> truly do not care what happens to the citizens of the country

> as long as the pharmaceutical companies are making their profits?

>

> Why don't we start a petition to ban pharmaceutical commercials

> from our airwaves too? Someday I wonder if the prescription drug

> commercials will end up banned because the public will have had

> it with the deaths and lives that are being ruined while the drug

> companies get rich? Does this sound like the tobacco companies

> back in the old days? Remember cigarette commercials on TV. Not

> until it was proven that cigarettes can kill were then banned.

>

> How many lives need to be ruined from statins before those TV ads

> are banned from the TV and all other forms of media too?

>

> Something to think about!!!

>

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On Monday 23 October 2006 5:24 am, Ed Gundy wrote:

> I just heard on some TV program over the weekend that while

> the USA has only 5% of the world's population we consume over

> 50% of the worlds prescription drugs.

>

> And in all other countries except for New Zealand all prescription

> drug commercials are BANNED from being shown on TV. And, New

> Zealand will be banning them very soon. Only the USA will then

> have TV COMMERCIALS for statins, viagra, etc.

>

> Can you remember the days when there were no such commercials?

>

> I wonder why it is that the USA is the only country that will

> still allow the commercials to be exploited onto the people of

> this country? Could it be that the FDA and the federal government

> truly do not care what happens to the citizens of the country

> as long as the pharmaceutical companies are making their profits?

>

> Why don't we start a petition to ban pharmaceutical commercials

> from our airwaves too? Someday I wonder if the prescription drug

> commercials will end up banned because the public will have had

> it with the deaths and lives that are being ruined while the drug

> companies get rich? Does this sound like the tobacco companies

> back in the old days? Remember cigarette commercials on TV. Not

> until it was proven that cigarettes can kill were then banned.

>

> How many lives need to be ruined from statins before those TV ads

> are banned from the TV and all other forms of media too?

>

> Something to think about!!!

It used to be illegal for companies to lobby congress, that law fell by the

wayside many years ago. I think we need to return to the days when only

individuals could lobby their congressmen.

--

Steve - dudescholar2@...

" What luck for rulers, that men do not think. "

--Adolph Hitler

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