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Geez Tam I love you, and I know you're in pain so much, but I didn't

see how Ken was being confrontational at all and I don't see why

gender had to come into this discussion.

Ken and Karl have both taken a lot of time out of their lives to

provide resources on this site and others that would help a lot of

people if people would take the time to read it and not be spoon-fed

information. They have also both moderated the boards, along with

myself, for years, and given a lot of hope and help to people.

All the times we've tried to get others to contribute to the library

no one has stepped up for the most part, and recently I couldn't even

get anyone to help compile a list of the aspirin densentization

clinics arount the world (which would not be that hard of a task). I

understand many are sick, and also tired, but Ken and Karl have

suffered from Samter's just as much as any of us and still found the

time to give back. So I get a little defensive when people go after

them.

By the way, Ken is not talking about the posts! He is talking about

the extensive library here or files and links and about Karl's web

site, both of which are very easy to access and read through the

information.

People can say what they think here unless it's oersonally abusive,

and likewise, Karl and Ken are entitled to their opinions. I don't

think I've weighed in on the homeopathy discussion, and I think I

will avoid that topic for now.

Tami and others, I know it can be hard, but try not to take things so

personally. I've taken things personally, and it doesn't help.

Ken's post had just as much genuine praise of the group here as it

did sarcasm. I doubt Ken meant you personally, Tami, and I don't

remember seeing either Ken or Karl attack anyone personally.

Let's all take some deep breaths and step back. I hope Karl will not

stay away but if he needs a break he is entitled.

Lori

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