Guest guest Posted June 4, 2011 Report Share Posted June 4, 2011 Could you break this down for me Asfyso? Does this mean there is benefit to drinking Kefir daily in fighting off infections?JaneFrom: asfy <asfyso@...>Subject: Kephirsamters Date: Saturday, June 4, 2011, 7:45 AM Anaerobe. 2011 May 23. [Epub ahead of print]In vitro assay of the antimicrobial activity of kephir against bacterial and fungal strains.Chifiriuc MC, Cioaca AB, Lazar V.SourceUniversity of Bucharest, Faculty of Biology, Microbiology Immunology Department, Ale. Portocalelor 1-3, 60101 Bucharest, Romania.AbstractKephir is a fermented carbonated refreshing milk, with a slightly acidic aromatic taste and creamy foam composition which contains lactobacilli, leuconostocci, acetic acid bacteria, lactostreptococci and yeasts. Recent studies have demonstrated its antibacterial, immunostimulating, antitumoral and cholesterol-lowering activities.PURPOSE:The purpose of this study was to investigate the antimicrobial activity of kephir against Bacillus subtilis spp. spizizenii ATCC 6633, Staphylococcus aureus ATCC 6538, Enterococcus faecalis ATCC 29212, Escherichia coli ATCC 8739, Salmonella enteritidis ATCC 13076, Pseudomonas aeruginosa ATCC 9027 and Candida albicans ATCC 10231. The kephir fermented for 24 h and 48 h, as well and after 7 days preservation at 4-8 °C was tested by in vitro disk diffusion method. The intensity of the antimicrobial activity was interpreted by comparison with two antibiotics, i.e. ampicillin and neomycin.RESULTS:The antimicrobial activity of 24 h as well as 48 fermented kephir, fresh or after 7 days preservation at 4-8 °C was similar and observed against B. subtilis, S. aureus, E. coli, E. faecalis and S. enteritidis. For E. coli, E. faecalis and S. enteritidis the antimicrobial activity was superior to both tested antibiotics and for B. subtilis and S. aureus to one antibiotic. The tested products exhibited no activity against P. aeruginosa and C. albicans.CONCLUSION:Kephir is exhibiting large spectrum and strong antibacterial activity probably due to the complex viable probiotic strains association producing antimicrobial substances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2011 Report Share Posted June 4, 2011 Dear Jane We do drink kefir around this part of the world (Turkey) to boost immunity, ccand it is very beneficial in fighting off infections, as a probiotic. I have also heard from people who have had cancer that it is very helpful in the treatment of cancer. Highly recommended… Berna From: samters [mailto:samters ] On Behalf Of Jane Marino Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2011 5:45 PM samters Subject: Re: Kephir Could you break this down for me Asfyso? Does this mean there is benefit to drinking Kefir daily in fighting off infections? Jane From: asfy <asfyso@...> Subject: Kephir samters Date: Saturday, June 4, 2011, 7:45 AM Anaerobe. 2011 May 23. [Epub ahead of print] In vitro assay of the antimicrobial activity of kephir against bacterial and fungal strains. Chifiriuc MC, Cioaca AB, Lazar V. Source University of Bucharest, Faculty of Biology, Microbiology Immunology Department, Ale. Portocalelor 1-3, 60101 Bucharest, Romania. Abstract Kephir is a fermented carbonated refreshing milk, with a slightly acidic aromatic taste and creamy foam composition which contains lactobacilli, leuconostocci, acetic acid bacteria, lactostreptococci and yeasts. Recent studies have demonstrated its antibacterial, immunostimulating, antitumoral and cholesterol-lowering activities. PURPOSE: The purpose of this study was to investigate the antimicrobial activity of kephir against Bacillus subtilis spp. spizizenii ATCC 6633, Staphylococcus aureus ATCC 6538, Enterococcus faecalis ATCC 29212, Escherichia coli ATCC 8739, Salmonella enteritidis ATCC 13076, Pseudomonas aeruginosa ATCC 9027 and Candida albicans ATCC 10231. The kephir fermented for 24 h and 48 h, as well and after 7 days preservation at 4-8 °C was tested by in vitro disk diffusion method. The intensity of the antimicrobial activity was interpreted by comparison with two antibiotics, i.e. ampicillin and neomycin. RESULTS: The antimicrobial activity of 24 h as well as 48 fermented kephir, fresh or after 7 days preservation at 4-8 °C was similar and observed against B. subtilis, S. aureus, E. coli, E. faecalis and S. enteritidis. For E. coli, E. faecalis and S. enteritidis the antimicrobial activity was superior to both tested antibiotics and for B. subtilis and S. aureus to one antibiotic. The tested products exhibited no activity against P. aeruginosa and C. albicans. CONCLUSION: Kephir is exhibiting large spectrum and strong antibacterial activity probably due to the complex viable probiotic strains association producing antimicrobial substances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2011 Report Share Posted June 4, 2011 Thanks Berna. I have not had the nerve to try it as I know it would be a new taster for me. I do drink soy, but I hear Kefir tastes quite different.Jane From: asfy <asfyso@...> Subject: Kephir samters Date: Saturday, June 4, 2011, 7:45 AM Anaerobe. 2011 May 23. [Epub ahead of print] In vitro assay of the antimicrobial activity of kephir against bacterial and fungal strains. Chifiriuc MC, Cioaca AB, Lazar V. Source University of Bucharest, Faculty of Biology, Microbiology Immunology Department, Ale. Portocalelor 1-3, 60101 Bucharest, Romania. Abstract Kephir is a fermented carbonated refreshing milk, with a slightly acidic aromatic taste and creamy foam composition which contains lactobacilli, leuconostocci, acetic acid bacteria, lactostreptococci and yeasts. Recent studies have demonstrated its antibacterial, immunostimulating, antitumoral and cholesterol-lowering activities. PURPOSE: The purpose of this study was to investigate the antimicrobial activity of kephir against Bacillus subtilis spp. spizizenii ATCC 6633, Staphylococcus aureus ATCC 6538, Enterococcus faecalis ATCC 29212, Escherichia coli ATCC 8739, Salmonella enteritidis ATCC 13076, Pseudomonas aeruginosa ATCC 9027 and Candida albicans ATCC 10231. The kephir fermented for 24 h and 48 h, as well and after 7 days preservation at 4-8 °C was tested by in vitro disk diffusion method. The intensity of the antimicrobial activity was interpreted by comparison with two antibiotics, i.e. ampicillin and neomycin. RESULTS: The antimicrobial activity of 24 h as well as 48 fermented kephir, fresh or after 7 days preservation at 4-8 °C was similar and observed against B. subtilis, S. aureus, E. coli, E. faecalis and S. enteritidis. For E. coli, E. faecalis and S. enteritidis the antimicrobial activity was superior to both tested antibiotics and for B. subtilis and S. aureus to one antibiotic. The tested products exhibited no activity against P. aeruginosa and C. albicans. CONCLUSION: Kephir is exhibiting large spectrum and strong antibacterial activity probably due to the complex viable probiotic strains association producing antimicrobial substances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2011 Report Share Posted June 4, 2011 It tastes similar to unsweatened yogurt. I got used to it in about a week. It did help my immunity. I got ill and needed antibiotic treatment only once this winter.  Worth a try… From: samters [mailto:samters ] On Behalf Of Jane Marino Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2011 11:47 PM samters Subject: RE: Kephir Thanks Berna. I have not had the nerve to try it as I know it would be a new taster for me. I do drink soy, but I hear Kefir tastes quite different. Jane From: asfy <asfyso@...> Subject: Kephir samters Date: Saturday, June 4, 2011, 7:45 AM Anaerobe. 2011 May 23. [Epub ahead of print] In vitro assay of the antimicrobial activity of kephir against bacterial and fungal strains. Chifiriuc MC, Cioaca AB, Lazar V. Source University of Bucharest, Faculty of Biology, Microbiology Immunology Department, Ale. Portocalelor 1-3, 60101 Bucharest, Romania. Abstract Kephir is a fermented carbonated refreshing milk, with a slightly acidic aromatic taste and creamy foam composition which contains lactobacilli, leuconostocci, acetic acid bacteria, lactostreptococci and yeasts. Recent studies have demonstrated its antibacterial, immunostimulating, antitumoral and cholesterol-lowering activities. PURPOSE: The purpose of this study was to investigate the antimicrobial activity of kephir against Bacillus subtilis spp. spizizenii ATCC 6633, Staphylococcus aureus ATCC 6538, Enterococcus faecalis ATCC 29212, Escherichia coli ATCC 8739, Salmonella enteritidis ATCC 13076, Pseudomonas aeruginosa ATCC 9027 and Candida albicans ATCC 10231. The kephir fermented for 24 h and 48 h, as well and after 7 days preservation at 4-8 °C was tested by in vitro disk diffusion method. The intensity of the antimicrobial activity was interpreted by comparison with two antibiotics, i.e. ampicillin and neomycin. RESULTS: The antimicrobial activity of 24 h as well as 48 fermented kephir, fresh or after 7 days preservation at 4-8 °C was similar and observed against B. subtilis, S. aureus, E. coli, E. faecalis and S. enteritidis. For E. coli, E. faecalis and S. enteritidis the antimicrobial activity was superior to both tested antibiotics and for B. subtilis and S. aureus to one antibiotic. The tested products exhibited no activity against P. aeruginosa and C. albicans. CONCLUSION: Kephir is exhibiting large spectrum and strong antibacterial activity probably due to the complex viable probiotic strains association producing antimicrobial substances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2011 Report Share Posted June 4, 2011 Jane, This means that Kefir has some antimicrobial activity through direct contact with germs (ie as in contact within the gut). It may also have immune-boosting capacity, but it is not the subject of this abstract. > > From: asfy <asfyso@...> > Subject: Kephir > samters > Date: Saturday, June 4, 2011, 7:45 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > Anaerobe. 2011 May 23. [Epub ahead of print]In vitro assay of the antimicrobial activity of kephir against bacterial and fungal strains.Chifiriuc MC, Cioaca AB, Lazar V.SourceUniversity of Bucharest, Faculty of Biology, Microbiology Immunology Department, Ale. Portocalelor 1-3, 60101 Bucharest, Romania.AbstractKephir is a fermented carbonated refreshing milk, with a slightly acidic aromatic taste and creamy foam composition which contains lactobacilli, leuconostocci, acetic acid bacteria, lactostreptococci and yeasts. Recent studies have demonstrated its antibacterial, immunostimulating, antitumoral and cholesterol-lowering activities.PURPOSE:The purpose of this study was to investigate the antimicrobial activity of kephir against Bacillus subtilis spp. spizizenii ATCC 6633, Staphylococcus aureus ATCC 6538, Enterococcus faecalis ATCC 29212, Escherichia coli ATCC 8739, Salmonella enteritidis ATCC 13076, Pseudomonas aeruginosa ATCC 9027 and > Candida albicans ATCC 10231. The kephir fermented for 24 h and 48 h, as well and after 7 days preservation at 4-8 °C was tested by in vitro disk diffusion method. The intensity of the antimicrobial activity was interpreted by comparison with two antibiotics, i.e. ampicillin and neomycin.RESULTS:The antimicrobial activity of 24 h as well as 48 fermented kephir, fresh or after 7 days preservation at 4-8 °C was similar and observed against B. subtilis, S. aureus, E. coli, E. faecalis and S. enteritidis. For E. coli, E. faecalis and S. enteritidis the antimicrobial activity was superior to both tested antibiotics and for B. subtilis and S. aureus to one antibiotic. The tested products exhibited no activity against P. aeruginosa and C. albicans.CONCLUSION:Kephir is exhibiting large spectrum and strong antibacterial activity probably due to the complex viable probiotic strains association producing antimicrobial substances. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 4, 2011 Report Share Posted June 4, 2011 Thank you. I may have to finally try Kefir. I am all for boosting my immunity any way I can. I've had too many sinus infections again and seem to live on and off of antibiotics! I'm sure they are not doing my gut any good.JaneFrom: asfy <asfyso@...>Subject: Re: Kephirsamters Date: Saturday, June 4, 2011, 5:22 PM Jane, This means that Kefir has some antimicrobial activity through direct contact with germs (ie as in contact within the gut). It may also have immune-boosting capacity, but it is not the subject of this abstract. > > From: asfy <asfyso@...> > Subject: Kephir > samters > Date: Saturday, June 4, 2011, 7:45 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > Anaerobe. 2011 May 23. [Epub ahead of print]In vitro assay of the antimicrobial activity of kephir against bacterial and fungal strains.Chifiriuc MC, Cioaca AB, Lazar V.SourceUniversity of Bucharest, Faculty of Biology, Microbiology Immunology Department, Ale. Portocalelor 1-3, 60101 Bucharest, Romania.AbstractKephir is a fermented carbonated refreshing milk, with a slightly acidic aromatic taste and creamy foam composition which contains lactobacilli, leuconostocci, acetic acid bacteria, lactostreptococci and yeasts. Recent studies have demonstrated its antibacterial, immunostimulating, antitumoral and cholesterol-lowering activities.PURPOSE:The purpose of this study was to investigate the antimicrobial activity of kephir against Bacillus subtilis spp. spizizenii ATCC 6633, Staphylococcus aureus ATCC 6538, Enterococcus faecalis ATCC 29212, Escherichia coli ATCC 8739, Salmonella enteritidis ATCC 13076, Pseudomonas aeruginosa ATCC 9027 and > Candida albicans ATCC 10231. The kephir fermented for 24 h and 48 h, as well and after 7 days preservation at 4-8 °C was tested by in vitro disk diffusion method. The intensity of the antimicrobial activity was interpreted by comparison with two antibiotics, i.e. ampicillin and neomycin.RESULTS:The antimicrobial activity of 24 h as well as 48 fermented kephir, fresh or after 7 days preservation at 4-8 °C was similar and observed against B. subtilis, S. aureus, E. coli, E. faecalis and S. enteritidis. For E. coli, E. faecalis and S. enteritidis the antimicrobial activity was superior to both tested antibiotics and for B. subtilis and S. aureus to one antibiotic. The tested products exhibited no activity against P. aeruginosa and C. albicans.CONCLUSION:Kephir is exhibiting large spectrum and strong antibacterial activity probably due to the complex viable probiotic strains association producing antimicrobial substances. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2011 Report Share Posted June 5, 2011 Korean Red Ginseng is a good immune booster too (3-week cures), so is broccoli. > > > > > > From: asfy <asfyso@> > > > Subject: Kephir > > > samters > > > Date: Saturday, June 4, 2011, 7:45 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anaerobe. 2011 May 23. [Epub ahead of print]In vitro assay of the antimicrobial activity of kephir against bacterial and fungal strains.Chifiriuc MC, Cioaca AB, Lazar V.SourceUniversity of Bucharest, Faculty of Biology, Microbiology Immunology Department, Ale. Portocalelor 1-3, 60101 Bucharest, Romania.AbstractKephir is a fermented carbonated refreshing milk, with a slightly acidic aromatic taste and creamy foam composition which contains lactobacilli, leuconostocci, acetic acid bacteria, lactostreptococci and yeasts. Recent studies have demonstrated its antibacterial, immunostimulating, antitumoral and cholesterol-lowering activities.PURPOSE:The purpose of this study was to investigate the antimicrobial activity of kephir against Bacillus subtilis spp. spizizenii ATCC 6633, Staphylococcus aureus ATCC 6538, Enterococcus faecalis ATCC 29212, Escherichia coli ATCC 8739, Salmonella enteritidis ATCC 13076, Pseudomonas aeruginosa ATCC 9027 > and > > > Candida albicans ATCC 10231. The kephir fermented for 24 h and 48 h, as well and after 7 days preservation at 4-8 °C was tested by in vitro disk diffusion method. The intensity of the antimicrobial activity was interpreted by comparison with two antibiotics, i.e. ampicillin and neomycin.RESULTS:The antimicrobial activity of 24 h as well as 48 fermented kephir, fresh or after 7 days preservation at 4-8 °C was similar and observed against B. subtilis, S. aureus, E. coli, E. faecalis and S. enteritidis. For E. coli, E. faecalis and S. enteritidis the antimicrobial activity was superior to both tested antibiotics and for B. subtilis and S. aureus to one antibiotic. The tested products exhibited no activity against P. aeruginosa and C. albicans.CONCLUSION:Kephir is exhibiting large spectrum and strong antibacterial activity probably due to the complex viable probiotic strains association producing > antimicrobial substances. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2011 Report Share Posted June 5, 2011 My husband was drinking kefir for a while for its beneficial ingredients, but now is avoiding all dairy products because the pro's don't seem to outweigh the con's. I believe acidophilus or probiotics could be a good substitute.Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerryFrom: Jane Marino <janesmarino@...>Sender: samters Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2011 16:32:06 -0700 (PDT)<samters >Reply samters Subject: Re: Re: Kephir Thank you. I may have to finally try Kefir. I am all for boosting my immunity any way I can. I've had too many sinus infections again and seem to live on and off of antibiotics! I'm sure they are not doing my gut any good.JaneFrom: asfy <asfyso@...>Subject: Re: Kephirsamters Date: Saturday, June 4, 2011, 5:22 PM Jane,This means that Kefir has some antimicrobial activity through direct contact with germs (ie as in contact within the gut). It may also have immune-boosting capacity, but it is not the subject of this abstract.> > From: asfy <asfyso@...>> Subject: Kephir> samters > Date: Saturday, June 4, 2011, 7:45 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > Anaerobe. 2011 May 23. [Epub ahead of print]In vitro assay of the antimicrobial activity of kephir against bacterial and fungal strains.Chifiriuc MC, Cioaca AB, Lazar V.SourceUniversity of Bucharest, Faculty of Biology, Microbiology Immunology Department, Ale. Portocalelor 1-3, 60101 Bucharest, Romania.AbstractKephir is a fermented carbonated refreshing milk, with a slightly acidic aromatic taste and creamy foam composition which contains lactobacilli, leuconostocci, acetic acid bacteria, lactostreptococci and yeasts. Recent studies have demonstrated its antibacterial, immunostimulating, antitumoral and cholesterol-lowering activities.PURPOSE:The purpose of this study was to investigate the antimicrobial activity of kephir against Bacillus subtilis spp. spizizenii ATCC 6633, Staphylococcus aureus ATCC 6538, Enterococcus faecalis ATCC 29212, Escherichia coli ATCC 8739, Salmonella enteritidis ATCC 13076, Pseudomonasaeruginosa ATCC 9027 and> Candida albicans ATCC 10231. The kephir fermented for 24 h and 48 h, as well and after 7 days preservation at 4-8 °C was tested by in vitro disk diffusion method. The intensity of the antimicrobial activity was interpreted by comparison with two antibiotics, i.e. ampicillin and neomycin.RESULTS:The antimicrobial activity of 24 h as well as 48 fermented kephir, fresh or after 7 days preservation at 4-8 °C was similar and observed against B. subtilis, S. aureus, E. coli, E. faecalis and S. enteritidis. For E. coli, E. faecalis and S. enteritidis the antimicrobial activity was superior to both tested antibiotics and for B. subtilis and S. aureus to one antibiotic. The tested products exhibited no activity against P. aeruginosa and C. albicans.CONCLUSION:Kephir is exhibiting large spectrum and strong antibacterial activity probably dueto the complex viable probiotic strains association producing antimicrobial substances.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2011 Report Share Posted June 5, 2011 Well, I've never tried Korean Red Ginseng and I don't like broccoli! Can you get the ginseng at any health food stores?JaneFrom: asfy <asfyso@...>Subject: Re: Kephirsamters Date: Sunday, June 5, 2011, 2:08 AM Korean Red Ginseng is a good immune booster too (3-week cures), so is broccoli. > > > > > > From: asfy <asfyso@> > > > Subject: Kephir > > > samters > > > Date: Saturday, June 4, 2011, 7:45 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anaerobe. 2011 May 23. [Epub ahead of print]In vitro assay of the antimicrobial activity of kephir against bacterial and fungal strains.Chifiriuc MC, Cioaca AB, Lazar V.SourceUniversity of Bucharest, Faculty of Biology, Microbiology Immunology Department, Ale. Portocalelor 1-3, 60101 Bucharest, Romania.AbstractKephir is a fermented carbonated refreshing milk, with a slightly acidic aromatic taste and creamy foam composition which contains lactobacilli, leuconostocci, acetic acid bacteria, lactostreptococci and yeasts. Recent studies have demonstrated its antibacterial, immunostimulating, antitumoral and cholesterol-lowering activities.PURPOSE:The purpose of this study was to investigate the antimicrobial activity of kephir against Bacillus subtilis spp. spizizenii ATCC 6633, Staphylococcus aureus ATCC 6538, Enterococcus faecalis ATCC 29212, Escherichia coli ATCC 8739, Salmonella enteritidis ATCC 13076, Pseudomonas aeruginosa ATCC 9027 > and > > > Candida albicans ATCC 10231. The kephir fermented for 24 h and 48 h, as well and after 7 days preservation at 4-8 °C was tested by in vitro disk diffusion method. The intensity of the antimicrobial activity was interpreted by comparison with two antibiotics, i.e. ampicillin and neomycin.RESULTS:The antimicrobial activity of 24 h as well as 48 fermented kephir, fresh or after 7 days preservation at 4-8 °C was similar and observed against B. subtilis, S. aureus, E. coli, E. faecalis and S. enteritidis. For E. coli, E. faecalis and S. enteritidis the antimicrobial activity was superior to both tested antibiotics and for B. subtilis and S. aureus to one antibiotic. The tested products exhibited no activity against P. aeruginosa and C. albicans.CONCLUSION:Kephir is exhibiting large spectrum and strong antibacterial activity probably due to the complex viable probiotic strains association producing > antimicrobial substances. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2011 Report Share Posted June 5, 2011 Ginseng can be found at a number of stores, but there is a difference between American Ginseng and Korean Ginseng (Panax Ginseng), with Korean Ginseng being the most studied and recommended. Then, there are two types of Korean Ginseng : white and red. The white one is the standard grade, while the red one is aged 5-6 years, has been processed, and is traditionally much more valued because it is richer in active elements. The usual advice with ginseng is to begin with a 3-week cure of a gram every morning before breakfast, either pure or in a drink, and then have at least a 3-week pause before considering another try. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: asfy <asfyso@> > > > > > > > Subject: Kephir > > > > > > > samters > > > > > > > Date: Saturday, June 4, 2011, 7:45 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anaerobe. 2011 May 23. [Epub ahead of print]In vitro assay of the antimicrobial activity of kephir against bacterial and fungal strains.Chifiriuc MC, Cioaca AB, Lazar V.SourceUniversity of Bucharest, Faculty of Biology, Microbiology Immunology Department, Ale. Portocalelor 1-3, 60101 Bucharest, Romania.AbstractKephir is a fermented carbonated refreshing milk, with a slightly acidic aromatic taste and creamy foam composition which contains lactobacilli, leuconostocci, acetic acid bacteria, lactostreptococci and yeasts. Recent studies have demonstrated its antibacterial, immunostimulating, antitumoral and cholesterol-lowering activities.PURPOSE:The purpose of this study was to investigate the antimicrobial activity of kephir against Bacillus subtilis spp. spizizenii ATCC 6633, Staphylococcus aureus ATCC 6538, Enterococcus faecalis ATCC 29212, Escherichia coli ATCC 8739, Salmonella enteritidis ATCC 13076, Pseudomonas > aeruginosa ATCC 9027 > > > and > > > > > > > Candida albicans ATCC 10231. The kephir fermented for 24 h and 48 h, as well and after 7 days preservation at 4-8 °C was tested by in vitro disk diffusion method. The intensity of the antimicrobial activity was interpreted by comparison with two antibiotics, i.e. ampicillin and neomycin.RESULTS:The antimicrobial activity of 24 h as well as 48 fermented kephir, fresh or after 7 days preservation at 4-8 °C was similar and observed against B. subtilis, S. aureus, E. coli, E. faecalis and S. enteritidis. For E. coli, E. faecalis and S. enteritidis the antimicrobial activity was superior to both tested antibiotics and for B. subtilis and S. aureus to one antibiotic. The tested products exhibited no activity against P. aeruginosa and C. albicans.CONCLUSION:Kephir is exhibiting large spectrum and strong > antibacterial activity probably due to the complex viable probiotic strains association producing > > > antimicrobial substances. > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2011 Report Share Posted June 5, 2011 Thank you. I really appreciate this info. Can you tell me why a "pause" is needed in between the 3-week trials?JaneFrom: asfy <asfyso@...>Subject: Re: Kephirsamters Date: Sunday, June 5, 2011, 9:38 AM Ginseng can be found at a number of stores, but there is a difference between American Ginseng and Korean Ginseng (Panax Ginseng), with Korean Ginseng being the most studied and recommended. Then, there are two types of Korean Ginseng : white and red. The white one is the standard grade, while the red one is aged 5-6 years, has been processed, and is traditionally much more valued because it is richer in active elements. The usual advice with ginseng is to begin with a 3-week cure of a gram every morning before breakfast, either pure or in a drink, and then have at least a 3-week pause before considering another try. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: asfy <asfyso@> > > > > > > > Subject: Kephir > > > > > > > samters > > > > > > > Date: Saturday, June 4, 2011, 7:45 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anaerobe. 2011 May 23. [Epub ahead of print]In vitro assay of the antimicrobial activity of kephir against bacterial and fungal strains.Chifiriuc MC, Cioaca AB, Lazar V.SourceUniversity of Bucharest, Faculty of Biology, Microbiology Immunology Department, Ale. Portocalelor 1-3, 60101 Bucharest, Romania.AbstractKephir is a fermented carbonated refreshing milk, with a slightly acidic aromatic taste and creamy foam composition which contains lactobacilli, leuconostocci, acetic acid bacteria, lactostreptococci and yeasts. Recent studies have demonstrated its antibacterial, immunostimulating, antitumoral and cholesterol-lowering activities.PURPOSE:The purpose of this study was to investigate the antimicrobial activity of kephir against Bacillus subtilis spp. spizizenii ATCC 6633, Staphylococcus aureus ATCC 6538, Enterococcus faecalis ATCC 29212, Escherichia coli ATCC 8739, Salmonella enteritidis ATCC 13076, Pseudomonas > aeruginosa ATCC 9027 > > > and > > > > > > > Candida albicans ATCC 10231. The kephir fermented for 24 h and 48 h, as well and after 7 days preservation at 4-8 °C was tested by in vitro disk diffusion method. The intensity of the antimicrobial activity was interpreted by comparison with two antibiotics, i.e. ampicillin and neomycin.RESULTS:The antimicrobial activity of 24 h as well as 48 fermented kephir, fresh or after 7 days preservation at 4-8 °C was similar and observed against B. subtilis, S. aureus, E. coli, E. faecalis and S. enteritidis. For E. coli, E. faecalis and S. enteritidis the antimicrobial activity was superior to both tested antibiotics and for B. subtilis and S. aureus to one antibiotic. The tested products exhibited no activity against P. aeruginosa and C. albicans.CONCLUSION:Kephir is exhibiting large spectrum and strong > antibacterial activity probably due to the complex viable probiotic strains association producing > > > antimicrobial substances. > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 5, 2011 Report Share Posted June 5, 2011 Yes, thanks. I’ve got broccoli cooking for dinner and am going to start snacking on ginseng for breakfast. I’m supposed to do some IgG test that involves blood titres and vaccinations (tetanus and pneumonia) -- no one has really explained it to me yet -- but I want to get my immune system kicking so I don’t have to do any other treatments.On Jun 5, 2011, at 5:26 PM, Jane Marino wrote: Thank you. I really appreciate this info. Can you tell me why a "pause" is needed in between the 3-week trials?JaneFrom: asfy <asfyso@...>Subject: Re: Kephirsamters Date: Sunday, June 5, 2011, 9:38 AM Ginseng can be found at a number of stores, but there is a difference between American Ginseng and Korean Ginseng (Panax Ginseng), with Korean Ginseng being the most studied and recommended. Then, there are two types of Korean Ginseng : white and red. The white one is the standard grade, while the red one is aged 5-6 years, has been processed, and is traditionally much more valued because it is richer in active elements. The usual advice with ginseng is to begin with a 3-week cure of a gram every morning before breakfast, either pure or in a drink, and then have at least a 3-week pause before considering another try. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: asfy <asfyso@> > > > > > > > Subject: Kephir > > > > > > > samters > > > > > > > Date: Saturday, June 4, 2011, 7:45 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anaerobe. 2011 May 23. [Epub ahead of print]In vitro assay of the antimicrobial activity of kephir against bacterial and fungal strains.Chifiriuc MC, Cioaca AB, Lazar V.SourceUniversity of Bucharest, Faculty of Biology, Microbiology Immunology Department, Ale. Portocalelor 1-3, 60101 Bucharest, Romania.AbstractKephir is a fermented carbonated refreshing milk, with a slightly acidic aromatic taste and creamy foam composition which contains lactobacilli, leuconostocci, acetic acid bacteria, lactostreptococci and yeasts. Recent studies have demonstrated its antibacterial, immunostimulating, antitumoral and cholesterol-lowering activities.PURPOSE:The purpose of this study was to investigate the antimicrobial activity of kephir against Bacillus subtilis spp. spizizenii ATCC 6633, Staphylococcus aureus ATCC 6538, Enterococcus faecalis ATCC 29212, Escherichia coli ATCC 8739, Salmonella enteritidis ATCC 13076, Pseudomonas > aeruginosa ATCC 9027 > > > and > > > > > > > Candida albicans ATCC 10231. The kephir fermented for 24 h and 48 h, as well and after 7 days preservation at 4-8 °C was tested by in vitro disk diffusion method. The intensity of the antimicrobial activity was interpreted by comparison with two antibiotics, i.e. ampicillin and neomycin.RESULTS:The antimicrobial activity of 24 h as well as 48 fermented kephir, fresh or after 7 days preservation at 4-8 °C was similar and observed against B. subtilis, S. aureus, E. coli, E. faecalis and S. enteritidis. For E. coli, E. faecalis and S. enteritidis the antimicrobial activity was superior to both tested antibiotics and for B. subtilis and S. aureus to one antibiotic. The tested products exhibited no activity against P. aeruginosa and C. albicans.CONCLUSION:Kephir is exhibiting large spectrum and strong > antibacterial activity probably due to the complex viable probiotic strains association producing > > > antimicrobial substances. > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2011 Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 Jane,It's just that I have seen this advice repeatedly and I believe it is traditional advice. I attribute it to the fact that ginseng is an immunomodulator and that a common recommendation with immunomodulators is to take "pauses", presumably to prevent the immune system from getting too much accustomed to them and to preserve their efficacy.Also be aware that is it is not recommended to take ginseng along with anticoagulants, probably because ginseng already has anticoagulant effects.For complete information including safety recommendations, read the University of land's monography on asian ginseng.http://www.umm.edu/altmed/articles/asian-ginseng-000249.htmhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ginseng--- In samters , Jane Marino <janesmarino@...> wrote:>> Thank you. I really appreciate this info. Can you tell me why a "pause" is needed in between the 3-week trials?> Jane> > > > From: asfy asfyso@...> Subject: Re: Kephir> samters > Date: Sunday, June 5, 2011, 9:38 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > Ginseng can be found at a number of stores, but there is a difference between American Ginseng and Korean Ginseng (Panax Ginseng), with Korean Ginseng being the most studied and recommended. Then, there are two types of Korean Ginseng : white and red. The white one is the standard grade, while the red one is aged 5-6 years, has been processed, and is traditionally much more valued because it is richer in active elements. The usual advice with ginseng is to begin with a 3-week cure of a gram every morning before breakfast, either pure or in a drink, and then have at least a 3-week pause before considering another try. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: asfy <asfyso@>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Kephir> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > samters > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Date: Saturday, June 4, 2011, 7:45 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anaerobe.ÃÆ'‚ 2011 May 23. [Epub ahead of print]In vitro assay of the antimicrobial activity of kephir against bacterial and fungal strains.Chifiriuc MC,ÃÆ'‚ Cioaca AB,ÃÆ'‚ Lazar V.SourceUniversity of Bucharest, Faculty of Biology, Microbiology Immunology Department, Ale. Portocalelor 1-3, 60101 Bucharest, Romania.AbstractKephir is a fermented carbonated refreshing milk, with a slightly acidic aromatic taste and creamy foam composition which contains lactobacilli, leuconostocci, acetic acid bacteria, lactostreptococci and yeasts. Recent studies have demonstrated its antibacterial, immunostimulating, antitumoral and cholesterol-lowering activities.PURPOSE:The purpose of this study was to investigate the antimicrobial activity of kephir against Bacillus subtilis spp. spizizenii ATCC 6633, Staphylococcus aureus ATCC 6538, Enterococcus faecalis ATCC 29212, Escherichia coli ATCC 8739, Salmonella> enteritidis ATCC 13076, Pseudomonas> > > aeruginosa ATCC 9027> > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Candida albicans ATCC 10231. The kephir fermented for 24ÃÆ'‚ h and 48ÃÆ'‚ h, as well and after 7 days preservation at 4-8ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚°C was tested by inÃÆ'‚ vitro disk diffusion method. The intensity of the antimicrobial activity was interpreted by comparison with two antibiotics, i.e. ampicillin and neomycin.RESULTS:The antimicrobial activity of 24ÃÆ'‚ h as well as 48 fermented kephir, fresh or after 7 days preservation at 4-8ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚°C was similar and observed against B.ÃÆ'‚ subtilis, S.ÃÆ'‚ aureus, E.ÃÆ'‚ coli, E. faecalis and S.ÃÆ'‚ enteritidis. For E.ÃÆ'‚ coli, E. faecalis and S.ÃÆ'‚ enteritidis the antimicrobial activity was superior to both tested antibiotics and for B.ÃÆ'‚ subtilis and S.ÃÆ'‚ aureus to one> antibiotic. The tested products exhibited no activity against P.ÃÆ'‚ aeruginosa and C.ÃÆ'‚ albicans.CONCLUSION:Kephir is exhibiting large spectrum and strong> > > antibacterial activity probably due to the complex viable probiotic strains association producing> > > > > > > antimicrobial substances.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 6, 2011 Report Share Posted June 6, 2011 Thank you so much Asfyso! I really appreciate this info.!Jane> > From: asfy asfyso@...> Subject: Re: Kephir> samters > Date: Sunday, June 5, 2011, 9:38 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > > Ginseng can be found at a number of stores, but there is a difference between American Ginseng and Korean Ginseng (Panax Ginseng), with Korean Ginseng being the most studied and recommended. Then, there are two types of Korean Ginseng : white and red. The white one is the standard grade, while the red one is aged 5-6 years, has been processed, and is traditionally much more valued because it is richer in active elements. The usual advice with ginseng is to begin with a 3-week cure of a gram every morning before breakfast, either pure or in a drink, and then have at least a 3-week pause before considering another try. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From: asfy <asfyso@>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: Kephir> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > samters > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Date: Saturday, June 4, 2011, 7:45 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÆ'‚ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Anaerobe.ÃÆ'‚ 2011 May 23. [Epub ahead of print]In vitro assay of the antimicrobial activity of kephir against bacterial and fungal strains.Chifiriuc MC,ÃÆ'‚ Cioaca AB,ÃÆ'‚ Lazar V.SourceUniversity of Bucharest, Faculty of Biology, Microbiology Immunology Department, Ale. Portocalelor 1-3, 60101 Bucharest, Romania.AbstractKephir is a fermented carbonated refreshing milk, with a slightly acidic aromatic taste and creamy foam composition which contains lactobacilli, leuconostocci, acetic acid bacteria, lactostreptococci and yeasts. Recent studies have demonstrated its antibacterial, immunostimulating, antitumoral and cholesterol-lowering activities.PURPOSE:The purpose of this study was to investigate the antimicrobial activity of kephir against Bacillus subtilis spp. spizizenii ATCC 6633, Staphylococcus aureus ATCC 6538, Enterococcus faecalis ATCC 29212, Escherichia coli ATCC 8739, Salmonella> enteritidis ATCC 13076, Pseudomonas> > > aeruginosa ATCC 9027> > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Candida albicans ATCC 10231. The kephir fermented for 24ÃÆ'‚ h and 48ÃÆ'‚ h, as well and after 7 days preservation at 4-8ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚°C was tested by inÃÆ'‚ vitro disk diffusion method. The intensity of the antimicrobial activity was interpreted by comparison with two antibiotics, i.e. ampicillin and neomycin.RESULTS:The antimicrobial activity of 24ÃÆ'‚ h as well as 48 fermented kephir, fresh or after 7 days preservation at 4-8ÃÆ'‚ ÃÆ'‚°C was similar and observed against B.ÃÆ'‚ subtilis, S.ÃÆ'‚ aureus, E.ÃÆ'‚ coli, E. faecalis and S.ÃÆ'‚ enteritidis. For E.ÃÆ'‚ coli, E. faecalis and S.ÃÆ'‚ enteritidis the antimicrobial activity was superior to both tested antibiotics and for B.ÃÆ'‚ subtilis and S.ÃÆ'‚ aureus to one> antibiotic. The tested products exhibited no activity against P.ÃÆ'‚ aeruginosa and C.ÃÆ'‚ albicans.CONCLUSION:Kephir is exhibiting large spectrum and strong> > > antibacterial activity probably due to the complex viable probiotic strains association producing> > > > > > > antimicrobial substances.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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