Re: how are things going

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Sorry, but you hit a nerve with me so please don't take offense

I've read it cover to cover two years ago and I think it's a load of

crap and worse than that it's designed to make people feel guilty.

There are a few common sense things in the book (like we shouldn't have

soda, I think -- yes, it's true, soda is just about as bad as drinking

battery acid, but it doesn't take a doctor to tell us that!) but

otherwise I think it's awful and just made me feel terrible and I cried

for weeks thinking I did everything bad to myself, even though I'm a

fairly healthy eater, have never smoked and I don't drink alcohol. My

one vice right now is soda although I've never been a big soda drinker,

and I do plan to stop drinking it. I don't eat red meat, I eat fish

and some chicken and turkey. Anyway I just don't like that book at

all. Even the stuff that's true is pretty much impossible to do unless

you move to another country.

Lori

>

> Hi Lori,

> Just checking to see how you are doing. I'm checking into a book

written by " Trudeau " called natural cures.

> Has anyone read it? You might want to read it, if you haven't.

> I am currently trying something from the book but will update after

I'm done, with the outcome.

> Tami

>

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Hi Lori,

I'm not offended at all. I haven't read much of it yet, but my sister has. There is one thing that I'm trying though, and that's the peroxide, and after I started drinking it, I had gobs of infection coming out of my sinuses. I never have drainage, so it was a positive thing for me. Now it makes sense why she's so insistant on me eating better soon. I'm a tough sell though, so I will do what I want, as always.

After I'm done working I plan to read the book so I have a better understanding of where you are coming from.

If there is one thing in life I have realized, it's to let go of any guilt. Sometimes, things are what they are, period. I have very strong faith and that has taken my guilt away for the most part.

I'm very sorry if I upset you Lori. I didn't realize the book was based on eating and guilt, I thought it was a book on natural cures like drinking peroxide and I had such good luck with it so far, I thought I'd share it. I will be more careful in the future to read the material before sharing.

Hope you are having a good day today. Mold is out of my house now, but I'm still working in the raspberry fields which are loaded with mold, so my headaches persist. I'm hoping to be completely healed when the snow flies.

Tami

Re: how are things going

Sorry, but you hit a nerve with me so please don't take offenseI've read it cover to cover two years ago and I think it's a load of crap and worse than that it's designed to make people feel guilty.There are a few common sense things in the book (like we shouldn't have soda, I think -- yes, it's true, soda is just about as bad as drinking battery acid, but it doesn't take a doctor to tell us that!) but otherwise I think it's awful and just made me feel terrible and I cried for weeks thinking I did everything bad to myself, even though I'm a fairly healthy eater, have never smoked and I don't drink alcohol. My one vice right now is soda although I've never been a big soda drinker, and I do plan to stop drinking it. I don't eat red meat, I eat fish and some chicken and turkey. Anyway I just don't like that book at all. Even the stuff that's true is pretty much impossible to do unless you move to another country. Lori>> Hi Lori,> Just checking to see how you are doing. I'm checking into a book written by " Trudeau" called natural cures.> Has anyone read it? You might want to read it, if you haven't.> I am currently trying something from the book but will update after I'm done, with the outcome.> Tami>

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Tami

Do you know anything about the aspirin desentisization program at the U of W hospital in Madison?

Re: Re: how are things going

Hi Pam,

You get it at a health food store. My sis did a ton of research on this. There's also all kinds pro and con web sites on this. This is not something the medical profession would be in favor of due to political reasons I think...but can't offer a completely informed comment yet. I've been working 12 hour days for a couple of months now and haven't had time to do anything else besides rest as my body is completely shutting down with fatigue from all the mold outside. I live in Wisconsin and it is almost 90 today with high humidity. We are breaking records here. I'm waiting for fall!!!!!!

I'm going to keep checking into this peroxide thing. It wasn't until after I started doing the peroxide that my sinuses started to drown me. Within 24 hours, I think. I have never seen so much infected mucus ever come out of my snout. The mold had been just removed from my home, so wasn't sure which it was, but after I stopped doing peroxide, within two days my sinuses stopped draining and the pressure was incredible. When I started the peroxide the second time, it started draining again. Who knows, but this is the closest I've come to my sinuses draining in years. I actually had a runny nose one day.

Tami

Re: how are things going

Sorry, but you hit a nerve with me so please don't take offense

I've read it cover to cover two years ago and I think it's a load of

crap and worse than that it's designed to make people feel guilty.

There are a few common sense things in the book (like we shouldn't have

soda, I think -- yes, it's true, soda is just about as bad as drinking

battery acid, but it doesn't take a doctor to tell us that!) but

otherwise I think it's awful and just made me feel terrible and I cried

for weeks thinking I did everything bad to myself, even though I'm a

fairly healthy eater, have never smoked and I don't drink alcohol. My

one vice right now is soda although I've never been a big soda drinker,

and I do plan to stop drinking it. I don't eat red meat, I eat fish

and some chicken and turkey. Anyway I just don't like that book at

all. Even the stuff that's true is pretty much impossible to do unless

you move to another country.

Lori

>

> Hi Lori,

> Just checking to see how you are doing. I'm checking into a book

written by " Trudeau" called natural cures.

> Has anyone read it? You might want to read it, if you haven't.

> I am currently trying something from the book but will update after

I'm done, with the outcome.

> Tami

>

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,

I didn't hear about it. Could you give me more info, as I am very interested in getting desensed, that is, if you know more about it. I finally talked my doc into doing it if my headaches don't go away this winter. I'm terribly sick of pain meds. I already stopped the tramadol last week and will stop the darvon after my raspberry season. Did you do the desense there? Or are you thinking about doing it?

Madison is only 1.5 hours from my house. I live in sport (Fond du Lac county). do you live close to Madison.

Tami

Re: how are things going Sorry, but you hit a nerve with me so please don't take offenseI've read it cover to cover two years ago and I think it's a load of crap and worse than that it's designed to make people feel guilty.There are a few common sense things in the book (like we shouldn't have soda, I think -- yes, it's true, soda is just about as bad as drinking battery acid, but it doesn't take a doctor to tell us that!) but otherwise I think it's awful and just made me feel terrible and I cried for weeks thinking I did everything bad to myself, even though I'm a fairly healthy eater, have never smoked and I don't drink alcohol. My one vice right now is soda although I've never been a big soda drinker, and I do plan to stop drinking it. I don't eat red meat, I eat fish and some chicken and turkey. Anyway I just don't like that book at all. Even the stuff that's true is pretty much impossible to do unless you move to another country. Lori>> Hi Lori,> Just checking to see how you are doing. I'm checking into a book written by " Trudeau" called natural cures.> Has anyone read it? You might want to read it, if you haven't.> I am currently trying something from the book but will update after I'm done, with the outcome.> Tami>

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Hi Tami,

Here is the link; http://www.uwhealth.org/servlet/Satellite?cid=1051054541187 & pagename=A_UWH_HOME%2FPage%2FUWH%2FHC%2FProvider%2FProviderDetails & providerID=AB43D3A0-B9EA-11D2-B9AB-00A0C9E603DD & c=Page

I live in Rockford, IL about an hour from Madison.

Perhaps by this email other members of the group can give info of where desensing can be done.

Re: Re: how are things going

,

I didn't hear about it. Could you give me more info, as I am very interested in getting desensed, that is, if you know more about it. I finally talked my doc into doing it if my headaches don't go away this winter. I'm terribly sick of pain meds. I already stopped the tramadol last week and will stop the darvon after my raspberry season. Did you do the desense there? Or are you thinking about doing it?

Madison is only 1.5 hours from my house. I live in sport (Fond du Lac county). do you live close to Madison.

Tami

Re: how are things going

Sorry, but you hit a nerve with me so please don't take offense

I've read it cover to cover two years ago and I think it's a load of

crap and worse than that it's designed to make people feel guilty.

There are a few common sense things in the book (like we shouldn't have

soda, I think -- yes, it's true, soda is just about as bad as drinking

battery acid, but it doesn't take a doctor to tell us that!) but

otherwise I think it's awful and just made me feel terrible and I cried

for weeks thinking I did everything bad to myself, even though I'm a

fairly healthy eater, have never smoked and I don't drink alcohol. My

one vice right now is soda although I've never been a big soda drinker,

and I do plan to stop drinking it. I don't eat red meat, I eat fish

and some chicken and turkey. Anyway I just don't like that book at

all. Even the stuff that's true is pretty much impossible to do unless

you move to another country.

Lori

>

> Hi Lori,

> Just checking to see how you are doing. I'm checking into a book

written by " Trudeau" called natural cures.

> Has anyone read it? You might want to read it, if you haven't.

> I am currently trying something from the book but will update after

I'm done, with the outcome.

> Tami

>

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I'd love to try the onion juice, there's just one problem, I hate onions. I've tried to eat them thinking it was a rediculous thing to gag over, but to no avail. If I get brave enough someday, I may try it.

Tami

Re: how are things going

Sorry, but you hit a nerve with me so please don't take offenseI've read it cover to cover two years ago and I think it's a load of crap and worse than that it's designed to make people feel guilty.There are a few common sense things in the book (like we shouldn't have soda, I think -- yes, it's true, soda is just about as bad as drinking battery acid, but it doesn't take a doctor to tell us that!) but otherwise I think it's awful and just made me feel terrible and I cried for weeks thinking I did everything bad to myself, even though I'm a fairly healthy eater, have never smoked and I don't drink alcohol. My one vice right now is soda although I've never been a big soda drinker, and I do plan to stop drinking it. I don't eat red meat, I eat fish and some chicken and turkey. Anyway I just don't like that book at all. Even the stuff that's true is pretty much impossible to do unless you move to another country. Lori>> Hi Lori,> Just checking to see how you are doing. I'm checking into a book written by " Trudeau" called natural cures.> Has anyone read it? You might want to read it, if you haven't.> I am currently trying something from the book but will update after I'm done, with the outcome.> Tami>

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Hi Tami,

The book is not just about eating, it's about every single thing you

do all day long basically and how everything we do is bad for us.

I'd love to hear your thoughts on it after you read it. My doctor

has kind of a spoof on that book called, well, " Everything You Do is

Bad for You " or " Everything You Do Can Kill You " or something like

that, which honestly is quite true. We all are going to die it's

just a matter of when and how.

I don't remember the part about drinking peroxide, it seems pretty

dangerous to me, but I had to put the book away because some of it

upset me so much. I don't know if I still have it here or if I sold

it on Amazon.

Letting go of guilt is a good idea. very hard to do when reading

that book because the kind of lifestyle one would have to live

following what it says in that book is pretty much impossible and is

guilt-laden for how one has been living their life. Also I don't

think a person is supposed to do only some of the things in the book,

you're supposed to try to do all of them otherwise they don't work as

well because we're all polluting our bodies in other ways.

Hugs to you, Tami!

Lori

> >

> > Hi Lori,

> > Just checking to see how you are doing. I'm checking into a

book

> written by " Trudeau " called natural cures.

> > Has anyone read it? You might want to read it, if you haven't.

> > I am currently trying something from the book but will update

after

> I'm done, with the outcome.

> > Tami

> >

>

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Tom, Good luck to you on the desensitization. I am 4 months into the process and doing great. Stick with it. You might not feel your best during the first month of it but stick with it. I really think you'll feel it will be worth it. I already do and I'm not even done with the process yet. Best wishes, Jane from DenverTom Schultz <tschultz@...> wrote: Tami, I live in a neighboring state, Minnesota, and just had my 4th sinus surgery last week. My ENT doctor biopsied my polyps and was able to determine that some antibiotics will help my sinus infections, while others will have no effect at all. I will be starting the desensitizing process at the University of Minnesota hospital in about a month, once I am completely healed from the surgery. I was told that they are the only hospital in the state of Minnesota to do desensitizing. I just started irrigating with NeilMed within the last few month and highly recommend it to all of you. I use 8 oz. of filtered water, warm it in the microwave for 30 seconds, and then irrigate. It really helps. As far as the asthma  is concerned, my doctor has me using a Flovent inhaler, and I haven’t had an asthma attack in over 10 years. Before that I was having 2 or 3 major attacks a day and had to use an Albuterol inhaler or a Nebulizer. My best to all of you. I’m glad I found this group after having this

condition for 15 years. If we all keep sharing information, hopefully they will find a cure for us. Tom Schultz From: samters [mailto:samters ] On Behalf Of ChartacJSaolSent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 6:21 PMsamters Subject: Re: Re: how are things going Hi Tami,Here is the link; http://www.uwhealth.org/servlet/Satellite?cid=1051054541187 & pagename=A_UWH_HOME%2FPage%2FUWH%2FHC%2FProvider%2FProviderDetails & providerID=AB43D3A0-B9EA-11D2-B9AB-00A0C9E603DD & c=Page I live in Rockford, IL about an hour from Madison.Perhaps by this email other members of the group can give info of where desensing can be done. Re: Re: how are things going , I didn't hear about it. Could you give me more info, as I am very interested in getting desensed, that is, if you know more about it. I finally talked my doc into doing it if my headaches don't go away this winter. I'm terribly sick of pain meds. I already stopped the tramadol last week and will stop the darvon after my raspberry season. Did you do the desense there? Or are you thinking about doing it? Madison is only 1.5 hours from my house. I live in sport (Fond du Lac county). do you live close to Madison. Tami Re: how are things going Sorry, but you hit a nerve with me so please don't take offenseI've read it cover to cover two years ago and I think it's a load of crap and worse than that it's designed to make people feel guilty.There are a few common sense things in the book (like we shouldn't have soda, I think -- yes, it's true, soda is just about as bad as drinking battery acid, but it doesn't take a doctor to tell us that!) but otherwise I think it's awful and just made me feel terrible and I cried for weeks thinking I did everything bad to myself, even though I'm a fairly healthy eater, have never smoked and I don't drink alcohol. My one vice right now is soda although I've never been a big soda drinker, and I

do plan to stop drinking it. I don't eat red meat, I eat fish and some chicken and turkey. Anyway I just don't like that book at all. Even the stuff that's true is pretty much impossible to do unless you move to another country. Lori>> Hi Lori,> Just checking to see how you are doing. I'm checking into a book written by " Trudeau" called natural cures.> Has anyone read it? You might want to read it, if you haven't.> I am currently trying something from the book but will update after I'm done, with the outcome.> Tami> Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.4/1055 - Release Date: 10/7/2007 10:24 AM No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.4/1055 - Release Date: 10/7/2007 10:24 AM

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Hi Jane

I live in Golden, and would like to know any doctors in the Denver area who knowledgable about Samters and desensitization.

Thanks,

Mark

Re: how are things going Sorry, but you hit a nerve with me so please don't take offenseI've read it cover to cover two years ago and I think it's a load of crap and worse than that it's designed to make people feel guilty.There are a few common sense things in the book (like we shouldn't have soda, I think -- yes, it's true, soda is just about as bad as drinking battery acid, but it doesn't take a doctor to tell us that!) but otherwise I think it's awful and just made me feel terrible and I cried for weeks thinking I did everything bad to myself, even though I'm a fairly healthy eater, have never smoked and I don't drink alcohol. My one vice right now is soda although I've never been a big soda drinker, and I do plan to stop drinking it. I don't eat red meat, I eat fish and some chicken and turkey. Anyway I just don't like that book at all. Even the stuff that's true is pretty much impossible to do unless you move to another country. Lori>> Hi Lori,> Just checking to see how you are doing. I'm checking into a book written by " Trudeau" called natural cures.> Has anyone read it? You might want to read it, if you haven't.> I am currently trying something from the book but will update after I'm done, with the outcome.> Tami>

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Hi Mark, First of all, my ENT is an incredible doctor and surgeon. His name is Dr. Pingree. After several surgeries with polyps growing back, he talked me into trying desensitization. He sent me to Dr. Mark Ebadi at Colorado Asthma and Allergy, 720-858-7600. His office is out on the old Lowry base. He also has an office for allergy shots at Denver West. He has done a lot of research into desensitization and I feel so lucky to have found a doctor so knowledgable right here in the Denver area. I would highly recommend him. Like I said, I am 4 months into this and have a few months to go on the high level of aspirin. I will begin to taper off in January. I am already showing signs of success! Keep me posted. Jane janesmarino@...Mark rider

<mwcoopy@...> wrote: Hi Jane I live in Golden, and would like to know any doctors in the Denver area who knowledgable about Samters and desensitization. Thanks, Mark Re: how are things going Sorry, but you hit a nerve with me so please don't take offenseI've read it cover to cover two years ago and I think it's a load of

crap and worse than that it's designed to make people feel guilty.There are a few common sense things in the book (like we shouldn't have soda, I think -- yes, it's true, soda is just about as bad as drinking battery acid, but it doesn't take a doctor to tell us that!) but otherwise I think it's awful and just made me feel terrible and I cried for weeks thinking I did everything bad to myself, even though I'm a fairly healthy eater, have never smoked and I don't drink alcohol. My one vice right now is soda although I've never been a big soda drinker, and I do plan to stop drinking it. I don't eat red meat, I eat fish and some chicken and turkey. Anyway I just don't like that book at all. Even the stuff that's true is pretty much impossible to do unless you move to another country. Lori>> Hi Lori,> Just checking to see how you are doing. I'm checking into a book written by " Trudeau" called natural cures.> Has anyone read it? You might want to read it, if you haven't.> I am currently trying something from the book but will update after I'm done, with the outcome.> Tami> Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! Don't let your dream ride pass you by. Make it a reality with Autos.

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Thanks Jane!!

Tom Schultz

From:

samters [mailto:samters ] On Behalf Of Jane

Marino

Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2007 5:14 PM

samters

Subject: RE: Re: how are things going

Tom,

Good luck to you on the desensitization. I am 4 months

into the process and doing great. Stick with it. You might not feel

your best during the first month of it but stick with it. I really think

you'll feel it will be worth it. I already do and I'm not even done with

the process yet.

Best wishes,

Jane from Denver

Tom Schultz <tschultz@...> wrote:

Tami,

I live in a

neighboring state, Minnesota, and just had my 4th sinus surgery last

week. My ENT doctor biopsied my polyps and was able to determine that

some antibiotics will help my sinus infections, while others will have no

effect at all.

I will be

starting the desensitizing process at the University of Minnesota hospital in

about a month, once I am completely healed from the surgery. I was told

that they are the only hospital in the state of Minnesota to do desensitizing.

I just started

irrigating with NeilMed within the last few month and highly recommend it to

all of you. I use 8 oz. of filtered water, warm it in the microwave for

30 seconds, and then irrigate. It really helps.

As far as the

asthma  is concerned, my doctor has me using a Flovent inhaler, and I

haven’t had an asthma attack in over 10 years. Before that I was having

2 or 3 major attacks a day and had to use an Albuterol inhaler or

a Nebulizer.

My best to all

of you. I’m glad I found this group after having this condition for 15

years. If we all keep sharing information, hopefully they will find a

cure for us.

Tom Schultz

From: samters [mailto:samters ]

On Behalf Of ChartacJS@...

Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2007 6:21 PM

samters

Subject: Re: Re: how are things going

Hi Tami,

Here is the link; http://www.uwhealth.org/servlet/Satellite?cid=1051054541187 & pagename=A_UWH_HOME%2FPage%2FUWH%2FHC%2FProvider%2FProviderDetails & providerID=AB43D3A0-B9EA-11D2-B9AB-00A0C9E603DD & c=Page

I live in Rockford, IL about an hour from Madison.

Perhaps by this email other members of the group can give info of where

desensing can be done.

Re: Re: how are things going

,

I didn't hear about it.

Could you give me more info, as I am very interested in getting desensed, that

is, if you know more about it. I finally talked my doc into doing it if my

headaches don't go away this winter. I'm terribly sick of pain

meds. I already stopped the tramadol last week and will stop the darvon

after my raspberry season. Did you do the desense there? Or are you

thinking about doing it?

Madison is only 1.5 hours from my house. I live in

sport (Fond du Lac county). do you live close to Madison.

Tami

Re: how are things going

Sorry, but you hit a nerve with me so please don't take offense

I've read it cover to cover two years ago and I think it's a load of

crap and worse than that it's designed to make people feel guilty.

There are a few common sense things in the book (like we shouldn't have

soda, I think -- yes, it's true, soda is just about as bad as drinking

battery acid, but it doesn't take a doctor to tell us that!) but

otherwise I think it's awful and just made me feel terrible and I cried

for weeks thinking I did everything bad to myself, even though I'm a

fairly healthy eater, have never smoked and I don't drink alcohol. My

one vice right now is soda although I've never been a big soda drinker,

and I do plan to stop drinking it. I don't eat red meat, I eat fish

and some chicken and turkey. Anyway I just don't like that book at

all. Even the stuff that's true is pretty much impossible to do unless

you move to another country.

Lori

>

> Hi Lori,

> Just checking to see how you are doing. I'm checking into a book

written by " Trudeau " called natural cures.

> Has anyone read it? You might want to read it, if you haven't.

> I am currently trying something from the book but will update after

I'm done, with the outcome.

> Tami

>

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