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Kiars fevers have become more manageable but the arthritis end is getting worse.

Where did you find was the easiest area to inject?

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http://www.enbrel.com/index.jsp?f=7

,

The link is to the enbrel site. The info below is from the site. Enbrel is a

wonderful drug that does have some major side effects especially with increasing

infection rate and increase in malignancy rates... Only you and the doctors can

decide if the benefits outweigh the side effects. Everything is on the internet

now from the medication companies... make sure you read the patient information

and the prescribing information. Enbrel also offers a service with trained

registered nurses who you can call and discuss issues with while on the

medication...

As for comparing to Prednisone there is NO comparrison... you can compare side

effects yes, but the medications are TOTALLY different. One masks disease and

works as an anti-inflammatore(prednisone) while the other Enbrel is a TNF med.

ENBREL is a genetically engineered soluble tumor necrosis factor (TNF)

receptor that supplements the body's regulatory process by inhibiting TNF.

ENBREL

a.. Mimics the inhibitory effects of naturally occurring TNF receptors

b.. Helps restore the body's natural balance between TNF and soluble TNF

receptors

c.. Has not been shown to induce neutralizing antibodies

d.. Does not lyse cells in vitro in the presence or absence of complement

Immunizations need to be brought up to date with Enbrel PRIOR to administering

the medication. Live vaccines should not be given when on Enbrel. If exposed to

Chicken Pox you should stop temporarily.

In general, the adverse events in pediatric patients were similar in frequency

and type as those seen in adult patients (see WARNINGS and other sections under

ADVERSE REACTIONS in the ENBREL Prescribing Information).

Severe adverse reactions reported in 69 JRA patients ages 4 to 17 years

included varicella (see also PRECAUTIONS, Immunizations in the ENBREL

Prescribing Information), gastroenteritis, depression/personality disorder,

cutaneous ulcer, esophagitis/gastritis, group A streptococcal septic shock, type

I diabetes mellitus, and soft-tissue and postoperative wound infection.1

Forty-three of 69 (62%) children with JRA experienced an infection while

receiving ENBREL during 3 months of study (part 1, open-label), and the

frequency and severity of infections were similar in 58 patients completing 12

months of open-label extension therapy. The types of infections reported in JRA

patients were generally mild and consistent with those commonly seen in

outpatient pediatric populations. Two JRA patients developed varicella infection

and signs and symptoms of aseptic meningitis, which resolved without sequelae.1

The following adverse events were reported more commonly in 69 JRA patients

receiving 3 months of ENBREL compared to the 349 adult RA patients in

placebo-controlled trials. These included headache (19% of patients, 1.7 events

per patient-year), nausea (9%, 1.0 event per patient-year), abdominal pain (19%,

0.74 event per patient-year), and vomiting (13%, 0.74 event per patient-year).1

a.. Become familiar with the support available through Enliven Services. When

they leave your office, patients beginning therapy with ENBREL are not alone. A

wide variety of free support is available through Enliven Services, including

access to registered nurses toll-free at 1-888-4ENBREL (1-888-436-2735), 8 am to

11 pm Eastern time, 7 days a week

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In a message dated 6/7/2007 7:03:32 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

frand2@... writes:

why it

was labeled parathyroid tumor spect

they call the scan whatever they are scanning for....in your case, a

parathyroid tumor. I also had this scan for PT once upon a time during process

of

elimination (had elevated calcium too). I had one saliva gland that took up ALL

the Tc-99 clear through the delayed imaging. Only my heart and saliva gland

lit up.

What are your thyroid levels if you have nodules on your thyroid? My nodule

on my thyroid was cancer.

I would try to find a different doctor. I went through 3 endos, 2 primaries,

2 nephrologists, and several radiologists who all said my adrenal adenoma

was nothing since it had not grown in 3 years. I kept getting worse with

malignant hypertension numerous times, a heart attack, and major pain all over.

I

then fired my primary doctor, took in a butt-load of info highlighted to a new

primary regarding Conn's. He didn't think so either but the radiologist

suggested the AVS and walla! All the time they all were suspecting a pheo and

blocked me a week for a pheo prior to surgery. It worked and my bp was stable

throughout the surgery. It was a classic Conn's adenoma.

You are being misinformed by your doctor about carcinoid and the octreoscan.

Arm up with the best info on the topic from carcinoid.org. Print it out and

highlight pertinent info. There are other specialists but you may have to go

somewhere else. You can also email Doc Woltering or even call him. He

welcomes all calls, emails, etc. His email address, etc are:

Eugene A. Woltering MD FACS

The D. Rives Professor of Surgery and Neurosciences

Chief, Sections of Surgical Oncology and Endocrine Surgery

Director of Surgical Research

LSUHSC Department of Surgery

New Orleans LA 70112

504-884-3555-cell

Clinic address:

200 West Esplanade Ave, Suite 200

Kenner La 70065

504-464-8500- clinic appointments

504-464-8525-clinic fax

1-866-91-ZEBRA (1-866-919-3272)

_EWolte@..._ (mailto:EWolte@...)

I can sure sympathize with you regarding bad doctors (all in all, I fired

several along with radiologists). You know when something is wrong. I was told

by a doctor friend that in med school they spent 20 minutes on " diseases

you'll never see " i.e. carcinoid, pheos, etc. Doctors should know " If it's not

a

horse, then look for a zebra " . Unfortunately, they don't. I couldn't tell you

how many doctors I talked to who had never heard of Conn's but had heard of

's. We have to educate them and arm up with the proof since to many of

them, we are peons who know nothing. If someone is not willing to work with

you (they work for you), then move on.

Debi

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I assure you that every MD has heard of Conn's. Almost always on one of the

qualifiying exams. Unless they did not go to school that day which happens

often unfortunatley.

So any Dr who says they have never heard of Conn's needs to complain to their

Medical School and training program for inadequate training on how to take

care of the most common disease the will deal with not matter what they

practice-high blood pressure.

National Guidelines JNCs have been mailed to every Dr in practice for over 25

years. They all discuss Conn's. You should complain to the state medical

board.

May your pressure be low!

Clarence E. Grim, BS, MS, MD

Senior Consultant to Shared Care Research and Consulting, Inc.

(sharedcareinc.com)

Clinical Professor of Internal Medicine and Epidemiology Med. Col. WI

Clinical Professor of Nursing, Univ. of WI, Milwaukee

Specializing in Difficult to Control High Blood Pressure

and the Physiology and History of Survival During

Hard Times and Heart Disease today.

**************************************

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Debi,

I just looked at the carcinoid.org's list of local physicians and am

happy to say that my current endo is listed there. I only saw him

once and don't think I even mentioned the sweating/flushing. He did

have all my tests from UVA that showed 5-hiaa and cg A elevated. I

am not happy about the snap decision he made that the pain in my feet

is caused by diabetic neuropathy. I read on some web site that

calcitonin is one thing that they test and that it raises calcium/PTH

hormone levels. I don't think mine has ever been checked. I don't

think his office is open on Fri so will call for an appointment on

Mon and take my latest test results from UVA. I am waiting to see if

the surgeon wants to do anything about my thyroid. My primary is

going to have to go, I decided that a few months ago. He keeps

telling me to go to the Mayo clinic and I told him it was 1000 miles

away. His reply was " So? " I wanted a refill on lorazapam which I

take at night to help me sleep. He said, " let's try 3 " and wrote the

RX for 3 x day. I know I am a bitchy patient but if his idea of

treating me is to drug me, he isn't the doc for me. He doesn't even

check my heart even though he knows my bp has been out of control for

8 years. He only orders blood work when I ask him to and last year,

when I asked him to check my triglycerides he asked if I wanted blood

drawn now or did I want to fast first. Of course I didn't want to

get up early and go back so I decided to do it then. When I got the

results, they were about the same as before and I thought how do I

know if it is improving since all previous tests were done when I was

fasting.

Fran

>

>

> In a message dated 6/7/2007 7:03:32 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

> frand2@... writes:

>

> why it

> was labeled parathyroid tumor spect

>

>

> they call the scan whatever they are scanning for....in your case,

a

> parathyroid tumor. I also had this scan for PT once upon a time

during process of

> elimination (had elevated calcium too). I had one saliva gland that

took up ALL

> the Tc-99 clear through the delayed imaging. Only my heart and

saliva gland

> lit up.

>

> What are your thyroid levels if you have nodules on your thyroid?

My nodule

> on my thyroid was cancer.

>

> I would try to find a different doctor. I went through 3 endos, 2

primaries,

> 2 nephrologists, and several radiologists who all said my adrenal

adenoma

> was nothing since it had not grown in 3 years. I kept getting

worse with

> malignant hypertension numerous times, a heart attack, and major

pain all over. I

> then fired my primary doctor, took in a butt-load of info

highlighted to a new

> primary regarding Conn's. He didn't think so either but the

radiologist

> suggested the AVS and walla! All the time they all were

suspecting a pheo and

> blocked me a week for a pheo prior to surgery. It worked and my

bp was stable

> throughout the surgery. It was a classic Conn's adenoma.

>

> You are being misinformed by your doctor about carcinoid and the

octreoscan.

> Arm up with the best info on the topic from carcinoid.org. Print

it out and

> highlight pertinent info. There are other specialists but you may

have to go

> somewhere else. You can also email Doc Woltering or even call him.

He

> welcomes all calls, emails, etc. His email address, etc are:

>

> Eugene A. Woltering MD FACS

> The D. Rives Professor of Surgery and Neurosciences

> Chief, Sections of Surgical Oncology and Endocrine Surgery

> Director of Surgical Research

> LSUHSC Department of Surgery

> New Orleans LA 70112

> 504-884-3555-cell

> Clinic address:

> 200 West Esplanade Ave, Suite 200

> Kenner La 70065

> 504-464-8500- clinic appointments

> 504-464-8525-clinic fax

> 1-866-91-ZEBRA (1-866-919-3272)

> _EWolte@..._ (mailto:EWolte@...)

>

> I can sure sympathize with you regarding bad doctors (all in all, I

fired

> several along with radiologists). You know when something is wrong.

I was told

> by a doctor friend that in med school they spent 20 minutes

on " diseases

> you'll never see " i.e. carcinoid, pheos, etc. Doctors should

know " If it's not a

> horse, then look for a zebra " . Unfortunately, they don't. I

couldn't tell you

> how many doctors I talked to who had never heard of Conn's but had

heard of

> 's. We have to educate them and arm up with the proof since

to many of

> them, we are peons who know nothing. If someone is not willing to

work with

> you (they work for you), then move on.

>

> Debi

>

>

>

> ************************************** See what's free at

http://www.aol.com.

>

>

>

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Debi,

I just looked at the carcinoid.org's list of local physicians and am

happy to say that my current endo is listed there. I only saw him

once and don't think I even mentioned the sweating/flushing. He did

have all my tests from UVA that showed 5-hiaa and cg A elevated. I

am not happy about the snap decision he made that the pain in my feet

is caused by diabetic neuropathy. I read on some web site that

calcitonin is one thing that they test and that it raises calcium/PTH

hormone levels. I don't think mine has ever been checked. I don't

think his office is open on Fri so will call for an appointment on

Mon and take my latest test results from UVA. I am waiting to see if

the surgeon wants to do anything about my thyroid. My primary is

going to have to go, I decided that a few months ago. He keeps

telling me to go to the Mayo clinic and I told him it was 1000 miles

away. His reply was " So? " I wanted a refill on lorazapam which I

take at night to help me sleep. He said, " let's try 3 " and wrote the

RX for 3 x day. I know I am a bitchy patient but if his idea of

treating me is to drug me, he isn't the doc for me. He doesn't even

check my heart even though he knows my bp has been out of control for

8 years. He only orders blood work when I ask him to and last year,

when I asked him to check my triglycerides he asked if I wanted blood

drawn now or did I want to fast first. Of course I didn't want to

get up early and go back so I decided to do it then. When I got the

results, they were about the same as before and I thought how do I

know if it is improving since all previous tests were done when I was

fasting.

Fran

>

>

> In a message dated 6/7/2007 7:03:32 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

> frand2@... writes:

>

> why it

> was labeled parathyroid tumor spect

>

>

> they call the scan whatever they are scanning for....in your case,

a

> parathyroid tumor. I also had this scan for PT once upon a time

during process of

> elimination (had elevated calcium too). I had one saliva gland that

took up ALL

> the Tc-99 clear through the delayed imaging. Only my heart and

saliva gland

> lit up.

>

> What are your thyroid levels if you have nodules on your thyroid?

My nodule

> on my thyroid was cancer.

>

> I would try to find a different doctor. I went through 3 endos, 2

primaries,

> 2 nephrologists, and several radiologists who all said my adrenal

adenoma

> was nothing since it had not grown in 3 years. I kept getting

worse with

> malignant hypertension numerous times, a heart attack, and major

pain all over. I

> then fired my primary doctor, took in a butt-load of info

highlighted to a new

> primary regarding Conn's. He didn't think so either but the

radiologist

> suggested the AVS and walla! All the time they all were

suspecting a pheo and

> blocked me a week for a pheo prior to surgery. It worked and my

bp was stable

> throughout the surgery. It was a classic Conn's adenoma.

>

> You are being misinformed by your doctor about carcinoid and the

octreoscan.

> Arm up with the best info on the topic from carcinoid.org. Print

it out and

> highlight pertinent info. There are other specialists but you may

have to go

> somewhere else. You can also email Doc Woltering or even call him.

He

> welcomes all calls, emails, etc. His email address, etc are:

>

> Eugene A. Woltering MD FACS

> The D. Rives Professor of Surgery and Neurosciences

> Chief, Sections of Surgical Oncology and Endocrine Surgery

> Director of Surgical Research

> LSUHSC Department of Surgery

> New Orleans LA 70112

> 504-884-3555-cell

> Clinic address:

> 200 West Esplanade Ave, Suite 200

> Kenner La 70065

> 504-464-8500- clinic appointments

> 504-464-8525-clinic fax

> 1-866-91-ZEBRA (1-866-919-3272)

> _EWolte@..._ (mailto:EWolte@...)

>

> I can sure sympathize with you regarding bad doctors (all in all, I

fired

> several along with radiologists). You know when something is wrong.

I was told

> by a doctor friend that in med school they spent 20 minutes

on " diseases

> you'll never see " i.e. carcinoid, pheos, etc. Doctors should

know " If it's not a

> horse, then look for a zebra " . Unfortunately, they don't. I

couldn't tell you

> how many doctors I talked to who had never heard of Conn's but had

heard of

> 's. We have to educate them and arm up with the proof since

to many of

> them, we are peons who know nothing. If someone is not willing to

work with

> you (they work for you), then move on.

>

> Debi

>

>

>

> ************************************** See what's free at

http://www.aol.com.

>

>

>

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Debi,

I forgot to answer your question about my thyroid levels. They

haven't been checked since last July. I can't find them right now

but they were around 2 I think, within normal limits as recognized by

endos. I thought they would check them at UVA after seeing the

sonogram results but they didn't. I planned to have my endo check

them after PTH surgery but now it appears the PTH isn't the problem.

I developed a goiter when I was 10 and family doc said to use iodized

salt. I don't think he ever took any blood tests. When I first saw

my previous PCP for high BP, I mentioned that I was taking kelp to

try to get rid of the goiter. He asked if I wanted to try thyroid

hormone insteaed and I said yes. Lab results I found from a weight

loss clinic (which I never did join) showed my TSH level at 2

something. That was when I was taking kelp instead of Syntroid.

When my BP went crazy about 10 years later (May, 2000) I asked my PCP

what my thyroid was doing and he looked at my chart and said he

didn't check it last year. He didn't check it then either. A few

days later I asked to be admitted to the hospital for my bp. While

there they ran tests and TSH was 8+. That is when I first started

seeing endos. My goiter went away in Dec 02 and when my new PCP

checked the TSH level it was low, I think about .32 but he wasn't

concerned about it. I eventually left him too. I don't think my

thyroid is causing all my problems unless there could be a carcinoid

in there. I have had the sweating for 8 years now and most of that

time my TSH was low or normal.

Fran

>

>

> In a message dated 6/7/2007 7:03:32 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

> frand2@... writes:

>

> why it

> was labeled parathyroid tumor spect

>

>

> they call the scan whatever they are scanning for....in your case,

a

> parathyroid tumor. I also had this scan for PT once upon a time

during process of

> elimination (had elevated calcium too). I had one saliva gland that

took up ALL

> the Tc-99 clear through the delayed imaging. Only my heart and

saliva gland

> lit up.

>

> What are your thyroid levels if you have nodules on your thyroid?

My nodule

> on my thyroid was cancer.

>

> I would try to find a different doctor. I went through 3 endos, 2

primaries,

> 2 nephrologists, and several radiologists who all said my adrenal

adenoma

> was nothing since it had not grown in 3 years. I kept getting

worse with

> malignant hypertension numerous times, a heart attack, and major

pain all over. I

> then fired my primary doctor, took in a butt-load of info

highlighted to a new

> primary regarding Conn's. He didn't think so either but the

radiologist

> suggested the AVS and walla! All the time they all were

suspecting a pheo and

> blocked me a week for a pheo prior to surgery. It worked and my

bp was stable

> throughout the surgery. It was a classic Conn's adenoma.

>

> You are being misinformed by your doctor about carcinoid and the

octreoscan.

> Arm up with the best info on the topic from carcinoid.org. Print

it out and

> highlight pertinent info. There are other specialists but you may

have to go

> somewhere else. You can also email Doc Woltering or even call him.

He

> welcomes all calls, emails, etc. His email address, etc are:

>

> Eugene A. Woltering MD FACS

> The D. Rives Professor of Surgery and Neurosciences

> Chief, Sections of Surgical Oncology and Endocrine Surgery

> Director of Surgical Research

> LSUHSC Department of Surgery

> New Orleans LA 70112

> 504-884-3555-cell

> Clinic address:

> 200 West Esplanade Ave, Suite 200

> Kenner La 70065

> 504-464-8500- clinic appointments

> 504-464-8525-clinic fax

> 1-866-91-ZEBRA (1-866-919-3272)

> _EWolte@..._ (mailto:EWolte@...)

>

> I can sure sympathize with you regarding bad doctors (all in all, I

fired

> several along with radiologists). You know when something is wrong.

I was told

> by a doctor friend that in med school they spent 20 minutes

on " diseases

> you'll never see " i.e. carcinoid, pheos, etc. Doctors should

know " If it's not a

> horse, then look for a zebra " . Unfortunately, they don't. I

couldn't tell you

> how many doctors I talked to who had never heard of Conn's but had

heard of

> 's. We have to educate them and arm up with the proof since

to many of

> them, we are peons who know nothing. If someone is not willing to

work with

> you (they work for you), then move on.

>

> Debi

>

>

>

> ************************************** See what's free at

http://www.aol.com.

>

>

>

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Have you tried estrogen? Always worth a trial.

In a message dated 6/8/07 10:20:08 AM, frand2@... writes:

>

> Debi,

> I forgot to answer your question about my thyroid levels. They

> haven't been checked since last July. I can't find them right now

> but they were around 2 I think, within normal limits as recognized by

> endos. I thought they would check them at UVA after seeing the

> sonogram results but they didn't. I planned to have my endo check

> them after PTH surgery but now it appears the PTH isn't the problem.

> I developed a goiter when I was 10 and family doc said to use iodized

> salt. I don't think he ever took any blood tests. When I first saw

> my previous PCP for high BP, I mentioned that I was taking kelp to

> try to get rid of the goiter. He asked if I wanted to try thyroid

> hormone insteaed and I said yes. Lab results I found from a weight

> loss clinic (which I never did join) showed my TSH level at 2

> something. That was when I was taking kelp instead of Syntroid.

>

Kelp is very high in I and may interfer with thryoid tests. Trust you told

your Drs you were taking this.

> When my BP went crazy about 10 years later (May, 2000) I asked my PCP

> what my thyroid was doing and he looked at my chart and said he

> didn't check it last year. He didn't check it then either. A few

> days later I asked to be admitted to the hospital for my bp. While

> there they ran tests and TSH was 8+. That is when I first started

> seeing endos. My goiter went away in Dec 02 and when my new PCP

> checked the TSH level it was low, I think about .32 but he wasn't

> concerned about it. I eventually left him too. I don't think my

> thyroid is causing all my problems unless there could be a carcinoid

> in there. I have had the sweating for 8 years now and most of that

> time my TSH was low or normal.

>

> Fran

>

>

> >

> >

> > In a message dated 6/7/2007 7:03:32 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

> > frand2@... writes:

> >

> > why it

> > was labeled parathyroid tumor spect

> >

> >

> > they call the scan whatever they are scanning for....in your case,

> a

> > parathyroid tumor. I also had this scan for PT once upon a time

> during process of

> > elimination (had elevated calcium too). I had one saliva gland that

> took up ALL

> > the Tc-99 clear through the delayed imaging. Only my heart and

> saliva gland

> > lit up.

> >

> > What are your thyroid levels if you have nodules on your thyroid?

> My nodule

> > on my thyroid was cancer.

> >

> > I would try to find a different doctor. I went through 3 endos, 2

> primaries,

> > 2 nephrologists, and several radiologists who all said my adrenal

> adenoma

> > was nothing since it had not grown in 3 years. I kept getting

> worse with

> > malignant hypertension numerous times, a heart attack, and major

> pain all over. I

> > then fired my primary doctor, took in a butt-load of info

> highlighted to a new

> > primary regarding Conn's. He didn't think so either but the

> radiologist

> > suggested the AVS and walla! All the time they all were

> suspecting a pheo and

> > blocked me a week for a pheo prior to surgery. It worked and my

> bp was stable

> > throughout the surgery. It was a classic Conn's adenoma.

> >

> > You are being misinformed by your doctor about carcinoid and the

> octreoscan.

> > Arm up with the best info on the topic from carcinoid.org. Print

> it out and

> > highlight pertinent info. There are other specialists but you may

> have to go

> > somewhere else. You can also email Doc Woltering or even call him.

> He

> > welcomes all calls, emails, etc. His email address, etc are:

> >

> > Eugene A. Woltering MD FACS

> > The D. Rives Professor of Surgery and Neurosciences

> > Chief, Sections of Surgical Oncology and Endocrine Surgery

> > Director of Surgical Research

> > LSUHSC Department of Surgery

> > New Orleans LA 70112

> > 504-884-3555- 504

> > Clinic address:

> > 200 West Esplanade Ave, Suite 200

> > Kenner La 70065

> > 504-464-8500- clinic appointments

> > 504-464-8525- 504-464-8

> > 1-866-91-ZEBRA (1-866-919-3272)

> > _EWolte@..._ (mailto:EWolte@ _EWo

> >

> > I can sure sympathize with you regarding bad doctors (all in all, I

> fired

> > several along with radiologists) several along with radiologists)<wb

> I was told

> > by a doctor friend that in med school they spent 20 minutes

> on " diseases

> > you'll never see " i.e. carcinoid, pheos, etc. Doctors should

> know " If it's not a

> > horse, then look for a zebra " . Unfortunately, they don't. I

> couldn't tell you

> > how many doctors I talked to who had never heard of Conn's but had

> heard of

> > 's. We have to educate them and arm up with the proof since

> to many of

> > them, we are peons who know nothing. If someone is not willing to

> work with

> > you (they work for you), then move on.

> >

> > Debi

> >

> >

> >

> > ************ ******** ******** ************<wbr>*********

> http://www.aol.http

> >

> >

> >

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In a message dated 6/8/07 9:08:45 AM, frand2@... writes:

> Of course I didn't want to

> get up early and go back so I decided to do it then. When I got the

> results, they were about the same as before and I thought how do I

> know if it is improving since all previous tests were done when I was

> fasting.

>

a non fasting level is worthless but that was your choice.

May your pressure be low!

Clarence E. Grim, BS, MS, MD

Senior Consultant to Shared Care Research and Consulting, Inc.

(sharedcareinc.com)

Clinical Professor of Internal Medicine and Epidemiology Med. Col. WI

Clinical Professor of Nursing, Univ. of WI, Milwaukee

Specializing in Difficult to Control High Blood Pressure

and the Physiology and History of Survival During

Hard Times and Heart Disease today.

**************************************

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Dr. Grim,

Of course I have tried estrogen. I started having the real hot

flashes and was put on .625 mg and they went away. A couple of years

later, the other " hot flashes " started and I went up 1.25 mg. I

think it helped for a couple of months, but I am not sure. I

realized after a year that they were not normal hot flashes.

Gynecologists say if estrogen doesn't help, it isn't menopause. I

had one doc give me Zoloft and I think it did help but about an hour

after I took it I had a terrible burning sensation in my hands and

feet so I never took it again. My body is all screwed up, I can't

tolerate pills and no it isn't the K. My K has been as high as 4.9

and I still had burning when I took certain pills to include

vitamins. I believe it is something used for fillers but don't know

what. Many endocrinologists have also told me it isn't menopause.

Fran

> > >

> > >

> > > In a message dated 6/7/2007 7:03:32 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,

> > > frand2@ writes:

> > >

> > > why it

> > > was labeled parathyroid tumor spect

> > >

> > >

> > > they call the scan whatever they are scanning for....in your

case,

> > a

> > > parathyroid tumor. I also had this scan for PT once upon a time

> > during process of

> > > elimination (had elevated calcium too). I had one saliva gland

that

> > took up ALL

> > > the Tc-99 clear through the delayed imaging. Only my heart and

> > saliva gland

> > > lit up.

> > >

> > > What are your thyroid levels if you have nodules on your

thyroid?

> > My nodule

> > > on my thyroid was cancer.

> > >

> > > I would try to find a different doctor. I went through 3 endos,

2

> > primaries,

> > > 2 nephrologists, and several radiologists who all said my

adrenal

> > adenoma

> > > was nothing since it had not grown in 3 years. I kept getting

> > worse with

> > > malignant hypertension numerous times, a heart attack, and major

> > pain all over. I

> > > then fired my primary doctor, took in a butt-load of info

> > highlighted to a new

> > > primary regarding Conn's. He didn't think so either but the

> > radiologist

> > > suggested the AVS and walla! All the time they all were

> > suspecting a pheo and

> > > blocked me a week for a pheo prior to surgery. It worked and my

> > bp was stable

> > > throughout the surgery. It was a classic Conn's adenoma.

> > >

> > > You are being misinformed by your doctor about carcinoid and the

> > octreoscan.

> > > Arm up with the best info on the topic from carcinoid.org. Print

> > it out and

> > > highlight pertinent info. There are other specialists but you

may

> > have to go

> > > somewhere else. You can also email Doc Woltering or even call

him.

> > He

> > > welcomes all calls, emails, etc. His email address, etc are:

> > >

> > > Eugene A. Woltering MD FACS

> > > The D. Rives Professor of Surgery and Neurosciences

> > > Chief, Sections of Surgical Oncology and Endocrine Surgery

> > > Director of Surgical Research

> > > LSUHSC Department of Surgery

> > > New Orleans LA 70112

> > > 504-884-3555- 504

> > > Clinic address:

> > > 200 West Esplanade Ave, Suite 200

> > > Kenner La 70065

> > > 504-464-8500- clinic appointments

> > > 504-464-8525- 504-464-8

> > > 1-866-91-ZEBRA (1-866-919-3272)

> > > _EWolte@_ (mailto:EWolte@ _EWo

> > >

> > > I can sure sympathize with you regarding bad doctors (all in

all, I

> > fired

> > > several along with radiologists) several along with

radiologists)<wb

> > I was told

> > > by a doctor friend that in med school they spent 20 minutes

> > on " diseases

> > > you'll never see " i.e. carcinoid, pheos, etc. Doctors should

> > know " If it's not a

> > > horse, then look for a zebra " . Unfortunately, they don't. I

> > couldn't tell you

> > > how many doctors I talked to who had never heard of Conn's but

had

> > heard of

> > > 's. We have to educate them and arm up with the proof

since

> > to many of

> > > them, we are peons who know nothing. If someone is not willing

to

> > work with

> > > you (they work for you), then move on.

> > >

> > > Debi

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ************ ******** ******** ************<wbr>*********

> > http://www.aol.http

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Fran,

I lost a lot of the symptoms you mention when my adrenal with nodule was

removed. I suffered for many years. My flushing went from a wet one to a dry one

with the dry one being carcinoid related. That is the difference in a " flush "

of carcinoid vs. a flush of other endocrine issues (i.e. pheos). Noids tend

to get a dry very hot flushing triggered by various reasons. Noids: 2/3 are

known to have low bp with about 1/3 having high bp w/spikes with dry flushing.

Pheos: high bp with extreme spikes and wet flushing. With the Conn's, I had

night sweats, impossible to control bp with malignant HT several times and

spikes up and down all day long from minute to minute (I was pushing on the

nodule depending on the my position).

Debi

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In a message dated 6/11/07 5:41:40 PM, moonium@... writes:

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> Fran,

>

> I lost a lot of the symptoms you mention when my adrenal with nodule was

> removed. I suffered for many years. My flushing went from a wet one to a dry

> one

> with the dry one being carcinoid related. That is the difference in a

> " flush "

> of carcinoid vs. a flush of other endocrine issues (i.e. pheos). Noids tend

> to get a dry very hot flushing triggered by various reasons. Noids: 2/3 are

> known to have low bp with about 1/3 having high bp w/spikes with dry

> flushing.

> Pheos: high bp with extreme spikes and wet flushing. With the Conn's, I had

> night sweats, impossible to control bp with malignant HT several times and

> spikes up and down all day long from minute to minute (I was pushing on the

> nodule depending on the my position).

>

The BP effects of aldo take several hours to manifest and it is very unlikely

that pushing on the nodule (unless it was a pheo) did not cause changes in

BP. Much more likely baroreceptor instability due to aldo and low K were the

cause.

Perhaps related to the meds you were on for BP that do not work in PA.

>

> Debi

>

>

>

May your pressure be low!

Clarence E. Grim, BS, MS, MD

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(sharedcareinc.com)

Clinical Professor of Internal Medicine and Epidemiology Med. Col. WI

Clinical Professor of Nursing, Univ. of WI, Milwaukee

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and the Physiology and History of Survival During

Hard Times and Heart Disease today.

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Do you have the pathology report on your adrenal. It will be useful to have

in your files and in our own files.

In a message dated 6/11/07 5:41:40 PM, moonium@... writes:

>

> Fran,

>

> I lost a lot of the symptoms you mention when my adrenal with nodule was

> removed. I suffered for many years. My flushing went from a wet one to a dry

> one

> with the dry one being carcinoid related. That is the difference in a

> " flush "

> of carcinoid vs. a flush of other endocrine issues (i.e. pheos). Noids tend

> to get a dry very hot flushing triggered by various reasons. Noids: 2/3 are

> known to have low bp with about 1/3 having high bp w/spikes with dry

> flushing.

> Pheos: high bp with extreme spikes and wet flushing. With the Conn's, I had

> night sweats, impossible to control bp with malignant HT several times and

> spikes up and down all day long from minute to minute (I was pushing on the

> nodule depending on the my position).

>

> Debi

>

> ************ ******** ******** ************<wbr>*********http://www.aol.http

>

>

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In a message dated 6/11/07 11:23:03 AM, frand2@... writes:

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> Dr. Grim,

> Of course I have tried estrogen. I started having the real hot

> flashes and was put on .625 mg and they went away. A couple of years

> later, the other " hot flashes " started and I went up 1.25 mg. I

> think it helped for a couple of months, but I am not sure. I

> realized after a year that they were not normal hot flashes.

> Gynecologists say if estrogen doesn't help, it isn't menopause. I

> had one doc give me Zoloft and I think it did help but about an hour

> after I took it I had a terrible burning sensation in my hands and

> feet so I never took it again. My body is all screwed up, I can't

> tolerate pills and no it isn't the K. My K has been as high as 4.9

> and I still had burning when I took certain pills to include

> vitamins. I believe it is something used for fillers but don't know

> what. Many endocrinologists have also told me it isn't menopause.

>

> Fran

>

>

>

Check to see if any of your pills contain niacin which can cause flushing.

May your pressure be low!

Clarence E. Grim, BS, MS, MD

Senior Consultant to Shared Care Research and Consulting, Inc.

(sharedcareinc.com)

Clinical Professor of Internal Medicine and Epidemiology Med. Col. WI

Clinical Professor of Nursing, Univ. of WI, Milwaukee

Specializing in Difficult to Control High Blood Pressure

and the Physiology and History of Survival During

Hard Times and Heart Disease today.

**************************************

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Now that I know better, I'll never let them do it without sedation again. I'm glad this group let me know. Even without sedation, they insisted that I have someone to drive me home. I also was told to lie on my back for several hours. Joan

Just getting caught up reading some of the posts and am just blown away by people saying that have had their epidural and/or nerve blocks done without any sedation.I'm just mind boggled by that, as every place I have ever heard of in Mass. always uses sedation for any kind of spinal injection and of course they always use floroscopy. The only time sedation isn't used is if the patient really doesn't want it.The reason that I have been told that pain management doctors prefer to use sedation is simple.It is a sure fire way to be sure that the patient does not move during the procedure and cause the needle to move as the injection is being given and end up being administered into the wrong area. that could create serious long term complications.Quick acting and quick recovery sedation meds are used and given by IV. either Versed, Propofol or a combination of both of those meds are used. They take affect in about 40 seconds or less and the affects of the sedation last very briefly. Usually less than 20 minutes.I have had 4 transforaminal epidural injections, and 3 nerve blocks, all done under sedation. Wheeled into the room, move on to the table on my stomach, sedation injected and out a like a light bulb. 15 minutes or so later, I'm sitting up in recovery, drinking water, having toast and coffee. IV is pulled, vitals all checked, walk around the room, get dressed and go home.Never felt a thing, and of course I never moved because I was safely sedated. Upon returning home, I have a light lunch, something like a turkey sandwich and some coffee and then go to bed; not because I'm tired, but because it's important to lie down for several hours after having any kind of spinal injection so that you don't develop a spinal headache.The only hitch to having a spinal injection with sedation, is that you can not drive yourself home afterwards as your reaction time can be altered some, and you must be NPO for a certain number of hours prior to the sedation.I would suggest to those that are planning on having spinal injections to find someone that does them using sedation and of course floroscopy. There is no reason to be denied the use of sedation and suffer pain to have them done.Fran

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