Guest guest Posted March 18, 2008 Report Share Posted March 18, 2008 I buy bottles of BreatheEase XL which is a premade saline and baking soda with no preservatives and it is very gentle. I love it. Here is a link to it: http://www.natlallergy.com/prod/1348/breathe-ease-xl-with-xylitol-nasal-irrigati\ on- powder.html > > The NeilMed packets are not expensive if you are only using 1-2 a day. > I sometimes use them if I go on a short trip simply for the convenience. > But I need to use 8/day because I irrigate 2x/day with 1000mL of water > each time (in other words, a full WaterPik reservoir full each time). > If I don't use that much solution, I don't get all the gunk out and I am > stuffy. I also find I prefer how my homemade solution feels to the > packets. I use ~2 teaspoons Kosher salt + a ½ teaspoon baking soda in > that 1000mL warm tap water. > > > > I feel like the squeeze bottle pushes stuff in places I don't want it to > go. I can't explain it, but my ears are clearer after using the > WaterPik than the squeeze bottle. I have to be extra careful blowing my > nose or my ears " squeak " after using the bottle but I don't have this > problem when I use the WaterPik. I asked my ENT about it once and he > just gave me a funny look, " You're ears `squeak?' " and he shook his head > and had no explanation. He does that a lot though when he sees me. :-) > > > > K. > > > > Re: irrigation > > > > I'm sorry, but I don't really understand what you are talking about. > I don't use the NeilMed bottle. I use a NetiPot. > > I don't know what you are talking about regarding scissors, funnels > and sterile water. I also don't know what crusts are exactly -- I > mean, I think I do, but I don't really know where you get them that > they would need to be removed and that some other method could get > rid of them. > > I don't think the NeilMed is that expensive, actually. But sure, you > can make your own. Some people do. I find the particular mix to > work very well for me. I don't like other brands, I have tried > othres and I like the NeilMed the best. I find another, such as > SinuRinse, I think it's called, too irritating and burning. The > NeilMed is more soothing. > > I don't know why you would need more than one packet. I only use one > packet at a time. It's about 10 bucks for 100 packets, so if I use 1- > 2 a day, it lasts about two months. Five bucks a month doesn't seem > very expensive to me. > > I don't know what you mean by the sachet not being easy to fill, > because quiet honestly I guess I don't know what a sachet is. > > Like I said, I use a NetiPot. It's very easy to fill. I use tap > water. > > Lori > > > Hello Again Truelori > > My ENT asked me to trial the Neilmed and I have come up with the > > (Pretty Lame,)following ; > > oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo > > NeilMed SinuRinse > > > > · Low-pressure squeeze bottle good for clearing pollutants from > > nasal passages. > > · Squeeze bottle flow not sustained enough for removing crusts. > > · Squeeze bottle easy to use. > > · Bottle not easy to fill. > > · Sachet mix is not complex. > > · Sachet mix is a fairly expensive solution. > > · Sachet convenient if only one is needed. > > · Sachet is not so easy to fill. > > > > Conclusion; > > Basic system which operates well for clearing pollutants, but given > > the need for sterile water, scissors, funnels, etc. is > unnecessarily > > complex in use. > > oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo > > > > Does anyone agree/disagree, or have anything to add? > > > > Regards > > B > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 Lori I appreciate that if you do not use the NeilMed bottle, you would not understand the need for funnels. Scissors are not really neccessary, as it is possible to tear the " sachet " open, (although this makes the pouring of the mixture into the narrow neck of the bottle, more difficult.) You are lucky that you cannot imagine what crusts are, and how difficult it is to remove something the size of a walnut, through your nostril, or throat. ( Hence the repeat procedure.) Relative to mixing ones self, NeilMed is expensive. I shall clarify that in my " report " NeilMed recommend sterile water and I always use boiled tap water. (Same with any irrigation method) > > I'm sorry, but I don't really understand what you are talking about. > I don't use the NeilMed bottle. I use a NetiPot. > > I don't know what you are talking about regarding scissors, funnels > and sterile water. I also don't know what crusts are exactly -- I > mean, I think I do, but I don't really know where you get them that > they would need to be removed and that some other method could get > rid of them. > > I don't think the NeilMed is that expensive, actually. But sure, you > can make your own. Some people do. I find the particular mix to > work very well for me. I don't like other brands, I have tried > othres and I like the NeilMed the best. I find another, such as > SinuRinse, I think it's called, too irritating and burning. The > NeilMed is more soothing. > > I don't know why you would need more than one packet. I only use one > packet at a time. It's about 10 bucks for 100 packets, so if I use 1- > 2 a day, it lasts about two months. Five bucks a month doesn't seem > very expensive to me. > > I don't know what you mean by the sachet not being easy to fill, > because quiet honestly I guess I don't know what a sachet is. > > Like I said, I use a NetiPot. It's very easy to fill. I use tap > water. > > Lori > > > > > Hello Again Truelori > > My ENT asked me to trial the Neilmed and I have come up with the > > (Pretty Lame,)following ; > > oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo > > NeilMed SinuRinse > > > > · Low-pressure squeeze bottle good for clearing pollutants from > > nasal passages. > > · Squeeze bottle flow not sustained enough for removing crusts. > > · Squeeze bottle easy to use. > > · Bottle not easy to fill. > > · Sachet mix is not complex. > > · Sachet mix is a fairly expensive solution. > > · Sachet convenient if only one is needed. > > · Sachet is not so easy to fill. > > > > Conclusion; > > Basic system which operates well for clearing pollutants, but given > > the need for sterile water, scissors, funnels, etc. is > unnecessarily > > complex in use. > > oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo > > > > Does anyone agree/disagree, or have anything to add? > > > > Regards > > B > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 , I use this system too, and get the same crusty "things" out too, so I know where you are coming from! I do this at least twice a day, but only get the crusties about once a week, or when I'm on steroids which open up my sinuses allowing everything (or almost) to come out. Horrid stuff, but I feel great once it's all out...then it all comes back again! Becky Belbin <stoneywood21@...> wrote: LoriI appreciate that if you do not use the NeilMed bottle, you would not understand the need for funnels. Scissors are not really neccessary, as it is possible to tear the "sachet" open, (although this makes the pouring of the mixture into the narrow neck of the bottle, more difficult.)You are lucky that you cannot imagine what crusts are, and how difficult it is to remove something the size of a walnut, through your nostril, or throat. ( Hence the repeat procedure.)Relative to mixing ones self, NeilMed is expensive. I shall clarify that in my "report" NeilMed recommend sterile water and I always use boiled tap water.(Same with any irrigation method)>> I'm sorry, but I don't really understand what you are talking about. > I don't use the NeilMed bottle. I use a NetiPot.> > I don't know what you are talking about regarding scissors, funnels > and sterile water. I also don't know what crusts are exactly -- I > mean, I think I do, but I don't really know where you get them that > they would need to be removed and that some other method could get > rid of them. > > I don't think the NeilMed is that expensive, actually. But sure, you > can make your own. Some people do. I find the particular mix to > work very well for me. I don't like other brands, I have tried > othres and I like the NeilMed the best. I find another, such as > SinuRinse, I think it's called, too irritating and burning. The > NeilMed is more soothing.> > I don't know why you would need more than one packet. I only use one > packet at a time. It's about 10 bucks for 100 packets, so if I use 1-> 2 a day, it lasts about two months. Five bucks a month doesn't seem > very expensive to me.> > I don't know what you mean by the sachet not being easy to fill, > because quiet honestly I guess I don't know what a sachet is.> > Like I said, I use a NetiPot. It's very easy to fill. I use tap > water.> > Lori> > > > > Hello Again Truelori> > My ENT asked me to trial the Neilmed and I have come up with the > > (Pretty Lame,)following ;> > oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo> > NeilMed SinuRinse> > > > · Low-pressure squeeze bottle good for clearing pollutants from > > nasal passages.> > · Squeeze bottle flow not sustained enough for removing crusts.> > · Squeeze bottle easy to use.> > · Bottle not easy to fill.> > · Sachet mix is not complex.> > · Sachet mix is a fairly expensive solution.> > · Sachet convenient if only one is needed.> > · Sachet is not so easy to fill.> > > > Conclusion;> > Basic system which operates well for clearing pollutants, but given > > the need for sterile water, scissors, funnels, etc. is > unnecessarily > > complex in use.> > oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo> > > > Does anyone agree/disagree, or have anything to add?> > > > Regards> > B> >> Rise to the challenge for Sport Relief with for Good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2008 Report Share Posted March 20, 2008 Becky At one time I posted a photo here of a " Technicolored Monster " which escaped from my nose. On reflection , I removed it after a few days, in case anyone of a delicate constitution might happen on it. > Lori > I appreciate that if you do not use the NeilMed bottle, you would not > understand the need for funnels. Scissors are not really neccessary, > as it is possible to tear the " sachet " open, (although this makes the > pouring of the mixture into the narrow neck of the bottle, more > difficult.) > You are lucky that you cannot imagine what crusts are, and how > difficult it is to remove something the size of a walnut, through > your nostril, or throat. ( Hence the repeat procedure.) > Relative to mixing ones self, NeilMed is expensive. I shall clarify > that in my " report " > NeilMed recommend sterile water and I always use boiled tap water. > (Same with any irrigation method) > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 25, 2008 Report Share Posted March 25, 2008 Actually NeilMed does not recommend sterile water; they recommend distilled water. The convenience of the NeilMed packets at a relatively low cost is well worth it for me -- I just think we should be more specific when we tell people things are expensive or not. It's about 10 bucks for 100 packets. I use 1-2 packets a day. Some may use more. So for me it's about $5-6 a month. If some find that expensive, then sure go ahead and mix your own. The other brand of packets I was using is called SinuCleanse, and I don't know, it must be a different ratio of the two ingredients, because it stings when I use it, and I only use the NeilMed now. Lori > > > > I'm sorry, but I don't really understand what you are talking > about. > > I don't use the NeilMed bottle. I use a NetiPot. > > > > I don't know what you are talking about regarding scissors, funnels > > and sterile water. I also don't know what crusts are exactly -- I > > mean, I think I do, but I don't really know where you get them that > > they would need to be removed and that some other method could get > > rid of them. > > > > I don't think the NeilMed is that expensive, actually. But sure, > you > > can make your own. Some people do. I find the particular mix to > > work very well for me. I don't like other brands, I have tried > > othres and I like the NeilMed the best. I find another, such as > > SinuRinse, I think it's called, too irritating and burning. The > > NeilMed is more soothing. > > > > I don't know why you would need more than one packet. I only use > one > > packet at a time. It's about 10 bucks for 100 packets, so if I use > 1- > > 2 a day, it lasts about two months. Five bucks a month doesn't > seem > > very expensive to me. > > > > I don't know what you mean by the sachet not being easy to fill, > > because quiet honestly I guess I don't know what a sachet is. > > > > Like I said, I use a NetiPot. It's very easy to fill. I use tap > > water. > > > > Lori > > > > > > > > > Hello Again Truelori > > > My ENT asked me to trial the Neilmed and I have come up with the > > > (Pretty Lame,)following ; > > > > oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo > > > NeilMed SinuRinse > > > > > > · Low-pressure squeeze bottle good for clearing pollutants from > > > nasal passages. > > > · Squeeze bottle flow not sustained enough for removing crusts. > > > · Squeeze bottle easy to use. > > > · Bottle not easy to fill. > > > · Sachet mix is not complex. > > > · Sachet mix is a fairly expensive solution. > > > · Sachet convenient if only one is needed. > > > · Sachet is not so easy to fill. > > > > > > Conclusion; > > > Basic system which operates well for clearing pollutants, but > given > > > the need for sterile water, scissors, funnels, etc. is > > unnecessarily > > > complex in use. > > > > oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo > > > > > > Does anyone agree/disagree, or have anything to add? > > > > > > Regards > > > B > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2008 Report Share Posted April 19, 2008 I’ve been using Nasonex twice a day but my ENT said not to irrigate with it. I’ve been on this for about 8 years. From: samters [mailto:samters ] On Behalf Of Steve Sent: Sunday, 20 April 2008 1:27 AM samters Subject: RE: Re: irrigation Importance: High Does most people use Nasonex alongside irrigation? Someone mentioned it damages the nasal receptors after time. I have been something or another for 10 years. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.2/1386 - Release Date: 18/04/2008 5:24 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.2/1386 - Release Date: 18/04/2008 5:24 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2008 Report Share Posted April 20, 2008 This is because Nasonex contains benzalkonium chloride as a preservative, which is not " cilio-friendly " (that's the term used in one article comparing various solutions), meaning it interferes with the normal beating movement of the epithelium's ciliae. Rhinocort's preservative (potassium sorbate) is cilio-friendly, but the glucocorticoid molecule used is different, though. > > Does most people use Nasonex alongside irrigation? Someone mentioned it > damages the nasal receptors after time. I have been something or another for > 10 years. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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