Re: Variant angina and Samter's

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Considering there are hundreds if not thousands of chemicals in wine and beer, different people may react to different things. It would make sense that the yeast would cause some people problems. My allergist said sulfites are a big issue in wine and other foods and unfortunately there is no such thing as sulfite-free wine. He honestly wasn't sure what I was reacting to. I probably should stay away from beer and wine, but I'm not going to!

K.

On Wed, Jul 23, 2008 at 12:55 AM, Garoutte <dkgarout@...> wrote:

I cannot drink any alcohol, especially wine. My understanding is that it is the yeast used in the fermenting process that is left over especially in wine and beers that is the culprit.

Excellent,

I think taking all the med's affect our nervous systems as I am jumpy and have palpatations for no reason, I have cut back to 2 coffee's max a day and sometimes none and taking some supplements make me feel a little more relaxed. I aim to cut my coffee/caffeine intake further and I never ever drink soft drinks like , fanta, sprite, coke etc these are a definite no no for samters sufferers. It took me years to completely stop as I loved coke, Irn Bru, lemonade but it's makes a huge difference. Also without getting any deeper into this subject I love my wine and have now found some great Organic brands which I stock up on, cheap wine generally means more acid and more problems with sneezing etc with sulphites but this is an area most samters suffers should look at sorting out, and also I do not drink beer/lager it gives me an instant sore head and the hangover is terrible.

Any beer/lager drinkers out there to comment on this, I just can't handle beers/lagers not sure if it's the chemicals , wheat whatever, yeast……

Cheers

Steve

From: samters [mailto:samters ] On Behalf Of Beverley Paine

Sent: 16 July, 2008 20:06samters Subject: Re: Variant angina and Samter's

Steve, you described me to a 'T': a real stress bunny, always looking for something to do, happiest when I'm busy or around others who are busy (although I do love sitting and talking for hours on end!), and yes, since I started taking magnesium supplements my life is a lot more balanced and my symptoms lessened. For a while there I though I was bipolar 2, such was the see-sawing mood swings caused by samters.

wishing you good health, peace and prosperity, Beverley Paine

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Alcohol tends to give me bloodshot eyes and a red nose. I always thought this was caused by alcohol induced dilation (widening) of the capillaries etc. This dilation would also allow more histamines and leukotrienes to reach the mast cells in my nose. The antihistamine nose spray, Astelin, is very helpful. Too bad it requires a prescription. Afrin spray, as a vasoconstrictor, might also work short term. I've also had a partial SOS that was gone soon after the first scotch and water, glass of wine or beer.

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All alcohol makes me congested (usually the next day), even one drink -- NOT worth it for me! I have ordered both magnesium and vitamin d supplements -- will post how they work.

Regina

From: RulonKB@... <RulonKB@...>Subject: Re: Re: Variant angina and Samter'ssamters Date: Wednesday, July 23, 2008, 10:44 AM

Alcohol tends to give me bloodshot eyes and a red nose. I always thought this was caused by alcohol induced dilation (widening) of the capillaries etc. This dilation would also allow more histamines and leukotrienes to reach the mast cells in my nose. The antihistamine nose spray, Astelin, is very helpful. Too bad it requires a prescription. Afrin spray, as a vasoconstrictor, might also work short term. I've also had a partial SOS that was gone soon after the first scotch and water, glass of wine or beer.

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I recently had my vit d level tested and was low.  I have been told to take supplements and get more sun.  When i started reading online about low vit. D I realized that it can be linked to all kinds of autoimmune problems.  I wonder if vit D could be a problem for all of us.  In lala land it will be the cure.  That would be awesome!  We will see how much it helps keep you posted.  Has anyone else had vit D checked or been told they are low.  By the way I find this ironic because I have kids and horses and I am outside alot I am Italian so I don't know if that means I need more than most of sunlight.    Tiana Re: Re: Variant angina and Samter'ssamters@groups .comDate: Wednesday, July 23, 2008, 10:44 AMAlcohol tends to give me bloodshot eyes and a red nose.  I always thought this was caused by alcohol induced dilation (widening) of the capillaries etc.  This dilation would also allow more histamines and leukotrienes to reach the mast cells in my nose.  The antihistamine nose spray, Astelin, is very helpful.  Too bad it requires a prescription.   Afrin spray, as a vasoconstrictor, might also work short term.   I've also had a partial SOS that was gone soon after the first scotch and water, glass of wine or beer.     

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Try organic wine and beers.

From: samters

[mailto:samters ] On Behalf Of wkapikorn

Sent: 24 July, 2008 04:09

samters

Subject: Re: Re: Variant angina and Samter's

All alcohol makes me congested (usually the next

day), even one drink -- NOT worth it for me! I have ordered both

magnesium and vitamin d supplements -- will post how they work.

Regina

From: RulonKB@...

<RulonKB@...>

Subject: Re: Re: Variant angina and Samter's

samters

Date: Wednesday, July 23, 2008, 10:44 AM

Alcohol tends to give me bloodshot eyes and a red nose.

I always thought this was caused by

alcohol induced dilation (widening) of the capillaries

etc. This dilation would also allow more histamines and

leukotrienes to reach the mast cells in my nose. The antihistamine

nose spray, Astelin, is very helpful. Too bad it requires a

prescription. Afrin spray, as a vasoconstrictor, might also work

short term. I've also had a partial SOS that was gone soon

after the first scotch and water, glass of wine or beer.

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Just because they are organic doesn't mean they will not have what triggers the symptoms. The ingredients are essentially the same.

K.

On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 3:14 PM, Steve <skunkburner@...> wrote:

Try organic wine and beers.

From: samters [mailto:samters ] On Behalf Of wkapikorn

Sent: 24 July, 2008 04:09samters Subject: Re: Re: Variant angina and Samter's

All alcohol makes me congested (usually the next day), even one drink -- NOT worth it for me! I have ordered both magnesium and vitamin d supplements -- will post how they work.

Regina

From: RulonKB@... <RulonKB@...>Subject: Re: Re: Variant angina and Samter's

samters Date: Wednesday, July 23, 2008, 10:44 AM

Alcohol tends to give me bloodshot eyes and a red nose. I always thought this was caused by alcohol induced dilation (widening) of the capillaries etc. This dilation would also allow more histamines and leukotrienes to reach the mast cells in my nose. The antihistamine nose spray, Astelin, is very helpful. Too bad it requires a prescription. Afrin spray, as a vasoconstrictor, might also work short term. I've also had a partial SOS that was gone soon after the first scotch and water, glass of wine or beer.

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I agree but I have had many years experience and I seem to drill

through several bottles a week although I think the bottles leak. If you buy organic

and avoid as much tannins, sulphates, preservatives and chemicals as possible

your on to a winner. Also sometimes depending on the quality a younger wine might

be better. You may pay more and it may take you a good few bottles to find your

taste but it’s a wonderful thing.

On a different note what ever happened to that guy the other

month who said he’d post the magic bullet formula to help us all out.

From: samters

[mailto:samters ] On Behalf Of Keefer

Sent: 28 July, 2008 19:11

samters

Subject: Re: Re: Variant angina and Samter's

Just because they are organic doesn't mean they will not

have what triggers the symptoms. The ingredients are essentially the

same.

K.

On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 3:14 PM, Steve <skunkburner@...> wrote:

Try

organic wine and beers.

From: samters [mailto:samters ]

On Behalf Of wkapikorn

Sent: 24 July, 2008 04:09

samters

Subject: Re: Re: Variant angina and Samter's

All alcohol makes me congested (usually the next day), even one drink

-- NOT worth it for me! I have ordered both magnesium and vitamin

d supplements -- will post how they work.

Regina

From: RulonKB@...

<RulonKB@...>

Subject: Re: Re: Variant angina and Samter's

samters

Date: Wednesday, July 23, 2008, 10:44 AM

Alcohol tends to give me

bloodshot eyes and a red nose. I always thought this was

caused by alcohol induced dilation (widening) of the

capillaries etc. This dilation would also allow more histamines

and leukotrienes to reach the mast cells in my nose. The antihistamine

nose spray, Astelin, is very helpful. Too bad it requires a

prescription. Afrin spray, as a vasoconstrictor, might also work

short term. I've also had a partial SOS that was gone soon

after the first scotch and water, glass of wine or beer.

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On the same vein

I have boosted the sale figures for oranges here in the UK, previous suggestion to give it a go a month or so back, but can't conclude either way if they have helped my Samters condition. I have to get my daughter to smell them for me in Sainsbury's as the more they smell like oranges then the more likely they will taste good and be juicy.

Mike

samters From: skunkburner@...Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2008 12:40:03 -0300Subject: RE: Re: Variant angina and Samter's

I agree but I have had many years experience and I seem to drill through several bottles a week although I think the bottles leak. If you buy organic and avoid as much tannins, sulphates, preservatives and chemicals as possible your on to a winner. Also sometimes depending on the quality a younger wine might be better. You may pay more and it may take you a good few bottles to find your taste but it’s a wonderful thing.

On a different note what ever happened to that guy the other month who said he’d post the magic bullet formula to help us all out.

From: samters [mailto:samters ] On Behalf Of KeeferSent: 28 July, 2008 19:11samters Subject: Re: Re: Variant angina and Samter's

Just because they are organic doesn't mean they will not have what triggers the symptoms. The ingredients are essentially the same.

K.

On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 3:14 PM, Steve <skunkburner (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

Try organic wine and beers.

From: samters [mailto:samters ] On Behalf Of wkapikornSent: 24 July, 2008 04:09samters Subject: Re: Re: Variant angina and Samter's

All alcohol makes me congested (usually the next day), even one drink -- NOT worth it for me! I have ordered both magnesium and vitamin d supplements -- will post how they work.

Regina

From: RulonKBaol <RulonKBaol>Subject: Re: Re: Variant angina and Samter'ssamters Date: Wednesday, July 23, 2008, 10:44 AM

Alcohol tends to give me bloodshot eyes and a red nose. I always thought this was caused by alcohol induced dilation (widening) of the capillaries etc. This dilation would also allow more histamines and leukotrienes to reach the mast cells in my nose. The antihistamine nose spray, Astelin, is very helpful. Too bad it requires a prescription. Afrin spray, as a vasoconstrictor, might also work short term. I've also had a partial SOS that was gone soon after the first scotch and water, glass of wine or beer.

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