Re: FYI on Distilled water & Flouride

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What does

that mean “other undesirable impurities may be present?” Like

what? Distilled water is essentially pure water because it has gone

through the distillation process which involves boiling the water and condensing

the steam. The only way undesirable impurities would be present in

distilled water is if they got there after the distillation process such as

contaminated bottles, improper seals, or issues like that or there were

impurities in the water that have a lower boiling point than water (and I’m

pretty sure most of these types of chemicals are not allowed in drinking water).

Or the distillation was not done properly. The potential downside

to distilled water as a drinking water is the fact that there are no salts

present and this could have an adverse affect on the salt balance in your body.

At the very least, you won’t get those trace minerals from your water and

it won’t taste nearly as good.

Distilling water will remove the fluoride.

Unfortunately, I’m not so sure it is easy for someone to set up a

distillation apparatus in their kitchen. Though it would not surprise me

if there are some out there. Your other option is to live somewhere that

has well water instead of city water. Then you will only have natural

fluoride levels to worry about, though of course depending on where the water

comes from, the fluoride levels might be just as high…

K.

FYI on

Distilled water & Flouride

Hi All--

I was

doing some reading on Flouride since I drink alot of tap water. Learned a

couple of things of interest:

Flouride is

linked to numerous health issues including cancer, thyroid conditions and

osteoporosis. It is natural in relatively high doses in produce but is

especially concentrated in black and red tea. So if you drink alot of tap

water delivered black tea, look for filtering options. Brita won't do

it. Boiling will increase rather than reduce concentration--I

sometimes boil tap water for sinus rinse (hmmm). Freezing doesn't

diminish it either.

Another

point unknown to me that a water expert made:

" When looking at bottled water, keep in mind that 'distilled water' does not imply that

a product is suitable for drinking water and other undesirable impurities may

be present. "

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Thanks ,

I was wondering if all I learned about distillation in school was incorrect.

FYI on

Distilled water & Flouride

Hi All--

I was

doing some reading on Flouride since I drink alot of tap water. Learned a

couple of things of interest:

Flouride is

linked to numerous health issues including cancer, thyroid conditions and

osteoporosis. It is natural in relatively high doses in produce but is

especially concentrated in black and red tea. So if you drink alot of tap

water delivered black tea, look for filtering options. Brita won't do

it. Boiling will increase rather than reduce concentration--I

sometimes boil tap water for sinus rinse (hmmm). Freezing doesn't

diminish it either.

Another

point unknown to me that a water expert made:

"When looking at bottled water, keep in mind that 'distilled water' does not imply that

a product is suitable for drinking water and other undesirable impurities may

be present."

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yes, is correct. here's an explanation of distilled water from wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distilled_water

samters From: jkeefer@...Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 09:59:57 -0500Subject: RE: FYI on Distilled water & Flouride

What does that mean “other undesirable impurities may be present?” Like what? Distilled water is essentially pure water because it has gone through the distillation process which involves boiling the water and condensing the steam. The only way undesirable impurities would be present in distilled water is if they got there after the distillation process such as contaminated bottles, improper seals, or issues like that or there were impurities in the water that have a lower boiling point than water (and I’m pretty sure most of these types of chemicals are not allowed in drinking water). Or the distillation was not done properly. The potential downside to distilled water as a drinking water is the fact that there are no salts present and this could have an adverse affect on the salt balance in your body. At the very least, you won’t get those trace minerals from your water and it won’t taste nearly as good.

Distilling water will remove the fluoride. Unfortunately, I’m not so sure it is easy for someone to set up a distillation apparatus in their kitchen. Though it would not surprise me if there are some out there. Your other option is to live somewhere that has well water instead of city water. Then you will only have natural fluoride levels to worry about, though of course depending on where the water comes from, the fluoride levels might be just as high…

K.

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Hi All--

I was doing some reading on Flouride since I drink alot of tap water. Learned a couple of things of interest:

Flouride is linked to numerous health issues including cancer, thyroid conditions and osteoporosis. It is natural in relatively high doses in produce but is especially concentrated in black and red tea. So if you drink alot of tap water delivered black tea, look for filtering options. Brita won't do it. Boiling will increase rather than reduce concentration--I sometimes boil tap water for sinus rinse (hmmm). Freezing doesn't diminish it either.

Another point unknown to me that a water expert made: "When looking at bottled water, keep in mind that 'distilled water' does not imply that a product is suitable for drinking water and other undesirable impurities may be present."

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Hi All, Yeah, yeah, I too have done the reading on Distilled water which is why I buy it for rinsing. Shoot! I meant to save the site I pulled that quote from and forgot to. The document I pulled that quote from was not a selling site but an informational one. I will try and find the site again and write this organization for more information. But here are two links that I found of value. Of course Dr Mercola is talking about drinking vs rinsing. Still important information. Liz http://www.mercola.com/article/water/distilled_water.htm http://www.purewateressentials.com/water-filters-countertop-water-filters.html D Preis

<dspreis@...> wrote: yes, is correct. here's an explanation of distilled water from wikipedia: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distilled_water samters From: jkeefer@....comDate: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 09:59:57 -0500Subject: RE: FYI on Distilled water & Flouride What does that mean “other undesirable impurities may be present?” Like what? Distilled water is essentially pure water because it has gone through the distillation process which involves boiling the water and condensing the steam. The only way undesirable impurities would be present in distilled water is if they got there after the distillation process such as contaminated bottles, improper seals, or issues like that or there were impurities in the water that have a lower boiling point than water (and I’m pretty sure most of these types of chemicals are not allowed in drinking water). Or the distillation was not done properly. The potential downside to distilled water as a drinking water is the fact that there are no salts present and this could have an adverse affect on the salt balance in your

body. At the very least, you won’t get those trace minerals from your water and it won’t taste nearly as good. Distilling water will remove the fluoride. Unfortunately, I’m not so sure it is easy for someone to set up a distillation apparatus in their kitchen. Though it would not surprise me if there are some out there. Your other option is to live somewhere that has well water instead of city water. Then you will only have natural fluoride levels to worry about, though of course depending on where the water comes from, the fluoride levels might be just as high… K. -----Original Message-----From: samters [mailto:samters ] On Behalf Of Robin DeleuzeSent: Saturday, December 01, 2007 12:38 AMsamters Subject: FYI on Distilled water &

Flouride Hi All-- I was doing some reading on Flouride since I drink alot of tap water. Learned a couple of things of interest: Flouride is linked to numerous health issues including cancer, thyroid conditions and osteoporosis. It is natural in relatively high doses

in produce but is especially concentrated in black and red tea. So if you drink alot of tap water delivered black tea, look for filtering options. Brita won't do it. Boiling will increase rather than reduce concentration--I sometimes boil tap water for sinus rinse (hmmm). Freezing doesn't diminish it either. Another point unknown to me that a water expert made: "When looking at bottled water, keep in mind that 'distilled water' does not imply that a product is suitable for drinking water and other undesirable impurities may be present."

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The thing

to remember with distilled water is that everything wants to be in

equilibrium. Normal water has salts and minerals in it so it does not

throw your body’s natural equilibrium out of whack. Drinking

distilled water will. All those salts and minerals in your cells will

leave the cells to go into the water until everything is in equilibrium

again. Unfortunately that means your cells won’t have what they

need in them. Drinking distilled water occasionally isn’t going to

be that bad but long term it can be. It is fine to use for rinsing

because you are adding salt to it. I most certainly would not rinse with

plain distilled water as I would think this would have a bad affect on your

sinuses, not to mention would be rather painful.

K.

FYI on

Distilled water & Flouride

Hi All--

I was

doing some reading on Flouride since I drink alot of tap water. Learned a

couple of things of interest:

Flouride is

linked to numerous health issues including cancer, thyroid conditions and

osteoporosis. It is natural in relatively high doses in produce but is

especially concentrated in black and red tea. So if you drink alot of tap

water delivered black tea, look for filtering options. Brita won't do

it. Boiling will increase rather than reduce concentration--I

sometimes boil tap water for sinus rinse (hmmm). Freezing doesn't

diminish it either.

Another

point unknown to me that a water expert made:

" When looking at bottled water, keep in mind that 'distilled water' does not imply that

a product is suitable for drinking water and other undesirable impurities may

be present. "

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Hi Everyone,

An important point about all of these products is they are only known to

be free of contaminants that they are tested for. It is true that

distillation will remove many of the impurities, but not all. The more

volatile compounds will still come over, whether they are allowed or

not, they will still be present at some levels. The inorganics generally

will not come over, but this is not 100% either. Volatile things like

elemental mercury may still carry over. In addition to this, how the

product is handled after processing will alter it as well. How well are

the containers cleaned? How much do the containers leach chemicals into

the product etc? The point I'm trying to make is, that without testing

there can be no reliable assurances of any kind. Even tap water - at

best you can only say it's free of the contaminants they've tested - and

they don't test for all that much. There is research that suggests that

hormones in our water supplies are adversely affecting us, (and I think

might be one of the causes of Samters) but these hormones are not tested

for as far as I know. If you guys have specific chemistry-related

questions please ask.

Regards,

Mike

Robin Deleuze wrote:

> Hi All,

> Yeah, yeah, I too have done the reading on Distilled water which is

> why I buy it for rinsing.

> Shoot! I meant to save the site I pulled that quote from and forgot

> to. The document I pulled that quote from was not a selling site but

> an informational one. I will try and find the site again and write

> this organization for more information. But here are two links that I

> found of value. Of course Dr Mercola is talking about drinking vs

> rinsing. Still important information. Liz

> http://www.mercola.com/article/water/distilled_water.htm

> <http://www.mercola.com/article/water/distilled_water.htm>

> http://www.purewateressentials.com/water-filters-countertop-water-filters.html

>

<http://www.purewateressentials.com/water-filters-countertop-water-filters.html>

>

> */D Preis <dspreis@...>/* wrote:

>

> yes, is correct. here's an explanation of distilled water

> from wikipedia:

>

> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distilled_water

> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distilled_water>

>

>

>

>

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> samters

> From: jkeefer@...

> Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 09:59:57 -0500

> Subject: RE: FYI on Distilled water & Flouride

>

> What does that mean “other undesirable impurities may be

> present?” Like what? Distilled water is essentially pure water

> because it has gone through the distillation process which

> involves boiling the water and condensing the steam. The only

> way undesirable impurities would be present in distilled water

> is if they got there after the distillation process such as

> contaminated bottles, improper seals, or issues like that or

> there were impurities in the water that have a lower boiling

> point than water (and I’m pretty sure most of these types of

> chemicals are not allowed in drinking water). Or the

> distillation was not done properly. The potential downside to

> distilled water as a drinking water is the fact that there are

> no salts present and this could have an adverse affect on the

> salt balance in your body. At the very least, you won’t get

> those trace minerals from your water and it won’t taste nearly

> as good.

> Distilling water will remove the fluoride. Unfortunately, I’m

> not so sure it is easy for someone to set up a distillation

> apparatus in their kitchen. Though it would not surprise me if

> there are some out there. Your other option is to live

> somewhere that has well water instead of city water. Then you

> will only have natural fluoride levels to worry about, though

> of course depending on where the water comes from, the

> fluoride levels might be just as high…

> K.

> * FYI on Distilled water & Flouride

> Hi All--

> I was doing some reading on Flouride since I drink **alot **of

> tap water. Learned a couple of things of interest:

> Flouride is linked to numerous health issues including cancer,

> thyroid conditions and osteoporosis. It is natural in

> relatively high doses in produce but is especially

> concentrated in black and red tea. So if you drink alot of tap

> water delivered black tea, look for filtering options. Brita

> won't do it. Boiling will increase rather than reduce

> concentration--I sometimes boil tap water for sinus rinse

> (hmmm). Freezing doesn't diminish it either.

> Another point unknown to me that a water expert made: " When

> looking at bottled water, keep in mind that **'distilled

> water'** _does not imply _that a product is suitable for

> drinking water and other undesirable impurities may be present. "

>

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distilled water is ok in small amounts but over time it leaches minerals from

your body.

flouride and chlorine are not meant to be injested and they both contribute to

thyroid

problems. there is an AWESOME book that i reccommend to everyone and should be

a

must read for anyone with health issues. it is Prescription for Nutritional

Healing by Balch.

it has alot of info on water and flouride, chlorine, etc but also goes through

hundreds of

aliments and disease and tells you what vitamins, supplements, foods will help.

it is my

favorite book. check it out.

> >

> > yes, is correct. here's an explanation of distilled water

> > from wikipedia:

> >

> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distilled_water

> > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distilled_water>

> >

> >

> >

> >

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> > samters

> > From: jkeefer@...

> > Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2007 09:59:57 -0500

> > Subject: RE: FYI on Distilled water & Flouride

> >

> > What does that mean " other undesirable impurities may be

> > present? " Like what? Distilled water is essentially pure water

> > because it has gone through the distillation process which

> > involves boiling the water and condensing the steam. The only

> > way undesirable impurities would be present in distilled water

> > is if they got there after the distillation process such as

> > contaminated bottles, improper seals, or issues like that or

> > there were impurities in the water that have a lower boiling

> > point than water (and I'm pretty sure most of these types of

> > chemicals are not allowed in drinking water). Or the

> > distillation was not done properly. The potential downside to

> > distilled water as a drinking water is the fact that there are

> > no salts present and this could have an adverse affect on the

> > salt balance in your body. At the very least, you won't get

> > those trace minerals from your water and it won't taste nearly

> > as good.

> > Distilling water will remove the fluoride. Unfortunately, I'm

> > not so sure it is easy for someone to set up a distillation

> > apparatus in their kitchen. Though it would not surprise me if

> > there are some out there. Your other option is to live

> > somewhere that has well water instead of city water. Then you

> > will only have natural fluoride levels to worry about, though

> > of course depending on where the water comes from, the

> > fluoride levels might be just as high…

> > K.

> > * FYI on Distilled water & Flouride

> > Hi All--

> > I was doing some reading on Flouride since I drink **alot **of

> > tap water. Learned a couple of things of interest:

> > Flouride is linked to numerous health issues including cancer,

> > thyroid conditions and osteoporosis. It is natural in

> > relatively high doses in produce but is especially

> > concentrated in black and red tea. So if you drink alot of tap

> > water delivered black tea, look for filtering options. Brita

> > won't do it. Boiling will increase rather than reduce

> > concentration--I sometimes boil tap water for sinus rinse

> > (hmmm). Freezing doesn't diminish it either.

> > Another point unknown to me that a water expert made: " When

> > looking at bottled water, keep in mind that **'distilled

> > water'** _does not imply _that a product is suitable for

> > drinking water and other undesirable impurities may be present. "

> >

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I don't believe those hormones are tested for regularly but yes I have

also seen studies that show they are present sometimes. Heck, I have

seen studies that show things like cocaine is present in the water

supply. As you get more and more sensitive analytical equipment, you

can test for smaller and smaller amounts of things. But just because

they are present in itsy bitsy amounts doesn't mean they are an issue.

Of course, the opposite can also be true. You can't test for

everything. Testing is also expensive. Some things are very hard to

analyze. Therefore, typically things are tested to be sure that known

possible contaminants are removed or at low enough levels.

To be honest, if this sort of thing freaks you out, you are simply

better off not thinking about it. Ignorance can be bliss. I'm an

Analytical Chemist, I understand the limitations of testing very well.

I don't let it bother me, I have other stuff to worry about.

K.

* FYI on Distilled water & Flouride

> Hi All--

> I was doing some reading on Flouride since I drink **alot **of

> tap water. Learned a couple of things of interest:

> Flouride is linked to numerous health issues including cancer,

> thyroid conditions and osteoporosis. It is natural in

> relatively high doses in produce but is especially

> concentrated in black and red tea. So if you drink alot of tap

> water delivered black tea, look for filtering options. Brita

> won't do it. Boiling will increase rather than reduce

> concentration--I sometimes boil tap water for sinus rinse

> (hmmm). Freezing doesn't diminish it either.

> Another point unknown to me that a water expert made: " When

> looking at bottled water, keep in mind that **'distilled

> water'** _does not imply _that a product is suitable for

> drinking water and other undesirable impurities may be

present. "

>

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